Rest Of Baseball - 2021

[MDS]

Over 90% of the people who write about baseball for a living apparently think it is an argument.

yea but none of them are alcoholic phillies homers

[SD]

his fielding was great but not elite

2nd highest fielding percentage ever. How is that not elite? He made plenty of diving catches and had unbelievable range too.


https://youtu.be/prBSpS7f1S0

[MDS]

fielding stats mean nothing...watch the game...jimmy was great not elite

[SD]

fielding stats mean nothing...watch the game...jimmy was great not elite

Only 6 SS in history won more gold gloves than he did. So 2nd best fielding % ever and 7th all time for gold gloves = not elite

Got it

[ice grillin you]

He belongs in the hall.  It's not even an argument.

He's my second all time favorite athlete and there is definitely an argument....I think he should just miss but the hall has been so watered down in the last 5-10 years put his ass in

[ice grillin you]

fielding stats mean nothing...watch the game...jimmy was great not elite

Only 6 SS in history won more gold gloves than he did. So 2nd best fielding % ever and 7th all time for gold gloves = not elite

Got it

his fielding percentage was elevated by him not having great range

[MDS]

if you watched ozzie, omar vizquel or brandon crawford and think jimmy is on that level i cant help you

[ice grillin you]

jimmy had a strong ass accurate as hell arm but did you really ever see him go deep in a hole grab something throw a guy out?

It was really rare

He was reliable as hell but he wasnt a huge run saver

[PhillyPhreak54]

He was better than Jetes in the field.

Ortiz getting in on the first ballot is a joke. He was just a guy in Minnesota. He couldn't play defense. But he was outgoing so that's what matters to the dopey HOF voters

[MDS]

jeter stunk at SS but he had an 848 OPS during his 14-year prime...jimmy had a 751. he was also the face of the sport and a part of countless memorable moments. and he farged his way through some prime ny ass and not one tabloid scandal or anonymous quote to the post. HOF

ortiz is a HOFer too, who cares if its first ballot or 10th. 937 OPS, 17 years of production, 151 games and a 1.000 OPS in his age 40 season. theres no doubt.

[ice grillin you]

i dont understand....why was jeter brought up?

[SD]

jimmy had a strong ass accurate as hell arm but did you really ever see him go deep in a hole grab something throw a guy out?

It was really rare

He was reliable as hell but he wasnt a huge run saver

Go to the .50 mark if this video

There's a bunch of them throughout this video


https://youtu.be/prBSpS7f1S0

if you watched ozzie, omar vizquel or brandon crawford and think jimmy is on that level i cant help you

Let's say he's a notch below he was still one of the best defensive SS ever. Top 10. Now add in his offensive stats which are better than 3/4's of the SS in the hall...throw in an mvp, clutch hits at crucial moments in playoff games and ws ring and I'm not sure how you can argue otherwise


https://youtu.be/PSveSmBrS0M

[ice grillin you]

yeah the worst shortstop in the league who plays a hundred years is going to have a few of those...the elites do it practically every game

[SD]

yeah the worst shortstop in the league who plays a hundred years is going to have a few of those...the elites do it practically every game

Do those worst SS in the league have the 2nd highest fielding % ever and 4 GGs too? By any metric I use to include stats and video he's a hofer. By you and Todd's metrics he's not because he's a top 10 all time defensive SS all time not top 5 and his offensive stats aren't good enough even though they're better than 75% of the SS in the hof. Pretty sure you said Dawkins wasn't a hof worthy either. I'm expecting you to double down on that now saying he doesn't belong so go for it.

[ice grillin you]

again fielding percentage is tied to what kinds of balls you can get to...jimmy couldnt get to many balls that the elites could to even make errors...he was a great fielder....its not like im saying he stunk... i dont know why great isnt good enough for you or how you could watch him and think he was elite.