2017/2018 Phillies Off-Season Thread

[ice grillin you]

But the data, IGY. 

THE fargING DATA!

the really scary part about the decision even more than doing it to begin with is that they did it with two runners on base....that is certifiably insane

daring a guy to go the opposite way makes sense...its takes real skill....timing and bat control to do that....to dare a guy to pull a ball even if his numbers say he tends to not do it is stupid because theres basically no adjustment for a batter to pull the ball

[ice grillin you]

i think they, again, did that for that batter specifically as a test run since it was the weakest batter in the lineup. it was an exhibition game.

nope

The Phillies have used the Grapefruit League games to implement their aggressive outfield shifting for every batter, based on spray charts. But they will go beyond that, flipping players across the field when the numbers tell them it is wisest.

[Geowhizzer]

0-162?

[Rome]

I wonder what kind of shakes they're being force fed?

[MDS]

nope

no i mean the lf/rf flipping was done for that batter...not regular shifting. but regardless of anything using useless spring training games to experiment with even the dumbest of ideas is fine. its spring training.

ill tell you what. if kaplar shifts the entire outfield to LF for freddie freeman in game 1 you can go crazy

[ice grillin you]

i have no problem with the position flipping...that makes complete sense

[Rome]

Having guys who can actually play the position is a better idea than flip-flopping them all game long. 

[ice grillin you]

not every player on every team is a great fielder

but if youd prefer they can take rhys hoskins bat out of the lineup and play roman quinn everyday

[MDS]

what ultimately is going to happen is once or twice the right handed batter is going to bloop something in just in front of hoskins in RF and romey (and j) will go ballistic that williams/atherr werent there instead...while ignoring the dozens and dozens of other times the shift/position change worked.

and on and on it will go, like a gun debate on twitter, where nobody will win and humanity will lose

[Rome]

The Phillies won the World Series with two very good outfielders and a guy who resembled a for sale sign in left.  I realize not everyone can be great and no one is asking for that.  Let's start with competent and progress from there.  And flipping from right to left to wherever depending on spray charts is ridiculous.  Shifts are fine but employing common sense while using them is nice too. 

[ice grillin you]

if in a higher leverage moment hoskins is in left and altherr/williams is in right and a right handed hitter is up i see no reason you wouldnt switch....in fact i cant believe it has taken this long for someone to think of this

[ice grillin you]

god this is dumb....so if someone gets "sensitive" put a symbol in their locker that shows the entire locker room how "sensitive" they are?

http://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/phillies-pitchers-look-stay-sensitive-bus

[MDS]

that thing will never leave vv's locker

[Rome]

Can you imagine a guy like Bob Gibson putting up with bullshtein like that?

LOL at it building cameraderie too.   Jesus Christ what has happened to the male members of the species these days?

[QB Eagles]

I'm fully aware of the Marlins situation, but I'm getting major last place vibes from this Phils team.