2017/2018 Phillies Off-Season Thread

[PhillyPhreak54]

If they let them throw more and got their stamina up they'd be able to go deeper into games.

Quality starts stat may be one of the worst.

[MDS]

literally nobody cares about the QS and you are making that up

please talk to pitching coaches before you continue with this asinine stuff

[PhillyPhreak54]

Pitching coaches are complicit in limiting the throwing of starters

[MDS]

its all a big conspiracy and you figured it out

what universe are you from

[PhillyPhreak54]

The one where pitchers would throw 120-130 and not die

[MDS]

1) that was before youth travel circuit destroyed kids arms. separate issue but having these kids wear out there arms so much at 14-18 isnt good.
2) again, a fresh pitcher facing a lineup for the first time is better than a tired pitcher facing that same lineup for the 3rd and 4th times.

there are a handful of exceptions. kershaw. verlander. sale. NOLA! but theres a reason why barely anybody throws 200 innings anymore.

[MDS]

kinsler to the angels, which takes away the most likely trade partner for cesar

im mixed on this. hes a good player with a low ceiling. but there are no guarantees about JP and kingery. giving up on an established player for them is iffy.

[Rome]

1) that was before youth travel circuit destroyed kids arms. separate issue but having these kids wear out there arms so much at 14-18 isnt good.
2) again, a fresh pitcher facing a lineup for the first time is better than a tired pitcher facing that same lineup for the 3rd and 4th times.

there are a handful of exceptions. kershaw. verlander. sale. NOLA! but theres a reason why barely anybody throws 200 innings anymore.

Yeah.  They're gaping Hoydas.  Lol at the youth travel circuit.   You really do live in your own world, kid. 

[MDS]

romey i expect this type of ignorance from he is a fossil playing internet tough guy....j is my age and wasnt even raised in the previous era

[Geowhizzer]

On a lark, I looked up the records for most innings pitched in a season and did a few Wikipedia bunny trails.  The top 104 were all before 1900, and were some crazy totals.  Some guy named Will White pitched 680 innings in 1879, though overhand pitching was not allowed until 1884.

Charlie "Old Hoss" Radbourn pitched 678 2/3 in 1884, including starting 40 out of 43 from July 23 to September 24.  He won 59 games (officially).

Steve Carlton pitched over 300 twice, in 1972 and 1980.  Roy Halladay had 250 in 2010.  Last year's leader was Aaron Nola with 168.

Different times.

[MDS]

and halladay threw his arm out at 35. but man oh man those 250+ IP seasons were totally worth it.

[ice grillin you]

and halladay threw his arm out at 35. but man oh man those 250+ IP seasons were totally worth it.

they weren't?

[SD]

Maybe if he'd have thrown a few less pitches he would have had better control of his aircraft and he'd be with us today. RIP Roy.

[ice grillin you]

get motherfargers get

The Baltimore Orioles hope to trade Manny Machado by the end of the week

[Rome]

I agree get but are they going to have to surrender the entire farm system for him?   Any player other than Hoskins on the roster is fine but will they trade for him without him agreeing to an A-Rod deal?

This is where bookworm Klentak will earn his money.