2016 Head Coach Search

[ice grillin you]

I'd have to think that Pederson does something as an OC,

he really doesn't do much...from what ive heard he had some more responsibility this year like I said with the two minute offense...but mostly hes andys water boy....remember not even five years ago he was teaching high school

[phattymatty]

you guys do remember that Chefs WRs didn't have a TD catch for 659 days right?

[phattymatty]

great googily moogily.

[smeags]

Collaborative effort

[PhillyPhreak54]

you guys do remember that Chefs WRs didn't have a TD catch for 659 days right?

Just like Andy's early days here when the WRs sucked. David Culley is his WRs coach there too.

And EL is spot on with his assessment.

[QB Eagles]

The absolute worst lesson to draw from the Chip era is the idea that the Eagles should have never fired Andy Reid.

[smeags]

The absolute worst lesson to draw from the Chip era is the idea that the Eagles should have never fired Andy Reid.

Agreed.

[Sgt PSN]

It was definitely time to part ways with Reid.  It was also the right time to part with Chip.  People say Lurie let Andy hang around too long out of loyalty, but I think it was simply based on Reid's body of work, which was very good overall. Chip didn't have that kind of cache, and it's unlikely the next coach won't either. So I really don't care who they hire at this point. If they aren't good, I don't think Lurie will hesitate to cut the cord....with or without ties to Andy. So if Pederson gets the job, it's likely going to be sink or swim. 

Andy swam after year 1.  Chip sunk.  I'd say that year 1 is the only freebie you get with Lurie. After that, you either get him playoff revenue and stay, or you don't and leave. 

[ice grillin you]

I think its the opposite....I think lurie is overly loyal...the fact that chip got got that quick shows how poisonous he really was...but luries MO is always going to be stay the course and keep guys longer rather than shorter

[Sgt PSN]

I think that's correct regarding Banner and Howie, but as far as coaches go, we've got 3 to go on:

Ray Rhodes made the playoffs his first 2 years, including 1 home game/home win. He was fired after the team missed the playoffs 2 straight years. Maybe the 97 season warranted a firing, but keeping him around 1 extra year is far from being overly loyal.

Reid only missed the playoffs 4 or 5 times in 14 years, but he also brought a lot of home playoff games and deep playoff runs. How long was too long with him?  I think fans started really souring on him around year 10 or 11, but he was still making the postseason.  He wasn't canned until he missed it 2 straight  years.

I also think Lurie gauges the fans. If the city was crazy in love with Andy, maybe he stays 1 more year. If the city was crazy in love with Chip, maybe he gets one more shot.  But in the end, Lurie is all about making that cheddar and if you aren't making extra money in the playoffs, you aren't sticking around.

[QB Eagles]

Chip would have gotten an extra year if he wasn't an icehole. But part of the calculus for giving him that year would have been that he was trying to do revolutionary things, and so there was major upside if he could pull it off. I'm still okay with the decision to give Chip GM powers for that reason... once you have a coach like him, there's no point in going halfway in with him and trying to work his schemes with players he doesn't want. If it works, it's great, and if it doesn't work, the responsibility is fully his and you shteincan him, which is what happened.

If they hire a boring coordinator type, I think they gotta win a playoff game in three years or they are gone, unless they can demonstrate that each year was markedly better than the previous one.

I have the feeling a real dumpster fire era is coming up for the Eagles. We can argue about whether they are a Browns level franchise or not, but they may be entering a period where they are posting some Browns style records for a while. For some idea of what that's like, the Eagles won seven games this year. That would have been tied for the best Browns season in the last eight years. Imagine years of wistfully remembering the "successful" Chip Kelly era. I fear that's what we are in for.

[ice grillin you]

agree to disagree...lurie bleeds blind loyalty...its rampant in everything he does....shtein hes interviewing farging doug perderson out of loyalty to andy

also playoff games generate peanuts for nfl teams....that's not a monetary factor

[ice grillin you]

the eagles aren't the browns but you could argue they will be by default if any reid wins a sb this year

[Sgt PSN]

Definitely not much extra revenue for a home playoff game or 2 each season. What's an extra 60,000 ticket sales? 

It's not so much that it's improving Lurie's quality of life, but it does improve the franchise's value, especially if you are able to create a track record of getting 1 or 2 extra home games each year.

And I'm just calling it like I see it.  The 3 coaches he's hired were all fired after back to back playoff misses.

And while the Pederson interview might be out of some sort of loyalty to Andy, I don't think that will carry much weight in the decision to hire (or not hire) him. And it certainly won't help Pederson if he is hired. If Pederson gets the gig he's on his own at that point and if  the team doesn't make the playoffs after year 2, I think he (or pretty much any other coach) will be gone.

[ice grillin you]

teams don't get ticket revenue from playoff games