2015 Sixers Season Thread

[ice grillin you]

bryan coangelo's toronto draft pick career

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/draft_finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2006&year_max=2012&round_min=&round_max=&pick_overall_min=&pick_overall_max=&franch_id=TOR&college_id=0&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&is_active=&is_hof=&c1stat=&c1comp=gt&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=ws

and his full exec page

http://www.basketball-reference.com/executives/colanbr99x.html

[smeags]

if that doesn't get you excited ....

[MDS]

I was never really on board with the process but yeah, this is a fleshpop move. if this was the thought then it should've been done right when colangelo came in.

the sixers were willing to keep him around as a nerd/cap guy, but his talent evaluation skills were suspect and his personality was a dreadful, incapable match for the position

theres more to being a gm than just being good at stockpiling assets and writing rambling resignation letters with made up abe lincoln quotes

[PhillyPhreak54]

I don't like this at all. This is the draft that everything was building up to. How do you pull him out right before the biggest part.
Makes no sense.

Yep.

Watch the Colangelo Crew start spending on shtein middle of the road players now

[hbionic]

LMAO @ "The process".

That's cute Philadephia. Losing is losing.

[ice grillin you]

Watch the Colangelo Crew start spending on shtein middle of the road players now

even if they do this it will not change a single thing....money is not an issue...this still all works if two of embiid, this years number 1 next years number 1 become stars...and that doesn't change no matter who is running things

in the end this could actually be to the sixers advantage...hinkie worked the tank like a superstar and has now set up the new regime with all these assets...where hinkie would have undoubtedly struggled was in attracting free agents...now you have a legendary basketball guy in coangelo who will work that part of it

[ice grillin you]

The Kendricks follow in the footsteps of team founder and former owner Jerry Colangelo. Colangelo, along with other baseball executives and ex-players, launched a group called Battin' 1000: a national campaign that uses baseball memorabilia to raise funds for a Campus for Life, the largest anti-choice student network in the country. Colangelo was also deputy chair of Bush/Cheney 2004 in Arizona, and his deep pockets created what was called the Presidential Prayer Team—a private evangelical group that claims to have signed up more than 1 million people to drop to their knees and pray daily for Bush.

Under Colangelo, John McCain also owned a piece of the team. The former maverick said before the bill's passage that he "understood" why it was being passed because "the drivers of cars with illegals in it [that] are intentionally causing accidents on the freeway."

[MDS]

fun takes on hinkie

http://deadspin.com/failure-artist-sam-hinkie-produces-his-masterpiece-1769658799

if you remove yourself from the cult, you can see the truth

[ice grillin you]

the fundamental misunderstanding of what hinkie magic did or how the nba works by that writer is astounding

[MDS]

he was antisocial numbers nerd who didnt have the talent evaluation or people skills needed for the position of general manager of a professional basketball team

he also was naive and just plain out of his element. he wrote a 13 page manifesto for the "owners" thinking it would only be for their eyes. what is he, 12? have fun on twitter you dork.

[PhillyPhreak54]

A lot of people have missed the premise of what he was doing

[ice grillin you]

to be fair to that piece I don't think it was really trying to be serious....seems like it was written for no other reason than to make fun of hinkies letter...which is fine...the letter was both awesome and hilarious...as far as facts tho it didn't contain many

he was antisocial numbers nerd who didnt have the talent evaluation or people skills needed for the position of general manager of a professional basketball team

he really wasn't an analytics guy....you have to know his player acquisitions to see that numbers had little to nothing to do with them....I think you are confusing many hinkie bots of being analytic nerds....which is 100% true...but just because number doods on twitter worshipped him doesn't mean hinkie ran his team based on analytics

in the reality based world all he was was a cat who was in the business of getting really bad and acquiring assets to hopefully one day be really great....period end of story

[MDS]

i dont disagree with that, but its plainly obvious he just couldnt handle the job for a variety of reasons

[ice grillin you]

[MDS]

end game

The simple fact of the matter is that in three years Sam Hinkie showed that he was a poor talent evaluator. Nerlens Noel isn't Steven Adams or Rudy Gobert, Michael Carter-Williams isn't Giannis Antetokounmpo, Joel Embiid isn't Aaron Gordon, Jahlil Okafor isn't Kristaps Porzingis. Hinkie drafted over 10 players in the second round and tore through D-Leaguers and end-of-the-benchers via trade and ended up with just one (or maybe two) back-of-the-rotation players. One of the few times he did find something resembling real talent in the second round—K.J. McDaniels—Hinkie offered the player an insulting contract and soon traded him.

If poor talent evaluation were Hinkie's only sin, he'd probably still have a job. But he was a poor talent evaluator whose master plan required one of the worst three-year stretches in NBA history, the alienation of 76ers fans, the destruction of working relationships with agents and other executives, and a dramatic drop-off in profits for the 76ers owners before it could start being carried out.

Hinkie amassed a ton of draft picks and constantly used the 76ers' cap room to force his way into trades and acquire small assets. There's an irony in the fact that, with the full quiver of picks that he's rightfully proud of coming due in the 2016 draft, the smartest move for the 76ers is having anybody but Hinkie decide what to do with them.