Sam Bradford, Philadelphia Eagle

Started by SD, March 10, 2015, 04:12:50 PM

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Rome

I've watched NFL Network for the last couple of hours, read a lot of the articles about this deal on the web, and I can honestly say not a single person gives the Eagles any credit or takes their side in this deal. It's spooky how universal the judgment has been that the Rams absolutely fleeced (sorry) the Eagles here.

When that many people are sure, it actually makes me feel a bit better about things, because it always seems like these clowns are wrong in the end about sure things.

Probably just an irrational hope on my part, but there it is...

BigEd76


MDS

i wouldnt say its a "fleecing" outside of the stupid 2nd round pick

basically they swapped qbs and it made no sense...more of a head scratcher/what the farg kind of move than trade rape
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

General_Failure

All those years of getting 2nd round picks for garbage QBs are finally coming back to bite them in the ass.

The man. The myth. The legend.

ice grillin you

Quote from: Rome on March 10, 2015, 09:20:46 PM
I've watched NFL Network for the last couple of hours, read a lot of the articles about this deal on the web, and I can honestly say not a single person gives the Eagles any credit or takes their side in this deal. It's spooky how universal the judgment has been that the Rams absolutely fleeced (sorry) the Eagles here.

When that many people are sure, it actually makes me feel a bit better about things, because it always seems like these clowns are wrong in the end about sure things.

doesn't you being wrong about everything cancel them out...for the eagles sake you should def stay hating the trade as well
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyPhreak54

Pay McCoy $12m? NO GET OUT

Pay Maclin $11m? farg you pal take a hike!!

Pay Sam farging Bradford $13m? YES!

MDS

they are going to restructure the deal

also you will talk yourself in bradford in 3....2.....
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

General_Failure

I've already looped back around to all in for this season. I can't wait for this farging train wreck to take the field.

The man. The myth. The legend.

Eagles_Legendz

Sam Bradford is always hurt. 

And when he isn't always hurt he is captain check down.

And he isn't even good at that.

Less mobile Alex Smith with worse decision making.

Diomedes

I am entertained, I'll give 'em that.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Rome

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2015, 09:22:34 PM
Quote from: Rome on March 10, 2015, 09:20:46 PM
I've watched NFL Network for the last couple of hours, read a lot of the articles about this deal on the web, and I can honestly say not a single person gives the Eagles any credit or takes their side in this deal. It's spooky how universal the judgment has been that the Rams absolutely fleeced (sorry) the Eagles here.

When that many people are sure, it actually makes me feel a bit better about things, because it always seems like these clowns are wrong in the end about sure things.

doesn't you being wrong about everything cancel them out...for the eagles sake you should def stay hating the trade as well

are you drunk?

Rome

QuoteWe Must Trust In Chip With QB Trade

Posted 2 hours ago

By Dave Spadaro

At the stroke of 4 p.m. on Tuesday, as the NFL's new business year began, the stunner of stunners came: A report that the Eagles traded quarterback Nick Foles to the St. Louis Rams for quarterback Sam Bradford. With that, the frenzy officially began ...

It's been a mad and wild ride already – and free agency has just started. The Eagles made the trade, which also included sending a 2015 fourth-round pick and a 2016 second-round selection to the Rams in exchange for a 2015 fifth-round draft choice - official hours later - as fans and the media poked and prodded for answers for a trade that came out of the blue.

The Eagles now have Bradford in at quarterback and he and perhaps Mark Sanchez (who reportedly has agreed to contract terms, but nothing is yet official) will compete for playing time. Bradford has been an outstanding quarterback when healthy - Bradford tossed 14 touchdowns and had four interceptions in the seven games he played in 2013 - but the problem is that he hasn't been healthy the last two seasons. Two torn ACL tendons have curtailed Bradford's last couple of seasons – he missed all of 2014 with a knee injury and he played only seven games the year before – after St. Louis made him the first overall pick in the 2010 draft. Bradford is in the final year of his contract, so the Eagles will have to make the decision on him for the future.

That's down the line, though. The move is a shocker in the sense that most of the speculation - outside the organization - before Tuesday was that if the Eagles were to move Foles it would be to move up in the draft and get in position to select Oregon's Marcus Mariota. That isn't likely to happen with Bradford in and Sanchez re-signed.

This move is about trusting that head coach Chip Kelly sees something in Bradford, something special, and that he believes that with the team's strength and conditioning program and a change of scenery and an offense that fits his style, Bradford's abilities can shine. Kelly knows what he wants in a quarterback and he believes that Bradford can be a major factor in an offense that has set records in successive seasons in points scored.


He clearly likes Bradford and thinks his skill set fits into the offense. The idea that Kelly needs a quarterback who can move and run the read-option isn't the case here, because Bradford isn't running 60 yards for a touchdown anytime soon. How that lack of mobility outside the pocket impacts the structure of the offense remains to be seen.

Bradford reunites with Eagles offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur, who was in the same position in St. Louis in 2010 when Bradford was the NFL's Offensive Rookie of the Year and that no doubt played into the equation. Bradford is a supremely talented quarterback who hasn't been able to develop as the Rams built around him in the early years – he absorbed 34 sacks as a rookie, 36 in 2011 and 35 in 2012 without a lot of talent around him – and then the injuries took two seasons away from his progress.

Bradford was injured in the opener of last summer's preseason game for the Rams when Browns defensive end Armonty Bryant rolled into Bradford's left knee.

But Bradford stands tall in the pocket and spins it like few quarterbacks can. The challenge for him, of course, has been the health issue. Is he suddenly able to stay healthy? Can the Eagles build around him so that Bradford can get the ball out quickly and not take big hits? How does the offense change with Bradford/Sanchez running the show?

The quarterback-for-quarterback trade – as unusual as any in the NFL and only the 2009 deal that sent Jay Cutler to Chicago and Kyle Orton and draft picks to Denver and the 2004 trade that sent Eli Manning to New York and Philip Rivers and draft picks to San Diego come to mind – brings to Philadelphia a player who has all the talent in the world.

There are more questions with the offense. Leading rusher LeSean McCoy was officially traded on Tuesday to Buffalo. Leading wide receiver Jeremy Maclin is reportedly on his way to sign a free-agent contract in Kansas City.

Who will Bradford (or Sanchez) throw the ball to? Who is running the football? Legitimate questions and it all goes back to trusting that Chip Kelly, with 20 wins in his first two NFL seasons, will have the answers.

The acquisition of Bradford was one of two announced on Tuesday.


Rome

Sorry - I meant to say that I found one positive article, although strangely, even Spindaro seems to be measuring things in comparison to his usual puff pieces.

Plus I posted it just to piss off drunky drunk boy, so...

Zanshin

Don't worry about the ACL thing. We have smoothies.

MDS

Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.