Week 10 - Carolina Monday Night

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ice grillin you

Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on November 11, 2014, 01:46:01 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2014, 01:21:13 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 11, 2014, 01:17:34 PM
Chip says he isn't happy with how the offense played last night

i said this leaving the game

run game was an embarrassment and sanchez was terribly inaccurate

Sanchez was spot on after the first quarter with the exception of timing on bubble screens.  It was against a bad defense so it needs to be qualified but "terribly inaccurate" is terribly inaccurate.  Hit people in stride more this game than Foles did most of the year.

20 completions and 18 incompletes
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LBIggle

Quote from: smeags on November 11, 2014, 10:04:23 AM
imagine the defense if the 1st round draft pick wasn't an epic bust.

agree.. a first round pick anywhere on the defense that could actually make the field would be super right about now, especially with ryans shelved for the season.

you know you're a bust when nolan caroll is playing more LB then you.

Eagles_Legendz

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2014, 02:21:38 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on November 11, 2014, 01:46:01 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2014, 01:21:13 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 11, 2014, 01:17:34 PM
Chip says he isn't happy with how the offense played last night

i said this leaving the game

run game was an embarrassment and sanchez was terribly inaccurate

Sanchez was spot on after the first quarter with the exception of timing on bubble screens.  It was against a bad defense so it needs to be qualified but "terribly inaccurate" is terribly inaccurate.  Hit people in stride more this game than Foles did most of the year.

20 completions and 18 incompletes

It was actually 20 and 17 (I'm sure that makes a world of difference).  He started 2 of 7 and finished 18 of 30.  Regardless, I thought you said last week you look at the game with your eyes and not stats?  Most of Sanchez's incomplete passes came on plays near the LOS where timing was off.  Sproles dropped one over the middle, McCoy dropped two, Cooper was blocking when a bubble screen was thrown to him.  I mean, feel free to see whatever you want from it but if you actually rewatch the game and look at the passes he missed I think you'll be hard pressed to find he was off let alone terribly inaccurate.   This is all semantics anyway as one game against the Panthers proves little but for all you talk about people's inability to be objective, I have a hard time thinking you watched the game and thought he was "terribly inaccurate."  I just don't think many people, Eagles fans or not, who watched that would agree with that assessment. 

LBIggle

also.. does anyone know how much of coopers contact is guaranteed?  i mean not only does the dude not contribute in any way shape or form from the WR position.. but anytime he's involved in any play that requires him doing anything football related, it usually ranges from nothing good to something terrible happening every single time.

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LBIggle

Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on November 11, 2014, 02:49:50 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2014, 02:21:38 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on November 11, 2014, 01:46:01 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2014, 01:21:13 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 11, 2014, 01:17:34 PM
Chip says he isn't happy with how the offense played last night

i said this leaving the game

run game was an embarrassment and sanchez was terribly inaccurate

Sanchez was spot on after the first quarter with the exception of timing on bubble screens.  It was against a bad defense so it needs to be qualified but "terribly inaccurate" is terribly inaccurate.  Hit people in stride more this game than Foles did most of the year.

20 completions and 18 incompletes

It was actually 20 and 17 (I'm sure that makes a world of difference).  He started 2 of 7 and finished 18 of 30.  Regardless, I thought you said last week you look at the game with your eyes and not stats?  Most of Sanchez's incomplete passes came on plays near the LOS where timing was off.  Sproles dropped one over the middle, McCoy dropped two, Cooper was blocking when a bubble screen was thrown to him.  I mean, feel free to see whatever you want from it but if you actually rewatch the game and look at the passes he missed I think you'll be hard pressed to find he was off let alone terribly inaccurate.   This is all semantics anyway as one game against the Panthers proves little but for all you talk about people's inability to be objective, I have a hard time thinking you watched the game and thought he was "terribly inaccurate."  I just don't think many people, Eagles fans or not, who watched that would agree with that assessment.

so basically he played to his career averages.  he even had the pick (since he's never thrown for more than 270 yards without one) that dude just stepped out of bounds on.  still though i think everyone would agree the passing game looked better than with mr. backpedal.  once foles stop taking care of the football (even though he had alot of luck with that last year) he became a below average qb.  sanchez brings what foles cannot.. mobility and quick decision making.  whether he can consistently make the right decisions remains to be seen but that's been what has held him back.  now that he has some talent surrounding him he shouldn't need to press and hopefully that helps him out.

ice grillin you

Quote from: LBIggle on November 11, 2014, 03:04:29 PM
so basically he played to his career averages.  he even had the pick (since he's never thrown for more than 270 yards without one) that dude just stepped out of bounds on.  still though i think everyone would agree the passing game looked better than with mr. backpedal.  once foles stop taking care of the football (even though he had alot of luck with that last year) he became a below average qb.  sanchez brings what foles cannot.. mobility and quick decision making.  whether he can consistently make the right decisions remains to be seen but that's been what has held him back.  now that he has some talent surrounding him he shouldn't need to press and hopefully that helps him out.

yeah turnovers are the key....i dont think sanchez will ever be a super accurate qb...but dont turn the ball over and convert in the red zone and he will be just fine
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General_Failure

He'll either settle down and become a good QB, or we'll be looking at the Sam Bradford Experience by week 8 next year and the cycle continues.

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Seabiscuit36

Quote from: LBIggle on November 11, 2014, 02:52:48 PM
also.. does anyone know how much of coopers contact is guaranteed?  i mean not only does the dude not contribute in any way shape or form from the WR position.. but anytime he's involved in any play that requires him doing anything football related, it usually ranges from nothing good to something terrible happening every single time.
How many times has a QB thrown to him and he's not even looking.  I really don't think he's capable of understanding the playcalls and hot routes.   
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ice grillin you

yeah hes a terrible route runner

also most of his salary next year is guarnteed and then hes basically off the books....so we probably have one more year of having to watch him
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

General_Failure

He's going to be a well paid third or, hopefully, fourth receiver. And he won't even have to learn how to return punts or kickoffs. What a lucky guy.

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Sgt PSN

I know Avant wasn't anything special, but he's a pro.  I still can't believe they kept KKKooper over him.


ice grillin you

Quote from: General_Failure on November 12, 2014, 10:49:45 AM
He's going to be a well paid third or, hopefully, fourth receiver.

yeah even if hes on the roster they need to aqcquire a wr that passes him on the depth chart..as has been mentioned many times before...imagine this offense with a legit threat at his spot...they have had terrible play from the qb position this year and an entire outside half of the field that essentially doesnt need to be defensed because kkk and they still have a top 10 passing offense
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous