Eagles 2014 Draft

[ice grillin you]

If Smith can develop into something similar to Carlos Emmons, that'd be fine with me.  The fact that we're talking about Carlos Emmons (7th round) being the ceiling for the 26th pick in the draft still infuriates me though. 

infuriates may be a tad strong for me but in general i agree with this...i dont think hes gonna be a bust or anything but for a first round pick your expectations should be limited especially if you think hes gonna be an edge rusher...my main issue with him imo is that hes a tweener...i dont see the athleticsm there to be able to get the edge on NFL OT's and at over 250 lbs i dont know how effective hes going to be in a lot of space

i do think likd sd said that he can be moved around and become an effective scheme pass rusher....get to RB's make plays....and turn and drop some...i just dont see him doing any one thing worthy of being picked close to where he was

[Rome]

Shut up all of you.

[smeags]

the andy reid wannabes of the world are awesome.

[ice grillin you]

so are the people who never heard of marcus smith until last thursday

[MDS]

essentially they had 3 options at 26. 1) bpa 2) fill a need 3) trade back down

the difference between the bpa and the need was moot in their eyes. they didnt feel like trading back down would bring them any significant value (unlike the 1st trade). so they took a need.

it wasnt a home run pick but they did what they did given the situation they were in. you can argue the talent evaluation (they could be very wrong about smith and the players they passed up) but the thought process makes sense to me.

[ice grillin you]

i dont have a problem with need over BPA...but i feel like this is a pick where chips philosophy hurts him because he narrows the definition of what he needs down so much that it caused them to take the guy to early...chips wants a long versatile 3-4 OLB...the problem is there was like three of them in the first three rounds

but if he would have come off the whole length versatile gotta have a college degree thing and instead more narrowly defined the definiton of his need to say 3-4 edge rusher he could have made a better pick imo and got a dee ford or chewey

but like i said maybe he truly is a genius....shtein i half believe it myself...i raised their win total from 6 to 8 after a draft that i didnt like

[smeags]

can you find it in your heart to raise the team's wins to 10-11 ?

[hbionic]

so are the people who never heard of marcus smith until last thursday

Would you believe I actually had heard of him? I wouldn't.

[ice grillin you]

so are the people who never heard of marcus smith until last thursday

Would you believe I actually had heard of him? I wouldn't.

it wouldnt completely shock me if you never heard of lj smith

[hbionic]

You just reminded me of him. I've been trying to erase him from memory. I'm going to have to start all over. Thanks a lot.

[Don Ho]

so are the people who never heard of marcus smith until last thursday

You got me there.  Up until 11:10 PM EST last Thursday I had no idea who Marcus Smith was.  I thought I scoured enough draft sites to get a feel for the players out there that fit what the birds needed.  I can't recall ever seeing his name mentioned.

I survived Michael Haddix, Kevin Allen, Lester Holmes, Leonerd Renfro, Mamula, Jon Harris, The Canadian Fireman, I'll survive this.

[smeags]

so are the people who never heard of marcus smith until last thursday

You got me there.  Up until 11:10 PM EST last Thursday I had no idea who Marcus Smith was.  I thought I scoured enough draft sites to get a feel for the players out there that fit what the birds needed.  I can't recall ever seeing his name mentioned.

I survived Michael Haddix, Kevin Allen, Lester Holmes, Leonerd Renfro, Mamula, Jon Harris, The Canadian Fireman, I'll survive this.

kenny jackson still aint getting his props.

[SD]

If Smith can develop into something similar to Carlos Emmons, that'd be fine with me.  The fact that we're talking about Carlos Emmons (7th round) being the ceiling for the 26th pick in the draft still infuriates me though.

He was drafted to rush the passer first and foremost...if he gets 10+ sacks and applies consistent pressure on the qb nobody will give two shteins if he can cover TEs or play the run.

I knew who he was because I read up on all the draft picks...but I only watched a few Louisville games

[General_Failure]

If he gets 10+ sacks and applies constant pressure I will never stop whacking it.

[Sgt PSN]

If he gets 10+ sacks per year, then he'll be living up to 1st Rd expectations, which will have me not hating the pick as much.

The pick was a reach, and most likely an unnecessary reach at that. From the little I've seen and read  on him since the draft, I'm moderately excited about him. If he winds up being a Carlos Emmons type, I'll be very pleased. But that still doesn't mean that the Eagles didn't reach.

It's like overspending on a house. Sure, it still will likely turn you a profit when you sell in 20 years, but that doesn't mean you didn't pay too much for it in the 1st place.