Phillies Season Thread 2013

[ice grillin you]

huh?....got the wrong people buddy

[MDS]

you are mr. anti advanced stats. the slightest discussion of non-back of the baseball card stats, or simply dismissing some of them, breaks the very foundation of your core.

but you like walks?

[Sgt PSN]

I'm pretty sure walks has been a notable stat for over a hundred years....and has been found on the backs of baseball cards since 1981. 

[ice grillin you]

I'm pretty sure walks has been a notable stat for over a hundred years

what is this thing called a walk?

is that like a VORP?

[Sgt PSN]

It's exactly like a VORP.  Except it's easy to understand and relevant. 

[ice grillin you]

delmon young and michael young both playoff bound

philly sports

[MDS]

I'm pretty sure walks has been a notable stat for over a hundred years....and has been found on the backs of baseball cards since 1981. 

i thought that youre not up there to walk though?

and walks dont help your AVERAGE

[ice grillin you]

really no one knows what you are talking about.....skip to the next topic at hand

[Sgt PSN]

A batters job, at a bare minimum, is to get on base. Hit, walk, hbp....I really don't care how it happens. 

[ice grillin you]

a walk isnt as good as a hit but who would ever say its a bad thing.....its better than a strikeout!!

lil billy beane guy trying to co-opt the stat as a sabremetrics invention is just ridiculous

[Sgt PSN]

The value of a walk depends on the situation, IMO. Lead off walk is just as good as a lead off single. Drawing a walk with a runner on 3rd and < 2 outs is damn near useless.

[ice grillin you]

a bases empty walk is def better than a single because more often than not it means you probbaly received more pitches

[Sgt PSN]

That goes without saying. I'm a bigger fan of a 4+ pitch walk than I am a 1st or 2nd pitch single.

[ice grillin you]

Lead off walk is just as good as a lead off single.

a bases empty walk is def better than a single

That goes without saying.

[Sgt PSN]

Haha.  It's better big picture wise because you're making the pitcher throw more pitches.  In the moment, a 1st pitch single or an 8 pitch walk carry the same weight.  Runner on 1st, no outs.