Rest Of Baseball - 2013

[Rome]

Glavine is a NO?

The hell is wrong with you?  Dude won 300 games.  He's IN.

So is Rock Raines.  His stats are debatable but he's my all-time favorite baseball player, so farg you, he's in.

[hbionic]

lol at Romey and his man love for Raines (who was a beast by the way). He is Andre Dawson-ish.

I looked at Tom Glavine. I think when lined up with Maddux, and Smoltz, he's definitely #3. Maddux is a no-brainer...Smoltz...well...I can debate it...and depending on what school of thought you come from...should a Hall of Famer be no question or should you make a case for them? I think if you have to make a case, they are NOT a hall of famer.

[Geowhizzer]

The only reason Mattingly's even a consideration is that he played in New York.  Otherwise, he's Cecil Cooper.

[Geowhizzer]

Here's my choices for all that care... and eveyone:

My HOF Ballot:

PED group:
Barry Bonds
Roger Clemens
Mark McGwire
Rafael Palmeiro
Sammy Sosa

Non-PED Group
Jeff Bagwell (yeah, there's allegations...)
Craig Biggio
Tom Glavine
Edgar Martinez
Fred McGriff
Jack Morris
Mike Mussina
Mike Piazza
Tim Raines
Curt Schilling
Lee Smith
Frank Thomas

Rationale: 
1. If you're going to let Bonds/Clemens skate by on PEDs, you have to let all of them skate by (Sosa, Palmeiro).  I go back and forth about the steroids generation, and right now have the opinion that you almost have to assume that anyone with gaudy numbers like that from the 1990s-2000s were using.  Either let them all in or keep them all out. 

2. Hard to believe that Mussina a) won 270 games, and b) retired after winning 20.  If he pitches two more years, he may have the 300 and a slam-dunk election.

3. I love me the 1980s guys.  Reminds me of being young.


Summary

If I had to name 10 (since I believe that's the limit), here are my selections:
Jeff Bagwell
Craig Biggio
Tom Glavine
Jack Morris
Mike Mussina
Mike Piazza
Tim Raines
Curt Schilling
Lee Smith
Frank Thomas

farg the PED users.  They can wait a few more years.  McGriff and Martinez are borderline to me, and can wait one more year.

[ice grillin you]

YES this year - maddux

YES in the future - big hurt, glavine

MAYBE in the future - schilling, raines, piazza

[SunMo]

Cano to Seattle, 10 years $240M

[phattymatty]

The only reason Mattingly's even a consideration is that he played in New York.  Otherwise, he's Cecil Cooper.

yeah i went back and looked at his stats after i said that and they're not nearly as good as i thought. but him and mike schmidt were pretty much the face of baseball when i was a kid so i would still vote him in.

[ice grillin you]

hes only a consideration because they basically put anyone on there...sean casey is up for consideration too

outside of maybe louie from new rochelle no one really thinks mattingly is a HOF

[MDS]

glavine is a lock, its not even a debate

i cant wait to see who leaves maddux off their ballot.

[Geowhizzer]

1983-1987 (you could even say 1989), Mattingly looked like a sure HOFer.  .331 average, 30 homers each year.

After 1989, though, he was  limited power (58 HRs total) and a .280 hitter.  Basically he was Ricky Jordan.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Carlos Beltran, NY Yankee....3yrs $15M

[ice grillin you]

Carlos Beltran, NY Yankee....3yrs $15M

jesus thats insanely cheap

[PhillyPhreak54]

Same thing I thought...

He's a solid player even at 36.

I lol'd when listening to the radio today and one dude called McCann an "enforcer"

[PhillyPhreak54]

shtein....my bad

3yrs $45M....$15M per year

[ice grillin you]

ahhh....makes more sense