2012 Flyers Offseason Thread

Started by BigEd76, June 21, 2012, 11:36:37 AM

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Quote from: SunMo on June 23, 2012, 05:10:00 PM
i hope that's a joke, thats a hideous trade if true

Awful trade. Schenn is a 2nd/3rd pairing guy, you don't give up a young talented player for him. I'm not even a JVR fan, I like his potential and size, but he's worth much more than Schenn.

And watch, Parise is going to sign with Pittsburgh who's had one hell of an offseason so far.

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The only thing you can say positive about this deal is Schenn shoots righthanded.  That's it.  Stupid farging deal to be sure because JVR has the potential to be a star.

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Quote from: SunMo on June 23, 2012, 05:13:01 PM
typical flyers giving up on a young player after a bad deal.

schenn is 6 months older

i like the trade...reemer is a dime a dozen player....schenn may be as well.....we will see...but id rather take the chance on a young defenseman which they have none of anywhere in the system
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Quote from: ice grillin you on June 23, 2012, 05:54:01 PM
Quote from: SunMo on June 23, 2012, 05:13:01 PM
typical flyers giving up on a young player after a bad deal.

schenn is 6 months older

i like the trade...reemer is a dime a dozen player....schenn may be as well.....we will see...but id rather take the chance on a young defenseman which they have none of anywhere in the system

Dr. Contrarian misses the point. JVR has more value than Schenn does. A guy like Schenn could of been had for the first round pick, a guy like JVR has more value. He has a higher upside...maybe you disagree with that but the general consensus from around the league is that he does. Schenn's ceiling is pretty much what he produced in Toronto, JVR's ceiling is Nash. Big difference.

ice grillin you

jvr has medicore value...hes a 20-30 goal scorer tops in the nhl.....defenseman are much more valuable than 25 goal scorers...flyers had seven players last year who had btwn 18 and 37 goals....those players are fairly easy to find

its was a perfectly even trade but ill always take the young defenseman which are much harder to come by
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Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on June 23, 2012, 07:15:49 PM
What is Schenn's contract

better

if i recall its about a million less per...and has four years left as opposed to reemers six
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ice grillin you

just looked it up....not a million

4.25 for reemer
3.6 for schenn
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The Flyers traded an asset for a need, and an underperforming young player for another underperforming player.  JVR was a #2, Schenn a #5.  While the Flyers ideally may have been able to get a draftpick on top of Schenn, apparently Burke was willing to walk away from that because of the extra contract.  I'm OK with the trade - not thrilled, but OK.

That said, watch JVR score 40 next year.

ice grillin you

flyer fans have always way overrated jvr...from the minute he was drafted

patrick sharp who they got nothing for you never hear anyone talkvabout but jvr who will never score as much as sharp and who they got a young promising player for is the worst trade ever...flyer fans homer hand is strong
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Geowhizzer

Two more thoughts on Schenn:

1.  Schenn will be some added toughness to the defense, along with Grossmann.  It's all too evident that Pronger is never coming back, and the defense was pushed around a bunch last year.

2.  Schenn is right-handed.  Not that he will be of much help offensively, but I was sick of defenders trying to play the puck off the wall on their backhand. 

SD

As it stands now the Flyers are $11.5 million under the cap. They can be 10% over the cap during the offseason as long as they're  under the cap once the season starts. The cap is estimated to be at $70 million so in reality they have $18.5 million under the cap considering Pronger is going on the LTIR meaning his space won't count once the season starts and they'll be under. Plenty of space if they want to sign a guy like Parise although I still think he signs with Pittsburgh which really sucks. What to do with that space. They could keep a guy like Carle, re-sign their own and still have money left over.