2011-2012 Sixers Thread

Started by MDS, December 26, 2011, 08:05:53 PM

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SD

I'm thinking out loud here but how about signing a guy like Roy Hibbert [assuming they amnesty Brand] and keeping the rest of the team. I'd still rather they move one or a combination of Iggy/ET/Thad for a scorer/big man but if they're not willing to part with one of them why not sign a big man like Hibbert.

Sgt PSN

Quote from: SD on May 27, 2012, 11:43:44 AM
Some times the best moves are the ones you don't make. Odom playing up to his potential would have been a good idea but they must have known he was a head case.

QuoteAndre Iguodala was nearly traded from the Philadelphia 76ers to the Los Angeles Lakers last June. In the hours leading up to the 2011 NBA Draft, the two teams were discussing a potential deal that would've sent Iguodala to Los Angeles in exchange for several pieces including Lamar Odom and a draft pick.

The Lakers were ready to pull the trigger on the deal and the Sixers strongly considered it. However, Philadelphia ultimately turned down the trade because they believed that Odom would be unhappy and unmotivated after being dealt from Los Angeles.

After watching Odom struggle with the Dallas Mavericks and get dismissed from the team in April, there's no question that Philadelphia made the right decision. Their read on Odom was entirely accurate – he had the worst year of his career, averaging 6.6 points and 4.1 rebounds – and now they find themselves one game away from the Eastern Conference Finals.

However, if the Sixers are eliminated by the Boston Celtics in Game 7, the general consensus around the league is that they'll try to trade Iguodala this summer. Even with Philadelphia's recent success, league sources insist that Iguodala is a player who could be moved this offseason if the right offer comes along.

The Lakers, who are looking to shake their roster up this offseason, are expected to once again emerge as a potential suitor for Iguodala. The 28-year-old would be an excellent fit for Los Angeles and solve their problem at small forward. Sources close to the situation say that Kobe Bryant would welcome the move since he has wanted the Lakers to acquire an athletic, versatile small forward for several years.

I can't see the Lakers giving up Bynum for Iggy + a player like Vuc. Maybe if the Sixers sweeten the pot with a guy like Jrue they'd go for it but to me that's too much value. A more reasonable option is Gasol, he's in his 30's but he's the sort of big man they'd need. Do they do something like this who knows but I like the talk.

If you're putting Jrue in the deal, then the Sixers would have to get Sessions in return somehow.  Or add a 3rd team in the mix that would send a PG to Philly.  So maybe something like Iggy/Jrue/Vuc for Bynum/Sessions?  Although I'd prefer to see them trade ET and keep Iggy.  Who knows, Lakers want to get younger and more athletic, not to mention that they desperately want to get under the luxury tax so that they don't start getting hit with the "repeater tax" that was part of the new CBA.   And with Kobe's 30mil/year salary, maybe they'd prefer to take on a lower salary like ET instead of Iggy. 

And I'd rather have Bynum than Gasol, but Bynum has some serious maturity issues and he tends to disappear a lot...either in a big game or over a stretch of games.  Of course, he also has a dominant streak in him as well where over the course of 4 or 5 games you watch him play and think that if he played like that more consistently there wouldn't even be a debate between him or Howard being the best center in the game.

 

MDS

Quote from: SD on May 27, 2012, 12:10:42 PM
I'm thinking out loud here but how about signing a guy like Roy Hibbert [assuming they amnesty Brand] and keeping the rest of the team. I'd still rather they move one or a combination of Iggy/ET/Thad for a scorer/big man but if they're not willing to part with one of them why not sign a big man like Hibbert.

havas also nixed the hibbert talk. hes and old, slow center that wont let them get on the break enough. so thats that. sorry.

im alright with igy + ____ for bynum. as long as the ____ is not jrue. getting a legit center in the nba is almost impossible, so if hes out there you gotta do it. besides superstar scorers getting a guy like that is the toughest thing to come by
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

SD

Hibbert is only 25. I'm not saying sign the guy but he's a better option than Hawes. Anyone think theyll make a run at williams?

PhillyPhreak54

Josh Harris and Adam Aron want to win, so we have owners who seemingly won't shy away from activity.

Dennis Deitch has been saying he believes it will be Iggy for Gasol. Then he'd sign Jameer and make a run at Ryan Anderson. Jameer would mentor Jrue.

SD

I'm on the fence with Gasol...on the one hand he's a good player on the other hand he's 32 and has the luxury of playing with a lot of talent. Does getting him and subtracting iggy get you that much closer? Maybe if they can add a shooter.

SunMo

i'd prefer marc gasol over pau gasol

and pau seems like another little bitch who would tank if he came here
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

SD

I get the impression the new owners want to do a major shakeup but at the same time they might be better off waiting it out another season, keeping what they have intact, and using a max contract or adding a player in a much deeper F/A class the following season. I'd rather wait it out a year, let the young guys develop, then add a piece or two to make a run.

Sgt PSN

Quote from: SunMo on May 29, 2012, 08:31:12 AM
i'd prefer marc gasol over pau gasol

and pau seems like another little bitch who would tank if he came here

Pau is def the more skilled and versatile player, especially on offense. But yeah, he is soft and can easily be intimidated on the court. Marc has more attitude in his game but he's not even close to Pau in terms of offensive skill. But he's also the better defender of the 2 and I think he'd be a better fit with Collins and the fans since he's more of a blue collar player.

SD

I hope they stay away from Kris Humprhies, good guy to have on the boards and decent defensive player but I just don't see the huge upgrade or that he gets them closer to the finals. Maybe I'd feel different if he was still with Kim and we'd get to see her fat ass in the crowd.

ice grillin you

Quote from: MDS on May 27, 2012, 02:06:23 PM
Quote from: SD on May 27, 2012, 12:10:42 PM
I'm thinking out loud here but how about signing a guy like Roy Hibbert [assuming they amnesty Brand] and keeping the rest of the team. I'd still rather they move one or a combination of Iggy/ET/Thad for a scorer/big man but if they're not willing to part with one of them why not sign a big man like Hibbert.

havas also nixed the hibbert talk. hes and old, slow center that wont let them get on the break enough. so thats that. sorry.

chris humphries would be a better fit for this team...hibbert works on a spot up shooting team that doesnt run a motion offense like indiana...sixers have no shooters and have to runs tons of motion to get pts in a half court set...and obviously humpries runs the floor much better than hibbert...problem with humphries is hes a good rebounder but hes not a great defender and not a rim protector at all...i dont like guys that get their rebounds via their quickness...tipping balls to themselves chasing down long rebounds ect...sixers need a rim defending shot blocking rebounder

if javale mcgee would grow up and not be a farging idiot he could be the guy

on the scoring front hes an injury risk but id take a run at eric gordon if he becomes available....when hes healthy hes the dynamic scorer they need...question is do you wanna cake off a guy who never plays
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

MDS

or they could just get howard or bynum

a girl can dream ya know
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

SD

This guy knows stuff [sxersfan1976 on realgm]. He's throwing out hypotheticals on their board so I thought I'd throw them out here. To me if there's any way you can get Williams/Howard you do it by any means necessary.

QuoteThis is hypothetical.........just wanted to get some feedback on if you would do or not. I personally think the sixers need to add some bonafide stars if possible to make them more marketable.

I think the team is in a spot very similar to where Boston was before they added Allen and Garnett int hat they have a bunch of young players that teams covet. Its time to take the next step.

So these are two scenarios.............Asking if you would do A, B or neither....with the caveat that neither probably gets you say Kris Humphries and Wesley Matthews/Batum or something like that.

Both of these scenarios are ASSUMING that Deron Williams comes here because we acquired Dwight Howard.(Brand amnesty)

Assumption made: Orlando will not trade us Dwight Howard unless we take on the contract of Jason Richardson or Hedo Turkoglu

Trade 1) Trade Andre Iguodala, Jrue Holiday, Thad Young and Nik Vucevic to Orlando for Dwight Howard, Jason Richardson and Earl Clark

Gives you a base team(free agency would need to fill out depth)

Deron Williams
Jason Richardson
Evan Turner
Lavoy Allen
Dwight Howard

Trade 2) Tarde Iguodala, Turner, Thad and Nik for Dwight, Hedo and Clark

Gives you a base team of
Deron
Jrue
Hedo
Allen
Howard

Option C) Neither
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ice grillin you

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that could be the most ridiculous idiotic thing ive ever read...and not even cause it would be dumb to do it...i didnt even really analyze the proposals...but because it would never ever happen

its basically a couple fantasy basketball trades but in a message board post rather than in a league

edit: i misread...i thought you were saying they would end up with howard AND deron....either way its not happening as howard wont play in philly and all signs say deron wont either...i dont even like him that much anyway.....also whoever posted that is way overevaluating the sixers talent.....i can guarantee you they dont have a lot of players other teams "covet"...they dont have any two players who put together were as "coveted" as al jefferson was all by himself
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SD