Phillies Offseason Thread

[Sgt PSN]

since they plan on starting hof brown in AAA that means they also need a right fielder. and since victorino is the only possible player they can trade, he might go, too.

also they have no money. also the heart and soul in jimmy might go. also choke is beyond damaged good and is just starting his 5 year extension. also utley is a waste of space.

also....farg this team.

Don't they actually need a left fielder?

Are you questioning Toddrick? 

[MDS]

man i just served one into FF's wheelhouse and he didnt miss it

I am broxton (power pitcher), he is stairs (drunk canadian always lookin to jack one) cept i aint scurred of comin back

[PhillyPhreak54]

Conlin suggested moving MAAAyberry to 3rd - not sure I see him making that switch.

Go get a LF (new guy - Bonehead - Goofball)

Get a real utility guy who can step in at 3rd should Polanco not be able to recover enough.

Get a real backup catcher to take the load off Ruiz more

Who is do you want as a closer?

[Sgt PSN]

Get a real utility guy who can step in at 3rd should Polanco not be able to recover enough.

Get a real backup catcher to take the load off Ruiz more

Who is do you want as a closer?

That would be Wilson Valdez.  He ain't great at the plate, but he can play nearly every position in the infield, including relief pitcher. 

Serious question - How many teams have a "real" backup catcher? 

Resigning Madson should be priority #1a.  If he walks, then they have to go after Bell, Cordero, or (gasp) Paplebon.  Maybe K-Rod as a dark horse but I don't want him....he doesn't seem to have the "it" factor anymore that he had in Anaheim.   

[MDS]

lol @ a real backup catcher. what is that. is brian schneider a fake backup catcher? im confused

lol @ "should polanco not recover." unless you invent a time machine, polanco aint recovering.

[Sgt PSN]

Polanco will recover just fine.  Problem is that just like this year, he'll be toast by the AS break. 

[ice grillin you]

Yes^^^^ and lol at them not having any money. They have roughly $40 million coming off the books. Maybe they don't go out and sign the biggest f/a on the market but there's enough money to add some players. This is no longer the nickle and dime Phillies, they've sold out over 200 games and have the added revenue of playoff games from the last 5 seasons.

its not that they dont have money they dont have money that can help them....they have money to possibly replace stuff they are gonna lose or re up what they have....so at best if their moves work out they go in with the same quality team as last year except that all the 30+ year olds are a year older and choke is done

the window is shut...they will be competitive next year but winning the world series is out of the question and in fact missing the playoffs is a much more likely result than winning a title

[MDS]

i wont go that far since baseball is so random but their chances arent very good

they had their shot and they blew it. farg 2012.

[ice grillin you]

you think next year they have a better chance of winning it all than missing the playoffs?

[Sgt PSN]

you think next year they have a better chance of winning it all than missing the playoffs?

Barring a long term injury to the starting rotation, I'll say yes.  Look at it like this.....to win the WS, it's the Phils vs the field.  1 in 30 chance.  To win the division it's 1 in 5.  And that's not including the wild card, which would probably put them around a 1 in 8 chance.  So yeah, the Phils have a better chance to win it all than they do not making the playoffs at all.   

[MDS]

you think next year they have a better chance of winning it all than missing the playoffs?

look the cardinals are terrible and they might win it this year. its not like hoops or football where you can say oh they dont have the talent and it cant happen.

but with their pitching still presumably what it is and with the nl east still being rather zesty....i mean they are still a playoff contender and therefore "have a shot" though most likely their disgustingly old and slow lineup will be finished by august.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

It is all about the pitching staying healthy and the bats getting hot at the right time. Unfortunately, the 2011 team had mediocre offense more often than not, so the odds of going on a tear against the stellar Cards was... meh.

Just don't see how next year's team actually has a chance to be better.

[charlie]

It is all about the pitching staying healthy and the bats getting hot at the right time. Unfortunately, the 2011 team had mediocre offense more often than not, so the odds of going on a tear against the stellar Cards was... meh.

Just don't see how next year's team actually has a chance to be better.

They don't have to be better. They need to be younger, a little more unpredictable... and losing a bunch of dead weight this offseason will help them with that.

[ice grillin you]

you think next year they have a better chance of winning it all than missing the playoffs?

look the cardinals are terrible and they might win it this year. its not like hoops or football where you can say oh they dont have the talent and it cant happen.

but with their pitching still presumably what it is and with the nl east still being rather zesty....i mean they are still a playoff contender and therefore "have a shot" though most likely their disgustingly old and slow lineup will be finished by august.

cardinals have larussa.....the guy is a magician...in fact if theres one thing that could help the phillies it would be to get a new manager than can inject some life in the team....the pitching is due for a regression simply because of age...the lineup is pathetic with no real help on the way...im not saying blow it all up you obviously cant do that but this was the last year of the window being wide open....its now headed in the other direction...the question is how fast

[charlie]

I agree with the new manager. They wouldn't fire manual though, not this offseason.