Phillies Offseason Thread

SD · November 11, 2011, 02:27:08 PM

It's being reported Papelbon is now a Phillie pending a physical on his shoulder

Sgt PSN · November 11, 2011, 02:30:58 PM

Eww

Hawk · November 11, 2011, 02:34:19 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST2Z-mqYTDo

SD · November 11, 2011, 02:35:01 PM

Starks is saying it might be 4 years $13 million per.

Munson · November 11, 2011, 02:37:41 PM

Gross. I'd rather have 11 mil per year, better stuff, year younger madson

Sgt PSN · November 11, 2011, 02:40:08 PM

I'd rather have Lidge. This isn't about talent or ability at this point, it's simply about Paplebon being one of the few players I genuinely can't stand to watch. He's really good, no doubt. I just don't like him or his stupid face.

BigEd76 · November 11, 2011, 02:45:33 PM

hate this guy but he's a top-5 closer, so I dunno

Salisbury says it's around 4/$50M

Hawk · November 11, 2011, 02:47:43 PM

Don't the Phils have to give the Sox the 31st pick now too?

BigEd76 · November 11, 2011, 02:51:02 PM

yup, but they'll get a better pick back (plus a comp pick) if one of the top teams signs Madson

Eagles_Legendz · November 11, 2011, 03:14:29 PM

Quote from: Munson on November 11, 2011, 02:37:41 PM
Gross. I'd rather have 11 mil per year, better stuff, year younger madson

isn't papelbon like 3 months younger than Madson.

I'm indifferent to it. Papelbon's ERA has gone up a little the last few years, but his WHIP is still really low and his K/9, K:BB rates are solid. Meh.

PhillyPhreak54 · November 11, 2011, 03:14:42 PM

$50M?!

BigEd76 · November 11, 2011, 03:19:11 PM

Stark is saying there's a 5th-yr vesting option that could make the deal $60M

Eagles_Legendz · November 11, 2011, 03:20:48 PM

that is way too much for a closer, even one as good as he's been.

i still can't get that annoying farging boston accent out of my head. Papppellbonnnn. Bleh.

charlie · November 11, 2011, 03:21:38 PM

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 11, 2011, 03:14:42 PM
$50M?!

don't worry, you can pay in installments.

juicy smug filled installments.

Eagles_Legendz · November 11, 2011, 03:26:15 PM

stolen from another board with extra sabermetricy stuff added on to make igy's head explode:

Player A: 64.1 IP, 2.94 ERA, 8.70 BB/K, 145 ERA+, xFIP 2.16
Player B: 62.2 IP, 2.44 ERA, 2.43 BB/K, 146 ERA+, xFIP 3.67
Player C: 60.2 IP, 2.37 ERA, 3.88 BB/K, 164 ERA+, xFIP 2.94

A is Papelbon, B is Bell, C is Madson.

I think Bell at this point is a product of Petco due to how many fly balls he gives up. I think Madson and Papelbon are pretty interchangeable. Madson's ERA is better, Papelbon k/bb ratio is way better. Little more concerned about Papelbon's arm than Madson's arm though towards the end of the deal.