Phillies Offseason Thread

[MDS]

then where will thome pla-ok i couldnt even get through that with a straight face

[Don Ho]

FWIW

http://bleacherreport.com/tb/bfGjL?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=philadelphia-phillies

Ramiro Pena, a 26-year-old all-glove, no-bat switch hitter specializing in shortstop, third and second.

He'll fit right in.

[PhillyPhreak54]

When is the movie going to be made about Amaro's philosophies?

"Amaroball; Who Needs Offense?"

Who will play His Smugness?

[Munson]

Elena DelleDonne is throwing out the first pitch at the home opener

And they're pushing Cole's start to home opener as well...hopefully to coincide with the announcement that they've signed him to a long term deal

[SunMo]

so the team that is desperate for offense sends down it's offensive prospect who goes 5-8 and 2 HR in two games.

but hey, John Mayberry and Laynce Nix are super

[ice grillin you]

they need him tearing up the minors all year so they can deal him at the deadline

[SunMo]

yeah, that's the stupidest farging thing i've heard.  macnow and gargano have been on that hardcore and it's farging moronic.

you have an aging team with limited offesne, so trade your 23 year old offensive prospect

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

you have an aging team with limited offesne, so trade your 23 year old offensive prospect

for a middle reliever

[ice grillin you]

if he was good enough to play in the majors hed be on the team...but he clearly isnt and they dont have time to live thru his growing pains...they need to win stat...

everyone also has doubts as to how good of a major league player he can ever be so if they can deal him while he still has decent value in order to win a world series this year they will do it

[SunMo]

he is good enough to play in the majors.  in fact he was better than ibanez last year and they should have sat him down when they traded for pence instead of sending dom down.  he takes pitches, gets on base and can run.  but yeah, lance nix

[ice grillin you]

well then the phillies are either horrendous judgers of talent or theres some sort of conspiracy...because if he could make their offense better this year and gives them a better chance to win a world series and they arent playing him then just blow up the franchise

imo they either:

1. have seen enough of him to know that he stinks right now and even in the long term has big questions...so they wanna showcase him in the minors to get the best possible return for him

2. they know he cant play right now and even though they feel he might be a good player down the road that they need a piece this year to help them since grit and choke are most likely going to be worthless this season

[SD]

He's a terrible fielder and the coaches weren't happy with his progress or work he put into becoming a better fielder so they sent him down. They either A) keep him up at the majors in a limited role as a bench player since his fielding is so horrendus or B) send him down and let him develop.

I'm fine with option B, he's not a better option at this point and clearly needs work with his fielding and in some cases with his hitting.

[ice grillin you]

thing is he has trouble catching pop ups...he literally cant judge fly balls...its not like hes really slow or has a terrible arm where its a physical defect or he has a learning curve where hes making a position switch to the outfield....hes also not 17

hes a 23 year old lifetime outfielder who cant catch fly balls...its to late to learn that

theres also concerns with his swing and whether at his height and length he can ever formulate a swing that wont get exposed at the major league level

i have no idea what his value is around the majors at this point but if he can bring back a legit bat like pence last year and they can afford that then you definitely do it

if his value has deteriorated to the point where hes gonna bring back a more middle fo the road bat that provides just a little improvement over what they have then you hold onto him and pray

[SunMo]

Seriously, they just played 3 seasons with Raul Ibanez in left field.  They obviously don't care about LF defense that much.

Let the farging kid go up against major league pitching and sink or swim.  LOL at him not being a better option than Lance Nix

[Geowhizzer]