Brandon Graham, Philadelphia Eagle

Started by Diomedes, April 22, 2010, 09:00:27 PM

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Diomedes

"a fine player who was contributing" is a charitable way to describe Graham's effort.  More like a middling player who showed a few flashes of promise but was otherwise a non-factor.

Not a single defense gave him a second thought when game planning for the Eagles.
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Drunkmasterflex

There were several times I saw him double teamed....so they had to at least acknowledge his presence. 
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ice grillin you

if he was ever double teamed it was because they had extra protection on that side anticipating a blitz that didnt come
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Sgt PSN

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 21, 2011, 09:04:26 AM
next year he will either not blow out his knee again play cautious and not show much or blow out his knee again and be done

i think we need to wait until 2012 to see any sort of real improvement from him

shtein ill be happy if he makes it thru the preseason without getting hurt again

He got hurt in Dec, right?  To be honest, I'll be surprised if he's on the field in preseason.  That's only 9 months after the injury.  Maybe because he doesn't rely on being able to cut or stop and start again he can get back on the field a little faster than a RB, WR or DB would, but I doubt it.  If he's not able to go full speed come training camp, either put him on the PUP which gives him an extra 6 weeks during the season to get ready or just throw him on the IR for the year and let him come back at 100% for 2012. 

Drunkmasterflex

There is no if about it, I saw it several times.  You could be right about anticipating the blitz or it could be just part of the play design.  I have no idea what Brandon Graham is or will be.  He showed some very promising flashes early in the season. But it was clear to see before his injury he was wearing down. 

I think if you put him on the Jints dline he would have had similar, if not better numbers than JPP. 
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Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 20, 2011, 03:59:38 PM
Pro Football Focus (whoever the hell they are) named Brandon Graham to their 2010 All Rookie Team

QuoteDefensive End – Brandon Graham, Philadelphia Eagles

Quite clearly wasn't ready to start in Week 1, and he was far too one-dimensional a player to play the run. Graham did improve before his season ended, and maintained his pass rush throughout to finish the year as the most productive rookie pass rusher (37 total pressures).


Interesting article in Philly.com regarding this. They actually give some decent data as to why they picked Graham and tell you why sacks don't always tell the whole story:
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/moving_the_chains/Grahams_production_as_a_rookie.html

ice grillin you

so unlike some players who get a sack and then disappear for the rest of the game graham gets a hurry and disappears for the rest of the game?

i dont get why we need nerd websites and newspapers to tell us about an eagles player

we see them play every week...its not like we are trying to find info on seattles defensive tackles

and with graham even if you think he was good this year...his knee exploded...so who cares if he had 12 sacks in the first 12 games

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Diomedes

If this motherfarger had put up 12 sacks in 12 games I'd feel a lot more hopeful about waiting so long to find out if his injury ruined him or not.
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Hawk

JPP had 6 tackles, 3 for a loss, 2 sacks, and a forced fumble yesterday against the Skins.

LOL @ this pick.

ice grillin you

PP is a farging monster and it was so blatantly obvious at the draft yet these dopes once again went for the vanilla nice guy

youd think after hitting on pimp that their philosophy would change but nope more grahams and teo's and matthews
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Drunkmasterflex

Big difference between "PP" and Pimp is that Pimp actually accomplished somethings in college.  PP was the classic boom or bust pick.
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Hawk

When the Eagles took a workout warrior, they ended up with Mamula.  Atleast Graham has a high motor!

PoopyfaceMcGee

I think Graham is going to be good, actually. But I doubt he plays this year unless one of the four rotational DE's is injured before the bye.

ice grillin you

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 12, 2011, 04:39:46 PM
Big difference between "PP" and Pimp is that Pimp actually accomplished somethings in college.  PP was the classic boom or bust pick.

the point is that a chimpanzee could have seen that graham was vanilla as farg and PP on his worst day would be at least as good and his best day was light years above grahams capabilities...but instead of recognizing that or even worse maybe they did recognize it but still went for the high motor high GPA guy
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous