FIRE HOWIE ROSEMAN!

Started by PhillyPhreak54, January 10, 2010, 10:47:24 PM

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reese125

I don't see it as a grudge towards Reid with any of these players.

I think its pretty cut and dry and the players expectations are already set when they come in.

This is how we do business. You hit 30+ expect to be released at any given time.

BigEd76

Since taking over, the Eagles have cut $96M...

smeags

#47
i am clinging to the internal rift theory in hopes it results in reid getting shtien canned.
If guns kill people then spoons made Rosie O'Donnel a fatass.

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it

SunMo

this will also work for andy with the donovan situation if/when they trade him.  andy puts the public spin that donovan is his qb and he wants him here.  behind closed doors, he and joe and howie decide to trade him.  when he's traded, andy acts like there was nothing he could do and the decision was made by the two butt buddies.
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

ice grillin you

the next time andy reid publically disagrees with banner inc will be the first
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SunMo

well andy already said donovan is his quarterback and banner said that they haven't evaluated that yet
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

ice grillin you

thats completely different than donovan leaving then andy coming out and saying publically he wished he was still here

i just cant ever see a scenario where banner inc would make up a fake rift btwn andy and them....the firestorm amongst the media and fans would be incredible if that happened

anyway why would andy need to publically support donovan if he left...the fans by and large want him gone and if hes worried about donovan being upset he can internally tell him what the deal was
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

smeags

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 19, 2010, 12:32:53 PM
the next time andy reid publically disagrees with banner inc will be the first

that would never happen.
If guns kill people then spoons made Rosie O'Donnel a fatass.

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it

PhillyPhreak54

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=A0PDlNIjIrJL2XwAlCpDubYF?slug=ms-trippintuesday033010

QuoteHowie Roseman has a problem. In his third month on the job, the young, ambitious general manager of the Philadelphia Eagles wants to make a name for himself by trading quarterback Donovan McNabb(notes), one of the most productive players in franchise history – and getting a sweet deal in return.

Now, having failed to command the copious bounty on which he has quietly insisted, Roseman is confronting a harsh reality: Some rival NFL executives view him as a shakedown artist and are prone to hitting "ignored" every time he rings their cell phones.

Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy about the new GM.

Drunkmasterflex

Does anyone really believe that Howie Roseman is orchestrating anything? Reid is the one running this show. 
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ice grillin you

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 31, 2010, 12:19:22 AM
Does anyone really believe that Howie Roseman is orchestrating anything? Reid is the one running this show. 

i 100% believe howie is running the show...with reid input of course...but howie obviously is super power hungry and has the backing of the most important guy in the company...reid didnt jump howie over licht...reid didnt jump howie over heckert...banner along with his fellow nerd orchestrated all that and are clearely in charge now...again i think reid has substantial input...i mean of course he does...but theres no question banner inc is running this shtein...in fact i wouldnt be surprised to see reid not finish his current contract out...especially if this draft isnt run the way he wants it to be
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

smeags

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 31, 2010, 12:19:22 AM
Does anyone really believe that Howie Roseman is orchestrating anything?

along with banner, no doubt at all. but not to worry, we're in good hands.

If guns kill people then spoons made Rosie O'Donnel a fatass.

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it

ice grillin you

lurie needs to grow a sack and take control of HIS team...it was bad enough when they promoted roseman now this is beyond embarrassment


QuotePerfect partners for McNabb trade
By Michael Silver, Yahoo! Sports

Howie Roseman has a problem. In his third month on the job, the young, ambitious general manager of the Philadelphia Eagles wants to make a name for himself by trading quarterback Donovan McNabb(notes), one of the most productive players in franchise history – and getting a sweet deal in return.

Now, having failed to command the copious bounty on which he has quietly insisted, Roseman is confronting a harsh reality: Some rival NFL executives view him as a shakedown artist and are prone to hitting "ignored" every time he rings their cell phones. And everyone in the world knows he's desperate to dump McNabb, who at this point would have a very hard time feeling the brotherly love if he were to return to Philly.

In other words: Al Davis, please pick up the white courtesy telephone.

I'm not saying the Oakland Raiders will yield to the Eagles' earlier demand for a first-round pick in exchange for McNabb – it's far more plausible that Oakland will give up its second-round selection, the 39th overall pick, a move that would allow Roseman to save face. I like to think Davis isn't foolish enough to part with star cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha(notes), who has been rumored to be included in trade talks between the teams.

Yet if there's a franchise out there that would reach to acquire a 33-year-old quarterback with one year (and $10 million) left on his contract – and who might cost another $20 million to franchise in 2011 if an extension couldn't be worked out – it's the one which recently earned the distinction of becoming the first NFL team to suffer seven consecutive seasons with 11 or more defeats.

If the Raiders, who deny being in talks with the Eagles, are smart (cue laugh track), they'll sit back and make Roseman squirm and wait for Philly's price to go down. While not as clumsy as the Broncos' Josh McDaniels and Brian Xanders were in their mishandling of the Jay Cutler(notes) situation a year ago, Roseman, coach Andy Reid and the Eagles' other powerbrokers have made the mistake of alienating their most visible player before successfully engineering his exit, allowing an awkward situation to fester.

I'll say this for McDaniels and Xanders: At least they salvaged the situation last April by landing a blockbuster package from the Bears in exchange for the then-25-year-old Cutler.

Similarly, Roseman is hoping for some silver-and-black salvation.

There's a lot at stake for the 34-year-old lawyer who joined the Eagles a decade ago as a salary-cap specialist. [/b] Though the decision to trade McNabb was hardly his unilateral call – Reid has long been a staunch advocate for Kevin Kolb and pushed for the franchise to select the former Houston quarterback in the second round of the 2007 draft; certainly, the coach is on board with the timing of the succession plan – Roseman is the guy trying to prove to the rest of the league that he belongs.

He's the newly called-up hotshot attempting to show that he can hit a big-league fastball, and he's looking for the pitch he can hit out of the park, rather than simply trying to make contact.

Roseman's rise reflects the changing power dynamic in the Eagles' organization. Five years ago, when Philly was coming off a Super Bowl season (and four consecutive NFC championship game appearances), Reid was among the NFL's most influential coaches. At the very least, he seemed to wield about the same degree of authority as team president Joe Banner, a longtime lieutenant of owner Jeffrey Lurie.

But the Eagles missed the playoffs in two of the next three seasons, and early in '07 Reid took a month-long leave of absence to tend to legal issues involving two of his sons, each of whom faced drug charges in separate cases. At that point, according to sources familiar with the team's front office, Banner became the unquestioned Big Cheese(steak), with Roseman, his protegé, getting increasingly involved in football-related matters.

Two offseasons ago Roseman, then the team's vice president of football administration, prevailed in a power struggle over player personnel VP Jason Licht, a close ally of general manager Tom Heckert. Licht was fired and succeeded by Roseman, a clear sign to Heckert and Reid that their influence had waned.

Reid helped Licht land with the Cardinals (he has since joined the Patriots as their director of pro personnel) and, this past January, smoothed Heckert's departure to Cleveland, where he became the Browns' GM under newly hired team president Mike Holmgren, a close friend of Reid's. Roseman took over for Heckert as Philly's GM, just in time to start what was then a silent auction for McNabb.

If Roseman had been less demanding, league sources say, he might have been able to swing a trade before the team's intentions became so conspicuous. Instead, Reid essentially announced to the football-watching universe at last week's league meetings that he would field trade offers for McNabb after having insisted for months that the veteran quarterback would return for the 2010 season. Awkward.

Roseman, who prides himself on his business acumen, seems to be on a mission to prove how shrewd he is to his peers. So far, it's not going over especially well. The Cardinals, sources say, backed out of early discussions for McNabb because Roseman's demands were so exorbitant. Another team's general manager said Roseman was similarly "unrealistic" when shopping disgruntled cornerback Sheldon Brown(notes) earlier this offseason.

"That's where I think ego gets in the way," the GM said. "Quite a few teams are quickly realizing that they don't want to do business with Philly. With McNabb, I think [Roseman's] trying to be too smart for his own good. Instead of trying to put a feather in his cap by walking way with a lopsided trade, which you rarely get in this league, he should try to get a legitimate deal done. In the long run, you don't want to be known as the guy who wants to bamboozle people. I think they're being unrealistic, and it's putting them in a funky spot."

At this point, the Eagles don't have a lot of stellar options. They can wait until just before the draft, when teams are the most motivated to swing a deal and try to get whatever they can for McNabb; they can do nothing and go into the season with three quarterbacks (McNabb, Kolb and Michael Vick(notes)) whose contracts expire after 2010 and try to come up with a creative way to keep the situation from imploding; or they can pray for Davis to come to the rescue in all his delusional splendor.

The latter scenario isn't all that far-fetched, as odious as McNabb might regard it to be. Last September, Davis sent a first-round pick to the Patriots for Richard Seymour, a soon-to-be-30-year-old defensive lineman with a history of knee problems and a season left on his contract. Seymour was so thrilled that he waited a week to report to Oakland. The Raiders retained his services for 2010 by applying the franchise tag.

Rather than trying to rebuild his flawed team through a series of sound, methodical moves, the 80-year-old Davis seems to be grasping for a quick fix that will allow him a redemptive taste of glory. Despite his deep investment, both financial and emotional, in quarterback JaMarcus Russell(notes), the No. 1 overall pick of the '07 draft, Davis might be tempted to entrust his anemic offense to McNabb, a five-time Pro Bowl selection.

If Davis gives up a premium pick – or Asomugha, a 28-year-old shutdown corner – to keep the dream alive, it will be a move that reeks of desperation. In that sense, he and Roseman are perfect trade partners.

As another Bay Area icon, Jerry Garcia, once sang one man gathers what another man spills.
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Seabiscuit36

#59
Napoleon complex

You really have to love that this guy has literally pissed off the entire NFL in just a few months, and is seen universally outside of Banner's eyes as an cutthroat ahole who doesnt care for anyone but himself.  Well done..Gold Standard
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