The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread

[Rome]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iyuAXFakTmhjdL3m5W61VjTjqQaA?docId=CNG.b551284ac6589b5a9b0bc67733452b5e.141

[ice grillin you]

http://americablog.com/2013/01/idaho-gun-nut-lawmakers-freak-out-over-gun-nut-in-the-state-capitol-even-though-guns-are-permitted.html

[Sgt PSN]

That's awesome.  I'm pretty much at the point where I'm going to jump sides when it comes to carrying permits.  I'm still in favor of people being able to own guns but I'm pretty much against anyone carrying them in public other than law enforcement type people. 

I'm also in favor of holding 2nd Amendment supporters to the standard set in the Bill of Rights. 

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

"well regulated" can basically be broken down into 3 things:

1.  A National Registration database that encompasses all gun sales and registrations (to include background checks, mental health, competancy, etc, etc....bascially all the other shtein that has been said in the no hippo thread)

2.  Required "license renewal."  You own a gun, you need to renew your license every X amount of years just like a driver's license except that you need to continuously demonstrate that you meet the minimum standards for ownership.  Fail any portion of that and your guns are taken until you can prove you are not a liability. 

3.  Higher standards of accountability when your gun is used in a crime or "accidental" injury/death of another person. 

"militia, being necessary to the security of a free state"

Owning enough weapons to arm a small army does not constitute a militia.  You want to own guns, then join an organized, well regulated militia.....aka....the National Guard, or any other state approved militia.  Any militia can receive a state sanctioned "charter" upon application so long as they meet certain criteria.  Personally owned weapons may be transported (safely and securely) to and from militia sanctioned events. 

But yeah, there's absolutely no reason at all for everyday people to be walking around the streets with guns, especially when most have little to no training.  There's a reason why cops and military spend hours and hours in classes that strictly revolve around Deadly Force and Escalation of Force.  So unless the general public is going to be required to receive the same amount of training as cops and soldiers, then they really don't have any business walking around with shotguns and 6 shooters. 

[ice grillin you]

You want to own guns, then join an organized, well regulated militia.....aka....the National Guard, or any other state approved militia.  Any militia can receive a state sanctioned "charter" upon application so long as they meet certain criteria.     

problem here is that when the 2nd amendment was written it was to protect ones state from a foreign govt....now its to protect ones self from their own government....

thus theres no way they are going to join a govt regulated militia because the govt is the reason they are stock piling military weapons in the first place

[ice grillin you]

be proud gun nuts...

http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/2013/01/22/mallick_why_newtown_victim_noah_pozner_had_an_open_coffin.html

[Seabiscuit36]

Wait. Bullets tear flesh and bone apart?  Now I'm anti guns

[ice grillin you]

Now I'm anti guns

and pro canned goods

[ice grillin you]

protecting the family:

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/10654311/

[PhillyPhreak54]

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20130211_Shots_fired_in_Wilmington_courthouse__injuries_reported.html

ho-hum...another public mass shooting.

[ice grillin you]

i think we need armed guards in courthouses.....oh wait

[Munson]

Not even 10 minutes from where I live. And apparently I'm hearing someone else brought a gun into the middle school I attended (and now sometimes sub at) today. Haven't been able to find anything confirming that though.

[Tomahawk]

You don't know what you're hearing?

[Munson]

You don't know what you're hearing!

[MDS]

oscar pistroius...the south afican one legged runner...shot his girlfriend dead because he mistook her for an intruder

GUNS!!

[hbionic]

An intruder. I buy that. Sure. Will the police?