The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread

[Munson]

I've had a lot of my more conservative friends use the old "if they didn't have a gun they'd find another way, they'd just use a knife! blah blah blah"....I started asking why, if those weapons like knives are just as deadly and effective as guns, can't people just defend themselves with those weapons instead of guns?

Not a lot of answers. Shocking.

[Sgt PSN]

It's true that he probably would have found another way, but a knife probably wouldn't be his weapon of choice since it's much harder to stab 25 people without intervention than it is just to shoot them.  Maybe he builds a bomb and blows up half the school and takes out 150 people instead.  But then they'd just argue that the gun saved 125 lives. 

[Munson]

Of course, but building a bomb requires a lot more work and time that could up the chance that somebody intervenes (plus, let's be honest, in today's world if he's buying supplies to build a bomb, the FBI and CIA probably are at his front door before he gets to do anything)

[ice grillin you]

It's true that he probably would have found another way, but a knife probably wouldn't be his weapon of choice since it's much harder to stab 25 people without intervention than it is just to shoot them.  Maybe he builds a bomb and blows up half the school and takes out 150 people instead.  But then they'd just argue that the gun saved 125 lives. 

remember dook in china stabbed over twenty people at an elementary school last year??......he killed zero people

anyone that uses the strawman argument about how these people would just use a different weapon is not worth even responding to

[Sgt PSN]

If he's ordering his materials online and paying with a credit card, perhaps.  But bomb making materials can be bought at Wal Mart and/or hardware stores and paid for in cash.  Nails, ball bearings, pvc pipe, duct tape and gunpowder aren't really eyebrow raisers......unless you're dumb enough to buy them all at the same time.

The only real threat to red flagging yourself is if you have no clue how to assemble it and start searching online.   

[Sgt PSN]

It's true that he probably would have found another way, but a knife probably wouldn't be his weapon of choice since it's much harder to stab 25 people without intervention than it is just to shoot them.  Maybe he builds a bomb and blows up half the school and takes out 150 people instead.  But then they'd just argue that the gun saved 125 lives. 

remember dook in china stabbed over twenty people at an elementary school last year??......he killed zero people

anyone that uses the strawman argument about how these people would just use a different weapon is not worth even responding to

I don't remember that story, but I think that's because you just made it up. 

[General_Failure]

It's true that he probably would have found another way, but a knife probably wouldn't be his weapon of choice since it's much harder to stab 25 people without intervention than it is just to shoot them.  Maybe he builds a bomb and blows up half the school and takes out 150 people instead.  But then they'd just argue that the gun saved 125 lives. 

remember dook in china stabbed over twenty people at an elementary school last year??......he killed zero people

anyone that uses the strawman argument about how these people would just use a different weapon is not worth even responding to

I don't remember that story, but I think that's because you just made it up. 

It turns out that story literally just happened. http://blogs.voanews.com/breaking-news/2012/12/14/man-stabs-22-children-at-chinese-elementary-school/

[ice grillin you]

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-04/29/content_9792007.htm

[Munson]

Despite the horror of what was happening around them and being locked in a small space, the teacher explained that she kept a positive face on for the sake of her young students.
"They asked, 'Can we go see if anyone is out there... I just want Christmas... I don't want to die, I just want to have Christmas," she said.

ugh

[phattymatty]

wow i was pretty unplugged today and out with friends so am just reading about this in the last half hour.

awful. it also seems to be the most annoying day in facebook history.

[phattymatty]

also not sure if chris hanson is the guy nbc should have working this story onsite.

[ice grillin you]

it also seems to be the most annoying day in facebook history.

holy shtein i cant even imagine

lemme guess anyone with a kid trying to gain attention by saying they can relate

same for anyone who is a teach or has a parent whos a teacher or who knows a teacher

its like a mini 9/11 with everyone trying to come up with ways to try no matter how tenuiously to connect themselves to the tradgedy and bring attention on themselves

[SD]

If he's ordering his materials online and paying with a credit card, perhaps.  But bomb making materials can be bought at Wal Mart and/or hardware stores and paid for in cash.  Nails, ball bearings, pvc pipe, duct tape and gunpowder aren't really eyebrow raisers......unless you're dumb enough to buy them all at the same time.

The only real threat to red flagging yourself is if you have no clue how to assemble it and start searching online.   

While they could make a bomb it usually takes planning and some know how. It's easier for a frustrated person to just grab a gun and start shooting. Otherwise you'd see more mass bombings than you would mass shootings.

[phattymatty]

i made bombs in middle school using the guts of model rocket engines, a $1 piece of copper tubing and a 4.5 volt battery. no one ever questioned us, of course that was over 20 years ago.

but once my parents saw one of these fargers explode and saw it was legit, they paid more attention to my hobbies.

[phattymatty]