The 'Mass-Shooting In The US' thread

[MDS]

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20 children were massacred in their classroom and nothing happened. nothing will ever happen. 

[Rome]

Pence literally scares the living shtein out of me.  I'm not kidding either.  I hear him speak and I get the creeping terrors.

[Diomedes]

When you hear Pence speak, you shtein yourself?  Is that what you're saying?

[PhillyPhreak54]

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20 children were massacred in their classroom and nothing happened. nothing will ever happen.

And some people deny it happened!

But yeah if that day/incident didn't change anything then we never will see it change

[PhillyPhreak54]

"The citizens of Florida will not tolerate senseless acts of evil," Scott said. "I just can't imagine how this ever happened in a state like ours"

Oh really? I mean just several months ago we had a mass shooting in your state, pal. Rather than offering up hollow thoughts and prayers how about fixing the farging problems?

The shooter checked his gun in his luggage - which consisted of just a gun - and decided to hop a flight. Curious as to how he ended up picking Florida as his final destination.

But the dude walked into the FBI offices some months ago and told them he was being forced to join ISIS amongst other wacked out things. And yet he was still allowed to possess a firearm. He served in Iraq and had issues after returning.

Mental health services in this country suck. More important to protect the gunzzzz!

[ice grillin you]

the prototype stand your ground state cant imagine terrible things happening there.....nice

[Rome]

Stand your ground isn't a bad theory, IGY.  For instance, if someone breaks into your house and your family is at risk, SYG allows you to kill the farg out of them without worrying about being thrown in jail for protecting your family.  It's actually a common sense measure to combat out of control violence in this society being perpetrated against innocent people.

Where it goes wrong is with the gun bullshtein.  SYG, like all other legal principles, has been manipulated and corrupted and turned into the heaping pile of shtein that it is now.  That's why you have lawyers getting scum like George Zimmerman off by using the statute as a defensive lynch pin.

We had a break-in several years ago.  icehole walked right into my garage and started rifling through shtein.  The only reason he's alive today is because I confronted him and informed him that I was armed and ready to farg up his life forever.   If he had taken a step towards me, he was dead as farg.  Thankfully for both of us he took off.  The cops arrested him a block from my house and when they searched his backpack, they found he was in possession of a Bowie knife.  It wasn't in plain sight and although he busted into my house and I felt he was a threat to my family, if I had shot his ass, a case could have been made against me for killing him if not for stand your ground. 

Stand your ground more often than not protects innocent victims, plain and simple.   Of course you'll disagree and that's fine.  I'm fine with that and I'm also fine knowing that the state prosecutor isn't coming after me for defending myself and my family.

As for Scott, he's a titanic piece of shtein.  I have nothing but contempt for him and his ilk.

[Rome]

When you hear Pence speak, you shtein yourself?  Is that what you're saying?

Well, I usually make it to the commode.  Usually.

[ice grillin you]

Stand your ground isn't a bad theory, IGY.  For instance, if someone breaks into your house and your family is at risk, SYG allows you to kill the farg out of them without worrying about being thrown in jail for protecting your family.  It's actually a common sense measure to combat out of control violence in this society being perpetrated against innocent people.

in every state if someone breaks into your house you can shoot someone to protect your family or yourself...stand your ground doesnt do shtein except let people get away with murder

[Rome]

That's just factually inaccurate.  Whatever though.

[Sgt PSN]

I think Havas is confusing SYG and Castle Doctrine, which I beleive every state does have in some form.  Also, about 1/3 of US States have Duty to Retreat laws, which require people to avoid defending themselves and to flee whenever possible.  23 states currently have a SYG law.

SYG laws aren't so much there to protect a person during a home invasion....that's Castle Doctrine.... but while out and about in the general community. Where those laws are really clouded, as in the Trayvon Martin case,  is that an unarmed individual was killed during an altercation and Zimmerman was armed. This contradicts Escalation of Force protocols, which call for a response of force equal to or slightly stronger than your attacker. Basically, it means that you don't respond to a fist with a gun.

[Rome]

Being afraid to defend yourself in your own home is disgusting.  farg that.  If someone enters my home with an intent to hurt me or my family or take my shtein, they're going out feet first.   I'm not saying that to be a macho icehole either.  I would never want that to happen, but if it does, I'm glad that I live in a place where a prosecutor isn't going to come after me for defending myself.

There's a lot of things wrong with this farged up state but SYG isn't one of them.  At least the principle isn't.  It could definitely use some tweaking, though.

[Diomedes]

Stand your ground is terrible policy. The idea that, on top of allowing just about anyone who isn't a felon to carry guns, we would permit their use if the shooter contends he was afraid of the scary person he shot in the parking lot, is madness.  The result of the policy is more shooting, more killing, more division, more resentment, more fear, and more hatred.  Without stand your ground, Zimmerman is in prison where he belongs.  We don't need laws that co-sign macho-fearful bullshtein like Zimmerman, or the disaster fantasy circlejerk of what you'd do to someone who threatened you.  With a policy like that, you've given people encouragement to engage in confrontations because they have a good chance of getting to off someone legally.   It's deplorable.

[ice grillin you]

^^^^
per usual on such matters dio is on point...and per usual he says it better than i ever could

[PhillyPhreak54]

Been awhile...can't wait to hear what president fargo has to say about this one

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