Donovan McNabb is a whiny, coddled Latino that eats Jewish babies.

Started by PhillyPhanInDC, September 19, 2007, 04:24:40 PM

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Magical_Retard

Quote from: reese125 on September 19, 2007, 08:02:22 PM
QuoteMcNabb has been asked to throw the ball 35-40 times a game to crap recievers.  He's been asked to run around behind the los for 14 seconds until a reciever can get open.  He's been asked to take off running and make plays and pick up first downs.  He's been asked/expected to win the Indy 500 while driving a Pinto.

No:
He's asked to run the west coast offense.
He's asked to release the ball before the WR's make their break
He's asked to check down when all else fails
He's supposed to throw with some accuracy and efficiency on a consistent basis after 20 years of playing football (not saying he hasn't alot of games, but its overwhelming how many times he overthrows and underthrows to wide open WR's). No other top QB has those kind of mechanics

He chooses to be the play maker on the majority of the 40 pass plays plays because of his scrambling ability inside and outside of the pocket. He holds on to the ball too long, and is forced to run around (which he could do very well), and is able to find an open receiver after 10 seconds of doing so. Are the receivers getting open open all the time? No. Have they been open on alot of the replays over the years? Absolutely

QuoteWith all this crap going on I had the feeling Monday night and I have it now that McNabb is thinking "for who for what" when he goes out there. His coaching staff can't call a game properly and have built a team around their franchise QB without a receiver that can even beat the jam. Why the heck should he kill himself really. He'll bide his time and go be successful somewhere else...

Dont believe it for a second. Now we blame the coaching staff for giving McNabb every opportunity to make a throw and make a play? McNabb had that feeling of "for who for what" after the 1st game of the season? Please

Hold yourself accountable or beat it







right so it had nothing to do with WRs liek trash who are 3rd string or Special teams players, or guys like Pinkston and Mitchell who are no in the league. hell that was a upgrade over what we had before in McNabbs first 2 seasons. had nothing to do with WRs who cant even get on the field on other teams and were force fed down our throats as "starting" calibur WRs?  so its all mcnabbs fault that he holds on to the ball while all world calibur WRs are open just waiting for him to realize he doesnt have to make a play with his legs? is that why seemingly each season he purposely runs less and less?

and magically when McNabb gets a good WR in Owens his accuracy improves, his timing improves, and he has to rely less on scrambling? mind boggling really.

you sound like andy reid. just cause hes been asked to run a west coast offense doesnt mean he had the tools to run the offense. and he will never be as accurate as he should be but we have seen when given a decent WR (Owens or even say Stallworth) he can def be one of the best QBs in the league.  your telling me couldnt give a draft pick for someone like moss? hell forget that what about stallworth? he seemed to be able to run pass defenders witch mcnabb finding him with ease.

mcnabb is playing bad. there is no denying it. but this interview has nothing to do with it. his age or his supposed inner motives to sabotage the team or the fan base has nothing to do with it. it has to do with the fact that hes coming back from a serious injury and he either shouldnt be starting or if he is....he should be helped by relying on the running game.
Marge: I have someone who can help you!
Homer: Is it BATMAN!!??
Marge: No hes a scientist
Homer: Batman is a scientist.
Marge: Its not BATMAN!

Magical_Retard

Quote from: SunMo on September 19, 2007, 09:24:17 PM
wow...psycho homer with 27 more paragraphs defending mcnabb....SHOCKING!


hey at least i learned to use the quote button properly.
Marge: I have someone who can help you!
Homer: Is it BATMAN!!??
Marge: No hes a scientist
Homer: Batman is a scientist.
Marge: Its not BATMAN!

SunMo

I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

rjs246

Jesus christ. McNabb is a good quarterback. He was given shtein for talent around him. He's also as softbatch and whiney and in need of coddling as any athlete I've ever seen.

There's you're all right. Now shut the farg up.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

reese125

Magical, you do realize that you write a Charlotte Web novel every time you respond to someone?

You trying to be Spadaro's intern?

SD_Eagle5

Quote from: FastFreddie on September 19, 2007, 08:47:45 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 19, 2007, 08:25:11 PM
I just took a huge dump

In this thread, wouldn't it have been more appropriate to make a racist comment like "dropping the Huxtables off at the lake" or something?  I'm just thinking on the fly here... Munson's the expert on racism and rjs is the expert on taking dumps.

I said the first thing that came to mind after the joy of taking a nice long shtein. I've heard an alternate version of "dropping the Huxtables off at the lake" which is "dropping the Cosby kids off at the pool", but you're correct in that either would have been more appropriate. 

Displaced

Quote from: reese125 on September 19, 2007, 04:42:13 PM
its pretty apparent all that talk about just trying to to whats best for the team, lead by example, and just wanting to play the game is all horseshtein. He needs to be in the spotlight, which is a crying shame for someone thats career is fading beyond belief.

Why the hell would he agree to do a report with Gumble knowing damn well it would come to bite him and the team in the ass....again? Sounds like he is trying to get traded to me.

Media circus...take 5

Maybe he actually is doing what's best for the team.  what is everybody talking about right now? 

The Eagles' 0-2 start, the way the recievers are not getting open, Reid&Co's lack of preparedness to go into the season with people on special teams that have never been in that critical position, or are they talking about McNabb and this "Black quarterback" thing?

This may just be horse hockey but it is another way to look at it.

I also find it amazing that people that have never experinced racism find it so easy to dismiss when someone articulates his or her feelings on the matter.

bowzer

Quote from: Displaced on September 19, 2007, 10:53:17 PM
Quote from: reese125 on September 19, 2007, 04:42:13 PM
its pretty apparent all that talk about just trying to to whats best for the team, lead by example, and just wanting to play the game is all horseshtein. He needs to be in the spotlight, which is a crying shame for someone thats career is fading beyond belief.

Why the hell would he agree to do a report with Gumble knowing damn well it would come to bite him and the team in the ass....again? Sounds like he is trying to get traded to me.

Media circus...take 5

Maybe he actually is doing what's best for the team.  what is everybody talking about right now? 

The Eagles' 0-2 start, the way the recievers are not getting open, Reid&Co's lack of preparedness to go into the season with people on special teams that have never been in that critical position, or are they talking about McNabb and this "Black quarterback" thing?

This may just be horse hockey but it is another way to look at it.

I also find it amazing that people that have never experinced racism find it so easy to dismiss when someone articulates his or her feelings on the matter.

Mcnabb did the interview a month ago.. do you think he was predicting a zesty start, and zesty play by himself???  McNabb always like to play up the whole "me against the world" card whether it be the incident when he got booed on draft day or the fact that he's a black quarterback, he has a messiah complex.  Maybe he can star in the next Mel Gibson movie. 

Munson

Didn't feel like reading all 5 pages of this....but...

If Peyton Manning or Carson Palmer or Tom Brady said "Black quarterbacks get more scrutiny then we do.", they wouldn't be getting attacked like this. And you know it's true.


Kind of rediculous.


That being said, I'm tired of the race card being played everywhere.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Munson

Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 19, 2007, 10:28:53 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 19, 2007, 08:47:45 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 19, 2007, 08:25:11 PM
I just took a huge dump

In this thread, wouldn't it have been more appropriate to make a racist comment like "dropping the Huxtables off at the lake" or something?  I'm just thinking on the fly here... Munson's the expert on racism and rjs is the expert on taking dumps.

I said the first thing that came to mind after the joy of taking a nice long shtein. I've heard an alternate version of "dropping the Huxtables off at the lake" which is "dropping the Cosby kids off at the pool", but you're correct in that either would have been more appropriate. 

Wrong. Black people are afraid of water and don't go swimming. God.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

PhillyPhreak54

Dawkins: "Its a fair assesment" when asked about McNabb's remarks...

I caught the PC highlights on ESPNradio and I thought he explained himself. But whatever.

PhillyPhreak54

http://yardbarker.com/users/DonovanMcNabb

No Apologies


"There has been a lot of talk about the interview I did on HBO's Real Sports.
I have no apologies. I was asked a variety of questions and I answered them.
The fact that the producers and publicists at HBO decided to focus on those
answers that related to race shows that it remains a hot topic in society
today.

Let me address some feedback...

First, the interview took place in August before the season started so for
those who think I "played the race card" because we are 0-2 are dead wrong.

I did not say that Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Carson Palmer are not
criticized when they don't play well. They have been criticized when they
throw interceptions, when the throw incompletions, and when their teams
don't win. They are criticized and so is every other quarterback for that
matter. And that type of criticism may, in fact, be warranted. But that's
not the type of criticism that we discussed.

Black quarterbacks have to deal with different things than white
quarterbacks. If you don't think that's true than you are naïve. Peyton, Tom
and Carson to name a few, have never been asked what it's like to be a white
quarterback. They probably have not been told that they should have
scrambled more. I bet Fran Tarkenton, Steve Young, Jake Plummer,
and Doug Flutie have never been told by a member of any racial consciousness organization
that they don't play the quarterback position white enough.

I would love to live in a world where race is not an issue. But it is. I did
not ask HBO to interview me but I did consent. I did not bring up the topic
of race but I didn't back down from it either. This interview was supposed
to be about how my career has been surrounded by controversy and how my
upbringing has shaped the way I have dealt with it. Unfortunately, the
interview itself has created yet another controversy.

All I did was answer the questions that were asked of me honestly and
truthfully. I had no agenda. The people of Philadelphia have criticized my
coach for not answering questions. Now I'm criticized for answering
questions. I understand if people have a different opinion or view point
than I do, I really do. I think if there is one thing I understand better
than most people - it's okay to be different."

ice grillin you

Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 19, 2007, 09:18:21 PM
how would he prove to you that he hates losing? how does anyone prove to anyone they hate losing? saying it in as many words? well if he hasnt said "i hate losing" has he said "i dont mind if i lose?".


how do you know that he hates losing?
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

shorebird

QuoteThis interview was supposed
to be about how my career has been surrounded by controversy and how my
upbringing has shaped the way I have dealt with it. Unfortunately, the
interview itself has created yet another controversy.[/b]

All that makes too much sense for all the McNabb haters.

I don't get were rjs, igy and the rest think McNabb is coddled. Were do you get this? If anything, he gets more negative press and fan reaction than any qb out there. Do you think Reid is putting McNabbs head on his shoulder and telling him....don't worry, it's all going to be alright? You guys think you know everything that goes on in the lockeroom and McNabbs life, but you don't, you can't, and it's pretty ridiculous to think you do.

And here we go with the haters falling back on the homer card again. When someone like MR makes sense, he's a homer. You play the homer card more than Jessie Jackson plays the race card.

McNabb is not the problem on this team. It's the friggen' coach. McNabb could get healthy and play well, but it won't make much difference because the coach can't gameplan or draft worth a crap.

ice grillin you

Quote from: shorebird on September 20, 2007, 06:26:30 AM
QuoteThis interview was supposed
to be about how my career has been surrounded by controversy and how my
upbringing has shaped the way I have dealt with it. Unfortunately, the
interview itself has created yet another controversy.[/b]

All that makes too much sense for all the McNabb haters.

I don't get were rjs, igy and the rest think McNabb is coddled. Were do you get this? If anything, he gets more negative press and fan reaction than any qb out there. Do you think Reid is putting McNabbs head on his shoulder and telling him....don't worry, it's all going to be alright? You guys think you know everything that goes on in the lockeroom and McNabbs life, but you don't, you can't, and it's pretty ridiculous to think you do.

And here we go with the haters falling back on the homer card again. When someone like MR makes sense, he's a homer. You play the homer card more than Jessie Jackson plays the race card.

McNabb is not the problem on this team. It's the friggen' coach. McNabb could get healthy and play well, but it won't make much difference because the coach can't gameplan or draft worth a crap.


reid straight sucks as a coach....where as mcnabb is a good qb but is bitchmade...these are both facts that have been and continue to be proven over and over again by the two

cant believe with a straight face you could say that mcnabb gets more criticism than any qb out there...its starting to turn somewhat but over his career hes has gotten infinitely more praise than criticism...in fact hes been overrated to a fairly high degree
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous