Donovan McNabb is a whiny, coddled Latino that eats Jewish babies.

[Sgt PSN]

Yes, Reid, THE GODDAMN COACH, should recognize this, sit him until he's healthy, and run the ball more.

Yes.

I'd agree but that would just start even more controversy/shtein and the media circus would spin WAY out of control.

Not if they're winning or at least being competetive. 

[SunMo]

I'd agree but that would just start even more controversy/shtein and the media circus would spin WAY out of control.

why would you even say that you agree with someone who agrees with your original point?

you really are a water headed douche

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Yeah, let's make keeping the media calm our top priority, shall we?

[Quasimoto]

Phreak I respect your opinion but I think you're incredibly off base on this.  McNabb has said himself he's not a vocal leader and that he leads by example.  So far, through two games, his examples have been absolute shtein.  So if he's leading by example then what is the team expected to look like?

Yes, he's played like shtein.

Yes, it's mostly because he's no where close to 100%.

Yes, Reid, THE GODDAMN COACH, should recognize this and run the ball more.

If he's not 100% why is he out there?

Is a 75 % Donnie better than a 100 % Kolb?   Who knows.  We won't know thanks to Andy.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Wrong. I could say that when comparing Donovan to the rest of the QBs in the NFL we see a guy each week who has a pretty damn good winning percentage, who makes plays and who is regarded by his peers and coaches in the NFL as one of the game's elite.

You just described Michael Vick. Is Michael Vick a good quarterback? Is his attitude, subjective as our opinions about it are, above reproach? Of course not. You guys just can't bring yourselves to criticize that which you've come to rely upon. And it's really very sad.

Vick is different and not nearly as good as McNabb, anyone with a set of eyes knows this.

Anyways, I have and will criticize McNabb. As I did earlier I will continue to lay this loss to Washington solely at his feet because he was garbage all night long.

I've never said he was perfect nor have I shied away from ripping him when he deserves it.

[Rome]

Umm... a 75% Donovan wasn't nearly good enough to beat the Packers & taterskins.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Phreak I respect your opinion but I think you're incredibly off base on this.  McNabb has said himself he's not a vocal leader and that he leads by example.  So far, through two games, his examples have been absolute shtein.  So if he's leading by example then what is the team expected to look like?

This team responded well to Garcia's rah-rah nature and have looked complacent by all accounts when Donnie is out there.  Why is that? 

IMO, he isn't a leader.  He's another player on the team and he's looking for someone else to step up.  I think it's sad because if Don could get over his thin skin and nice personality he could be among the great of the greats.  He may be the greatest Eagle QB but that doesn't mean anything as far as Super Bowls and HOF go.

His time here is done.  He, Andy, you and I can see the writing on the wall.  He just can't handle it here.  Is it right?  I don't know.  But is it coming?  Yes, it is.

I hear you and I respect what you say, but I disagree. First of all because I think this leader thing is totally overblown. I am not saying leadership is not needed, because it is. But I would love to have that word stricken from the English language when it comes to talking about McNabb. Partly because it's used so much on the radio I've come to despise any leadership discussions about the quarterback.

I think the team responded last year because of several reasons, not just Garcia's rah-rahness. One reason was the run, another reason was the run allowed the OL to maul people and wear defenses down, another reason was the playcalling was excellent down the stretch. Garcia gets entirely too much credit for that stretch last year. He played good, no doubt. But let's not forget that he was off a few times and the playcalling and running the ball bailed him out.

And I think he can handle it here and has done so. What I think is that people here don't like him and make it seem like he can't handle it because we hear the "fortitude + towel over head + puking" stuff.

But yeah, its coming to an end and I, to be honest, don't agree with it. There is no reason whatsoever he should be even considered to be moved on out of here.

[Quasimoto]

Phreak I respect your opinion but I think you're incredibly off base on this.  McNabb has said himself he's not a vocal leader and that he leads by example.  So far, through two games, his examples have been absolute shtein.  So if he's leading by example then what is the team expected to look like?

This team responded well to Garcia's rah-rah nature and have looked complacent by all accounts when Donnie is out there.  Why is that? 

IMO, he isn't a leader.  He's another player on the team and he's looking for someone else to step up.  I think it's sad because if Don could get over his thin skin and nice personality he could be among the great of the greats.  He may be the greatest Eagle QB but that doesn't mean anything as far as Super Bowls and HOF go.

His time here is done.  He, Andy, you and I can see the writing on the wall.  He just can't handle it here.  Is it right?  I don't know.  But is it coming?  Yes, it is.

I hear you and I respect what you say, but I disagree. First of all because I think this leader thing is totally overblown. I am not saying leadership is not needed, because it is. But I would love to have that word stricken from the English language when it comes to talking about McNabb. Partly because it's used so much on the radio I've come to despise any leadership discussions about the quarterback.

I think the team responded last year because of several reasons, not just Garcia's rah-rahness. One reason was the run, another reason was the run allowed the OL to maul people and wear defenses down, another reason was the playcalling was excellent down the stretch. Garcia gets entirely too much credit for that stretch last year. He played good, no doubt. But let's not forget that he was off a few times and the playcalling and running the ball bailed him out.

And I think he can handle it here and has done so. What I think is that people here don't like him and make it seem like he can't handle it because we hear the "fortitude + towel over head + puking" stuff.

But yeah, its coming to an end and I, to be honest, don't agree with it. There is no reason whatsoever he should be even considered to be moved on out of here.

I agree in a sense that the leadership thing is overblown in some cases.  But this team looks so uninspired right now and is practically BEGGING for someone to step up.  I don't have a problem with someone not being vocal but if you're going to be that way you need to show up on the field.  McNabb hasn't.  Now this can be argued this is the front office's fault which in large part it probably is.  If he's not 100 percent he shouldn't be on the field right now.

Not to mention I really think the players on the team are getting frustrated with it all.  Did you hear Reggie after the taterskins game?  He was upset that people indicated he wasn't open.  He said he was and insinuated anyone who says otherwise is lying.  IMO that is an indirect shot at McNabb.

And I completely agree about the run game.  Why can't we do that with McNabb?  I'm not trying to get all over McNabb's back here.  The run game would be very useful especially if he's not 100 percent.  There is so much blame to go around I'm pretty much losing track.

It's coming to an end in the worst way, too.  I really wanted to win a Super Bowl under McNabb.  He has all the tools but for whatever reason they could never get it done.  Whether it's right or not I guess we'll find out when/if he leaves Philadelphia and goes to another team. 

[SunMo]

i don't care what people from Houston say

[rjs246]

Andy Reid and his refusal to run the ball is a much bigger problem than McNabb. But McNabb and Andy Reid together is a big problem and if Reid isn't going to go, then McNabb has to.

[Sgt PSN]

i don't care what people from Houston say

Or Souderton

[Quasimoto]

Andy Reid and his refusal to run the ball is a much bigger problem than McNabb. But McNabb and Andy Reid together is a big problem and if Reid isn't going to go, then McNabb has to.

This is so true.  It's like when McNabb steps on the field Andy gets a huge boner for the pass game.  He's going to get McNabb hurt again this season if he keeps the pace up that he's at now.

[SunMo]

i don't care what people from Houston say

Or Souderton

or bead necklace wearing Romes

[Sgt PSN]

Especially them

[PhillyPhreak54]

i don't care what people from Houston say

Me either. farg 'em!