Donovan McNabb is a whiny, coddled Latino that eats Jewish babies.

Started by PhillyPhanInDC, September 19, 2007, 04:24:40 PM

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rjs246

We care because it clearly effects his state of mind. He can't even make himself stop talking about a draft that happened almost a decade ago. He whines about being treated differently. Give me a break, the dude is farging babysoft and needs to go away.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

phattymatty

i didn't bother reading it.  he may well be right, but gregg doyel is an enormous douche.

Seabiscuit36

"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

SunMo

from PFT:

QuotePOSTED 3:49 p.m. EDT; UPDATED 4:56 p.m. EDT, September 19, 2007

McNABB FACES THE MUSIC OVER HIS HBO REMARKS

At his weekly press conference, Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb got an earful of questions from members of the media who wanted him to explain his now-infamous remarks from HBO's Real Sports regarding McNabb's belief that the media heaps more criticism upon black quarterbacks than on white quarterbacks.

Here's how it's being described on the Eagles' web site, by Justin Kunkel: "Nearly all of McNabb's 11-minute press conference was a verbal volley between the quarterback and members of the media who were trying to pin down exactly what McNabb meant in the interview. He said at one point that he feels he was asked questions that would not be asked of white quarterbacks in the same situation, a statement that seemed to bother many members of the media in attendance."

Kunkel also writes that "McNabb would not provide specifics as to what questions black quarterbacks are asked that white quarterbacks are not."

Yeah. Because he can't.

And it seems that the team is stepping away from McNabb on this one. Case in point -- the Eagles' P.R. staff included every question, and every answer from McNabb, in an e-mail sent out to members of the media.

All 19 questions and answers can be read right here.

Our guess? McNabb's days in Philly are numbered. We used to think he'd be gone after the 2007 season; we now think there's an outside chance that he gets traded within the next month.
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rjs246

Oh please. they won't be trading him mid-season. Don't these clowns actually cover the NFL?
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

phattymatty


Magical_Retard

Quote from: rjs246 on September 19, 2007, 05:12:47 PM
We care because it clearly effects his state of mind. He can't even make himself stop talking about a draft that happened almost a decade ago. He whines about being treated differently. Give me a break, the dude is farging babysoft and needs to go away.

wait so when he drops back to pass instead of thinking about his injury, the pass rush, or analyzing which WR is open or not, he is thinking about him being black?


again this is another stupid story being overblown. how does this story affect the 0-2 start? more so than the playcalling and the lack of playmakers? this is why the team is 0-2. and i love how they include the "the team is distancing themselves from him"....right because if you asked any player on the team or any BLACK QB in the league they would tell you that there is more pressure on a black qb. its not like mcnabb is the first one to say it or invent it. it exists. when your a minority in a high profile position like a QB it exists. whether its from the media or the "white" masses or from within or the black community itself, mcnabb is right. to what extent i dont know. im not in his position to judge but this interview was done about a month ago before the season started so to claim his head is not in the game and this is what he is thinking about is rediculous.

here is a much better article about the situation:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7241878?MSNHPHMA

QuoteJason Whitlock

   


For reasons far more nuanced than he offered Tuesday night on HBO, Donovan McNabb is right, black NFL quarterbacks face more pressure, scrutiny and criticism than their white counterparts.

The assertion is neither debatable nor controversial. In fact, when James Brown's sit-down interview with the star quarterback was over, I wondered how McNabb's comments had caused much of a stir.

He'd simply stated the obvious in the most inoffensive way possible. McNabb's comments were not angry, defiant or whiny. They were matter of fact.

They were also incomplete and, therefore, out of context.

I believe McNabb, more than any black quarterback who has played the game, understands all of the obstacles facing a black "franchise" quarterback. And he knows that it would be highly dangerous to put all of the issues on the table.

   


We can't handle the truth. The media aren't equipped to tell it. And he justifiably fears that his black teammates aren't ready to digest it.

You see, many of the roadblocks standing before a black QB are placed there by other African-Americans.

Stick with me, let me explain. There is no doubt that racism has been a factor in the level and the intensity of criticism thrown at McNabb since the day the Eagles drafted him.


More important and damaging, racism -- unintentional and intentional -- has contributed to an atmosphere where it is difficult for the average fan or member of the media to recognize a blatantly obvious truth about McNabb's career:

Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie and head coach Andy Reid have failed to properly support McNabb. The one year they provided McNabb with a legitimate No. 1 receiver (Terrell Owens), he threw 31 TDs and just nine interceptions and led the Eagles to within a field goal of winning Super Bowl XXXIX.

Lurie got away with being embarrassingly cheap because Donovan's young legs compensated for the lack of playmakers in the passing game and a mediocre offensive line.

McNabb — injured three of the last five years — has been used up and the Eagles are preparing to spit him out (drafting Kevin Kolb) primarily because the Eagles did not give him the kind of support Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer and to a lesser degree Tom Brady received in Indianapolis, Cincinnati and New England, respectively.

McNabb has their talent, their work ethic and their intellect for the game. He's never received their support (Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Chad Johnson, T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Ben Watson, Randy Moss, Corey Dillon, Deion Branch).

And the lack of support isn't just from ownership, fans, media and Rush Limbaugh. As best exemplified during the Owens fiasco, McNabb was sold out by many of his black teammates. This is the uncomfortable truth that we want to ignore. It's a truth that McNabb will probably only address in retirement.

Over the last 15 years, the influx of money and the implementation of the salary cap have dramatically changed the politics of the NFL. Franchise quarterbacks, the guys with the $100 million contracts, are given so much money in guaranteed bonuses that the position is now a management job.

For instance, because of his contract and importance to the organization, Manning is basically in partnership with owner Jim Irsay, head coach Tony Dungy and offensive coordinator Tom Moore.

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A typical NFL locker room is 70 percent black. It is my belief that black players are more accepting of a white player being in a management position than a black player. The Owens-McNabb feud was clearly over money and fueled by jealou$y.

Owens, an idiot cancer, felt like McNabb should've pressured ownership to rework Owens' contract. Owens labeled McNabb a sellout and the message gained traction in a Philly locker room filled with players disgruntled about Lurie's frugality and envious of McNabb's contract.

Robert Kraft and the New England Patriots are known as cheap and have jettisoned several high-profile, productive black players (Ty Law, Lawyer Milloy, Deion Branch). Has anyone labeled Tom Brady a sellout?

Donovan McNabb has been attacked from every racial angle. A leader of the Philadelphia NAACP ripped McNabb for becoming more of a pocket passer. He's criticized by some for being too close to his parents. His leadership ability has been questioned because he didn't respond forcefully enough to TO's stupidity.

Wow. This dude is as good as it gets. He comes from a great home, wonderful, dignified parents. He's carried himself with class through a ton of adversity. He's a winner. He's exactly what we claim we want pro athletes to be.
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But somehow that's not good enough. And you think there's not more criticism heaped on black quarterbacks?


i love how everyone who has not been in his position can not only automatically claim there is not any added pressure but that also mcnabb because of these comments is to blame for the 0-2 start, not wanting to win, and all of a sudden these comments signaling the end of mcnabb. if anything his play will signal the end and especially if he continues to stay in this funk and if reid continues to pass over running the ball.

in a league where they have a rule to make sure minority coaches actually get a interview ppl believe there is no added pressure for a minority QB in the spotlight position? i love how the philly media gets its panties in a bunch when his comments are directed at general for all black QBs and not just him and his situation(s).  and im pretty sure that includes the pressure from within to perform well to prove that black QBs can succeed. i guess last season when 2 black coaches made it to the superbowl....it was just dungy and smith being whiny lil bitches and weak minded when they actually acknowledged the significance of it. its not like mcnabb is pointing his finger any particular fan or media outlet but hes talking in general how there is added pressure and criticism.

and i love the "omg i used to be a fan of his till he said this". everything he says or doesnt say seems to matter more to ppl than whats actually on the field. if mcnabb can get back into the form he started last season with we would be 2-0 and possible have a good season. but no its not his injury thats holding us back...its his views on pressure playing the biggest position in the biggest sport and in one of the most obsessed cities. and how is this the same as rush? rush actually represents a large portion of this country and how they think and how they view the world. more than that rush has the power to shape the opinion of ppl. how is this similar to a NCAAP president actually questioning the "blackness" of mcnabb.

i think whitlock hits on the head with the pressure from within the black community as well.

all in all i wish he didnt do this interview but its not really earth shattering what he says and nor is it the reason for the eagles being a crappy team right now. really reaching if ppl think this is why the team is 0-2.
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RezRob

I read the Q&A. I didn't have a problem with his explanations. People jump on this...but the context in which it was said, or how it came up in conversation matters too. I don't think he went to the interview to stir shtein up. I think we would be better off with a reclusive Yeti at QB, or maybe like the Sosa no habla thing. We can send the Badassador along to interviews. If shtein goes south he just wrecks everything.
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Magical_Retard


QuoteAnd it seems that the team is stepping away from McNabb on this one. Case in point -- the Eagles' P.R. staff included every question, and every answer from McNabb, in an e-mail sent out to members of the media.





how is this the team distancing themselves from mcnabb? do they mean the FO, the owner, or the players. im pretty sure reid, lurie, and the rest of the team knew of this interview from when it was done about a month ago.
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Marge: No hes a scientist
Homer: Batman is a scientist.
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PhillyGirl

I just watched what happened at the PC.

He was being bombarded with 2000 questions about the interview and he kept saying he wouldn't answer anymore about it. When the kept going on, he got a big goofball smile and waved bye. He didn't storm out or anything. He was laughing when he got up and left.
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Magical_Retard

Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 19, 2007, 05:54:22 PM
I just watched what happened at the PC.

He was being bombarded with 2000 questions about the interview and he kept saying he wouldn't answer anymore about it. When the kept going on, he got a big goofball smile and waved bye. He didn't storm out or anything. He was laughing when he got up and left.

in fact i read he said he would take a few more questions...did and then left. but of course he prolly pounded the table, cried about being black and being hated, and now the team is thinking of trading him in 3 days. yup must be.
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SunMo

Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 19, 2007, 06:02:12 PM

in fact i read he said he would take a few more questions...did and then left. but of course he prolly pounded the table, cried about being black and being hated, and now the team is thinking of trading him in 3 days. yup must be.

you take embarrassing homer to a new level
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Phanatic

With all this crap going on I had the feeling Monday night and I have it now that McNabb is thinking "for who for what" when he goes out there. His coaching staff can't call a game properly and have built a team around their franchise QB without a receiver that can even beat the jam. Why the heck should he kill himself really. He'll bide his time and go be successful somewhere else...


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Magical_Retard

Quote from: SunMo on September 19, 2007, 06:13:46 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 19, 2007, 06:02:12 PM

in fact i read he said he would take a few more questions...did and then left. but of course he prolly pounded the table, cried about being black and being hated, and now the team is thinking of trading him in 3 days. yup must be.

you take embarrassing homer to a new level

im reacting to that rumor of him being traded in 3 days. and i just saw the clip on espn...if i had read the account from these articles alone i would have assumed a "storm out"....where as the video showed mcnabb was actually adamant about his statements, standing behind them, and jokingly said "bye" and left when he had enough.

my reaction is not any worse than the reaction of those who take the smallest thing and blow it out of proportion. and wow im a homer now....is that like a taboo word that is supposed to scare ppl? i dont care if im a homer or whatever....oh no some ppl think im a homer so i must not point out how stupid i find all of this. i guess im a homer if you read this post alone and ignore everything else from this season or last season or since i posted here.
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Magical_Retard

Quote from: Phanatic on September 19, 2007, 06:22:59 PM
With all this crap going on I had the feeling Monday night and I have it now that McNabb is thinking "for who for what" when he goes out there. His coaching staff can't call a game properly and have built a team around their franchise QB without a receiver that can even beat the jam. Why the heck should he kill himself really. He'll bide his time and go be successful somewhere else...




hes dealt with playing with horrible WRs before and he still won. the real issue here is that reid is the moron who does not realize that mcnabb does not have his feet set when hes throwing and its because hes still recovering and obviously thinking about his injury. it just makes the run pass ratio that much more absurd. there is a good chance we are 2-0 if reid stuck to westbrook and actually used hunt for the purpose he was drafted.
Marge: I have someone who can help you!
Homer: Is it BATMAN!!??
Marge: No hes a scientist
Homer: Batman is a scientist.
Marge: Its not BATMAN!