I hate my job!

[rjs246]

With respect,
Dating Union.

[Geowhizzer]

Just to let you all know, I go back to work on August 11. 

[BigEd76]

start getting CASH MONEY right after that!

Better hurry up.  They only pay at the END of each month.

As soon as we revise your aplication...

ah, so they're going to change the mailing address anyway.  No checks for us. 

[Eagles_Legendz]

Alright, so I just graduated from Wake a few months ago and I'm self-employed as a sales rep for manufacturing and electronic companies--my mother has been running the company for the past 25 years.  The flexibility is good and the pay is borderline incredible for my age (will be 6 figures shortly), but the problem is I'm not sure I like it (and my mother is my boss.....).  Conversely, I actually have a degree in education/history, and spent the last 6 months student teaching in a HS, something that I actually enjoy.  I don't know whether this is more of a question or a rant, but I'm sort of torn here between putting up with this because of its benefits, or doing something I like where I make substantially less money. 

[PhillyPhreak54]

Tough call...

If possible, perhaps you can stick it out for a year doing this all the while saving money up? That way you'll have a nice chunk to fall back on while you do the teaching thing.

Do not underestimate the value of being in a job you like. When waking up for work becomes a grind and you look for ways to avoid it...you've got to move on and find something you love to do.

[Geowhizzer]

Teaching history?  Nothing better. 

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Alright, so I just graduated from Wake a few months ago and I'm self-employed as a sales rep for manufacturing and electronic companies--my mother has been running the company for the past 25 years.  The flexibility is good and the pay is borderline incredible for my age (will be 6 figures shortly), but the problem is I'm not sure I like it (and my mother is my boss.....).  Conversely, I actually have a degree in education/history, and spent the last 6 months student teaching in a HS, something that I actually enjoy.  I don't know whether this is more of a question or a rant, but I'm sort of torn here between putting up with this because of its benefits, or doing something I like where I make substantially less money. 

Working for parents or in-laws FTL.

Get out.  Do something else.

[Seabiscuit36]

I'll trade jobs with you E_L

[Eagles_Legendz]

Tough call...

If possible, perhaps you can stick it out for a year doing this all the while saving money up? That way you'll have a nice chunk to fall back on while you do the teaching thing.

Do not underestimate the value of being in a job you like. When waking up for work becomes a grind and you look for ways to avoid it...you've got to move on and find something you love to do.

That's the current plan right now.  I think I'm going to be doing this for the next year and seeing if it grows on me at all, while hopefully saving up some money to fall back on.  Potentially passing on such a substantial salary though -- not easy to do.  The good news is within a year or two my mother plans on retiring, so I would literally be running it myself then.

[Father Demon]

Don't forget the experience you get from working there a year to two.  Then, if you like sales but not the atmosphere ("Billy.. Did you make that sale? Did you clean your room?"), you can take the experience and the connections you will make (never ever underestimate the value of connections), and find a job that is something more in line with what you can get excited about.  Make some bank, bank some bank, and then keep your experience and find a job elsewhere - My two cents.

Also - while teaching is noble and honor worthy, it pays for shtein, you put up with smart-mouth kids, and you'll have bureaucracy out the ass.  Plus, you'll be lumped in with people like Geo {Shiver}.

[Geowhizzer]

At least I have a job, slacker! 

[Father Demon]

I'm doing just fine sucking off the teat of Show-Me State's Free Money program!

[rjs246]

This motherfarger sitting next to me smells so farging bad today I want to hurl myself out of a window.

[shorebird]

Better yet, hurl him out the window.

[Father Demon]

I had the most unprofessional and bizarre interview ever last week.  I had already interviewed with two of my peers-to-be if I was hired, and an RVP that used to oversee the group I was interviewing to join.  My friend is a director there, but he told me I was up against a guy who was friends with all three people currently in the group (the two peers and the hiring manager).  I knew it was long odds, but what the hell.

After doing very well on the first two interviews (my friend got the feedback), I had to interview with the hiring manager.  He really threw me with a couple of questions.  Not technical or experience questions, but strange questions.  Questions that threw me (I'm paraphrasing):
1) I need to make sure you'll fit in here. My group is very close, and we tend to go way past HR guidelines a lot of times.  We're not sleeping together or anything like that, but pretty much nothing is out of the question. We don't really follow the HR rules.  How do you feel about that?
- How the hell do I answer that question? Something like "Not sleeping together?? Well, then forget this job!!" or maybe "I love to skirt HR rules. You can expect a big giant lawsuit from SOMEBODY if I'm working there!!" or maybe "That won't fly. And if that continues if I'm there, I'll be filing complaints left and right!!"

2) I see you were military for 10 years. We're not a real militant organization, and not real structured. Someone with that background may not like how we operate. When it comes to rules and regulations, certain ones can be broken. Does this sound like you would fit in?"
- Again, a double edged sword for an answer.  What the hell?

3) How many accounts do you think you can effectively manage?
- My answer was "Well, that's a tricky question since I don't the details about how an account is managed, what the time constraints are, the level of engagement with a vendor based on their importance, and other important pieces of information. I will tell you that as a sales engineer, I was involved in the management and care-and-feeding of anywhere from 5 at a time to upwards of 20.:
-- His follow up question: "That's not what I meant. I meant, what is a realistic number of accounts you should be able to manage at one time?  I am looking for a specific number, and you gave me a range. But that's OK, I think your answer tells me enough."
- WTF???

I then ask if a face-to-face interview was still on the table, as discussed with the RVP.  His answer was that he would only bring someone down for F2F interviews if he was going to offer him the position, and FOR RIGHT NOW don't save any time on your calendar for a trip on my account".  The way he said it, I couldn't tell if he meant a) you're not getting the job, or b) if I make a decision to hire you, I'll let you know then.

He also told me that I should expect to hear from him in about two weeks, no matter what his decision.  My feeling was that he had already decided to make an offer to the friend of the group, and needed another interview to complete his due diligence with his bosses.  If for some reason the other guy turned down the offer, I was Plan B.  I heard from my buddy today that they are indeed offering the position to the other guy, just as I suspected.  The feedback he got from the hiring manager was that I was "an awesome candidate, but the timing was all wrong" - meaning the timing of his friend wanting a new job, too.

To make matters worse, my friend took my feedback of the interview to the CEO (it's a company about 50 people big) and asked if this is the type of questions they should be asking on an interview.  So now, the manager is going to call me this week for being unprofessional.  Yeah, this isn't awkward.