U.S. Iraq war casualties reach new milestone

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Phanatic

Not for nothing but times change and policies that made sense at one time might not make sense years later. Someone can be just as much at fault for leaving a bad policy in place as creating it.

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Wingspan

Quote from: Phanatic on July 16, 2007, 12:59:03 AM
Not for nothing but times change and policies that made sense at one time might not make sense years later. Someone can be just as much at fault for leaving a bad policy in place as creating it.



No one, especially a politician, is allowed to ever re-think something, and god-forbid change their mind. Never!

You don't want to be refered to a flip-flopper, it's a fate worse than burning in hell.
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Phanatic

My fault.

Carry on over the cliff then...
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PoopyfaceMcGee

For all I know, this email came out of the White House... but it still is a counter-viewpoint we rarely hear.

QuoteSubject:
  From Lt. Col. Joe Repya, U.S. Army


 


 


 



U.S. GOING DOWN THE DRAIN


Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:37:14 EDT

"I'm Tired"

Two  weeks ago, as I was starting my sixth  month of duty in Iraq  , I was forced to return
to the USA  for surgery for an injury I sustained prior to my deployment.
With  luck, I'll return to Iraq  to finish my tour.

I left Baghdad  and a war that has every indication that we are winning, to return to  a demoralized country
much like the one I returned to in 1971 after my tour in Vietnam.
Maybe  it's because I'll turn  60 years old  in just four months,  but I'm tired.

I'm tired of spineless  politicians, both Democrat and Republican who lack the  courage, fortitude,
and character to see these difficult tasks through.
I'm tired of the hypocrisy of politicians  who want to  rewrite history when the going  gets tough.

I'm tired of the disingenuous clamor  from those that claim they 'Support the Troops' by wanting  them
to 'Cut and Run' before victory  is achieved.

I'm tired of a mainstream media  that can only focus on car bombs and casualty  reports because they are too
afraid to leave the safety  of their hotels to report on the courage and success our brave men and women are
having  on the battlefield.

I'm tired that so many Americans  think you can rebuild a dictatorship into a democracy  overnight.

I'm tired that so many ignore the bravery  of the Iraqi people to go to the voting booth,
and freely elect  a  Constitution and soon  a permanent Parliament.

I'm tired of the so called  'Elite Left' that prolongs this war by giving aid and comfort to  our enemy,
just as they did during the Vietnam  War.

I'm tired of antiwar protesters showing up  at the funerals of our fallen soldiers.
A family  who's loved ones gave their life in a just and noble cause, only to be cruelly tormented on the funeral
day by cowardly protesters is beyond shameful.

I'm tired that my generation, the Baby  Boom -- Vietnam generation, who have such a weak backbone that
they can't stomach seeing the difficult tasks through to  victory.

I'm tired that some are more concerned  about the treatment of captives than they are the slaughter,
and beheading of our citizens  and allies.

I'm tired that when we find mass graves  it is seldom reported by the press, but mistreat a prisoner,
and  it is front page news.

Mostly, I'm tired that the people of this great nation didn't learn from history that there is no substitute
for  Victory.

Sincerely,
Joe  Repya,
Lieutenant Colonel,  U. S.  Army
101st  Airborne Division

Cerevant

I call bullshtein.  If you can find one solid definition of "victory" for this situation, there might be some credibility.  This is what Iraq and Vietnam have in common - there is no objective, no victory condition, no end in sight.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

Diomedes

We so rarely hear the pro war viewpoint, it's like a breath of fresh air.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Butchers Bill

Probably a bs email but the message has a valid point.  There are a lot of good things happening in Iraq, but thats not news that sells.  Chaos, mayhem, violence, and missing pretty white girls are what sell news these days.
I believe I've passed the age of consciousness and righteous rage
I found that just surviving was a noble fight.
I once believed in causes too,
I had my pointless point of view,
And life went on no matter who was wrong or right.

Diomedes

Quote from: Butchers Bill on July 17, 2007, 05:03:31 PMThere are a lot of good things happening in Iraq...

Whatever you're smoking, pass it this way hippy.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

MURP


Drunkmasterflex

Quote from: Diomedes on July 17, 2007, 06:08:31 PM
Quote from: Butchers Bill on July 17, 2007, 05:03:31 PMThere are a lot of good things happening in Iraq...

Whatever you're smoking, pass it this way hippy.

While I have never been there, most soldiers that I talk to that have been say the same thing.  And a good bit of them don't want us to be there either.  As far as the war goes I don't even care anymore.  It is my job, so I try not to pay attention much to the politics, reason being both sides are uncompromising idiots. 

On a positive note I was at the National Training Center in California for the last month and got to see at least one positive from the war...hot ass Iraqi women.  I have to say I now understand why their men keep them under wraps.
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ice grillin you

its not a war and it never was...we invaded another country
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Rome

Quote from: Butchers Bill on July 17, 2007, 05:03:31 PM
There are a lot of good things happening in Iraq, but thats not news that sells.

Sure there is.  It's like Bermuda, actually.

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rjs246

Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Diomedes

3,653 heroes and counting

what are the Vegas odds on when they reach 4,000?
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger