U.S. Iraq war casualties reach new milestone

[Geowhizzer]

In more important news:

Sen. Lugar says U.S. should downsize the military's role in Iraq.

[ice grillin you]

i dont understand the downsizing crowd

tho i dont agree with them i can at least understand the mccain philosophy of putting massive amounts of additional troops

to me its either full and complete pull out or put a million guys over there and truly take over the country

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I agree completely.  I guess it's going to be one of those special days on .

[Rome]

In for a penny in for a pound.

If you try and do these things half-assed they never work.  They rarely work when you put all your efforts into them but doing it they way Bush Corp. has done over the past 4 years is an absurd recipe for failure. 

[ice grillin you]

downsizing is the political answer...its not cut and running and its not supporting the war either....its a politician that cares more about his reelection than he does the troops

i think mccain is nuts but at least hes looking out for our people over there

[Rome]

Well, since Bush has no chance (hopefully  ) of ever being re-elected, I'd say it's high time he did what's right and bring all of the troops home.   Those "poor Iraqi's" have been slaughtering each other for centuries.  It was unmitigated hubris of our leaders to expect to change that in any way, shape or form.

[Geowhizzer]

downsizing is the political answer...its not cut and running and its not supporting the war either....its a politician that cares more about his reelection than he does the troops

i think mccain is nuts but at least hes looking out for our people over there

Agreed.  Every politician's main concern isn't public service.  It's getting elected or re-elected.

[Rome]

LOL - The "Hero" of 9/11 is blasting Bill Clinton now.

I wondered how long it would take for one of those lemons to blame Bubba for 9/11.  Now I know.

[Phanatic]

Rudy's trying to appeal to the base I guess. Clinton is a favorite stereotypical GOP punching bag. I'm tired of it though. You could probably look trough US policy in the region and blame every administration for the "problems" in the middle east over the last 50 years at least.

[Rome]

What he's doing is he's smearing Hillary through her husband.  Weak sauce, I agree, but totally in keeping with the GOP's never-ending campaign of distort, frighten & blame aimed at the Democrats specifically the Clintons.

[Geowhizzer]

Rudy's trying to appeal to the base I guess. Clinton is a favorite stereotypical GOP punching bag. I'm tired of it though. You could probably look trough US policy in the region and blame every administration for the "problems" in the middle east over the last 50 years at least.

Bingo.  You really can't blame any one administration.  There were signs that were missed from every president, probably since at least Eisenhower.

What he's doing is he's smearing Hillary through her husband.  Weak sauce, I agree, but totally in keeping with the GOP's never-ending campaign of distort, frighten & blame aimed at the Democrats specifically the Clintons.

Democrats do the same with the Republicans.  It's a never-ending, nauseating cycle.  I hate politics.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

LOL - The "Hero" of 9/11 is blasting Bill Clinton now.

I wondered how long it would take for one of those lemons to blame Bubba for 9/11.  Now I know.

Plenty of people have assigned a portion of blame to the Clinton White House, and rightfully so.  The budgets for defense and intelligence dropped significantly during his Presidency and effectively opened up the country to attack.  HOWEVER, Bush's administration (I don't even give him credit for being involved very much) made many specific tactical mistakes in the 8 months he was President before 9/11.

If you want to assign blame to American policy for the 9/11 attacks, Clinton and Bush both deserve a slice.  I prefer to blame the douches that actually attacked us, though.

[Rome]

I didn't assign blame to anyone.  Guiliani's the one doing the smearing here.  If he's looking for someone to blame he should start with the idiots who crashed two planes into buildings, not an ex-President who was in Australia at the time of the attacks.

[ice grillin you]

funny that rudy would mention the 93 attack...it was a few years after that attack that he decided to brilliantly put the cities emergency command center inside the wtc

hes one of the biggest frauds ever

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I didn't assign blame to anyone.  Guiliani's the one doing the smearing here.  If he's looking for someone to blame he should start with the idiots who crashed two planes into buildings, not an ex-President who was in Australia at the time of the attacks.

I agree for the most part.  I'm just saying that blaming Clinton is just as fair as blaming Bush.  There are, however, plenty of things since 9/11 that Bush has sufficiently cocked up.

hes one of the biggest frauds ever

Agree completely.  There is no way I would place a vote for Giuliani.