U.S. Iraq war casualties reach new milestone

Started by Diomedes, February 08, 2006, 09:00:29 AM

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Cerevant

My niece just married a Marine that is headed to Iraq in September.  The elections can't come soon enough.
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Diomedes

today's death toll rockets the May '07 body count into third place since the war began.

it's been nine months (august '06) since the average daily death rate for a given month was below the average for the entire war (2.44 and rising)
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mussa

don't start with Dio man. let me just tell you the conversation will go nowhere and only make each other angrier. your on total diff ends of the ladder. and i frankly don't feel like reading it.
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Quote from: Phanatic on May 14, 2007, 02:43:58 PM
Working in the bandwidth business somewhat I can understand why they would need to do that...

Do you really want our tax $$ being spent to buy larger connections to the internets so that people can use myspace?

I don't know about the guys on the ground, but when I was over there in the Navy, my ship's satellite connection was only 192kbs for the entire ship, and that was if you had an optimum signal.  This was 'way back' in 2001, so speeds may be higher now, but yeah, I can understand them wanting to save bandwidth.

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on May 14, 2007, 11:56:26 PM
I am headed there this fall. 

Don't forget to sit on your helmet!!  ;D

Seriously, Good Luck and come home safe!
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General_Failure

Quote from: tnt4philly on May 29, 2007, 10:38:45 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on May 29, 2007, 06:30:55 AM
not yours

Sorry, I assumed you were an American.

Someone didn't bother to read any of this thread. Le sigh. Let the namecalling begin! :yay

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tnt4philly

Quote from: NC_Eagle on May 29, 2007, 11:15:53 PM
Quote from: Phanatic on May 14, 2007, 02:43:58 PM
Working in the bandwidth business somewhat I can understand why they would need to do that...

Do you really want our tax $$ being spent to buy larger connections to the internets so that people can use myspace?

I don't know about the guys on the ground, but when I was over there in the Navy, my ship's satellite connection was only 192kbs for the entire ship, and that was if you had an optimum signal.  This was 'way back' in 2001, so speeds may be higher now, but yeah, I can understand them wanting to save bandwidth.

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on May 14, 2007, 11:56:26 PM
I am headed there this fall. 

Don't forget to sit on your helmet!!  ;D

Seriously, Good Luck and come home safe!

On the ground we have the NIPR and the SIPR. The SIPR is for secret comms, and is already restricted. The NIPR pretty much has the classification of any other Government connection with the added OPSEC of being in a combat zone. We got our connectivity OTA from the Marines that ran the FOB. I am not exactly sure what the total bandwidth of the system was, but there were times when th NIPR ran extremely slow. It got to the point that certain sites were restricted during the day.

Besides getting the internet VIA the MWR cafes, many of the troops on the ground have their own internet connections. I was part of a group of ten people that pitched in and bought a sat. system from an outgoing unit. After reselling the equipment to an incomong unit, our net cost pre person was about $200 for ten months of service that was a tab bit faster than dial up.

What is/was your rate in the Navy? I was in the Navy from 1987-1998 as an AT. I did six years in the Army Reserves before that, and have been in the PA National Guard since 1999. I was deployed with the 228th FSB from Jan05-Jun06. We were part of the 2BCT-28ID, and spent just shy of twelve months in the Anbar Province.

tnt4philly

Quote from: General_Failure on May 29, 2007, 11:46:25 PM
Quote from: tnt4philly on May 29, 2007, 10:38:45 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on May 29, 2007, 06:30:55 AM
not yours

Sorry, I assumed you were an American.

Someone didn't bother to read any of this thread. Le sigh. Let the namecalling begin! :yay

I read enough of it, but I guess not enough to see where this guy comes from. Since he said that he was not on my side, I figured he wasn't an American.

General_Failure

Try reading more. Also, try less blind cliches.

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tnt4philly

Quote from: tnt4philly on May 30, 2007, 05:19:47 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on May 29, 2007, 11:46:25 PM
Quote from: tnt4philly on May 29, 2007, 10:38:45 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on May 29, 2007, 06:30:55 AM
not yours

Sorry, I assumed you were an American.

Someone didn't bother to read any of this thread. Le sigh. Let the namecalling begin! :yay

I read enough of it, but I guess not enough to see where this guy comes from. Since he said that he was not on my side, I figured he wasn't an American.

What more could I learn from reading the crap he writes? That he is against the war so much that he celebrates each American death as a victory for "his" side?


Diomedes

You're illiterate if you think I'm celebrating U.S. casualties.

There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

General_Failure

Quote from: tnt4philly on May 30, 2007, 03:08:54 PM
Quote from: tnt4philly on May 30, 2007, 05:19:47 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on May 29, 2007, 11:46:25 PM
Quote from: tnt4philly on May 29, 2007, 10:38:45 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on May 29, 2007, 06:30:55 AM
not yours

Sorry, I assumed you were an American.

Someone didn't bother to read any of this thread. Le sigh. Let the namecalling begin! :yay

I read enough of it, but I guess not enough to see where this guy comes from. Since he said that he was not on my side, I figured he wasn't an American.

What more could I learn from reading the crap he writes? That he is against the war so much that he celebrates each American death as a victory for "his" side?



Again with the cheap, thoughtless, FOX News style bullying tactics. I thought you were supposed to be some sort of political pundit, so let's see it.

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tnt4philly

Quote from: Diomedes on May 30, 2007, 06:47:37 PM
You're illiterate if you think I'm celebrating U.S. casualties.



Then why post the number of deaths? Deaths are a part of war and using them to defend your stance is BS. If we ran from every war after a few thousand deaths, we would have stopped finishing them a few hundred years ago.

tnt4philly

Quote from: General_Failure on May 30, 2007, 10:27:14 PM
Quote from: tnt4philly on May 30, 2007, 03:08:54 PM
Quote from: tnt4philly on May 30, 2007, 05:19:47 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on May 29, 2007, 11:46:25 PM
Quote from: tnt4philly on May 29, 2007, 10:38:45 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on May 29, 2007, 06:30:55 AM
not yours

Sorry, I assumed you were an American.

Someone didn't bother to read any of this thread. Le sigh. Let the namecalling begin! :yay

I read enough of it, but I guess not enough to see where this guy comes from. Since he said that he was not on my side, I figured he wasn't an American.

What more could I learn from reading the crap he writes? That he is against the war so much that he celebrates each American death as a victory for "his" side?



Again with the cheap, thoughtless, FOX News style bullying tactics. I thought you were supposed to be some sort of political pundit, so let's see it.

Typical, "degrade opposing views as thoughtless and cheap" argument. Only a genius could come up with stuff like "Fox News Tactics." Oh, and "bullying," talk about blind BS. If you think my views on this subject are political, then you are the one that has a problem with reading comprehension. Of the all the people I am, republican is at the bottom of the list. My views may define my political affiliation, but they are not formed by politics. When one of our troops is killed in Iraq, I do not see it as a loss for the Republicans, or a win for the Democratics, I see it a loss for America. If we do end up losing in Iraq, some may see it as a politcal victory, but I do not. If we lose, we all lose.

MDS

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