Phillies season 8

Sgt PSN · September 04, 2005, 01:47:21 PM

Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 04, 2005, 01:44:14 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 04, 2005, 01:26:27 PM
I know it's early, but Floyd pitched one helluva first.

I should have kept my mouth shut

Yep. Double, Hit batter, Home Run. 3-0 Nats.

Geowhizzer · September 04, 2005, 02:27:30 PM

REMAIN CALM! ALL IS WELL!

PoopyfaceMcGee · September 04, 2005, 03:34:07 PM

This team doesn't deserve to make the playoffs.

MDS · September 04, 2005, 03:35:01 PM

It's gonna wind up as a 6-6 trip. Look at it that way.

10 game homestand coming up though. Need to at least go 6-4 here.

Geowhizzer · September 04, 2005, 03:39:48 PM

Quote from: MDS on September 04, 2005, 03:35:01 PM
It's gonna wind up as a 6-6 trip. Look at it that way.

10 game homestand coming up though. Need to at least go 6-4 here.

Honestly, 6-4 may not cut it. Need at least 7-3. (2-1 vs. Hou and Fla and 3-1 against Atl)

Eventually, one of these hanger-on teams are going to go on a tear. Houston and Florida have too much pitching in thier rotation to keep going 5-5 and 6-4.

If the Phils don't take full advantage of this homestand, they'll be behind in the WC race at the end because of it.

THIS is the make-or-break run for the Phils.

Sgt PSN · September 04, 2005, 03:42:56 PM

The good news is that the Cards are beating Houston and the Mets are beating Florida.

MDS · September 04, 2005, 03:45:37 PM

The Marlins and Astros are not good enough to go on a tear. If the Phillies continue to play .500 on the road and win series at home, things could work out. The Astros are on their way to losing 2/3 to St. Louis. Not winning at home like they should.

PoopyfaceMcGee · September 04, 2005, 03:48:19 PM

It's tough to win, even at home, if you're facing a superior team.

Talk to me after the Phillies win series against both Houston and Atlanta at home.

Geowhizzer · September 04, 2005, 04:05:00 PM

Quote from: MDS on September 04, 2005, 03:45:37 PM
The Marlins and Astros are not good enough to go on a tear. If the Phillies continue to play .500 on the road and win series at home, things could work out. The Astros are on their way to losing 2/3 to St. Louis. Not winning at home like they should.

Compare the rotations:

Marlins
Dontrelle Willis (19-8, 2.55)
Josh Burkett (12-8, 3.62)
A.J. Burnett (12-8, 3.07)
Brian Moehler (6-9, 3.98)
Ishmael Valdez (1-1, 4.36)

Astros
Roger Clemens (11-6, 1.57)
Roy Oswalt (16-11, 2.91)
Andy Pettitte (13-9, 2.50)
Wandy Rodriguez (9-6, 5.94)
Ezequiel Astacio (2-6, 5.96)

Phillies
Brett Myers (12-6, 3.51)
Jon Lieber (13-12, 4.57)
Vicente Padilla (8-12, 4.51)
Robinson Tejada (4-3, 3.19)
Eude Brito (0-0, 2.79)

What top three would you put your money on? Myers-Lieber-Padilla? I'll take either of the other two (Willis-Burkett-Burnett or Clemens-Oswalt-Pettitte). Heck, the Marlins' number four and five have lower ERAs than our number two (though Valez has too few games under his belt to be accounted for much).

I would say that the Marlins or Astros are MUCH more likely to pull a long winning streak, or at least a long stretch of .750 or better, than the Phillies. Both the Marlins and Astros have battle-tested rotations. Furthermore, one of the teams WILL go on a tear, and that will be the team that wins.

The Phillies have that chance this week. I submit again, this week is the litmus test for the Phils' playoff chances. 7-3 and it's much more likely. 6-4 and it stays status quo. 5-5 and they're in danger. Lower than 5-5 and they're pretty much toast.

PoopyfaceMcGee · September 04, 2005, 04:09:50 PM

The Eagles need Bell & Lieberthal to continue occasionally contributing to the offense, and they need Rollins to STOP SUCKING ASS. He's a seriously awful lead-off hitter IMO. If you can't get your lead-off hitter on base, you suck.

Geowhizzer · September 04, 2005, 04:21:21 PM

Quote from: FFatPatt on September 04, 2005, 04:09:50 PM
The Eagles need Bell & Lieberthal to continue occasionally contributing to the offense, and they need Rollins to STOP SUCKING ASS. He's a seriously awful lead-off hitter IMO. If you can't get your lead-off hitter on base, you suck.

Freudian slip, FF?

MDS · September 04, 2005, 04:25:49 PM

I understand both the Marlins and Astros have better starting pitching staffs than the Phillies. However, if both those teams were any good, they wouldn't be behind the Phillies in the WC chance. Magically, you're offense (Astros dont have it) and bullpen (Marlins dont have it) count for something. The Phillies are neither bad or great in any of those three catogories. That sorta helps them.

Dillen · September 04, 2005, 05:18:54 PM

Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 04, 2005, 04:05:00 PM
Astros
Roger Clemens (11-6, 1.57)
Roy Oswalt (16-11, 2.91)
Andy Pettitte (13-9, 2.50)
Wandy Rodriguez (9-6, 5.94)
Ezequiel Astacio (2-6, 5.96)

Take out Wandy or Zeke and put Backe in..

PhillyPhreak54 · September 04, 2005, 05:38:17 PM

Floyd pitched decent today. He had one bad inning. Not too shabby considering how sucky he was in AAA.

Too bad they couldn't score him any runs. Just like with Brito yesterday.

Good to see FLA and HOU lost.

MDS · September 04, 2005, 05:50:37 PM

Floyd made the one mistake to Schnieder, thats it. He actually pitched very considering what happened to him this year. I wasn't expecting much, and ended up being very impressed. If Tejeda and Lidle can get back, Brito and Floyd can be valuble options out of the bullpen this month. This could enable Manuel to pinch hit early and go to a Brito or Floyd in the pen for two innings. We shall see how it plays it out.

For now, its time to beat the Astros. They can't score runs. Sweep!