Phillies season 6

Started by MURP, July 18, 2005, 03:34:51 PM

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Eaglez

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And the trade deadline comes and goes...Nada. Nothing materalizes but the Braves pick up Farnsworth and the Marlins pick up Vallone to bolster their bullpens. Farsworth was a great pickup for the Braves. He's been lights out for the most part this season.

Thanks Ed Wade! The Marlins give up two crappy prospects to pick up Vallone for a couple of crappy prospects as well.

Wonderful...

JTrotter Fan

Another season down the tubes.  Yah Phillies!!   :boo :boo
When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.

PhillyGirl

I am glad they didn't trade anyone. I didn't want Wade to do anything....I can't believe anyone would WANT him to make a deal. Do you actually TRUST this guy to make any trades?  ::)
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

Eaglez

I'd take my chances with Wade pulling some sort of deal instead of standing pat and doing nothing when his team is in contention.

The Phils have all their core players locked up for years to come. The middle of the lineup is going to be there and Rollins is their shortstop for years to come. Everyone else is expendable. They have players to bargain with but refuse to make deals.

Neyer believes that Wade's inability to make deals and make great personnel moves is going to be his demise if the Phils don't make the playoffs this year. Luckily the Mets knocked off the Astros today and cooled them down a bit. We still have a chance at this thing but Lieber giving up 9 runs in the fifth against one of the worst lineups in the league is not too encouraging. They could have used another solid pitcher that they could count on to give them quality innings down the stretch (I'm not sold on Tejeda), and they didn't do so.

Hopefully they can pick up someone in August, but I can't imagine a ton of talent out there.

PhillyGirl

No farging way did I want Wade to do anything. I'll wait out this year, since our core is already signed, and when they miss the playoffs again, he'll HAVE TO BE FIRED and whomever they bring in can start making moves I might trust a whole hell of a lot more than Wade's shtein.
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

Wingspan

i have this feeling wade wont be fired.

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Rome

Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 31, 2005, 07:39:22 PM
No farging way did I want Wade to do anything. I'll wait out this year, since our core is already signed, and when they miss the playoffs again, he'll HAVE TO BE FIRED and whomever they bring in can start making moves I might trust a whole hell of a lot more than Wade's shtein.

I agree.  Hang 'em high!


PhillyGirl

Quote from: Wingspan on July 31, 2005, 07:47:53 PM
i have this feeling wade wont be fired.



They won't have a choice.
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

Rome

Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 31, 2005, 07:53:59 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on July 31, 2005, 07:47:53 PM
i have this feeling wade wont be fired.



They won't have a choice.

Yes they will.  We've been calling on the deaf ears of Monty & the Mysterions to do something about that walking clusterfarg for years, yet nothing has been done.

Nothing whatsoever.

If the Phillies end up with a winning record, subtle changes will be made again and we'll be given the same bullshtein sammich we've been force-fed since 2001.  I mean, considering the enormous outlay of payroll they have tied up in this bunch, how can we truly expect any big changes?

Honestly, I doubt they even tried to make a serious deal in the past two weeks.  They probably floated a few names in the press to keep the wolves at bay as Wade sat at his computer analyzing printouts of the stats of mediocre middle relievers who might come free after the deadline passes.

The whole thing makes me ill and since the Eagles have opened camp, I honestly don't give a farg what they do from here out.  Fire him, keep him... makes no difference to me.

When the Super Bowl is over in February, let me know and maybe I'll start caring about the Phillies again.  Until then, like I said, I really don't give a shtein.

BigEd76

Still only 2.5 out of the wildcard, but could be 7 out of the division this time tomorrow...

JTrotter Fan

Quote from: The Waco Kid on July 31, 2005, 05:47:35 PM
Another season down the tubes.  Yah Phillies!!   :boo :boo

For the record, i was speaking of the team and their crappy season...not Ed Wade...althought i want his head on a platter. 
When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Ron Villone is exactly the type of guy you'd expect Wade to give up some prospects for.  I'm glad he didn't do something like that for a change.

PhillyPhreak54

I'm not even pissed that the Phils didn't make any trades. There was nothing out there to me made. It's not like the Phils were the only team to not make a deal while other teams were burning up the transactions. No one did anything big because of several reasons: the first is that there are too many teams out there who think they're in it and the other reason is because this was a sellers market all the way.

I didn't want Ryan Howard or other young guys traded for slop like Kip Wells or Jamie Moyer. The only way I'd want to see a deal done is if it involved a guy like Jason Schmidt who was not available.

And the Phils fans screaming bloody murder for Manny Ramirez are nutzo. Wasn't a shot in hell that was happening.

And i didn't want Wade selling off guys either. He'd farg that up too. People will say Wags should've been dealt. Yeah, maybe they're right. But Wade's track record will not allow me to think he would've gotten anything worthwhile for Billy Wags. The Ghosts Of Phillies Past tell me that he would've gotten hosed in that deal.

And it is no foregone conclusion that Wade will be fired. Like I've said before...David Montgomery is in love with Wade. David Montgomery is loyal to a fault with people in this organization. Wade is his boy and he is a puppet. Monty barks and Wade does what he says.

Coud he be fired if they don't make the playoffs? You betcha. Is it likely? I doubt it, sadly. Why? Because Ed Wade does exactly what Monty wants. Why would Monty fire him? As long as people are going to CBP and stuffing money in Monty and his fellow owners pockets, Wade is no lock to be fired.

Wingspan

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 01, 2005, 06:23:42 AMAnd i didn't want Wade selling off guys either. He'd farg that up too. People will say Wags should've been dealt. Yeah, maybe they're right. But Wade's track record will not allow me to think he would've gotten anything worthwhile for Billy Wags. The Ghosts Of Phillies Past tell me that he would've gotten hosed in that deal.

this is the only part i have a small disagreement with.

i think they should have dealt wagner. there's no way he's a phillie next season, and they have a servicable closer in urbina. i think getting a little bit of promise back for him (maybe another utility guy and a A or AA prospect would have been better than the "boat load of nothing" they will get following the season.

thats the only "trade for trade's sake" i would have done. otherwise, no one else was really traded that made me say "damnit, the phils should get him"....

i still don't beleive wade will be fired, or else there would have been a deal or to, for no other reason that it would be a last ditch effort to save his job.

wade will be the GM next season. not making any moves says to me i can count on it at this point.
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MURP