havent been this excited for a draft in a long time...first round is going to be so much fun with the three picks and its so dope that two of them are back to back...also eagles need edge rushers badly and this draft is pretty loaded with them...my semi hot take is i have a strong feeling for some reason they end up with malik willis in the first round
1-15, last years trade down with mia
1-16, wentz
1-19, own
2-19, own
3-19, own
4- , own
5- , from dc for last year 6 & 7
5- , own
5- , ertz
6- , flacco pick is either
I know the odds of the Eagles not only keeping all three of those firsts is low, let alone drafting players that will each improve the team, but man I would really like to see it happen. I'm preparing myself for them trading back twice, but a man can dream.
I'd love to see them make all three picks. DE, LB and CB preferably.
However I can see them trading one for a one plus more in 2023.
But Howie has probably already been on the phone offering all three to Seattle for Mr Cornier than Five, Russell Wilson.
Howie was paying a lot of attention to Willis at the senior bowl. I wouldn't hate the pick but he's moving up draft boards.
https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/platform/amp/2022/2/3/22915840/eagles-news-howie-roseman-paying-particular-attention-malik-willis-quarterback-nfl-draft-senior-bowl
My 3 top priorities
DE
CB
WR
Hope they trade at least one pick for picks next year. Keep the ball rolling accumulating talent.
I'm not sold on Willis.
I read one report that says he does have some wow showings but he struggles with consistency. Who knows. But because this is a lousy QB draft he will be over drafted.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 17, 2022, 02:21:17 AM
I'm not sold on Willis.
Mid 1st round qb in a weak qb draft you shouldn't be sold on him. He's got the tools and closer to an nfl arm than Hurts. Guess they'd sell it to Hurts, the team and the fans as "we're a qb factory" bullshtein. His draft stock reminds me of Trey Lance, was seen as a mid round guy but shot up to #3 as more teams took notice.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 17, 2022, 02:21:17 AM
I'm not sold on Willis.
I read one report that says he does have some wow showings but he struggles with consistency. Who knows. But because this is a lousy QB draft he will be over drafted.
his upside is monstrous definitely worth a shot if you have three number picks and he makes it to one of them
A lot of Projected mocks Ive seen have him top 10 now so he'll probably wind up top 5
yeah he had a fantastic senior bowl...he's almost certainly not making it to 15
i dont want to be a buzzkill. ok i do.
what is the point in draft talk until FA happens? why are people mocking wr's and cb's to the eagles when, if they sign one, that mock makes no sense. i know the draft industrial complex is huge and people eat this shtein up but we know how this goes and can we all just chill
Quote from: MDS on February 17, 2022, 11:06:49 AM
i dont want to be a buzzkill. ok i do.
what is the point in draft talk until FA happens? why are people mocking wr's and cb's to the eagles when, if they sign one, that mock makes no sense. i know the draft industrial complex is huge and people eat this shtein up but we know how this goes and can we all just chill
Normal year I'd agree...year where they have 3 1sts is uncharted territory and worthy of early discussion
Also FA sucks this year...there are very few players you could sign that would alter your draft strategy and the eagles aren't getting any of them
corner id agree....wide out i suspect theyll be IN on mike williams who would certainly alter
getting an established big wr to pair with devonta/quez makes a ton of sense
I want no part of project picks this year. It has worked exactly once for this team, and that was Mailata.
Quote from: MDS on February 17, 2022, 02:06:11 PM
corner id agree....wide out i suspect theyll be IN on mike williams who would certainly alter
getting an established big wr to pair with devonta/quez makes a ton of sense
they have almost zero chance at mike williams....his price will be too high due to the bidding war that will be out there for him...not sure how much that would matter anyway...they would easily take a wr in the first round even if they signed him...williams would give them only two legit starting nfl wr's...and its not like they have one first rounder where a big time free agent WR would eliminate the chance at a wr in r1...as long as the player has the proper value to be taken mid first round any position is possible when you have three picks
Watching Devin White and Lavonte David I'm the wild card made me wonder what it would be like to have a legit NFL linebacker or two in an Eagles uniform..
Trotter was about the only one.
Skipping over Eagles legends Levon Kirkland, Shawn Barber, and Carlos Emmons to go for your meme pick. Disgusting.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 17, 2022, 07:49:01 PM
Trotter was about the only one.
the pre-andy eagles were pretty bad by all accounts. ray lost the team, who knows what the scouting dept was like. they bottomed out at 3-13 and everything, but sometimes i think about how, in those 3 years, they randomly drafted a ton of foundational pieces for the early andy runs. this is the same scouting dept that took jon harris in the 1st so theres no way there was a lot of thought into these picks. total ass backwards success.
96 1st - mayberry
96 2nd - dawk
96 udf - hollis
97 3rd - duce
97 5th - nd kalu
97 7th - koy
97 udf - chad
98 1st - tra
98 3rd - trot
98 3rd - rossum
98 4th - whiting
98 5th- ike
Quote from: General_Failure on February 17, 2022, 08:17:16 PM
Skipping over Eagles legends Levon Kirkland, Shawn Barber, and Carlos Emmons to go for your meme pick. Disgusting.
Haha
Thought about you when I wrote that
wow just saw the ojabo news
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 19, 2022, 01:41:37 PM
wow just saw the ojabo news
Howie's already planning the move back so he can pick him
Even for them the eagles draft hat is atrocious
This years draft just got a lot less interesting
https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/eagles-draft-trade-saints-blockbuster-spadaro
QuoteAnd on this day of April 4, 2022, Howie Roseman strikes with another NFL Draft trade bombshell: The Eagles have added more draft capital for this season and for the future. Philadelphia has agreed to trade the 16th and 19th overall picks, along with a sixth-round pick (No. 194 overall) in the 2022 NFL Draft to New Orleans in exchange for five draft picks. From the Saints, the Eagles will receive:
• The 18th overall pick in the 2022 NFL Draft
• A third-round draft pick from New Orleans, the 101st overall selection in 2022
• A seventh-round pick from the Saints, the 237th overall selection in 2022
• A first-round pick from New Orleans in the 2023 NFL Draft
• A second-round pick from New Orleans in the 2024 NFL Draft
Roseman struck early with the NFL Draft still three-plus weeks away and the deal gives the Eagles plenty of flexibility for 2022 and in the years to come. The key here is flexibility, as the Eagles kept the first of their three first-round draft picks for 2022 (they still have two first-rounders, Nos. 15 and 18) and added a third-round pick (No. 101 overall) and a seventh-rounder (No. 237 overall) this season, plus they have a No. 1 pick from New Orleans in 2023 and a second-rounder from the Saints in 2024.
i have no idea how he keeps doing this...a 23 1st is worth so much more than a 22 1st because youve got multiple franchise qbs in that draft and none in this one. and he pulled the trade off with a team who just lost their coach and is starting jameis winston at qb!
the caveat for the saints is most of their D is intact, theyve got 4 wins vs carolina and atlanta and have tampa's number. so pulling off 9-10 wins is possible.
ill trade the 1 this year for following the saints next year knowing *we* have their 1
Quote from: MDS on April 04, 2022, 04:14:12 PM
i have no idea how he keeps doing this...a 23 1st is worth so much more than a 22 1st because youve got multiple franchise qbs in that draft and none in this one. and he pulled the trade off with a team who just lost their coach and is starting jameis winston at qb!
the caveat for the saints is most of their D is intact, theyve got 4 wins vs carolina and atlanta and have tampa's number. so pulling off 9-10 wins is possible.
ill trade the 1 this year for following the saints next year knowing *we* have their 1
I think it's more likely than not the Saints pick is in the 10-15 range or lower next season. Howie can't draft worth a shtein but he maximizes draft capital. He essentially traded a mid first for a 1st,2nd and 3rd.
the saints have definite blowup potential...bad qb play, kamara hurt and old, mike thomas who knows, lost their coach, defense older. its possible.
they also could be an average offensive team with a top 10 d. that combo doesnt yield super bowls but it does contend for playoff spots, which puts the pick in the late teens.
im just happy to have something to follow this year and that they are ammo-ing up for the qb class
this is insane...trade boils down to this:
howie got a 23 1st, 24 2nd and 22 3rd for a mid round 1st
Quote from: MDS on April 04, 2022, 04:25:08 PM
kamara hurt and old
Also might be suspended for a month plus.
He has to have naked pix of half the GM's in the NFL.
This trade is just unbelievable.
Saints must have a very specific plan to deal this early and in such a one sided fashion. They probably aren't done moving.
howie should be on the phone with the chargers right now talking about 15
Anyone who thought all three picks would be made don't know Howie. He was definitely looking to get a first next season.
Howie crushed this trade.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 04, 2022, 05:16:45 PM
howie should be on the phone with the chargers right now talking about 15
That was my exact thought. New Orleans traded to get ahead of the Chargers. Howie can hold an even bigger hammer over the Clippers.
Next year's draft is going to be a wild scramble for QBs. Eagles are now the fifth team with multiple 2023 firsts and all five could be in the QB market. 13 months for additional teams to ammo up, too.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 04, 2022, 06:40:57 PM
Anyone who thought all three picks would be made don't know Howie. He was definitely looking to get a first next season.
Thought no, hoped yes. The odds were better that they'd find one good player out of three first round picks. I have more faith in the 7th round pick turning into a starter than I do either of the first round picks in either year.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 04, 2022, 09:18:36 PM
Next year's draft is going to be a wild scramble for QBs. Eagles are now the fifth team with multiple 2023 firsts and all five could be in the QB market. 13 months for additional teams to ammo up, too.
Yeah, that's one reason I can't get as excited as everyone else about the trade. I've heard for some time about Howie trading to get a second 1st round pick next year 'to go up and get a QB', but it's not like going to the 7-eleven to get a snickers bar. We have no idea how the QB scene will look next year. If there are only a couple of prospects that are projected as true franchise quarterbacks and then a big drop off, and the teams that are at the top of the draft are there because they have no QB, good luck. And even if Howie is able to engineer some Carson Wentz like deal, if could turn out to be another Carson Wentz. And what if Hurts makes some nice progress, but nothing yet that looks like he'd be able to lead a team to a SB victory, what do you do? It's still no-man's land.
On the upside, it does help the cap and I didn't realize this year how much I'd enjoy rooting against another team whose pick we have, so there is that.
https://theeagleswire.usatoday.com/lists/eagles-trade-saints-nfl-draft-2023-prospects-cj-stroud-bryce-young/ (https://theeagleswire.usatoday.com/lists/eagles-trade-saints-nfl-draft-2023-prospects-cj-stroud-bryce-young/)
As we're all curious on class of 2023 QB's.
If. A huge if. But if Hurts proves he's a solid NFL starter they're positioned well to build a nice roster
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 04, 2022, 10:04:17 PM
If. A huge if. But if Hurts proves he's a solid NFL starter they're positioned well to build a nice roster
Hurts stinks and wouldn't be the starter in the fall if the draft class was average or any high end vet wanted to play in Philly. I still think Howie was poised to go after Watson this offseason but then the kid jizzed on a bunch of masseuses (and declined to lift his no-trade clause to play for the Eagles to boot).
To evolve into a franchise-quality (top 15) starter Hurts would at minimum need to level up a few times in arm strength, reading defenses, accuracy, and mechanics, while not losing his scrambling ability. It's not impossible but highly unlikely. He seems to work hard and have good leadership abilities.
In all likelihood he will be the 25th or so best starter. He's not Ben DiNucci but if he's the starter in 2023, something has either gone very wrong or very right.
More likely than not yeah he doesn't turn into a stud. Or even above average.
And you're right. If Watson didn't like happy endings he'd be an Eagle.
Nice link, Don. Hope it holds up that there will actually be 7 or so 1st round qb prospects.
Attention to detail fail: just noticed the future 2nd is in 2024 not 2023. I still like the trade but the values a bit diminished.
I wouldn't mind another trade back in the 1st if they could pick up another 2nd. There's a lot of depth at need positions
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 04, 2022, 09:18:36 PM
Eagles are now the fifth team with multiple 2023 firsts
There are an all time record 8 this year
Quote from: Eagaholic on April 04, 2022, 11:56:21 PM
Nice link, Don. Hope it holds up that there will actually be 7 or so 1st round qb prospects.
I'll be watching a lot of Alabama, The OSU, BC, Coastal Carolina, UVA, South Carolina games this season.
The first round is on my birthday. I have more birthdays behind me than ahead of me, so all I ask is that Howie NOT farg THIS UP.
That and a sloppy blowjob from my wife.
So I pretty much anticipate being disappointed on both counts.
Go Birds.
welp, there goes my boner
Quote from: Rome on April 06, 2022, 12:04:41 PM
The first round is on my birthday. I have more birthdays behind me than ahead of me, so all I ask is that Howie NOT farg THIS UP.
That and a sloppy blowjob from my wife.
So I pretty much anticipate being disappointed on both counts.
Go Birds.
Lolol
Romey, I farging love you. I really do!
fwiw
https://twitter.com/thomasrp93/status/1519010867953733633 21&t=qOiZHi9rOkJXe11a59HU1w
This has disaster written all over it, move up and draft Smelly Joe Penis, undersized DE from Pima Community College.
Birds have two 3rds and three 5ths so plenty of ammo to move up. I want Jameson Williams. If Jermaine Johnson or Kyle Hamilton drop possible trade ups. Rumors Thibodeaux or Sauce Gardner might drop but I just don't see it.
There's no players I'm in love with, nor do the Eagles have a single super glaring need that can only be addressed in this first round, so this draft is a big whatever. I just hope they hit on whoever they go after.
If the Eagles truly do want to move up, it's probably more about the perceived lack of value in the back half of the first round than about some particular kid they are super focused on.
I think Howie gonna take a QB now and maybe again next year. Factories need churn.
ive never seen him play a second but ive wanted kyle hamilton for months...go do it
Quote from: Diomedes on April 26, 2022, 10:17:02 PM
I think Howie gonna take a QB now and maybe again next year. Factories need churn.
They will, but I don't expect it to be early. Then again no one saw the Hurts pick coming at the time either.
Seems Howie-like to trade Minshew to some team that's desperate between now and Week 1, but at this point he's a vet on a rookie contract so they won't give him away for nothing.
With a lot of teams seeming content to wait for their QB next year, I suspect someone is going to get to thinking that he's the smarted guy in the room, that you gotta set trends not follow them, etc., and read the paucity of interest in this crop of QBs as an opportunity to scoop one up "cheaply" with one of those 1st round picks.
Pickett is a lock to the Stillerz.
Quote from: Rome on April 27, 2022, 11:52:21 AM
Pickett is a lock to the Stillerz.
everything I've heard is they are in love with willis
I just want Jameson Williams whatever it takes to get it done
Quote from: Diomedes on April 27, 2022, 06:40:02 AM
With a lot of teams seeming content to wait for their QB next year, I suspect someone is going to get to thinking that he's the smarted guy in the room, that you gotta set trends not follow them, etc., and read the paucity of interest in this crop of QBs as an opportunity to scoop one up "cheaply" with one of those 1st round picks.
If you listen to the fans and pundits, I think we're up to maybe 22 teams with the brainchild of just waiting til next year to draft their franchise QB because there will be more then.
As for Pickett, it might be a smoke screen but I've seen the Steelers don't want him not just because of his small hands and double joints, but also because he fumbled a lot and that's without ever having to play a game in December in Pittsburgh.
Welp, I'm one for one so far and considering I was out late last night with my colleagues from the office (without her), I'm pretty damn surprised.
On to the draft now... don't farging farg this up, Howard Roseman!!
https://www.phillyvoice.com/eagles-2022-mock-draft-roundup-national-guys-gals-edition/
I like most of these.
Give me a CB and Jameson Williams or a LB (Dean or Lloyd)
Been seeing a lot of mocks with Williams/Mcduffie. I'd be fine with those picks I just don't see Williams lasting until 15. With the offseason wr trade and contract craziness I can see the top 5 guys (Wilson/Williams/Olave/London/Burks) going in the top 15 to 20 with possibly Dotson also going top 20. My guess is if they get Williams it's due to a trade up.
If mocks can be any indication, I like seeing a lot of Jordan Davis going at 15 (if the Ravens don't get him at 14). Even though he's a bit boom or bust I doubt Fletch has a big come back year at this point in his career, and they can't bring him back at the kind of money he's likely to get. Hargrave was all pro until teams started doubling him instead of Cox, and he might be near that level again if they can replace Cox with Davis (if they're able to re-sign Hargrave - if they can't, all the more reason to go DT).
Eagles odds for position of first player selected
WR +150
Defensive Line +225
Corner +450
Offensive Line +575
LB +750
Safety +750
QB +1500
RB +10000
TE +10000
I put a little on safety, receiver and DL.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2022, 01:54:46 PM
https://www.phillyvoice.com/eagles-2022-mock-draft-roundup-national-guys-gals-edition/
I like most of these.
Give me a CB and Jameson Williams or a LB (Dean or Lloyd)
I guess it's possible they wouldn't have to use a first rounder but they will have to trade up for Williams
if they get two players in the first round tonight and one is Williams it will have been an absolute coup
Yeah and now reports are coming out that Howie is making calls to move up.
Being that this isn't a super talent laden draft I guess I could see a move up bc of that.
Ideally I'd like him to stay put bc I really want some defensive help too.
if theres one thing thats true its "media reports" about howie's actions
Go find us a second source and report on it 💪
the only nfl number i have is tom brookshier's home phone and hes very dead and was very out of the loop and very drunk
ever since twitter started showing recommended tweets i see so many terrible fanboy accounts that share a mix of utter garbage and sickening homer shtein...really difficult for a non media pro to surf through
I love when the fanboy accts drop the "this kid looks great on tape"
Eagles on the clock
They've traded up
And the Lions stole Jameson
A 4th and 2 5ths to move up a few spots. Phils/Sixers won so Howie had to farg us
Had to get ahead of Baltimore to take him
Horrendous pick
At least he looks like the Red Stripe guy
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2022, 09:42:27 PM
Horrendous pick
not happy at all. Lions farged Howie like a one eyed whore.
Nm
Anyone hearing the AJ Brown rumors?
Seabiscut was all over this shtein
Seabiscuit texted me that Schefter was reporting this but I was in shock, to scared to post it.
Hey Booger, lay off the birds man.
Jermaine Johnson? The farg?
Trade #51, #83, #100 with someone and move up and get JJ!! That dude will be on a mission in the NFL.
Quote from: Don Ho on April 28, 2022, 10:47:54 PM
Trade #51, #83, #100 with someone and move up and get JJ!! That dude will be on a mission in the NFL.
I'm all in on this
how about dont invest a first round pick on a guy who will be a fossil by his 2nd contract
Oh well...slick suit
Achilles tears are a bitch but wouldn't hate Ojabo if he falls.
Or Malik Willis because the qb factory needs supplies
Love Ojabo! and Nik Bonitto
other than RB i cant think of a position i wouldnt take tonight as long as it was BPA
not tonight but i would kill for araiza at some point in the draft....he would be the most pleasurable pick they have made in a long time
If they had traded up for Williams any guesses who'd they have taken with 18? I'm wild guessing Mcduffie or a possible trade back
Quote from: TAFKASD on April 29, 2022, 03:21:11 PM
If they had traded up for Williams any guesses who'd they have taken with 18? I'm wild guessing Mcduffie or a possible trade back
Whichever defensive player the Ravens didn't take, probably.
If they are both gone I think they trade back.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 29, 2022, 03:42:31 PM
Quote from: TAFKASD on April 29, 2022, 03:21:11 PM
If they had traded up for Williams any guesses who'd they have taken with 18? I'm wild guessing Mcduffie or a possible trade back
Whichever defensive player the Ravens didn't take, probably.
If they are both gone I think they trade back.
That was my thought, too. Acquiring Haasan Reddick and Kyzir White suggests Gannon may be gearing up for more 3 man fronts, for which Jordan Davis should be a perfect nose. But if he was gone by 15 I could see trading back a few and still getting Karlaftis or Jemaine Johnson, who should also play well in an odd man front.
I had a list of 12 players in this round I'd be good with....3 are gone in the first 6 picks....honestly some were not realistic tho
Also what are the odds howie doesn't trade back from 51
i really wanted mafe
makes sense here cause he seems like a legion of boom type player
Mel didn't seem very high on Mafe
Secondary guys are flying off the board.
I could see Brisker or Howie trading back
brisker would be a mistake...also other than LB is there a position howie values less than S
At this point it's the whole league that doesn't value safeties. That's why I don't think the FO is stressing out about getting one. The Eagles' disregard for linebackers is special though.
Nakobe Dean is gonna be there for them.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 29, 2022, 08:15:28 PM
Nakobe Dean is gonna be there for them.
i wont say they wont take him but id be shocked if they took a LB
id rather have christian harris if they do
my top now are
drake jackson
malik
trey mcbride
cam jergens
skyy moore
I'm fine with Harris too.
Just give me a damn athletic and good LB please
yes!!
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 29, 2022, 08:19:22 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 29, 2022, 08:15:28 PM
Nakobe Dean is gonna be there for them.
i wont say they wont take him but id be shocked if they took a LB
id rather have christian harris if they do
my top now are
drake jackson
malik
trey mcbride
cam jergens
skyy moore
I get it.
Buuuuuuuut
DRAFT A LB FOR CRYING OUT LOUD
not sure how many times it has to be said that they dont take LB's early and unless its a LB "edge" then they are mostly correct
howie is howie and the eagles are the eagles
always gonna be about the line...they dont value LB and never will
their line is really good already and just got better. its boring but you cant complain
Jergy going to sell out tomorrow.
I'm not complaining at all. Love this pick. He's going to be mentored by a HOF'er and coached by the best in the business.
Not sure what's happened to Nakobe Dean but whew he dropped.
I know they don't take LBs but it farging annoys me
they cant probably still get dean in the 3rd lol
shtein he may be there in the 5th
DeMarvin Leal
Nakobe
Christian Harris
Marcus Jones
Leo Chenal
Nick Cross
Kerby Joseph
Guys I wouldn't mind seeing here
Forgot to add Tariq Woolen to that list
i dont know a bunch about a lot of people here but i feel fairly strongly about these plus malik or howell
deangelo malone
tariq woolen
calvin austin
khalil shakir
kerby joseph
Yeah Malone would be good too
farged for the second time in three picks
lol congrats j
JJJJJJJJ!!
Oh my god they got him.
YESSSSS!!!
Happily shocked they didn't "smartest guy in the room" this pick.
https://twitter.com/JTrotter_54/status/1520228182456164359
Up until yesterday I saw legit mocks that had Malik Willis going as high as 2 to Detroit
at least the rooney rule is doing good
So now they still need some corner help and need to sign Honey Badger
araiza LFG!
Traded 154 for 188 and 198...meh
Traded 188 and 237 to get up to 181.
https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1520539232825094145
https://twitter.com/mzenitz/status/1520539733474095105
they signed someone named carson strong?
Yeah Nevada QB. Big arm.
Man...they had a helluva udfa crop too
http://4thandjawn.com/2022/04/30/2022-philadelphia-eagles-udfa-tracker/
Quote from: MDS on April 30, 2022, 07:57:35 PM
they signed someone named carson strong?
Nice change from Carson Weak.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2022, 09:59:32 PM
Man...they had a helluva udfa crop too
http://4thandjawn.com/2022/04/30/2022-philadelphia-eagles-udfa-tracker/
so good they weren't even drafted.
Carson Strong, saw some of him in the Mountain West. Ok, good QB, wasn't blown away.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/carson-strong-undrafted-eagles-qb-knee-injury/oy1hf1oldkeegsllgskwt8lr (https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/carson-strong-undrafted-eagles-qb-knee-injury/oy1hf1oldkeegsllgskwt8lr)
Interesting:
QuoteIf Strong is selected before the end of the second round this year, he would become the fifth such quarterback from the Mountain West Conference, the others being Nevada's Colin Kaepernick (2011); Fresno State's Derek Carr (2014); Wyoming's Josh Allen (2018); and Utah State's Jordan Love (2021). To compare, the Big Ten has only three such quarterbacks taken in that span.