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Title: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on November 02, 2016, 02:37:59 PM
Matt Stairs is the new hitting coach and no I am not joking
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on November 02, 2016, 02:42:29 PM
Ha!

Perfect. 
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 02, 2016, 02:50:15 PM
Deeeeep into the night! Stairs!
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on November 02, 2016, 02:57:09 PM
whatever gets him out of the broadcasting booth
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: QB Eagles on November 02, 2016, 03:11:03 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 02, 2016, 02:57:09 PM
whatever gets him out of the broadcasting booth

My first thought too.

I would have gladly taken TMac as the hitting coach.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 02, 2016, 03:32:43 PM
Stairs may end up being ok as a coach

And this is good sometimes...but is there a more incestuous team in sports than the Phillies? If you have ever had some sort of connection with them then you're pretty much guaranteed a job.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on November 02, 2016, 03:45:20 PM
rumor has kruk replacing him...that would be awesome
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 02, 2016, 03:45:28 PM
Kruk could be his booth replacement

That would be great
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 02, 2016, 05:59:41 PM
Why would Kruk leave that buttery analyst job at espn to call games for the Phillies?  No way they'll come close on matching salary and he'll be back on the same travel schedule as his playing days.  I'd love it but it doesn't make much sense....unless he just wants to get closer to the game again.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Geowhizzer on November 02, 2016, 06:09:47 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 02, 2016, 03:32:43 PM
Stairs may end up being ok as a coach

And this is good sometimes...but is there a more incestuous team in sports than the Phillies? If you have ever had some sort of connection with them then you're pretty much guaranteed a job.

The Flyers are right up there.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on November 02, 2016, 06:15:48 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 02, 2016, 05:59:41 PM
Why would Kruk leave that buttery analyst job at espn to call games for the Phillies?  No way they'll come close on matching salary and he'll be back on the same travel schedule as his playing days.  I'd love it but it doesn't make much sense....unless he just wants to get closer to the game again.

he doesn't work for ESPN
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 02, 2016, 06:16:18 PM
I'm pretty site that if you look at every pro team's staff, you'll find them all littered with former players.  Can't imagine the Phils are significantly worse than the average.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 02, 2016, 07:12:38 PM
I'll break it down one of these days but I'd guess the Phils have the most on the payroll - not just on field staff - of former players.

If Kruk gets the gig I'll watch despite TMac
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 02, 2016, 08:50:37 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 02, 2016, 06:15:48 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 02, 2016, 05:59:41 PM
Why would Kruk leave that buttery analyst job at espn to call games for the Phillies?  No way they'll come close on matching salary and he'll be back on the same travel schedule as his playing days.  I'd love it but it doesn't make much sense....unless he just wants to get closer to the game again.

he doesn't work for ESPN


Yeah, I see that now. Didn't know he just left.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2016, 07:27:41 PM
Pat Neshek acquired from Houston for a PTBNL or cash

Option picked up at $6.5m
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on November 07, 2016, 11:59:41 AM
remember when the simps complained about not trading hellickson at the deadline?

welp they're about to wind up with around the 25th pick in the draft for him. hes going to reject the QO and sign a multi year deal this offseason in what is a horrendous market for SP. would you rather have a top 30 pick or some scrub A ball player from the marlins?

exactly.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Munson on November 11, 2016, 04:47:28 PM
Howie Kendrick for Darren Ruff
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on November 11, 2016, 06:50:04 PM
And Sweeney. 

Good trade.  Really nice move considering their LF's were abysmal last year. 
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 11, 2016, 06:53:00 PM
Can't really be mad at that.

Ruf's value is basically nil and Sweeney isn't much.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on November 11, 2016, 07:00:44 PM
Kendrick is a solid player and all it took to get him was money and organization flotsam. 

Nothing bad about this. 
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Geowhizzer on November 11, 2016, 07:05:34 PM
Just being rid of Ruf makes it a decent trade.  The fact that they actually got an MLB player for him is amazing.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on November 11, 2016, 07:08:50 PM
Klentagic?
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 11, 2016, 08:51:41 PM
Klentamaniac
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Don Ho on November 11, 2016, 10:06:22 PM
Howie  Kendrick for Ruf?  In
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on November 12, 2016, 12:24:07 AM
they did this trade because all the advanced metrics told them kendrick had a chance to bounce back....he had a low babip last year that was more or less bad luck. so theres that.

oh no! math! data! RAMBLE RAMBLE sports
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 14, 2016, 05:36:38 PM
Quote from: MDS on November 07, 2016, 11:59:41 AM
remember when the simps complained about not trading hellickson at the deadline?

welp they're about to wind up with around the 25th pick in the draft for him. hes going to reject the QO and sign a multi year deal this offseason in what is a horrendous market for SP. would you rather have a top 30 pick or some scrub A ball player from the marlins?

exactly.

About that...

He signed his QO

That's surprising
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Geowhizzer on November 14, 2016, 06:08:42 PM
That surprised me.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on November 14, 2016, 07:12:16 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 14, 2016, 05:36:38 PM
Quote from: MDS on November 07, 2016, 11:59:41 AM
remember when the simps complained about not trading hellickson at the deadline?

welp they're about to wind up with around the 25th pick in the draft for him. hes going to reject the QO and sign a multi year deal this offseason in what is a horrendous market for SP. would you rather have a top 30 pick or some scrub A ball player from the marlins?

exactly.

About that...

He signed his QO

That's surprising

did not see this coming and neither did mcphail or klentak....when does a boras client ever take the QO?

they can still swap helly for that same crappy marlins A ball pitcher in july, provided he is as decent as he was last year. the money is meaningless, the phils have more than they can use, but all in all jeremy hellickson is getting paid 17 million dollars to pitch. what a world.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 14, 2016, 07:45:00 PM
That's why it's shocking bc Boras is his guy

With the dearth of pitching I'm surprised he couldn't get a deal. Unless Boras didn't get whatever insane number he wanted and wants another shot at the market?

Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on November 14, 2016, 08:36:50 PM
Maybe every other franchise in the Major Leagues realizes he's not worth a long term deal much less a one year gift of 17+ million?
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 14, 2016, 08:40:15 PM
You're giving teams too much credit broham
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on November 14, 2016, 10:09:53 PM
Quote from: Rome on November 14, 2016, 08:36:50 PM
Maybe every other franchise in the Major Leagues realizes he's not worth a long term deal much less a one year gift of 17+ million?

its because teams outside the top 10 of the draft would have to give up a 1st round pick to sign him. hes not getting 17 mil per year on the open market on a 3 year deal...thats just what the QO is.

even more so the new cba figures to remove the draft pick penalty so helly was looking at a very limited market. if he has another good year, hes going to feel like a nice cheap steal with the ridiculous 2018 fa class.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Geowhizzer on November 17, 2016, 07:13:26 PM
Gostisbehere is a healthy scratch tonight.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on December 01, 2016, 01:16:07 PM
Kruk is s/s/d for the tv booth. 
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: smeags on December 01, 2016, 01:59:20 PM
Quote from: Rome on December 01, 2016, 01:16:07 PM
Kruk is s/s/d for the tv booth.

:yay
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on December 01, 2016, 03:47:27 PM
Now if they'd just axe McCarthy we'd be all set. 
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on December 01, 2016, 09:26:52 PM
franzke-la-kruk would be maybe the best booth ever
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: smeags on December 02, 2016, 12:32:12 PM
Quote from: MDS on December 01, 2016, 09:26:52 PM
franzke-la-kruk would be maybe the best booth ever

agreed.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on December 02, 2016, 12:35:31 PM
True but this is the Phillies, so you'll get Brussel sprouts with your prime rib and like it, Mister.   
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: smeags on December 02, 2016, 12:50:19 PM
speaking of nasty brussel sprouts - my sister always makes them for thanksgiving. sautéed with onions and bacon.

yeah, ill have a heaping pile of those, just hold the brussel sprouts please.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on December 02, 2016, 01:01:19 PM
A woman in my office nuked a dish full of those things several years ago.   It smelled like dirty ass and vomit combined.   Seriously from that moment on brussel sprouts were forbidden in the office. 
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 02, 2016, 03:19:18 PM
Same category as people who nuke fish in an office. Die.

Any legs to these JD martinez rumors?
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 02, 2016, 03:32:25 PM
Asche DFAd for some lefty pitcher from Texas
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on December 02, 2016, 07:15:58 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 02, 2016, 03:19:18 PMAny legs to these JD martinez rumors?

god i hope not

hes going to be 30, has played more than 125 games just once in his career and will be need a new contract in 2018. it doesnt make a lick of sense for them.

if you want to think outside the box, think justin upton. hes the same age as JD and not nearly as good, but he doesnt really get injured and might be attainable as a simple salary dump. JD would cost prospects. he makes more sense to go to a team ready to win right now.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 02, 2016, 09:01:52 PM
That's what I am wondering is what it would cost to get him. He's got power but the injuries are a concern as is the type of deal he will want
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 04, 2016, 10:59:42 PM
Bullpen remake continues

Salisbury says they're about to sign Joaquin Benoit. He's 39.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on December 15, 2016, 04:24:27 PM
odubel lock and load
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on December 15, 2016, 05:13:26 PM
Hey now, you're an all star, get your game on, get paid...
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on December 15, 2016, 07:20:46 PM
2019
c: alfaro
1b: franco
2b: kingery/hernandez
ss: jp
3b: machado
of: herrera
of: undetermined free agent signing
of: ?

sup
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: SD on December 15, 2016, 07:33:09 PM
Quote from: MDS on December 15, 2016, 07:20:46 PM
2019
c: alfaro
1b: franco
2b: kingery/hernandez
ss: jp
3b: machado
of: herrera
of: Harper
of: ?

sup J
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on December 15, 2016, 07:42:31 PM
they arent signing both harper and machado but i would be shocked if they didnt go all out to get 1.

their new tv deal kicks in i think next year...theyve been well under budget for the last 2 years and will be for the next 2....they have no committed $ for 19/20/21 outside of the herrera deal.

get ready.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 15, 2016, 08:35:42 PM
Lol

Machado please

Maik Maik to first
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on December 15, 2016, 08:56:36 PM
i want them to sign harper more just to see how quickly your 180 will be on him
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 15, 2016, 11:43:36 PM
Guarantee that won't happen
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on December 16, 2016, 06:08:53 AM
They're not signing Bryce Harper.  They don't want him and they definitely don't want his insanely bloated salary weighing them down for the next 10 years.   
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on December 16, 2016, 06:21:55 AM
they aret getting Harper cause if he does leave it's to the yanks but don't get it twisted they definitely would want him

I've wanted machado from the day I saw him debut for the Orioles....he's my favorite player in Baseball
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on December 16, 2016, 07:34:29 AM
They don't want to spend 50 million dollars a year on that dickface.  He's not worth it on any level plus he would be hated in Philly.  Not by you but you're a Nats fan anyway, so...   
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on December 16, 2016, 08:03:26 AM
everyone is worth what someone will pay them....it doesn't matter what fans think someone should get

machado and Harper are both getting insane amounts of money...if you want one you have to pay...prepare yourself now to be disgusted romey then you won't feel as bad when it happens
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: smeags on December 16, 2016, 08:09:56 AM
im with lil guy, id like to see harper signed for the entertainment value of watching J go from obsession level hate, to the equivalent of a teenage girl's love for one direction.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on December 16, 2016, 09:02:10 AM
I have 50 bucks here that guarantees Harper will not be a Phillie. 

Will IGY take that bet?

Also - I understand Jay's hatred of Harper.   No way he ever changes his tune there. 
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on December 16, 2016, 09:28:06 AM
why would i do that when approximately 17 minutes ago in this very thread i said to you that there was no chance he was going to the phillies....you are weird dook

90% yanks
10% nats
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on December 16, 2016, 09:42:00 AM
You inferred they were getting either Machado or Harper, hence the Harper bet. 

I'd squirt if they got Macho.  Harper is a POS human. 
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on December 16, 2016, 09:55:05 AM
i did no such thing....i said they would sign harper in a heartbeat if they had the chance and i said i wanted machado....never said either were going to the phils
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on December 16, 2016, 02:29:12 PM
Quote from: Rome on December 16, 2016, 09:42:00 AM
Harper is a POS human.

you would almost be before j in sucking his cock if he was on the phillies
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: QB Eagles on December 16, 2016, 03:24:53 PM
Here's the Phils offseason highlights for 2016-17:

Quote from: MDS on November 02, 2016, 02:37:59 PM
Matt Stairs is the new hitting coach and no I am not joking

Quote from: Munson on November 11, 2016, 04:47:28 PM
Howie Kendrick for Darren Ruff

Quote from: Geowhizzer on November 17, 2016, 07:13:26 PM
Gostisbehere is a healthy scratch tonight.

Quote from: smeags on December 02, 2016, 12:50:19 PM
speaking of nasty brussel sprouts - my sister always makes them for thanksgiving. sautéed with onions and bacon.

Gonna be a long season of watching young guys not develop.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on December 16, 2016, 05:31:17 PM
Quote from: MDS on December 16, 2016, 02:29:12 PM
Quote from: Rome on December 16, 2016, 09:42:00 AM
Harper is a POS human.

you would almost be before j in sucking his cock if he was on the phillies

Unequivocally false and your obsession with other men sucking dicks is disturbing, lil guy. 
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on December 16, 2016, 05:50:13 PM
j will be in post press conference you will be in when when he hits a homer in his first AB in clearwater
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 16, 2016, 06:22:48 PM
Incorrect.

Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on December 16, 2016, 06:32:49 PM
ill never be able to prove im right because hes obviously going to ny or staying in dc but i am right

when all die in president trumps nuclear holocaust i will succumb to the poisons knowing that i was right
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on December 20, 2016, 11:44:44 AM
traded for clay buchholz

1. he has 1 year and 13.5 mil on his deal. the phillies are like 50-80 mil below their salary level so whatever
2. they traded a 24 year old utility infielder that hasnt made it out of A ball
3. this creates a massive logjam at SP which i think is a good thing. make everyone, even nola and velasquez, earn a rotation spot
4. is buccholz rebounds he can be traded at the deadline for something. or he sucks, never makes the rotation they burn 13 million.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: smeags on December 20, 2016, 11:47:17 AM
blockbuster
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: QB Eagles on December 20, 2016, 12:20:29 PM
Quote from: MDS on December 20, 2016, 11:44:44 AM
3. this creates a massive logjam at SP which i think is a good thing. make everyone, even nola and velasquez, earn a rotation spot

Yeah that's really the only complaint someone can have and it's not a valid complaint. The position is crowded, but it's crowded with marginal guys. Play like a major leaguer or hone your craft in AAA. Trade makes sense for both teams.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on December 20, 2016, 12:21:29 PM
yeah its only a log jam at pitcher if you count prospects who will never be regular starters in the majors like eflin...appel...pivetta....etc..

shtein i think theres a 50/50 chance bucholz ends up in the pen

the real log jam is at lehigh valley
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on December 20, 2016, 12:37:53 PM
Log jam.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: smeags on December 20, 2016, 12:54:22 PM
jam >>>>>>>>> jelly
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 03, 2017, 05:25:08 PM
Phils targeting Joey Bats.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on January 03, 2017, 07:08:47 PM
That literally makes no sense. 
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on January 04, 2017, 07:12:09 AM
if they wanna sign him to some super short deal as a bridge to the prospects id be fine with it....but doesnt it cost a pick to sign him....that is what would make it really dumb
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Geowhizzer on January 04, 2017, 07:24:08 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 04, 2017, 07:12:09 AM
if they wanna sign him to some super short deal as a bridge to the prospects id be fine with it....but doesnt it cost a pick to sign him....that is what would make it really dumb

According to Ken Rosenthal (http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/philadelphia-phillies-jose-bautista-jay-bruce-brandon-moss-free-agency-trades-hot-stove-ken-rosenthal-010317), it would cost them a second round pick (first round is protected because they suck).  And I agree, that would be a stupid thing to do.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on January 04, 2017, 07:44:55 AM
Yep.  This is a team that is trying to rebuild thru the draft.  Giving up a 2nd to sign a guy for a year is the opposite of smart.   No chance it happens. 
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: smeags on January 04, 2017, 07:50:13 AM
pass
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Geowhizzer on January 04, 2017, 08:00:48 AM
Quote from: Rome on January 04, 2017, 07:44:55 AM
Yep.  This is a team that is trying to rebuild thru the draft.  Giving up a 2nd to sign a guy for a year is the opposite of smart.   No chance it happens.

Hi, are you new to Philly sports?
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: smeags on January 04, 2017, 08:01:43 AM
I mean, we will get to see about 15 bat flips during the season, so there's that.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on January 04, 2017, 09:00:25 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on January 04, 2017, 08:00:48 AM
Quote from: Rome on January 04, 2017, 07:44:55 AM
Yep.  This is a team that is trying to rebuild thru the draft.  Giving up a 2nd to sign a guy for a year is the opposite of smart.   No chance it happens.

Hi, are you new to Philly sports?

I'll take "Lance Parrish & Gregg Jeffries" for $1,000, Alex. 
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 04, 2017, 12:26:55 PM
No thanks on signing him.

Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: BigEd76 on January 10, 2017, 05:59:21 PM
97.5 did a poll asking if people are sick of the Phanatic. The Phillies responded with instructions to deactivate the Twitter account
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on January 10, 2017, 07:10:03 PM
^^^^
that's some HOF easy right there
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on January 10, 2017, 11:10:34 PM
coulda just done this https://twitter.com/Phillies/status/818926430545465345?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

but easy had to explain it. man i miss that guy. where you at cuz

Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 12, 2017, 05:46:10 PM
1 yr deal with Galvis.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 16, 2017, 01:48:24 PM
Michael Saunders signed

.253 with 24HR last year
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: smeags on January 16, 2017, 02:22:42 PM
80 ?
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Geowhizzer on January 16, 2017, 03:37:23 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 16, 2017, 01:48:24 PM
Michael Saunders signed

.253 with 24HR last year

Looks to be one year, $8 million.  Club option at $11 million for 2018, with a $1 million buyout.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on January 16, 2017, 08:33:27 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 16, 2017, 01:48:24 PM
Michael Saunders signed

.253 with 24HR last year

had the 19th-best OPS among outfielders last year and a respectable 1.3 WAR. bryce harper was 20th!

he was pretty dreadful the last 2-3 months of the year and his splits are confusing. hes better against lhp than rhp. didnt have to give up any picks for him and the deal is short term. could trade him at the deadline or keep him for another year.

means roman quinn will start in AAA. williams-goedell-quinn OF for lehigh.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 24, 2017, 03:08:20 PM
Severino Gonzalez dealt to Miami for cash or PTBNL
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on January 28, 2017, 08:38:13 PM
after 2 months of rookie ball, the mick is the 19th ranked prospect in baseball

Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on January 28, 2017, 08:39:19 PM
he stinks

jp stinks and is way better than the mick
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on January 28, 2017, 08:48:12 PM
yes all of the phillies prospects are awful and the nationals and mets and braves ones are amazing
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on January 28, 2017, 08:51:29 PM
dante exum
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on January 28, 2017, 08:53:29 PM
lucas giolito
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on January 28, 2017, 08:57:59 PM
HOF
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on January 28, 2017, 09:03:16 PM
given up on by the greatest franchise ever thats never won a playoff series
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on February 23, 2017, 02:09:59 PM
wall of fame ballot

https://securea.mlb.com/phi/fan_forum/wall-of-fame/index.jsp

heading to sugarhouse that weekend to play with pete
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 23, 2017, 02:18:45 PM
Bedrosian...one of the worst Cy Young winners ever? He was a good pitcher but never seemed like a Cy guy.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on February 23, 2017, 03:08:30 PM
the phillies need to realize that you dont have to put someone on the wall every year

that list is a joke
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Geowhizzer on February 23, 2017, 05:34:00 PM
I'm taking it you're not excited about voting for Placido Polanco?
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Sgt PSN on February 23, 2017, 10:04:50 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 23, 2017, 03:08:30 PM
the phillies need to realize that you dont have to put someone on the wall every year

that list is a joke

Yeah, it's not a very inspiring list at all.  Was saying the other day on FB that Rose probably shouldn't even be an option because he's really not a Phillie, but at the same time he's probably the best option out of everyone listed. 

He played here for 5 years out of 24.  He's a Red.  If he were allowed in the HOF, he'd be in there as a Red.  But he was an integral player (maybe even the difference maker) in the Phillies finally winning their first chip so that's why he's on the list. 

That list is really a testament of how historically awful this franchise has been. 
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on February 23, 2017, 10:06:51 PM
rose is a repug human and not a Phillie...he should be nowhere near a list much less the wall
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on February 23, 2017, 10:13:13 PM
they put thome in last year and he was on the phillies for 3 seconds

the thing is a farce
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: SD on February 23, 2017, 10:20:59 PM
I'd vote for Rolen just so the fans can boo him one last time

Igy head explosion
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 23, 2017, 10:42:20 PM
No write in option for Ricky Jordan
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on February 23, 2017, 10:48:34 PM
Quote from: MDS on February 23, 2017, 10:13:13 PM
they put thome in last year and he was on the phillies for 3 seconds

the thing is a farce

thome shouldn't have gotten on but at least he's a great human....rose is pure slime
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on February 23, 2017, 10:55:08 PM
jim bunning and steve carlton have their numbers retired

the bar aint high
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 23, 2017, 10:58:03 PM
Carlton shouldn't have his number retired?
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on February 23, 2017, 11:05:09 PM
talent wise sure, human wise uhhhh
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on February 24, 2017, 08:47:12 AM
carlton might have legitimate psychological problems and probably needs help...rose is a scheming calculating compulsive lying ego maniacal con man who also is an all time look test fail farging bowl cutted troll

that said i am not sure what steve carlton has to do with pete rose

also carlton is a true blue phillie....if rose was ghandi he shouldnt be on the wall....the fact that he is one of the grossest people ever makes it a no brainer

bottom line: if you are looking to get pete rose on or defend him getting on the phillies wall of fame i suggest rooting for a different team
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on February 24, 2017, 08:48:59 AM
The 80 team doesn't win without Rose.  I don't care if he raped Mother Theresa.  He's in.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on February 24, 2017, 09:12:54 AM
they wouldnt have won either world series without a lot of people that shouldnt be on the wall and who arent cretins
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on February 24, 2017, 09:23:07 AM
ROSE.  IS.  IN.

Get it thru your thinking farging skull, IGY. 
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on February 24, 2017, 09:38:02 AM
im pretty sure i never said he wouldnt or would get in so im not sure what you are arguing here

if you are saying you want him in then go root for tampa and make it an even zero philly teams you currently follow
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: smeags on February 24, 2017, 09:43:24 AM
Quote from: Rome on February 24, 2017, 09:23:07 AM
ROSE.  IS.  IN.

Get it thru your thinking farging skull, IGY.

you're off on this one dude.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on February 24, 2017, 10:01:05 AM
phils yanks game today is on mlbn
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on February 24, 2017, 10:35:29 AM
1. cesar - 2b
2. quinn - cf
3. daniel nava - dh
4. tj - 1b
5. coghlan - rf
6. the commish - lf
7. knapp - c
8. jp - ss
9. hector gomez - 3b

asher, pivetta, el garcia, burnett, cesar ramos, luis garcia
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on February 24, 2017, 11:01:52 AM
I really don't care either way.  I just like seeing Havas getting all riled up.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 24, 2017, 11:57:17 AM
lololol at "bowl cutted troll"
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on February 24, 2017, 02:35:30 PM
as terrible a human as pete is

1) hes good on tv largely because of the car crash element
2) i would love to sit a blackjack table with him and watch doubledown on a 13 against a 9 because hes a compulsive degenerate gambler
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on February 24, 2017, 04:40:32 PM
He's also the most prolific hitter in the history of the sport.  VORP that, bitches.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on February 24, 2017, 05:31:27 PM
high GRIT factor too
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 24, 2017, 05:36:27 PM
I always hope to run into him when I am in Vegas. He's usually at the Forum Shops in Caesars Palace but last trip they had Dick Butkus there.

lil guy needs to come to Vegas for March Madness so we ca find him at a blackjack table. Drunk Matty and Pete Rose at the same table? IN
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on February 24, 2017, 09:12:47 PM
im IN if you can get the OG to come
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on February 24, 2017, 09:46:48 PM
OG said he's only interested in a college football weekend

Let's make that happen in sept or oct
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on February 24, 2017, 09:54:19 PM
he should have been the trade yesterday without justin anderson in it
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on March 02, 2017, 03:49:27 PM
just baby steps but nice comeback showing for nola today
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 06, 2017, 08:55:13 PM
Jay would be thrilled!

CSN Philly:  Phils 10-1 to get Bryce Harper in 2019. (http://www.csnphilly.com/the700level/will-phillies-sign-bryce-harper-2019)
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 06, 2017, 09:20:43 PM
I'll go to opening day to boo him
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on March 06, 2017, 09:50:29 PM
you are worse than a pub talking shtein on trump then voting for everything he wants
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 06, 2017, 10:00:15 PM
boooooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on March 06, 2017, 10:04:28 PM
the phillies are never signing him....the odds are utterly pointless....but you will lose your mind with homer thoughts if it happened
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 06, 2017, 10:10:22 PM
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/hPPx8yk3Bmqys/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Diomedes on March 07, 2017, 11:46:35 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/fePUeia.gif)
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on March 07, 2017, 11:50:16 AM
Quote from: MDS on March 06, 2017, 10:04:28 PM
but you will lose your mind with homer thoughts if it happened

if being in love with the bedwetter doesnt prove that this is true then nothing does
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on March 07, 2017, 11:53:27 AM
That phanatic meme is beyond awesome.

#batflipperreprieve
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on March 07, 2017, 12:20:34 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 07, 2017, 11:50:16 AM
Quote from: MDS on March 06, 2017, 10:04:28 PM
but you will lose your mind with homer thoughts if it happened

if being in love with the bedwetter doesnt prove that this is true then nothing does

a cocky teenager with a dumb haircut and other worldly talent is so much worse than an above average qb with a horrible sense of humor and a grating, narcissistic personality
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 07, 2017, 12:43:35 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2015/0730/005_mag_body_Harper07_RW_1536x1845.jpg

for Havas & lil guy
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on March 07, 2017, 12:45:00 PM
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/14xeLXOh1zlK2A/200.webp#6)

(http://i.makeagif.com/media/8-15-2014/Bhc93u.gif)
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on March 07, 2017, 01:41:35 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 07, 2017, 12:43:35 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2015/0730/005_mag_body_Harper07_RW_1536x1845.jpg

for Havas & lil guy

he looks great...handsome young man and an insane body. do you know how much Hoyda he gets?
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: smeags on March 07, 2017, 02:20:16 PM
this is an awesome exchange.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 07, 2017, 02:48:34 PM
Quote from: MDS on March 07, 2017, 01:41:35 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 07, 2017, 12:43:35 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2015/0730/005_mag_body_Harper07_RW_1536x1845.jpg

for Havas & lil guy

he looks great...handsome young man and an insane body. do you know how much Hoyda he gets?

Sure...maybe he can get some kenzo skank when he signs here
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on March 07, 2017, 03:52:30 PM
jealously aint a good look on you young bull
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Sgt PSN on March 07, 2017, 04:07:29 PM
Harper is a supremely talented baseball player and one of the all-time biggest douchebags I've ever seen and I take pleasure in his infrequent failures on the field.

And if the Phillies signed him I'd swing harder from his junk than...than the homers do, beleive me.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on March 10, 2017, 10:50:19 AM
say hello to phillies legend and fat wop sal fasano

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6grxY8XMAE_YEO.jpg)
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 10, 2017, 05:21:10 PM
When's he going on the Phillies Wall of FameTM?
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 12, 2017, 01:58:33 PM
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/03/phillies-mariners-swap-joey-curletta-pat-venditte.html

Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Munson on March 22, 2017, 10:03:36 AM
Phils are one of the MLB teams doing the Game of Thrones cross promotional stuff

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7hxIQzVMAEf70_.jpg)
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: SD on March 22, 2017, 10:55:49 AM
Quote from: Munson on March 22, 2017, 10:03:36 AM
Phils are one of the MLB teams doing the Game of Thrones cross promotional stuff

[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7hxIQzVMAEf70_.jpg/[img]

cool image
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Munson on March 22, 2017, 11:05:40 AM
You're a cool image!
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on March 22, 2017, 06:49:44 PM
RIP Dallas Green

Edit - Phreak posted this in the DOA thread.  Update - Green is still dead. 
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: phattymatty on March 22, 2017, 07:40:15 PM
i just saw the name matt klentak for the first time ever.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 28, 2017, 03:54:20 PM
Alec Asher traded to Baltimore for a PTBNL
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on March 30, 2017, 07:22:25 PM
so they carried tyler goedell for the entire year because of rule 5....then dropped him for brock stassi today

in the grand scheme of things it doesnt matter but what the hell
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on March 31, 2017, 02:12:06 PM
looks like jimmys career is rip....he did not make the giants roster
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on March 31, 2017, 02:22:48 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3xz2BPbIqcqpFDKXsI/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on March 31, 2017, 02:32:37 PM
one of those bottles is also for choke....122 players had 20 or more home runs in the majors last year and just one of them is not on a team this year
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on March 31, 2017, 04:05:39 PM
just one of them hit 180 with 500 strikeouts while being unable to run and play the field
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: Rome on March 31, 2017, 04:39:18 PM
Look at Todd using facts to support his argument. 

* sniffs *

So proud!
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on March 31, 2017, 06:23:28 PM
anything against the two black guys makes grit look that much better
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on March 31, 2017, 07:35:57 PM
this is lehigh valleys outfield to start the year and it is bonkers

nick dub
cam perkins
quinntastic
cuzzo
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on March 31, 2017, 08:02:04 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 31, 2017, 06:23:28 PM
anything against the two black guys makes grit look that much better

nobody goes the soap box more than you to defend choke and jimmy

both were great but arent great anymore. no victim here. just father time.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on March 31, 2017, 08:08:47 PM
they were unfairly hated on when they were HOF and as if that wasnt enough hungry hungry hippos like you and romey now will pile on when they are done

but heidi and GRIT were the greatest things ever and will be til the day they die
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on March 31, 2017, 08:20:45 PM
i wasnt piling on i was merely taking away your baseless choke victim card
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on March 31, 2017, 08:23:05 PM
hes been a victim since day one because of this god forsaken fanbase....hes a legend but he had a big nose and dark skin so lets boo him cause he struck out a bunch of times in a 50-150 year
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on March 31, 2017, 08:23:44 PM
so because racists exist valid criticism of him is not allowed
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on March 31, 2017, 08:26:33 PM
if you need to reach and criticize him at age 35 after all hes done then you have an internal issue that needs looking at

i invented "choke" so dont tell me about criticism...i treat everyone equal
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on March 31, 2017, 08:37:38 PM
i hate black people so
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on March 31, 2017, 08:39:35 PM
you dont have to hate black people to like GRITty white people more....its the nerdy baseball soccer fan in you
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on March 31, 2017, 08:41:16 PM
my favorite all time phillie is jimmy

but im not really much of a favorite player athlete worshiper so its a pretty empty favorite
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on March 31, 2017, 08:45:32 PM
the bottom line is GRIT...jimmy and choke are all equals and should receive the same amount of praise and criticsm (well maybe jimmy slightly more praise) but unfortunately its...

GRIT




jimmy


















choke

and it makes me farging sick
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on March 31, 2017, 09:10:54 PM
yea i dont care

quick legit phils question: should they be in the jose quintana trade talks?

stay with me. the fop tier SP free agent class isnt really going to be strong until 2019/2020. there are some possible, potential trades in a few years for someone like gerritt cole....but in terms of acquiring a really good SP quintana is going to be it for a few years. if you dont get him, youre looking at an average at best rotation for the next 3 years unless VV somehow reaches his ceiling (he wont).

something to think about
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on March 31, 2017, 09:21:10 PM
none of them are worth the money if they are just going to be an overpaid 2 on a team not ready to win....they need to break the break for a pitcher when they are a wild card ish team looking to make the next step...you made all these trades and have sucked to get high picks for a reason....a process was started...ideally what happens is the young hitters blossom to where you have a playoff offense but need pitching and thats when you start opening the vault
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on March 31, 2017, 09:27:44 PM
yea ideally but its going to take upwards of 4 years to break the bank on a pitcher....there just isnt such a player available for a while and who knows if there will be. chris archer and gerritt cole could have their arms fall off or they could be traded elsewhere and sign with them before they hit the market

theres so much uncertainty between now and then. what is certain is a 28 year old budding ace is available. youre not ready to win now, of course, but he can help get you there quicker provided they hit on a few bats over the next year.
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on March 31, 2017, 09:34:00 PM
i just dont believe in having to compete with the yankees red sox angels nats etc. for an overpaid really good but not great pitcher until the rest of your roster is ready to win...unless its a 25/26 year old super stud....then fine back the trucks up...but the chances of someone like that hitting the market is slim to none
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on March 31, 2017, 09:37:44 PM
the good thing about baseball unlike most sports is that "ready to win" means a lot less....it just means you need to get in the playoffs...cause after that its mostly luck and situations
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on March 31, 2017, 09:39:46 PM
yea...i mean i thought archer was younger but hes already 28. so by the time he becomes a trade candidate hes 30.

cole is 26 and 2 years from FA. if the pirates fall apart a bit you might be able to swing a trade for him next year, provided he and his agent refuse an extension.

other than that all theyll be able to sign, pitching wise, is over-30 elite arms and under-30 mid rotation starters. what you need is sixto sanchez and kilome to be god damn good in A ball.

or go balls out on offense (machado, hosmer) and accept aaron nola as your game 1 starter
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: ice grillin you on March 31, 2017, 09:47:39 PM
yeah i think you gotta go all out for harper or machado...amazing that two studs that young might be available together....makes it more realistic that they might get one...i mean its not their fault but their rebuild has happened to garner mostly offensive guys so go balls deep on the hope it works....then work very good but not great pitching to compliment it and see what happens
Title: Re: Phils Offseason 16-17
Post by: MDS on March 31, 2017, 09:53:25 PM
right but if you get quintana without giving up: jp, alfaro, sanchez or kilome, id do it.

moniak is never going to step foot at cbp whether he winds up being good or not....get on with it