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Title: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: Rome on June 28, 2016, 08:17:42 AM
Dead at 82.

RIP
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: Rome on June 28, 2016, 08:19:48 AM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/16579465/former-nfl-coach-defensive-guru-buddy-ryan-dies-age-82
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: SD on June 28, 2016, 08:22:11 AM
Damn
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 28, 2016, 08:38:30 AM
Somebody check on Igy.

RIP, Buddy.  Thanks for some fun football.
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: SD on June 28, 2016, 08:40:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpWPKktFjlo
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: smeags on June 28, 2016, 08:49:22 AM
the house of pain game is still one of my all-time favorites. 
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 28, 2016, 09:08:29 AM
Quote from: smeags on June 28, 2016, 08:49:22 AM
the house of pain game is still one of my all-time favorites.

That was with Kotite, though.
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 28, 2016, 09:33:39 AM
Damn...RIP

That 30 for 30 about the 85 Bears was awesome because it showed how much his guys loved him.
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: smeags on June 28, 2016, 09:39:23 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 28, 2016, 09:08:29 AM
Quote from: smeags on June 28, 2016, 08:49:22 AM
the house of pain game is still one of my all-time favorites.

That was with Kotite, though.

doh ... for some reason I thought that was in '90. plus I try to blank kotite out of my mind as much as possible.
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: Rome on June 28, 2016, 09:47:25 AM
It may have been Kotex but it was Buddy's defense that destroyed the Skins that night. 
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: smeags on June 28, 2016, 09:55:11 AM
Quote from: Rome on June 28, 2016, 09:47:25 AM
It may have been Kotex but it was Buddy's defense that destroyed the Skins that night.

:paranoid
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 28, 2016, 10:29:25 AM
Quote from: smeags on June 28, 2016, 09:39:23 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 28, 2016, 09:08:29 AM
Quote from: smeags on June 28, 2016, 08:49:22 AM
the house of pain game is still one of my all-time favorites.

That was with Kotite, though.

doh ... for some reason I thought that was in '90. plus I try to blank kotite out of my mind as much as possible.

True.

Quote from: Rome on June 28, 2016, 09:47:25 AM
It may have been Kotex but it was Buddy's defense that destroyed the Skins that night. 

Also true.

Buddy has Reggie and Jerome and Dirty Waters with him in the Great Beyond.  The beginning of a hell of a defense.
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: QB Eagles on June 28, 2016, 10:29:31 AM
Thanks for the greatest Eagles defense I will ever see.
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: phattymatty on June 28, 2016, 10:31:54 AM
i sometimes watch him punch kevin gilbride when i'm feeling blue.
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: smeags on June 28, 2016, 10:34:00 AM
IMO buddy hit his peak as a DC, but no matter what you think of him as a HC, the man brought excitement and an intensity to this city that few ever have & ever will.
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: Rome on June 28, 2016, 11:48:54 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on June 28, 2016, 10:31:54 AM
i sometimes watch him punch kevin gilbride when i'm feeling blue.

Ha
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: smeags on June 28, 2016, 11:55:09 AM
buddy didn't pull any punches.
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: smeags on June 28, 2016, 12:19:33 PM
QuoteA life-long horseman, Buddy named one of his animals Fired For Winning, a jab directed at Norman Braman, who hired and fired Buddy. Buddy referred to him as "that guy in France." You could hear the snickers in the back of the class room where the cool kids sat.

Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: BigEd76 on June 28, 2016, 12:28:57 PM
Quotecriscarter80
Condolences to Rex, Rob, and the rest of the Ryan family. You saved my life with tough love.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmDFMzjWMAE_ymy.jpg)
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 28, 2016, 01:18:27 PM
Trying to figure out who else is in that pic...looks like a 52? Jesse Small?
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: smeags on June 28, 2016, 01:44:33 PM
probably all laughing about the sad running game the team had.
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 28, 2016, 01:53:33 PM
Heath Sherman FTW!
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: MDS on June 28, 2016, 06:34:18 PM

loser city remembers loser coach
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: Don Ho on June 28, 2016, 06:36:16 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 28, 2016, 08:38:30 AM
Somebody check on Igy.

Seriously, that was my first reaction.
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: Don Ho on June 28, 2016, 06:39:43 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 28, 2016, 01:18:27 PM
Trying to figure out who else is in that pic...looks like a 52? Jesse Small?

It looks like Todd Bell

(http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/pg-photo/2014/06/17/0ap2000000359385/neal-anderson-eric-allen-todd-bell_pg_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: Don Ho on June 28, 2016, 06:45:58 PM
With that defense, some pretty damn good WRs actually really good WRs, an all pro TE, an out of control QB who did enough to win, shame he was 0-3 in the playoffs.  The Rams playoff game and his last playoff game against the Racists were awful. 
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: Rome on June 28, 2016, 06:53:00 PM
That Redpotatoes game was one of the most disappointing I've ever been to and I've been to my fair share of zesty Eagles letdowns.
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 28, 2016, 07:11:27 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on June 28, 2016, 06:39:43 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 28, 2016, 01:18:27 PM
Trying to figure out who else is in that pic...looks like a 52? Jesse Small?

It looks like Todd Bell

(http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/pg-photo/2014/06/17/0ap2000000359385/neal-anderson-eric-allen-todd-bell_pg_600.jpg)

Good call. 52 before Small
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: BigEd76 on June 29, 2016, 12:35:53 AM
Apparently Buddy lied about his age and was actually 85
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: Don Ho on June 29, 2016, 12:50:09 AM
Quote from: Rome on June 28, 2016, 06:53:00 PM
That Redpotatoes game was one of the most disappointing I've ever been to and I've been to my fair share of zesty Eagles letdowns.

Randall playing like ass, zero offense, Jim McMahon experiment, Ben Smith TD called back, losing at home, seems like yesterday and it still sucks.
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: smeags on June 29, 2016, 08:06:36 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on June 29, 2016, 12:50:09 AM
Quote from: Rome on June 28, 2016, 06:53:00 PM
That Redpotatoes game was one of the most disappointing I've ever been to and I've been to my fair share of zesty Eagles letdowns.

Randall playing like ass, zero offense, Jim McMahon experiment, Ben Smith TD called back, losing at home, seems like yesterday and it still sucks.

yeah that game was tough ... kind of knew something was going to happen with ryan afterwards.
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: Rome on June 29, 2016, 08:22:07 AM
Braman is one of the all time pieces of shtein humans for firing Buddy but his conduct of the franchise after that was worse.  Letting Reggie, Clyde, Easy, and Seth walk, hiring Kotite instead of Jeff Fisher, the list goes on and on with that dickface.  Thank God his backing of Marco Rubio flamed out spectacularly.  For now. 
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: smeags on June 29, 2016, 10:13:54 AM
that was the last playoff game I went to with my dad. he passed his season tickets to me the following season.
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: smeags on June 29, 2016, 10:41:53 AM
Quote from: Rome on June 28, 2016, 11:48:54 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on June 28, 2016, 10:31:54 AM
i sometimes watch him punch kevin gilbride when i'm feeling blue.

Ha

is there any doubt where diehard got his inspiration ?

(http://www.tampabay.com/resources/images/dti/rendered/2009/10/c4s_ryan101609_89665a_8col.jpg)
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: MDS on June 29, 2016, 02:17:04 PM
Quote from: Rome on June 29, 2016, 08:22:07 AM
Braman is one of the all time pieces of shtein humans for firing Buddy

not arguing braman is a POS but buddy was a terrible head coach

the glorification of his tenure is totally absurd and very philadelphia....the dude had all the talent on the world and won 0 playoff games. he paid no attention to the offense. he did some great things off the field and was an all time lovable person, but during that era the washingtons, giants and dallas won 100 combined super bowls and his squad won zilch.

Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: smeags on June 29, 2016, 02:20:20 PM
ryan was not a terrible HC. that's asinine to say. certainly wasn't a great HC but his firing had "zilch" to do with the playoff record.
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: MDS on June 29, 2016, 03:14:46 PM
well it shouldve

you and i couldve won 8 games with all that talent they had....buddy was a great DC and a seemingly good evaluator of defensive talent but those are 2 of the 1000 skills needed to be a successful nfl coach. but he was great with the media!
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: Rome on June 29, 2016, 03:42:00 PM
His refusal to give a shtein about the offense did him in.  You can talk a world of shtein if you're winning but three straight one and dones in the playoffs is gonna get your ass fired. 
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: MDS on June 29, 2016, 03:47:52 PM
Quote from: Rome on June 29, 2016, 03:42:00 PM
His refusal to give a shtein about the offense did him in.  You can talk a world of shtein if you're winning but three straight one and dones in the playoffs is gonna get your ass fired.

marvin lewis says WUT UP

granted hes in cincinnati, which couldnt care less about sports, but you can survive. buddy antagonizing the owner, no matter how big a cheap republican twat he was, combined his inability to accomplish anything despite an abundance of talent warranted a firing. the subsequent hiring of one richard kotite, was perhaps not the best reaction to said transaction.
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: smeags on June 29, 2016, 04:23:29 PM
Quote from: MDS on June 29, 2016, 03:47:52 PM
Quote from: Rome on June 29, 2016, 03:42:00 PM
His refusal to give a shtein about the offense did him in.  You can talk a world of shtein if you're winning but three straight one and dones in the playoffs is gonna get your ass fired.

buddy antagonizing the owner,

this more than anything else, by far, was the reason he got fired. braman didn't give two fargs about winning. all that mattered was the dollar. after buddy he cleaned out the payroll and sold the team.

again. I wasn't a ryan fan, nor am I saying buddy didn't deserve to be canned, just that the 0-3 playoff record didn't mean crap to that POS owner.
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: Rome on June 29, 2016, 04:54:52 PM
Bull farging shtein. If Buddy won a Super Bowl he would have had a lifetime contract. 
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: Don Ho on June 29, 2016, 05:16:28 PM
Buddy also had a brain fart as a QB.  I loved Randall but he was allowed to do whatever the hell he wanted to do.  That's ok if you're Brady, Elway, Montana, Manning (pre invalid days), even Russell Wilson.  Heard Jim McMahon on Dan Patrick years ago talking about playing with Buddy in Philly and he said "the real problem was we had a starting QB who wouldn't listen to anybody but himself".
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: smeags on June 30, 2016, 08:29:23 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on June 29, 2016, 05:16:28 PM
Buddy also had a brain fart as a QB.  I loved Randall but he was allowed to do whatever the hell he wanted to do.  That's ok if you're Brady, Elway, Montana, Manning (pre invalid days), even Russell Wilson.  Heard Jim McMahon on Dan Patrick years ago talking about playing with Buddy in Philly and he said "the real problem was we had a starting QB who wouldn't listen to anybody but himself".

"let me, be me"
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: Don Ho on June 30, 2016, 04:18:46 PM
My all time favorite Buddy quote:

Quote
Ryan allegedly put a bounty on Cowboys kicker Luis Zendejas and quarterback Troy Aikman. After the Eagles won, 27-0, Cowboys coach Jimmy Johnson fumed: "I have absolutely no respect for the way they played the game. I would have said something to Buddy, but he wouldn't stand on the field long enough. He put his big, fat rear end into the dressing room."

Buddy's reply: "I resent that. I've been on a diet, I lost a couple of pounds, and I thought I was looking good."
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: ice grillin you on May 29, 2020, 12:34:04 PM
https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/ray-didinger-recalls-the-house-of-pain-game
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: SD on May 29, 2020, 12:43:58 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 29, 2020, 12:34:04 PM
https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/ray-didinger-recalls-the-house-of-pain-game

Crazy that Joyner had a 102 temp going into the game. I'm glad the article highlighted him because to this day I've never seen a more dominant defensive performance from a player.
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: Eagaholic on May 29, 2020, 03:22:05 PM
Joyner played out of his mind no doubt, amazing what packing on 25lbs of muscle with roids can do. Defense was even more impressive that game considering that they were playing against Mike Munchak and Bruce Matthews, two HOFs in their prime. Matthews might arguably be the greatest Olineman ever.
Title: Re: Buddy Ryan - Pour One Out
Post by: Don Ho on May 31, 2020, 05:58:15 AM
Seth was a complete beast that night.  One of my all time favorites.  He finally got his Super Bowl ring albeit as a backup for the Broncos.