As the Green Bay resident... Let the game thread begin.
Packers can't run so far. They have a rookie Brandon Jackson, a dinged up Vernon Morency of Texans fame, and Huggy Bear's son Noah Herron. Their zone-blocking scheme is in it's 2nd year. The O-line coach Jagazynski* left to coach BC, so the resident staff is not even high on zone-blocking, but they are stuck with it.
Driver is coming off an injury (foot) maybe, James Jones (R) has been a standout in camp, looks to be the other guy. Then there is the aging Franks at TE.
The D is supposed to be their calling card this year. The locals seem to think it will be a top-five D. Woodson, Hawk, Harris, Barnett, Kampman, KGB, etc.
Jumping the gun a bit, don't you think?
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 31, 2007, 12:18:37 PM
Jumping the gun a bit, don't you think?
He, be glad we can finally discuss a meaningful (read: regular season) game rather than the toss-ups that are part of the pre season.
I have no idea what to expect. To my surprise, I will be able to see the game over here. It is on delay (mo and tu) and I'll have to tape it, (first broadcast is while I'll have to be at work, the second while I have classes) but I never expected to be able to see the Eagles this early in the season. I just hope it will be better than the horror that was last year's Gints-Eagles game (the first game shown over here).
Why not just start the 15 other gameday threads, too?
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on August 31, 2007, 01:22:53 PM
Why not just start the 15 other gameday threads, too?
Can I get a farg dallas?
One of my coworkers has a huge birthmark/mole inside his ear and every time I talk to him I can't stop staring at it. I want to reach inside his ear and rip the farger out and I'm not sure how much longer I can hold out.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 31, 2007, 01:43:33 PM
One of my coworkers has a huge birthmark/mole inside his ear and every time I talk to him I can't stop staring at it. I want to reach inside his ear and rip the farger out and I'm not sure how much longer I can hold out.
I feel the same way about the birthmark on Brett Favre's penis.
I think the Eagles will score 4 points. With no safeties.
I hope Randall doesn't break his leg again.
Anyone start a divisional playoff game thread yet?
I'm happy to see this thread... I was thinking about starting a "Eagles Offseason 2019" thread, but I didn't want to be too early. I guess now I don't have to worry about that.
Map of who's getting the game (http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/2007-01-FOX1.html)
Kenny Albert / Daryl Johnston / Tony Siragusa
(Stockton is paired with Baldinger)
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 03, 2007, 10:28:45 PM
Map of who's getting the game (http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/2007-01-FOX1.html)
Kenny Albert / Daryl Johnston / Tony Siragusa
(Stockton is paired with Baldinger)
wtf?
NY state gets game but they exclude NYC.
im going to have to watch it or try to watch it on sopcast.
The Jets have a home game on CBS at that time. Same reason why it's not on in Washington either...
Philly also gets:
1 CBS- Pats/Jets (Nantz, Simms)
4 Fox- Bears/Chargers (Buck, Aikman)
swell, we get that fat ass siragusa. he'll have his head so far up Favre's ass.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 04, 2007, 05:01:58 AM
swell, we get that fat ass siragusa. he'll have his head so far up Favre's ass.
Actually, I was thinking he'll probably find a way to suckle on the teets of the Saints again.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 03, 2007, 10:28:45 PM
Map of who's getting the game (http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/2007-01-FOX1.html)
Kenny Albert / Daryl Johnston / Tony Siragusa
(Stockton is paired with Baldinger)
We get the game on delay over here (on monday 19:00 local time (as live) and tuesday 16:30 local (commercials cut out)). Sunday is AFC day, apparently.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 03, 2007, 10:28:45 PM
Map of who's getting the game (http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/2007-01-FOX1.html)
Kenny Albert / Daryl Johnston / Tony Siragusa
(Stockton is paired with Baldinger)
farg, I'm right on the border in Western NY. Guess I'll have to wait until Saturday or so to find out.
Am I the only person who isn't at all confident going into play the normally easy to push over Packers? They may have a running game again, their defense looks to be the real deal. The Eagles on the other hand appear as pass happy as ever, and the defense looks like it could be total shtein all season.
I'm not confident in this game at all. My biggest concern is that the Green Bay defense should be very good this year. Right behind that is the fact that the Eagles' defense has looked like open, gaping ass thus far. I'm not counting this as an assumed win by any stretch.
i'm the same way, but for the exact reason, i'm not worried about the Eagles scoring, but i am worried about the Packers running the ball, keeping the ball away from the Eagles and keeping the game close.
i don't see a a blowout and i wouldn't be shocked if they lose. that being said, i think they win.
Quote from: SunMo on September 04, 2007, 12:18:36 PM
i'm the same way, but for the exact reason, i'm not worried about the Eagles scoring, but i am worried about the Packers running the ball, keeping the ball away from the Eagles and keeping the game close.
i don't see a a blowout and i wouldn't be shocked if they lose. that being said, i think they win.
thanks for the insight Negrodomous
dude, i'm asian
Quote from: SunMo on September 04, 2007, 12:22:39 PM
dude, i'm asian
so you got sucked into this board looking for the asian porn then
i provided 90% of it
Quote from: PPinDC on September 04, 2007, 12:08:18 PMAm I the only person who isn't at all confident going into play the normally easy to push over Packers?
Not worried at all. Andy always gets his teams motivated for week 1 :paranoid
We have to hope for these events--
1. It's NOT a repeat of the 2000 game--where the Birds lost in sloppy conditions 6-3
2. It's NOT a repeat of the last Eagles-Packers opener--the one where Randall was lost for the season some 16 years ago
3. It IS a repeat of the previous five Packers-Eagles games--where the Pack has averaged 14 points a game
"Eagles - Packers Week"
tomorrow we break down the long snapping matchup!
for some reason im always nervous before every and any game. i mean its a game we should def win and have no reason to lose but im nervous.
aside from that, GB def is not a pushover of years past. their D will be solid and if favre has fluke game (he has one of these once in a while now) our D can be in real trouble.
lets hope driver is not healthy and favre plays thinking its a game of madden.
i predict:
eagles-17
packers-10
Always concerned. Especially since GB has improved, but also because all the sport rags have declared the Eagles are improved for last year, while we all think they are equal to worse off than last season.
Even so:
Philly: 31
GB: 21
I have feeling we lose by a field goal or a touchdown. Not a blowout but one of those games that we could win but we don't because it's Andy Reid's fault. :)
31-13 eagles.
Birds kick the crap out of em.
A big ol butt whoopin in GB 34-13
$20,000 in doctor's bills says, yes
I don't know what to think about this game yet.
I'm sure the offense will come out firing. I don't worry about that.
I worry about the defense.
31-24 Birds.
You're all a bunch of homers. Banner's sack is wet enough.
3,000-3 Packers.
Gold. Standard.
I'll go with Mini-Ditka.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 04, 2007, 12:38:27 PM
Not worried at all. Andy always gets his teams motivated for week 1 :paranoid
This is really the only thing that worries me going into this game.
I know everyone likes to say that GB's D is much improved, but I'll believe it when I see it. I think the Eagles can score more than enough on them to win the game. I also think that the Eagles' D is not as good or as bad as it has looked at times this preseason.
Driver's shoulder and ankle supposedly still ain't right so who knows how effective he'll be and he's really the only one that concerns me on their offense.
Eagles - 27
Packers - 17
I'm not feeling great about the Eagles run D against anyone.
this might be the only game all year where the eagles defense has an advantage at the line of scrimmage...pack oline specifically the interior of it is terrible
i think the eagles will win fairly easily...this game is almost a mirror image of last years opener
24-10?
If the Birds come out fast it will be an easier road. The Lambeau faithfull need to get taken out early, or every 3rd down will be nuts. That stadium will echo with like 20 people yelling in it. No huddle and silent snap counts will be huge, IMO.
r diddy is on wip right now and he thinks the eagles will lose this week
he is just destroying the defense....said he watched the films and it was amazing how out of position so many of the younger guys were and that they just dont know what they are doing....and that a lot of it is (surprise) that they have guys playing out of position
not much stuff we didnt already know but it hits home when the gawd diddy says it
*cue someone calling diddy a hater now
I had a dream lastnight our run D was torched and we lost this game 24-17 - I'll stick with that as a prediction
I'll bite - My memory is that Ray is excellent at post-game analysis, but terrible at predictions. I still can't get over the fact that he thought that Cade McNown was the top QB coming out of the '99 draft.
Still - doesn't change the fact that the Eagles D sucks. Let's hope Favre has one of his 6 int "chuck it up and see what happens" performances.
i have Brandon Jackson in several leagues so that wouldn't be all bad
I think the Eagles should come out strong in this game. McNabb will be eager to show what he can do and I think the defense has heard the criticism and will respond. The Packers O-line isn't great and Brandon Jackson is banged up and the Pack is showing Morency as #1 on the depth chart. The Packers aura of home field advantage is gone.
31-17 Birds.
pack already announced jackson is the starter
i think the eagles will win...but i have a big concern with the injuries...who really believes andrews is gonna finish the game...this is dawks first real game since his injury...sick ward kearse is hurt again...is howard ever healthy?...lj is no good
i think that is the real story...what is the injury report gonna look like after the game
Quote from: SunMo on September 06, 2007, 08:53:48 AM
i have Brandon Jackson in several leagues so that wouldn't be all bad
I keep waffling on whether to start him or Adrian Peterson in Rusty's league.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 06, 2007, 09:14:49 AM
pack already announced jackson is the starter
i think the eagles will win...but i have a big concern with the injuries...who really believes andrews is gonna finish the game...this is dawks first real game since his injury...sick ward kearse is hurt again...is howard ever healthy?...lj is no good
i think that is the real story...what is the injury report gonna look like after the game
At least we still have the Phillies.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 06, 2007, 09:15:53 AM
Quote from: SunMo on September 06, 2007, 08:53:48 AM
i have Brandon Jackson in several leagues so that wouldn't be all bad
I keep waffling on whether to start him or Adrian Peterson in Rusty's league.
stop waffling, start peterson
In whom do we have more confidence to hold a big lead?
1. The Phillies bullpen
2. The Eagles playing a "soft zone" D
Let's put it this way: I have no confidence in the Eagles even GETTING a big lead anymore because doing so would require the defense to actually stop the opposing team repeatedly. I just don't see that happening very often this year.
The defense is teetering on disaster with a combination of old fargers past their prime, younger veterans who are dreadfully overrated, and new starters who are either completely clueless or playing out of position.
I might be wrong (and I seriously hope to God I am) or maybe it's just a case of raging pessimism on my part but this season has catastrophe written all over it.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 06, 2007, 09:15:53 AM
Quote from: SunMo on September 06, 2007, 08:53:48 AM
i have Brandon Jackson in several leagues so that wouldn't be all bad
I keep waffling on whether to start him or Adrian Peterson in Rusty's league.
Hahahah, Your team is awful.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 06, 2007, 10:33:00 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 06, 2007, 09:15:53 AM
Quote from: SunMo on September 06, 2007, 08:53:48 AM
i have Brandon Jackson in several leagues so that wouldn't be all bad
I keep waffling on whether to start him or Adrian Peterson in Rusty's league.
Hahahah, Your team is awful.
You'll be singing a different tune when Shanahan begins platooning Travis Henry with Selvin Young.
No.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 06, 2007, 09:23:40 AM
In whom do we have more confidence to hold a big lead?
1. The Phillies bullpen
2. The Eagles playing a "soft zone" D
The Eagles D by a longshot, but it's an indication that things are
bad when comparing them to that Philth bullpen is even a legitimate question.
While I don't think this season will be the disaster some think, I don't feel good about this team during the early part of the season. I think the Eagles lose this one & bounce back and pull their shtein together to embarass the Skins.
Packers 28
Eagles 14
McNabb's last 4 starts (including playoffs) against the Packers:
4-0
58.7 Comp. %
299.5 YPG
10TD's, 0 INT
21 rush, 190 yds 3TD's
The Packers have also lost 4 consecutive home openers.
The Eagles get all up in that ass this sunday.
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 06, 2007, 01:52:46 PM
The Eagles get all up in that ass this sunday.
Let's just hope they don't get off to a slow start. That would just set the wrong tone for the season. This offense can be explosive and I expect Curtis to be a big contributor.
Quote from: hbionic on September 06, 2007, 01:56:41 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 06, 2007, 01:52:46 PM
The Eagles get all up in that ass this sunday.
Let's just hope they don't get off to a slow start. That would just set the wrong tone for the season. This offense can be explosive and I expect Curtis to be a big contributor.
they got off to a fast start last season too...did not really matter much. and this year the defense is even weaker.
i see them winning this game but the game itself not being any indication of the season ahead. with a weak D, if reid does not stick to running the ball the season is going to be a disaster no matter what happens in this game.
I think the Eagles win easily against Green Bay, but I might not be able to enjoy it through the Favre slobberfest that will occur throughout...
easy where is the god damn television map johnson
On the 1st page of this thread.
thanks buddy
The season hasn't even started and I'm already sick of listening to all the Farve slurpping. One more win and he ties the QB record for wins. Eagles win this game. Therefore I am torn. Would I prefer that this be the first lose in a Packers 0-16 season or the Eagles take him out and end his career.
OK, I've decided. Eagles end his career. On his very first pass attempt would be the absolute ultimate.
However, if there was any possibility that he could have to suffer through an 0-16 season.....
This site's hatred of Favre borders on the pathological. Weirdos.
For me, I hate him because of the amount of press he gets. And just not the amount, but the type. Like he's Jesus Christ or something.
And for the retirement charades.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 06, 2007, 08:07:07 PM
This site's hatred of Favre borders on the pathological. Weirdos.
You do realize that in a wierd sort of way, when you call people on this board wierdos, you are actually complimenting thier sanity, correct?
shut up
This is gay! Now we have to scroll through 5 pages of shtein to get to actual game material.
the game didn't start yet dummy, and i'm pretty sure a real game thread will be started on Sunday
Quote from: SunMo on September 06, 2007, 09:57:18 PM
the game didn't start yet dummy, and i'm pretty sure a real game thread will be started on Sunday
by me....with the whole WHO WILL PROTECT THIS HOUSE....pre game speech even though its a road game.
Quote from: Eagles 3x on September 06, 2007, 08:33:43 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 06, 2007, 08:07:07 PM
This site's hatred of Favre borders on the pathological. Weirdos.
You do realize that in a wierd sort of way, when you call people on this board wierdos, you are actually complimenting thier sanity, correct?
What I realize is that in a weird sort of way my ballhair is in your throat.
It would not be weird though if his throat hair was on your balls. Totally normal.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 06, 2007, 08:07:07 PM
This site's hatred of Favre borders on the pathological. Weirdos.
Oprah says hello.
Comparing Oprah's pompous ass to Favre's pompous ass is PREPOSTEROUS! At least Favre likes teh drugs.
this sites problem is not so much favre...tho there is more than his fair share of hate
the sites obsession is with the media...ive never in my life seen people get so upset over what the media has to say
and the boards response to a positive media report for the eagles vs a negative one is hilarious
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 07, 2007, 09:42:10 AM
and the boards response to a positive media report for the eagles vs a negative one is hilarious
Obviously, when it's positive, which is rare, they're correct. When it's negative, they're buffoons.
For instance, Peter King picked the Packers over the Eagles, 20-17.
i cant believe how many people are picking the packers this week...its rather staggering
this will be one game where its gonna feel good to be right
I can't blame them. I just love the way that Brett Favre plays the game. He's a good ol-fashioned gunslinger!
a friend told me some analyst on espn said the eagles will be go undefeated till nov 25th or that they can.
not sure who but basically all these "experts" in the media are idiots. its not even really thier fault in the sense that they cant go in depth and study each time like say we would our fav teams. its not the media i care about but its really unbareable when watching a packers game and all they ever talk about is favre.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 07, 2007, 10:32:21 AM
its not even really thier fault in the sense that they cant go in depth and study each time like say we would our fav teams.
yeah before people bust a lid they need to understand that sean salisbury is not talking to joey in fishtown...hes talking to carl in billings
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 07, 2007, 09:42:10 AM
the sites obsession is with the media...ive never in my life seen people get so upset over what the media has to say
Because media caters to the lowest commen denominator for ratings which turns out to be very popular. Being antisocial means I rail against anything popular. Can't help myself though I don't have it as bad as Dio but who does.
If your saying that Madden blubbering on and on about Favre and his awesome hot wing recipe doesn't annoy at all then carry on with the contrary talk...
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 07, 2007, 10:42:43 AM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 07, 2007, 10:32:21 AM
its not even really thier fault in the sense that they cant go in depth and study each time like say we would our fav teams.
yeah before people bust a lid they need to understand that sean salisbury is not talking to joey in fishtown...hes talking to carl in billings
i hate salisbury for other reasons. he is the epitome of hyperbole. he is on a new bandwagon each week and predicting doom for another. every player who has a amazing sunday/monday game is all of a sudden the best...which of course changes the next week.
The only media member I like is Merril Hoge.
nm
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 07, 2007, 09:42:10 AM
and the boards response to a positive media report for the eagles vs a negative one is hilarious
igy speaks da troof.
as long as Pago is playing, things will be fine. ayyrrighhtt!
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 07, 2007, 09:47:19 AM
[For instance, Peter King picked the Packers over the Eagles, 20-17.
the same genius who two weeks in SI said Byron Leftwhich has never looked better and will have a huge year for the jaguars. farg him.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/fredmt/osamacheese.gif)
Nice. :-D
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 07, 2007, 09:42:10 AM
this sites problem is not so much favre...tho there is more than his fair share of hate
the sites obsession is with the media...ive never in my life seen people get so upset over what the media has to say
and the boards response to a positive media report for the eagles vs a negative one is hilarious
Aren't you the same guy who was driven to tears over an article written in the Washington Post about the demise of a television show?
Jesus, IGY... :-D
Quote from: rjs246 on September 07, 2007, 09:25:08 AM
Comparing Oprah's pompous ass to Favre's pompous ass is PREPOSTEROUS! At least Favre likes teh drugs.
Just pointing out that Oprah was addicted to crack in the early 80s.
Crack whore.
L.J. Smith was just downgraded to questionable for the game.
Isn't that just farging fantastic?
Completely unexpected too especially considering he just had groin surgery.
Stow it.
Line on Brent Celek - 4 catches, 65 yards, 1 TD
So you're saying Brent Celek is your new tight end?
Hott.
Ray Diddy's prediction:
Pack 20
Eagles 17
lol
RDiddy's been sharing VHeb's stash.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 08, 2007, 02:33:12 PM
lol
RDiddy's been sharing VHeb's stash.
As far as football goes, its:
Ray Diddy > Everyone else
Sure, but that doesn't mean he's right.
The Favre's will not win this game.
Boys have a penis
LJ Smith has a vagina
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 08, 2007, 11:44:00 AM
L.J. Smith was just downgraded to questionable for the game.
Obviously the FO is already taking him off the field as punishment for being uppity.
With that O line and Brandon Jackson?! I just can't bring myself to think they'll lose this game. One-dimensional Favre = 3 picks.
Birds win a stinker.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on September 08, 2007, 07:28:16 PM
With that O line and Brandon Jackson?! I just can't bring myself to think they'll lose this game. One-dimensional Favre = 3 picks.
Birds win a stinker.
Yeah, Brandon Jackson sure is awful. It isn't like he had the best vision in the draft, was a 2nd round pick, and is a perfect fit for their zone blocking..
Quote from: Dillen on September 08, 2007, 07:42:17 PM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on September 08, 2007, 07:28:16 PM
With that O line and Brandon Jackson?! I just can't bring myself to think they'll lose this game. One-dimensional Favre = 3 picks.
Birds win a stinker.
Yeah, Brandon Jackson sure is awful. It isn't like he had the best vision in the draft, was a 2nd round pick, and is a perfect fit for their zone blocking..
I second that sarcasm.
i wouldnt put it past this defense to make him look like a super star.
i wont be able to sleep tonight cause of the anticipation and if they lose tomorrow i wont be able to sleep tomorrow nigth either.
Still a rookie. I'd think the blocking will be a bigger issue than the running, but come on, this guy couldn't beat out Vernand Morency for the starting job.
That being said, the Birds made James Mungro look like a superstar once too. :paranoid
Lot's of fun.
Eagles 27
Homosexuals of Fag 13
wow have another hatemonger
Just say you love me already and cut playing hard to get
i will tell you i hate you as i put on my steel anal chastity belt
You on the downlow, brother? You send me some coded PM about internet use as a means for searching for sweet loving, but won't come out and say it. Not now, little man, not now.
lol
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sk9XfwISi80 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=sk9XfwISi80)
Yeehaw start the season. fargers.
damn, i got to get to bed! 7:00 AM kickoff HST. Start brewing the coffee baby.
(http://assets.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photo/thumbs/20427.JPG)
The expression on McPherson's face says it all.
Unfortunately, I'll miss this game entirely because I'll be on a greyhound bus going home from a wedding. Stupid weddings.
Hoge picked the Packers to win.
Please someone pick my jaw up off the floor.
Quote from: MDS on September 09, 2007, 03:08:18 AM
You send me some coded PM about internet use
Lest you feel special, the whore sent it to just about everyone who was trolling the boards at the time.
IGY will take his CF cybering anyway he can get it. Shameful really.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 09, 2007, 08:43:38 AM
Unfortunately, I'll miss this game entirely because I'll be on a greyhound bus going home from a wedding. Stupid weddings.
It's a better excuse than a standard errand.
Quote from: PPinDC on September 09, 2007, 09:25:42 AM
Quote from: MDS on September 09, 2007, 03:08:18 AM
You send me some coded PM about internet use
Lest you feel special, the whore sent it to just about everyone who was trolling the boards at the time.
IGY will take his CF cybering anyway he can get it. Shameful really.
ha, i'm the one that saved his "Faux Marriage" :-D and i thought i was special
I just got a am/fm radio thing for like six bucks. It will help me fit in on the ghetto train, and I might even catch some espn radio updates
LJ was cleared to play by the medical staff.
sop cast and tvu...one of these better work good for me.
anyone watching the espn show? they showed some nike commercial for stephen jackson...pretty cool commercial.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 09, 2007, 11:43:07 AM
LJ was cleared to play by the medical staff.
Part of me wants him to sit since he hasn't suited up in a while and it'll give us a chance to see more of Celek
WR Jennings is inactive for the Pack today
Kolb is #2
AJ emergency.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 09, 2007, 11:45:42 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 09, 2007, 11:43:07 AM
LJ was cleared to play by the medical staff.
Part of me wants him to sit since he hasn't suited up in a while and it'll give us a chance to see more of Celek
WR Jennings is inactive for the Pack today
isnt driver banged up also?
Driver has a sprained ankle/foot but is ready to go.
Ready to go down in the first quarter.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 09, 2007, 09:45:06 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 09, 2007, 08:43:38 AM
Unfortunately, I'll miss this game entirely because I'll be on a greyhound bus going home from a wedding. Stupid weddings.
It's a better excuse than a standard errand.
Hey man, errands are pretty fargin important. And weddings fargin suck. You got your priorities farged.
Inactive:
CB Nick Graham
LB Pago Togafau
G Max Jean-Gilles
T Pat McCoy
G Scott Young
DT LaJuan Ramsey
DE Victor Abiamiri
QuoteEagles-Packers Inactives
September 9, 2007 | Last Updated: 9/9/07 10:48 AM ET | Comments (0)
By: CHRIS McPHERSON
Tight end L.J. Smith was active for Sunday's season opener against the Green Bay Packers. The Packers, meanwhile, were without the services of starting wide receiver Greg Jennings.
Smith did not play in the entire preseason because of a groin injury suffered at training camp. He was listed as probable on the injury report on Friday after he practiced all week, but after the team's walk-through on Saturday he was downgraded to questionable. Smith worked out in the pre-game warm-ups and believed that he was ready to go.
Jennings suffered a hamstring injury during the week and was limited in practice. Rookie Greg Jones started in Jennings' spot.
Also inactive for the Eagles were quarterback A.J. Feeley (third quarterback), cornerback Nick Graham, linebacker Pago Togafau, guard Max Jean-Gilles, tackle Pat McCoy, guard Scott Young, defensive tackle LaJuan Ramsey and defensive end Victor Abiamiri.
I guess Cole won the backup OG audition. Sort of a surprise since I didn't think he played all that well - guess they took into consideration the fact that he can play C too.
so Nick Cole is the backup guard?
Look who's not on the list....Winston Justice!
yay
Is Reno Mahe playing?
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 09, 2007, 11:44:13 AM
sop cast and tvu...one of these better work good for me.
anyone watching the espn show? they showed some nike commercial for stephen jackson...pretty cool commercial.
That was a cool commercial. Merriman was featured, too..
you'd think they'd shy away from a steroid guy, at least for a little while...
Quote from: Diomedes on September 09, 2007, 12:07:10 PM
you'd think they'd shy away from a steroid guy, at least for a little while...
even though he has that sexy man dance?
dances farging suck
except on Indian reservations.
great spirit holla
T minus 30 minutes!
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 09, 2007, 12:31:15 PM
T minus 30 minutes!
:crazy :crazy :crazy :crazy :crazy :crazy :crazy :crazy :crazy
for those of us looking to use tvu or sopcast...i just opened the tvu player and its picking up the las vegas fox feed so it will be showing the eagles packers game.
sopcast is still offline on the 2 channels set to show the game. i guess 2 channels cause one will be the philly feed and the other the gb feed.
tvu is good but its on a full 2 min delay from real time. i hope socast kicks in and has a better feed.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 09, 2007, 12:31:15 PM
T minus 30 minutes!
It is time to unleash the dogs of war, go forth into battle, and claim our prize
five minutes until I have to leavt for the metro north train to make the connection to the grey hound bus
yay!
Sounds like fun
Quote from: Wingspan on September 09, 2007, 12:39:44 PM
Sounds like fun
I'm already half in the bag, I've got three yuenglings packed with a nice ham sammich, some pot brownies, and a six dollar am/fm radio.
what could be better?
Time is here......ladies and gentlemen it's time to get it on!!!!!!
It's time: GO EAGLES!
sopcast kicked in...not on as much of a delay. quality about the same.
GO EAGLES!
Go JR
Reed didn't look that fast but he came damn close to breaking that
Nice return Reed
2nd offensive play of the game and they call a flea flicker? Genius
Die Favre
Awesome first drive. -10 yards.
nice farging playcalling....jesus christ
Glew hurt....Bloom resigned?
Running game looks stellar
Wow.
Three farging passes to start the game.
Awesome farging choice not getting a real returner. farging morons.
I've got a bad, bad feeling about this game, and McNabb's chances of making it past the sixth game of the season.
unreal
This is why I wanted GLew to be cut.
Well THAT sucked.
Um a fair catch? Lewis has AIDS.
Bring back Bloom
Fire Reid.
Quote from: MDS on September 09, 2007, 01:15:58 PM
Um a fair catch? Lewis has AIDS.
When I was watching the punt, I thought he HAD to have called a fair catch. Apparently not.
Kill him now.
next yr lets try a swimmer at kick returner.
and a WR at G Lewis.
At least Westbrook doesn't suck.
Mr. Johnson? Andy Reid on line 1.
OMG look what happens when you run the ball! first downs!
Penalties rule.
At least McNabb proved there he's still strong enough to shrug off someone tryin to sack him.
RUn the farging ball icehole.
I just cringed big time when they grabbed Donovan. RUN THE BALL!
Aren't you all amazed how Favre's leadership led to the Packer's Special Teams touchdown?
Didn't even take Reid 4 minutes into the season to misuse his first time out.
They just look so off on offence
Yay for clock management.
Uh oh the bad Eagles showed up today. And there's the wasted timeout!
Typical Eagles start:
Burn TO to avoid DOG
Penalties, Penalties, Penalties
Stupid turnover
Are you farging serious? Peace guys.
If the game keeps going like this, even Spew won't be able to find any positives.
What a start
Anyone still think there's no chance of Green Bay winning?
We got a call
hahahahahahaha. I love how the ref just explained that.
The clock hit zero before the snap, why wasn't that a delay of game?
does the defense look good or do the packers just suck?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 09, 2007, 01:29:11 PM
The clock hit zero before the snap, why wasn't that a delay of game?
HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE ALMIGHTY FAVRE!
53 yarder and of course he hits it
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 09, 2007, 01:29:11 PM
The clock hit zero before the snap, why wasn't that a delay of game?
The unwritten rule is that the refs will give a full second to get the snap off once the clock hits zero before they blow the whistle. Plus, they're not allowed to call penalties against Favre.
I <3 Brett Favre
Another penalty? I've never seen the Eagles this sloppy. This is pitiful.
Reed looks strong in the return game. More penalties though sets them back.
15 yard PF. Awesome. These penalties are Awesome.
Quote from: MDS on September 09, 2007, 01:29:53 PM
does the defense look good or do the packers just suck?
packers have dropped like 2-3 balls and sheldon brown was all over driver on that pass attempt. a lil of both but yeah 10-0...beautiful start.
Way to fall down a yard short of the first down, LJ.
5 yards for a first, run a 3 yard route. Awesome.
Short. Great another 3 and out and punt. Maybe the Defense will score
Good punt coverage there. Not Rocca's best punt, but that might have helped the coverage actually.
R0CC@Z!!!!
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 09, 2007, 01:36:42 PM
R0CC0Z
How pathetic is it that the punter is probably the team's best player on the field to this point?
He'd be the biggest linebacker.
Quote from: Munson on September 09, 2007, 01:37:50 PM
He'd be the biggest linebacker.
He'd be better than Gocong anyway.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 09, 2007, 01:37:21 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 09, 2007, 01:36:42 PM
R0CC0Z
How pathetic is it that the punter is probably the team's best player on the field to this point?
The Thunder from Down Under!
I may have to tone it down here. My son is asking "Why is Daddy so angry?"
Stupid pathetic team.
Hey, it's the zesty run D! I've been wondering where that was.
Looked like the Eagels were waving the white towel.
SHELDON!
At least Sheldon came to play today.
Nice play Sheldon
Nice throw Brett
Happy Scrappy makes Farve look like Farve.
It looks likes Mr. Momentum maybe changing his address
HOMER
Baskett sighting!
Keep running the ball fat man.
3rd and short... FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY KEEP IT ON THE GROUND!
Wow....a FB run that actually worked.
Run.....Run....Run
I think I may be a faster than McNabb at this point.
McNabb makes something out of nothing
Reid might be learing!
Sike.
Smash mouth football
holy smoke - what is this thing that the offense is doing right now?
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 09, 2007, 01:47:35 PM
holy smoke - what is this thing that the offense is doing right now?
Sputting at midfield.
Curtis! That was beautiful.
Big pass to Whitey.
Holy shtein Curtis.
McNabb to Curtis = beauty
Curtis NICE Catch :yay
Joseph Smith!
The Packers are reeling, time to go for blood.
up until this drive i swear i was watching the final preseason game.
Kevin "White Lightning" Curtis
Bad throw to Westbrook.
LJ shtein in motion
Horrible playcall on 3rd down. Out comes Akers.
Did Britt Reid call those plays?
What a retarded farging playcall. Pass in the flat to Westbrook. Wasted oppurtunity
What with the goal line calls to Westbrook - three in a row? Love him but creativity helps
Another penalty
memo to moose and siragusa - remove head from packers ass.
pathetic red zone play calling. might as well run the play to tapeh they ran at New Orleans on third and goal.
haha, pathetic playcalling...
Quote from: 4and26 on September 09, 2007, 01:55:01 PM
What with the goal line calls to Westbrook - three in a row? Love him but creativity helps
I woulda been fine with one more run on 2nd down.
yeah wtf if your going to give him the ball at least run it up the middle...and not some swing passes when you thats what GB is waiting for!
Maybe I'm old school, but when you're about 5 yards out and can't get any movement running the ball down the middle, at least one pass into the endzone might be a good idea.
Jets just tied it up with the Pats 7-7
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 09, 2007, 01:58:45 PM
Maybe I'm old school, but when you're about 5 yards out and can't get any movement running the ball down the middle, at least one pass into the endzone might be a good idea.
On third down I was thinking that exact thing: THROW THE BALL INTO THE @#&@#^*& ENDZONE, YOU @#$*@&#@#* MORONS!
birds are getting very little pressure on favre. he is almost stationary in the pocket. start giving this guy happy feet.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 09, 2007, 01:58:45 PM
Maybe I'm old school, but when you're about 5 yards out and can't get any movement running the ball down the middle, at least one pass into the endzone might be a good idea.
Key.
It looked to me like Smith was open on the right side of the field right at the goal line on the first pass to Westbrook (2nd down).
Check out GoCong
Stop sucking off the Packers.. :boom
Check out Considine
Green Bay came too damn close of converting a 3rd and 11 on a running play.
Shut up shut up shut up shut up
Hey, Lewis actually caught that punt! Well, on the bounce, anyway.
Nice job by Greg Lewis there
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 09, 2007, 02:04:01 PM
Nice job by Greg Lewis there
I especially liked the part where he took it right out of bounds. Anything that minimizes the amount of time he is around the ball is ok by me.
Every Eagles first down should look like that.
Curtis had his man beat
Hey, LJ actually found the sticks that time!
Mcnabb threads the needle to LJ
McNabb looks slow, but strong and mobile. He's done a nice job shedding a few would be tacklers so far.
Was McNabb still behind the line of scrimmage on that one?
Nice play.
Beautiful play by McNabb to Avant. I thought he crsossed the LOS
Nice play. McNabb to Avant for 19 yards.
Westy turns a loss into a 6 yard gain
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 09, 2007, 02:10:00 PM
Beautiful play by McNabb to Avant. I thought he crsossed the LOS
I'm just glad the refs didn't see it like we did.
Have you seen me?
(http://assets.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/players/spotlight/11.jpg)
Name: Reggie Brown
DOB: 01/13/81 Age: 26
Ht: 6'1" Wt: 197 lbs.
Last seen: Dropping a pass in the preseason
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 09, 2007, 02:12:26 PM
Have you seen me?
(http://assets.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/players/spotlight/11.jpg)
Name: Reggie Brown
DOB: 01/13/81 Age: 26
Ht: 6'1" Wt: 197 lbs.
Last seen: Dropping a pass in the preseason
lmao
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 09, 2007, 02:10:00 PM
Beautiful play by McNabb to Avant. I thought he crsossed the LOS
the refs checked with siragusa and he said it was ok.
Michigan!
TOUCHDOWN EAGLES!
Avant/Baskett '08!
Touchdown! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b97wo2Ekww)
The Eagles are the better team here, they just played super sloppy early. Hopefully they shook off that early rust.
Nice pump fake by DMac on TD :yay
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 09, 2007, 02:13:42 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 09, 2007, 02:12:26 PM
Have you seen me?
(http://assets.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/players/spotlight/11.jpg)
Name: Reggie Brown
DOB: 01/13/81 Age: 26
Ht: 6'1" Wt: 197 lbs.
Last seen: Dropping a pass in the preseason
lmao
Chad Johnson
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 09, 2007, 02:12:26 PM
Have you seen me?
(http://assets.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/players/spotlight/11.jpg)
Name: Reggie Brown
DOB: 01/13/81 Age: 26
Ht: 6'1" Wt: 197 lbs.
Last seen: Dropping a pass in the preseason
is he active today?
al harriss' replacement is just that good.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 09, 2007, 02:15:18 PM
The Eagles are the better team here, they just played super sloppy early. Hopefully they shook off that early rust.
They've already destroyed what was left of my voice.
reggie browns time to shine was on the flea flicker.
UGH! Should have been a pick
Nice kickoff coverage.
And they finally gave Favre the happy feet we've been looking for. Followed by a 10-yard catch, of course.
Why is Juqua Thomas covering Driver?
juqua covering driver? ok.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 09, 2007, 02:19:49 PM
Why is Juqua Thomas covering Driver?
Well, it's better than Gocong covering him.
Freak hobbles off the field. :boom
Kearse hobbled again
Kearse kills Favre...then limps off the field.
Why were there two men trying to field that punt
What the hell was that? :-D
freak = farged
punt return team = really farged
Rush 17
Pass 16
Wow
Even the O line looks like it needs some work
Decent punt by Rocca
There's Reggie, apparently running the wrong route.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 09, 2007, 02:22:26 PM
Kearse kills Favre...then limps off the field.
Why were there two men trying to field that punt
Because Greg Lewis is single-handedly trying to win the game for the Packers.
Phils up 7-0
Quote from: 4and26 on September 09, 2007, 02:24:23 PM
Even the O line looks like it needs some work
what's up with that? not like the packers are sending the house. looks like the OL is getting pushed around. we all heard that the Packers d line had improved. looks that way.
Those fargers finally got called for delay.
Considine can't bring in the Favre special
Delay of game, Favre
Hey, don't the refs know that's Brett Favre?
Nice finish Howard
who whiffed on that tackle?
Reagor with the huge sack!
Huge sack by Reagor
good job monte! favre holding the ball like that as he's going down is a gift waiting to happen.
Nice to see another team farg up their clock management for once!
What does DMac have to smile about ???
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 09, 2007, 02:35:57 PM
Nice to see another team farg up their clock management for once!
thought i saw favre looking over at AR and saying "Like this Andy?"
Frustrating first half...
But this should be expected from the Eagles in week 1...we see it every year (except 2004)
I love how they kept running it despite being down.
KEEP IT UP, MARTY!
And the defense is playing well. Better than I expected.
Shoot Mushmouth Lewis
Quote from: 4and26 on September 09, 2007, 02:36:24 PM
What does DMac have to smile about ???
Because his team played one of the most incompetent quarters of football ever and is tied going into the half?
Considine and Gocong look suprisingly not bad.
Pennington just got nailed and hopped off the field - Jets fans cheered LOUDLY
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 09, 2007, 02:45:35 PM
Pennington just got nailed and hopped off the field - Jets fans cheered LOUDLY
It won't get mentioned, but if happened in Philly...
Quote from: Munson on September 09, 2007, 02:47:57 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 09, 2007, 02:45:35 PM
Pennington just got nailed and hopped off the field - Jets fans cheered LOUDLY
It won't get mentioned, but if happened in Philly...
The one game announcer said it wasn't worth mentioning, but that it was bad. He didn't sound pleased about it at all.
And Pennington could be done. Nasty hit.
Tito's out with a sprained knee. lovely
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 09, 2007, 02:52:29 PM
Tito's out with a sprained knee. lovely
sheldon will step up :paranoid
Little disappointed Sheldon didn't put driver into the tundra there
Good pressure by the D line - any word on Kearse
McNabb to TO all day
ok, who's slower- burrell, helms or avant?
Curtis is even faster then I thought.
Great White Hope.
I don't know, but Avant's having a heck of a game.
Green Akers
damn! would have loved to have burned lady man harris.
Whatever Akers had lost the last couple years, he seemed to find it again this off-season.
isnt lito always hurt in a week 1 game? i bet he is out for 3-5 weeks.
Quote from: Munson on September 09, 2007, 03:04:58 PM
Whatever Akers had lost the last couple years, he seemed to find it again this off-season.
Sav Rocca, baby!
Who are the Packers playing today? I think it's some green/white team?
Does anyone know which game Siragusa is reporting from?
This defense does seem to be swarming to the ball today- hope they can keep it up.
That was a terrible call against Driver. I'll take it, though.
Quote from: stalker on September 09, 2007, 03:11:51 PM
Does anyone know which game Siragusa is reporting from?
It's a game being played in his colon.
What a crock of shtein
What the hell.... :boom
Was that not a forward lateral?
:boom :boom :boom :boom
Jesus this Favre fellatio is out of control
Favre is getting really farging lucky
why cant we take favre down? even on the sacks we have recorded hes stood up for a while. i want him down right away.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 09, 2007, 03:16:00 PM
Favre is getting really farging lucky
Just like the last 15 years or so.
That toss was definatley an underhand toss. Then again there might be a rule about that happening in the pocket or something.
Quote from: MDS on September 09, 2007, 03:15:52 PM
Jesus this Favre fellatio is out of control
How does he do that, he is so dreamy and amazing.
That was a !00% arm throw.
as much as i can't stand favre he is farging schooling us.
julio hanson on driver? we have hit rock bottom.
A legal forward pass does not have to be completed in an overhand motion. Once the ball crosses the L.O.S. the ball can only be passed laterally to behind.
about farging time
A Patterson sighting!
And I thought that Favre was going to shoot one out of his ass to Driver on the sack.
hey guys thats entertaining for the moose.
mcnabb does that what every other drive?
Quote from: MDS on September 09, 2007, 03:15:52 PM
Jesus this Favre fellatio is out of control
If Siragusa was at the game, do you guys believe he would actually blow Favre and Barnett?
Quote from: stalker on September 09, 2007, 03:11:51 PM
Does anyone know which game Siragusa is reporting from?
when this crew does a game in philly i will send a few of you a hawaiian warrior death club. made out of hard koa wood with sharp shark teeth sticking out like razor blades. slow and painful abuse or quick strike to the skull. your choice.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 09, 2007, 03:17:39 PM
How does he do that, he is so dreamy and amazing.
That was a !00% arm throw.
My wife is pregnant form that drive. He'll have stubble & a vicodin addiction at age 2.
Quote from: MDS on September 09, 2007, 03:15:52 PM
Jesus this Favre fellatio is out of control
I am amazed the Fox annoucer can call the game with Favres cock in his mouth.
:boom
donovan give it up. please.
Dfference is, when McNabb does it, the Eagles' stone hand receivers drop the bleepin' ball.
enough of this FG crap...can we please get some TDs now?
only 1 qrt left...making me nervous now.
Apparently Reid still thinks it's a suprise when they pass on first down and then run on second down :o
where is igy trying to defend the fellating of Favere
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 09, 2007, 03:25:24 PM
enough of this FG crap...can we please get some TDs now?
only 1 qrt left...making me nervous now.
i've been nervous since July 27.
Quote from: Munson on September 09, 2007, 03:26:04 PM
Apparently Reid still thinks it's a suprise when they pass on first down and then run on second down :o
it fooled me...i thought they were going to pass again.
At least by watching this heart attack, we're mostly missing the Phils' blow another big lead to the Marlins.
8-5 now. Old Six Fingers in.
farg we got lucky. that sack could have killed us.
moose johnson please, please go far away.
Killed those worms dead!
Who's #86?
Reggie Brown has been found, call off the manhunt!
reggie back from witness protection program.
and the running game has been officially abandoned.
Shut up sut up shut up
I'm putting the over/under on amount of running attempts for Westbrook for the rest of the game at 3.
what is with our OL? this is bad. once again pack ain't even bringing the house. their d line that good?
pass the ball for a change, damnit
Quote from: Don Ho on September 09, 2007, 03:34:07 PM
what is with our OL? this is bad. once again pack ain't even bringing the house. their d line that good?
their D-line isn't bad, their ends are excellent
did they just pass for like 6-7 straight plays? WTF? we are not losing...WHY CANT WE EVER RUN?
I think the announcers should just marry farve
PLEASE SIGN BETHEL JOHNSON TOMORROW
I hate Greg Lewis
Greg Lewis still farging around out there.
moose johnson finally says something that makes sense - greg lewis sucks as a punt returner.
GLew is going to give me a farging heart attack returning punts. Where's Reno?
Just put Bryant Westbrook back there for the love of Science
The TV had a shot of the Eagle's DL lining up, and Phreak's arms are, well... freakish.
He's got no fat at all on his arms. The others' were big and bulky, but his look like a chisled statue.
I almost wonder if that's why he's so injury-prone. He's got no cushion on him to protect the body.
Hey look the running game works...
What's the green dot on the helmets for?
Quote from: Munson on September 09, 2007, 03:42:29 PM
Hey look the running game works...
What's the green dot on the helmets for?
If you push it McNabb says - The coach is always right
Tie game in the fourth quarter... who needs timeouts in a situation like this? Let's waste the last one too!
I think the green dot is the time out button. It must be jammed or something.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 09, 2007, 03:44:10 PM
Tie game in the fourth quarter... who needs timeouts in a situation like this? Let's waste the last one too!
Give them about five more plays, I'm sure you'll get your wish.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 09, 2007, 03:39:46 PM
GLew is going to give me a farging heart attack returning punts. Where's Reno?
it has come to that. Reno, are you still in philly? be at the NovaCare monday morning.
McNabb doesn't listen too closely for footsteps behind him, eh?
McNabb mistaked Nick Collins for Rhonde Barber
What the hell...why is this team never* ready for week one?
*sans the "pickle juice" game
did the trainers mistakingly put donovan's knee brace on his face? wtf with that pass?
Putt in Kobbbblblbbbb!
Luckily the Green Bay DBs can't handle the mustard, either.
Reid-like playcalling by the Packers.
Green Bay pulls a Reid and throws on 3rd and 1.
Reed fields the punt this time.
See ya GLew.
This is thoroughly unimpressive game.
WTF was that!
farging Avant.
Avant just put the defense behind the 8-ball.
Quote from: MDS on September 09, 2007, 03:53:13 PM
This is thoroughly unimpressive game.
does not dmac see that these short little passes two yards short of the first down with the receiver surrounded by three defenders will not work.
farging eh. this game feels like the tampa game last year. stupid is as stupid does.
we should pass more out of the shotgun
Gocong just made a play!
FREEEEEEEAAAAK! And Killa!
PHREAK!!!!!!!!!!!
KILLA!
d had to do it
COLE AND DA FREAK!
COle!
And KILLA COLE!
silence from the two ass lickers!
farg you
farg you
fuvk you
let's remove the skirt fellas.
And, somehow... the offense is still going to foul it up.
On 2nd and 14 in this situation I usually like more than a 2 yard run.
2nd and 14 and Reid still trying to run?
Why id CBuck getting carries with 4:00 left?
Curtis was wide open.
Oh shtein it's the prevent defense! Game's over, game-winning Packers FG imminent!
Joselio snapped his dong off. Spadaro will be crushed.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 09, 2007, 04:04:03 PM
Joselio snapped his dong off. Spadaro will be crushed.
Especially if it falls on him.
Quote from: Beermonkey on September 09, 2007, 04:02:45 PM
Quote from: stalker on September 09, 2007, 04:01:51 PM
Curtis was wide open.
not really
he was pretty damn open. hung it a little bit to much and outside sholder. that farger is on the inside we're looking good.
Quentin Mikell
WHAT THE farg!!!!
I give up.
OMG...
i'm going to farging kill myself
DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE !
Unfargingreal
Bring back Reno. We singlehandidly lost this game because of our punt return
pa-farging-thetic
:boom :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom
way to go rory you piece of shtein
Crosby can boot 'em from 60 yards easy, too.
wtf was he thinking?
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS YOU DONT ADDRESS A POSITION!
omg i wanna kill someone. i have to live for a week with this?
All of GB's points will come off turnovers.
Craptacular.
I never knew punt returning could be so hard.
it's just a punt returner...you can put anybody back there...who cares
stupid fat farg
Quote from: Butchers Bill on September 09, 2007, 04:11:44 PM
All of GB's points will come off turnovers.
Craptacular.
10 of them will come off muffed punts. Including the gw fg.
Gotta hope for a block or something... :boom
they don't deserve to win this game regardless...pathetic performance
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 09, 2007, 04:11:31 PM
omg i wanna kill someone. i have to live for a week with this?
i say we team up and kill each other. win win....win.
ITS GOOD! AHAHAHA
asides from the crappy Special teams we again wasted time outs and our offense went into shot gun mode all of the 2nd half. pathetic.
So do they get Bloom back now? ST single handedly lost this game.
If Reno is still here, we win. Face it.
Can't believe they lost this game because of farging special teams.
Better get a good CD... no way in hell am I listening to ESPN tomorrow.
Ha...I waited 8 months for this. I need to find another hobby.
i feel like taking a shtein on my face after this
and we all ripped mahe. reed outta here, lewis outta here.
two farging boneheads back there returning punts. i am beyond pissed.
go away you farging losers.
this team wasn't perared to play at all...penalties, god awful special teams, terrible offense. just par for the course for an Andy Reid coached team.
As usual on opening day... totally unprepared.
Go Philies@
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 04, 2007, 12:38:27 PM
Not worried at all. Andy always gets his teams motivated for week 1 :paranoid
I'm f'ing tired of this
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 08, 2007, 02:57:13 PM
Sure, but that doesn't mean he's right.
The Favre's will not win this game.
Me, Ray Diddy > You
i actually want them to sign mahe...how pathetic is that.
I don't care if there isn't a defender around for 20 yards. No one on the Eagles punt return team is allowed to touch the ball. Ever.
8-8 sounds too good for the team I watched today.
Beautiful showing today, iceholes. Beautiful.
STs and the offense lost this game.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 09, 2007, 04:18:54 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 04, 2007, 12:38:27 PM
Not worried at all. Andy always gets his teams motivated for week 1 :paranoid
I'm f'ing tired of this
Join the club. Even worse, Favre didn't do shtein to win this game, the Eagles lost it because they have a ST coach that doesn't know shtein about ST. No I noticed the punt returners kept getting blown up everytime they touched the ball... but they don't need blocking, right KC? Just have to run fast or whatever crap you spewed. Lost on ST... what a farging joke.
even with the all special teams problems we had a chance....but all we did in the 2nd half was pass pass pass play action pass and pass some more. wtf when will they ever learn? i mean cmon!
i need something to do for a week...cant listen to the radio cant watch tv....oh sweet but i do have work to go to.
i farging couldnt sleep for this shtein!
If only they would have drafted an Amish quilt maker last year insted of a Skier :P
Quote from: Don Ho on September 09, 2007, 04:17:19 PM
and we all ripped mahe. reed outta here, lewis outta here.
two farging boneheads back there returning punts. i am beyond pissed.
go away you farging losers.
Reed's fine on KR, but they have absolutely no one not named Westbrook/Lito on the team who's a PR right now.
Please resign Bloom. I'd rather have him then MAhe.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 09, 2007, 04:20:37 PM
8-8 sounds too good for the team I watched today.
It's never as good or as bad as it seems.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 09, 2007, 04:20:31 PM
I don't care if there isn't a defender around for 20 yards.
With Segrest coaching ST that'll never happen. They should just not put a returner back there since they don't farging block anybody.
we all deserve to be pissed off. go ahead and say calm down, first game, you guys are so negative. well i am farging irate about this. 13 points off stupid turnovers. 2 punt muffs by two knuckle heads and dmac's int was pathetic. baskett was WIDE open. this what they get for not addressing a huge, huge void. no excuse fo rthis lose.
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 09, 2007, 04:23:00 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 09, 2007, 04:20:31 PM
I don't care if there isn't a defender around for 20 yards.
With Segrest coaching ST that'll never happen. They should just not put a returner back there since they don't farging block anybody.
Segrest, out!
yeah why wasnt westbrook out there? game on the line under 2 min? why not?
at least he would not have done this. and to think one of the better defensive performances wasted on this game. we got lucky on D a lot with a lot of dropped balls. other teams wont be as bad and rip the D apart.
I'm not one to blame coaches, but this really was Reid's fault. Put to non PR's back there, what do you expect to happen. It's like when Manuel brings in Mesa or Alfonseca, what do you thinks gonna happen? On top of that, the offense was awful. Granted, McNabb is still coming back from the ACL and is gonna be sloppy for a bit. But you take the pressure off him by running the ball and running the ball and easing him in.
Just a horrible job by the offense and especially by the 2 punt returners. But that blame falls on the coaching staff, and of course that means Andy Reid. If Westbrook muffs a punt, oh well, farg him. But when you put zesty, unprepared guys back there that are destined to fail, you can look no further than the Britt Reid's daddy.
Un farging believable. I don't even blame Reed for that, I'm pretty sure he's never returned a punt in his career and he shouldn't have been put in that position. This one is ENTIRELY on the coaching staff. farging losers.
ha! "green bay did a heck of a job"
Quote from: MDS on September 09, 2007, 04:25:28 PM
I'm not one to blame coaches, but this really was Reid's fault.
Reid seriously sucks at coaching. But at least he's a great dad.
I won't even say ST's lost us the game. 3 players and 3 players alone lost the game for us.
JR Reed, Greg Lewis, and Donovan McNabb.
McNabb played just about as bad as i've seen him play, absolutely horrible. Kevin Curtis should've had 150 yards receiving and 2 TD's if McNabb wouldn't have missed him. He also must not have been able to see Nick Collins at all because he threw two balls right to that mfer. The first one, which the announcers didn't pick up on, was on John Jolly's first tip. If Jolly doesn't tip that ball then Collins takes it to the house easy. The 2nd one was where Collins dropped the ball. He needs to step the F up next game.
Props to the D, though, they played very well.
Quote from: MDS on September 09, 2007, 04:25:28 PM
I'm not one to blame coaches, but this really was Reid's fault. Put to non PR's back there, what do you expect to happen. It's like when Manuel brings in Mesa or Alfonseca, what do you thinks gonna happen? On top of that, the offense was awful. Granted, McNabb is still coming back from the ACL and is gonna be sloppy for a bit. But you take the pressure off him by running the ball and running the ball and easing him in.
Just a horrible job by the offense and especially by the 2 punt returners. But that blame falls on the coaching staff, and of course that means Andy Reid. If Westbrook muffs a punt, oh well, farg him. But when you put zesty, unprepared guys back there that are destined to fail, you can look no further than the Britt Reid's daddy.
exactly...just like LBs this position or Special teams in general does not even matter to these idiots.
and with mcnabb coming back and not as mobile as usual why did we pass so much. im telling you if we fail again this season and mcnabb is let go they will justify thier kolb pick and reid will stay on but mcnabb could have won us a superbowl for us by now if it wasnt for this horrible game day coaching he has to deal with.
I only blame Reid (this time game) if he's responsible for Segrest, then he should burn. The offense, as crappy as they played, did well enough to win the game (this time). ST handed, HANDED, Green Bay 10 points. McNabb's stupid pick only cost them a figgie. I'm way too pissed off...
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 09, 2007, 04:27:34 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 09, 2007, 04:25:28 PM
I'm not one to blame coaches, but this really was Reid's fault.
Reid seriously sucks at coaching. But at least he's a great dad.
we can only wish for a tony dungy type outcome
dude dude dude lookin out my back door (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJqoL3ish54)
anyone want to go surfing? great way to get this farging shtein out of your mind and clean out your soul. right now my soul is very polluted and i didn't even drink yesterday.
Beyond pissed right now. After Reed muffed the kick and I smashed a thing or two, I didn't even care. With the way the call plays in the goddamn redzone and the way they "address" the special teams they deserved to lose this farging game.
McNabb was off today, yeah. He had some happy feet goin' on...partly because that GB DL was in his face all day. But when he did have time he was off-target.
The STs were just horrible. The worst I have ever seen under Andy Reid.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 09, 2007, 04:31:35 PM
anyone want to go surfing? great way to get this farging shtein out of your mind and clean out your soul. right now my soul is very polluted and i didn't even drink yesterday.
I would farging love to. The Eagles sports bar I used to go to in SD was a block from the beach.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 09, 2007, 04:25:18 PM
yeah why wasnt westbrook out there? game on the line under 2 min? why not?
Andy probably decided not to get him killed by the Packers entire punt team taking free shots on him as the ball hits his hands.
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 09, 2007, 04:29:14 PM
I only blame Reid (this time game) if he's responsible for Segrest, then he should burn. The offense, as crappy as they played, did well enough to win the game (this time). ST handed, HANDED, Green Bay 10 points. McNabb's stupid pick only cost them a figgie. I'm way too pissed off...
So what, he left too many plays on the field today. The guy is a 9 year vet, he should never play like that. Poorly thrown balls, terrible reads, throwing right to defenders, it's retarded for him to make those mistakes. 15/33? Are you f'n kidding me? 15 for 33!
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 09, 2007, 04:24:54 PMSegrest, out!
ha
CSN PGL discussing bringing back Mahe and they gave McNabb a C- grade
Too bad Danny Smith isn't available. ::)
If Coach Reid doesn't take full responsibility for this and promise to have his guys prepared better, I will be shocked!
Quote from: DonovanTheMessiah on September 09, 2007, 04:34:42 PM
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 09, 2007, 04:29:14 PM
I only blame Reid (this time game) if he's responsible for Segrest, then he should burn. The offense, as crappy as they played, did well enough to win the game (this time). ST handed, HANDED, Green Bay 10 points. McNabb's stupid pick only cost them a figgie. I'm way too pissed off...
So what, he left too many plays on the field today. The guy is a 9 year vet, he should never play like that. poorly thrown balls, terrible reads, throwing right to defenders, it's retarded for him to make those mistakes. 15/33? Are you f'n kidding me? 15 for 33!
The point was McNabb's pic didn't do the most damage and was negligible by comparison (and yes he did suck today) but even with that if the ST didn't farging give away 10 points the entire complexion of the game is changed.
When Johnny Jolly touches the ball three times as much as your #1 receiver, the offense has to take a little bit of the blame.
i don't even want to think about fat ass' press conference generic speech:
"this one falls on me (clear throat) i didn't have them prepared (clear throat) we need to work on some things (clear throat) i thought donovan did some good things out there (clear throat) time to go free base with my boys (clear throat)"
farg me and farg the eagles!
I am so glad we have that 11th offensive lineman instead of a returner.
By the way, the Skins are officially ahead of the Eagles in the NFC East standings now. :puke
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 09, 2007, 04:37:16 PM
Quote from: DonovanTheMessiah on September 09, 2007, 04:34:42 PM
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 09, 2007, 04:29:14 PM
I only blame Reid (this time game) if he's responsible for Segrest, then he should burn. The offense, as crappy as they played, did well enough to win the game (this time). ST handed, HANDED, Green Bay 10 points. McNabb's stupid pick only cost them a figgie. I'm way too pissed off...
So what, he left too many plays on the field today. The guy is a 9 year vet, he should never play like that. poorly thrown balls, terrible reads, throwing right to defenders, it's retarded for him to make those mistakes. 15/33? Are you f'n kidding me? 15 for 33!
The point was McNabb's pic didn't do the most damage and was negligible by comparison (and yes he did suck today) but even with that if the ST didn't farging give away 10 points the entire complexion of the game is changed.
I agree, but McNabb is just as much to blame as Reed and Lewis. I'm not even going to blame the rest of the ST's or offense, it was just those 3 guys. If we put no one back to field a punt today we win the game. Depressing.
I thought guys on offense played well. West played well, Curtis played well, Avant played well, Reggie had opportunties but McNabb was just not on target at all today.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 09, 2007, 04:38:56 PM
When Johnny Jolly touches the ball three times as much as your #1 receiver, the offense has to take a little bit of the blame.
Offense +13 points
ST -10 points
Defense - 3 points (I'm hesitant to put the other 3 on them since McNabb gave GB the ball on the 30)
Sorry I'm not blaming the O for losing this game. After being in a 10-0 hole to start the game they scored 13 points to go ahead. With GB's offense sucking that should have been good, but it wouldn't have been that close if they had competent ST.
Speaking of Avant, can he return punts?
Bloom might not have provided a "boost" in the return game but at least he knows how to catch the farging ball.
Quote from: DonovanTheMessiah on September 09, 2007, 04:44:04 PM
I agree, but McNabb is just as much to blame as Reed and Lewis.
not even close
it wasn't donovan's fault they went to all passing mode late in the game, it wasn't donovan's fault that his receivers dropped a bunch of balls again.
donovan wasn't great, but he played good enough to win the game. to even begin to put him on the same level as Reed and Lewis is stupid.
Damn!
Quote from: DonovanTheMessiah on September 09, 2007, 04:44:04 PM
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 09, 2007, 04:37:16 PM
Quote from: DonovanTheMessiah on September 09, 2007, 04:34:42 PM
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 09, 2007, 04:29:14 PM
I only blame Reid (this time game) if he's responsible for Segrest, then he should burn. The offense, as crappy as they played, did well enough to win the game (this time). ST handed, HANDED, Green Bay 10 points. McNabb's stupid pick only cost them a figgie. I'm way too pissed off...
So what, he left too many plays on the field today. The guy is a 9 year vet, he should never play like that. poorly thrown balls, terrible reads, throwing right to defenders, it's retarded for him to make those mistakes. 15/33? Are you f'n kidding me? 15 for 33!
The point was McNabb's pic didn't do the most damage and was negligible by comparison (and yes he did suck today) but even with that if the ST didn't farging give away 10 points the entire complexion of the game is changed.
I agree, but McNabb is just as much to blame as Reed and Lewis.
Sorry but that's just dumb. McNabb's one pick (I don't care what should have been picked off, they weren't so they don't count anymore than the D's near picks do) didn't amount to anything other than 3 points and that was only because the field was so farging short for the defense to begin with. ST gave up a TD what, 6 minutes into the game because of a muff and another muff gave up the game winner. It's not even in the same realm.
On that one drive (late 3rd/early 4th), Westbrook had two clang off the hands in one possession.
Even though Reed definitely shouldn't have tried catching the punt, I'm not going to pin the game on him. Stupid play. Stupid call to put him in when he hasn't returned a punt since preseason 4 years ago. Last I checked, Westbrook was pretty fargin good at returning punts and has actually done it before. Nice call going with the guy you signed a couple days ago.
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 09, 2007, 04:45:56 PM
Speaking of Avant, can he return punts?
Bloom might not have provided a "boost" in the return game but at least he knows how to catch the farging ball.
Like I said, I'd much rather them resign Bloom then Mahe. Bloom will have more of an impact just recieving the punts cleanly with the chance to break one then GLew's 20 or so catches will have this year. Cut GLew, resign Bloom, keep Reed on KR's only.
Is DB position coach a promotion over ST coordinator.
There is plenty of blame to go around on this one. As poorly as McNabb played, the onus has to fall on the special teams today. Reid better have Heckert scouring the wire for punt returners.
Fire Reid!
Quote from: stalker on September 09, 2007, 04:52:39 PM
Is DB position coach a promotion over ST coordinator.
Yes. I'm thinkin they want him to eventually replace JJ as DC.
I don't care who they sign as long as they can catch the ball and Segrest decides to buy a book on the merits of Special Teams blocking.
Quote from: SunMo on September 09, 2007, 04:46:09 PM
Quote from: DonovanTheMessiah on September 09, 2007, 04:44:04 PM
I agree, but McNabb is just as much to blame as Reed and Lewis.
not even close
it wasn't donovan's fault they went to all passing mode late in the game, it wasn't donovan's fault that his receivers dropped a bunch of balls again.
donovan wasn't great, but he played good enough to win the game. to even begin to put him on the same level as Reed and Lewis is stupid.
Less than 50% completion
3 batted balls
Less than 6 yards per attempt
And we only scored 13 points. You're telling me 13 points is good enough to win?
I like Donovan, a lot, but he's our QB and he can't play like a damn rookie and expect us to win. Just a terrible performance. Can't believe he played that bad.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 09, 2007, 04:40:50 PMi don't even want to think about fat ass' press conference generic speech:
Reporter: "your team doesn't have a punt returner"
Reid: "yeah, I guess not"
"Special" Teams. They better take the short bus home.
Quote from: Munson on September 09, 2007, 04:54:03 PM
Quote from: stalker on September 09, 2007, 04:52:39 PM
Is DB position coach a promotion over ST coordinator.
Yes. I'm thinkin they want him to eventually replace JJ as DC.
That makes sense.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 09, 2007, 04:54:41 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on September 09, 2007, 04:40:50 PMi don't even want to think about fat ass' press conference generic speech:
Reporter: "your team doesn't have a punt returner"
Reid: "yeah, I guess not"
Hahaha he really said that?
Please sign Bloom. Bloomy.
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 09, 2007, 04:50:31 PM
Quote from: DonovanTheMessiah on September 09, 2007, 04:44:04 PM
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 09, 2007, 04:37:16 PM
Quote from: DonovanTheMessiah on September 09, 2007, 04:34:42 PM
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 09, 2007, 04:29:14 PM
I only blame Reid (this time game) if he's responsible for Segrest, then he should burn. The offense, as crappy as they played, did well enough to win the game (this time). ST handed, HANDED, Green Bay 10 points. McNabb's stupid pick only cost them a figgie. I'm way too pissed off...
So what, he left too many plays on the field today. The guy is a 9 year vet, he should never play like that. poorly thrown balls, terrible reads, throwing right to defenders, it's retarded for him to make those mistakes. 15/33? Are you f'n kidding me? 15 for 33!
The point was McNabb's pic didn't do the most damage and was negligible by comparison (and yes he did suck today) but even with that if the ST didn't farging give away 10 points the entire complexion of the game is changed.
I agree, but McNabb is just as much to blame as Reed and Lewis.
Sorry but that's just dumb. McNabb's one pick (I don't care what should have been picked off, they weren't so they don't count anymore than the D's near picks do) didn't amount to anything other than 3 points and that was only because the field was so farging short for the defense to begin with. ST gave up a TD what, 6 minutes into the game because of a muff and another muff gave up the game winner. It's not even in the same realm.
Everyone is to blame. But I expected a lot more out of our QB today. You can't be in your 9th season in the same offense and play that poorly, you just can't.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 09, 2007, 04:54:41 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on September 09, 2007, 04:40:50 PMi don't even want to think about fat ass' press conference generic speech:
Reporter: "your team doesn't have a punt returner"
Reid: "yeah, I guess not"
Brilliant, there is no excuse for that at all.
13 point was MORE than enough to win without the ST gaffes. Green Bay had 215 TOTAL yards of offense.
LMAO I just looked, they had 6 punt return opportunities and got a total of 12 farging yards. They better beg Bloom to come back to the team. That's pathetic.
Quote from: DonovanTheMessiah on September 09, 2007, 04:56:19 PM
I expected a lot more out of our QB today.
Your name sort of implies that.
Derek farging Gunn just asked Buck if the Eagles surprised the Pack front 7 by being able to run so well on them!! At the same time they put Buck's 4 carries for 5 yads stat under him on the screen. How do these reporters get work?
Quote13 point was MORE than enough to win without the ST gaffes. Green Bay had 215 TOTAL yards of offense.
13 points was enough to win today, but it still wasn't acceptable.
I liked the pressure today. 1.5 sacks for Cole, 1 for Mike, 1 for Reagor, .5 for Jevon, and Jugua was all over Favre but just couldn't bring him down.
Quote from: DonovanTheMessiah on September 09, 2007, 04:56:19 PM
Everyone is to blame. But I expected a lot more out of our QB today. You can't be in your 9th season in the same offense and play that poorly, you just can't.
He had no time to throw all farging day.
Quote from: DonovanTheMessiah on September 09, 2007, 05:00:46 PM
Quote13 point was MORE than enough to win without the ST gaffes. Green Bay had 215 TOTAL yards of offense.
13 points was enough to win today....
Thank you, now stfu about McNabb.
Quote from: DonovanTheMessiah on September 09, 2007, 04:54:20 PM
Less than 50% completion
3 batted balls
Less than 6 yards per attempt
yeah, playcalling, line play, and receiver play has nothing to do with that
QuoteAnd we only scored 13 points. You're telling me 13 points is good enough to win?
it is when your special teams gives up the ball twice that leads to 10 points
and enough with the "we" and "us" garbage...christ almighty
anyone who blames mcnabb even a little bit should be punched in the face...the guy is first game back from a terrible knee injury...hes not gonna be himself this year much less first game
andy reid single handedly lost this game...mother farging period....he should have been fired before he left the field
Quote from: SunMo on September 09, 2007, 05:02:49 PM
Quote from: DonovanTheMessiah on September 09, 2007, 04:54:20 PM
Less than 50% completion
3 batted balls
Less than 6 yards per attempt
yeah, playcalling, line play, and receiver play has nothing to do with thatQuote
Of course it does, but playcalling has nothing to do with getting 3 balls batted at the line. Has nothing to do with missing Kevin Curtis deep on at least 2 occasions. Has nothing to do with throwing the ball right to Nick Collins twice. The drops aren't his fault and the pressure doesn't help, but he played like crap today. Whether we could've won or not today isn't my main concern. It's how McNabb can play the whole year. If he plays like this, we won't win.
QuoteQuoteAnd we only scored 13 points. You're telling me 13 points is good enough to win?
it is when your special teams gives up the ball twice that leads to 10 points
and enough with the "we" and "us" garbage...christ almighty
I'll say whatever I want.
ok tough guy...learn to quote before you flex your cyber muscles
seriously kill the "we" garbage...you only embarass yourself when you do that
mcnabb obviously did not make the throws/plays we expect him to make. on that one play in the 4rth where mcnabb stepped up and bombed the ball deep to curtis...curtis was open and had his man beat but mcnabb threw it to the outside shoulder...had that been towards the middle of the field thats a touchdown.
problem is i do not think we should have been expecting mcnabb to be himself completely his first game back. the packers D is no joke and their 2ndary is stellar. so it made even less sense that reid decided to go so pass happy in the 3rth and 4rd qrt. we were running the offense out of shotgun for the whole 2nd half it seems.
washington leads the division...god i hope the giants win tonight. taterskins and cowboys up on us?
we need a punt returner.
And a head coach...
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 09, 2007, 05:10:08 PM
mcnabb obviously did not make the throws/plays we expect him to make. on that one play in the 4rth where mcnabb stepped up and bombed the ball deep to curtis...curtis was open and had his man beat but mcnabb threw it to the outside shoulder
problem is i do not think we should have been expecting mcnabb to be himself completely his first game back. the packers D is no joke and their 2ndary is stellar. so it made even less sense that reid decided to go so pass happy in the 3rth and 4rd qrt. we were running the offense out of shotgun for the whole 2nd half it seems.
he didnt complete the curtis throw because he double clutched...if he throws it after his three steps he completes it...he held the ball today like it raped wilma and double clutched all afternoon...hes just not back and wont be until 08...carson palmer said a week ago that hes still not 100% and this is his second year after the injury
oh and the gb defense stinks...give them no credit...they are gonna get abused all year
OK... I haven't read this thread yet... so there's probably some shtein that I'm going to end up repeating.
Two words for Andy Reid:
farg YOU!!!!
I don't blame Greg Lewis... I don't blame J.R. Reed... I don't blame Rory Segrest. I blame that fat farger for "upgrading" the position by throwing over the punt returning duties for two guys to "battle" over... cutting one of them in June for no farging reason... handing the duties over to Bloom with no competition... and then cutting his ass a week before the season opener.
Good call you farging clown.
Muffed punts by inexperienced returners cost us 10 farging points... in a game we lost by 3. Had Andy not cut the only 2 motherfargers who had a clue of what they were doing back there... they would not have lost.
The D turned in a pretty good performance... the offense was shaky as hell... but Andy pissed all of it away because he thinks, "Oh, well ANYBODY can return punts." This one sits square on his farging shoulders.
Damn... I never thought I'd say this, but WHERE THE farg ARE YOU, RENO MAHE?!?!?!?!
i still have not read anywhere why bethel johnson was let go.
and igy on that play he was pressured and moved up to avoid the rush. and curtis was still wide open. the ball was thrown out of bounds.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 09, 2007, 05:10:08 PM
mcnabb obviously did not make the throws/plays we expect him to make. on that one play in the 4rth where mcnabb stepped up and bombed the ball deep to curtis...curtis was open and had his man beat but mcnabb threw it to the outside shoulder...had that been towards the middle of the field thats a touchdown.
problem is i do not think we should have been expecting mcnabb to be himself completely his first game back. the packers D is no joke and their 2ndary is stellar. so it made even less sense that reid decided to go so pass happy in the 3rth and 4rd qrt. we were running the offense out of shotgun for the whole 2nd half it seems.
washington leads the division...god i hope the giants win tonight. taterskins and cowboys up on us?
Don't know about the Curtis pass. By the time the ball got there, he didn't have that big cushion anymore. It would've been a tough catch.
i wanna know prior to this game how many combined regular season nfl punt returns did greg lewis and jr reed have in their lives
jr has played 6 games in the last three years and was just picked off the scrap heap a week ago and the farging guy is returning a punt in a tied nfl game with under a minute to go...what coach at any level would ever put that on someone
westbrook has to be there at that point (not to mention the full time returner) even if to just wave his arm and catch the ball...but even if he isnt why isnt greg lewis back there....he was the starter...whether you agree with him being the PR or not and i certainly dont if hes your guy then he has to be there in the big spot...
why jr reed?
none of it makes any sense
and igy on that play he was pressured and moved up to avoid the rush. and curtis was still wide open. the ball was thrown out of bounds.
he had minimal pressure after his three steps and curtis was open...that when you have to throw the ball and he wasnt able to pull the trigger...hes hesitant and really not ready to play yet...not his fault its just the reality of coming off an injury like he had
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 09, 2007, 05:24:28 PM
i still have not read anywhere why bethel johnson was let go.
He had a fracture or something and couldn't practice for weeks. That's why HE got cut. Why they cut Bloom is straight up idiocy since they have no one left to return punts at that point. Greg Lewis caught ONE punt return (inside the farging 5 yard line no less) in the last preseason game and he becomes the automatic returner because Bloom didn't provide a "boost". Nevermind no one can block on ST and he can catch the farging ball.
4-12. This is about as good as it'll get.
I knew it wouldn't be pretty, and the ST would be average, but Jesus H farging Christ. How many guys did JR Reed have to fight through to muff that punt?
Never mind the fact that the O line was warmed up garbage. Never mind the running game was working, but they didn't use it anyway. Way to learn from last year.
The best part was, we got the "Kotite look" at least a half dozen times today. This team will suck. The only question left is when will they bench McNabb to see what they have with Kolb.
Super.Bowl.
i thought the oline played well after a rough start...mcnabb had crazy amounts of time on numerous pass plays in the second half...without seeing the actual film i cant tell if the wr's couldnt get open or if mcnabb wouldnt pull the trigger but damn he held the ball way to long on so many plays
i agree with the kotite looks...i dont know if reids home life is affecting him or not because hes always benn a disgraceful game day coach but damn he looked absolutely lost today
the inside the 5 series where he threw two passes that didnt cross the goalline
having buck run the ball on 1st and ten with 4 minutes left...westbrook the teams best player by far wasnt even in the game
the guy was more clueless than normal and that really saying something
the best thing that can come out of this season is for reid to get fired because of it...ive been calling for his head for almost five years now....how much more of this do we have to go thru before it actually happens
I LOVE THE PHILLIES!
The special teams were a joke today, but when you play the ultimate team game, it is the job of the other units to step up. The defense did, but the offense didn't. After Kearse recovered that fumble on the 38, ti was inexcusable not to put up any points.
The special teams is still mainly to blame, but the offense deserves a lot too. 13 points is not good enough.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 09, 2007, 05:26:55 PM
i wanna know prior to this game how many combined regular season nfl punt returns did greg lewis and jr reed have in their lives
jr has played 6 games in the last three years and was just picked off the scrap heap a week ago and the farging guy is returning a punt in a tied nfl game with under a minute to go...what coach at any level would ever put that on someone
westbrook has to be there at that point (not to mention the full time returner) even if to just wave his arm and catch the ball...but even if he isnt why isnt greg lewis back there....he was the starter...whether you agree with him being the PR or not and i certainly dont if hes your guy then he has to be there in the big spot...
why jr reed?
none of it makes any sense
I don't know if I've ever agreed with you more. Excellent post.
mcnabb didn't play stellar, but like said before, he played as well as you can expect him to play when the red haired fat farg starts going 3-4 wide and shotgun every play. even if we run out of that every time from 2nd to 3rd down, how bout running...i don't know...hurry up so they can't sub in their "pass specialists"...oh right, that has something to do with a clock. i wish i could put jeff greene's wife from curb, stick her in the post game and just point and say, "you fat farg"
Agreed. McNabb being a little off today had nothing to do with the injury. You couldn't even tell he was injured. He was moving around the pocket, breaking tackles. He just had no time to throw and after you get pressure in your face all the time you start getting happy feet.
The lousy playcalling in the second half didn't help either. The same with the WRs not getting open.
who thinks jr reed gets cut tomorrow?
also anyone else notice that the hank baskett era is pretty much over
Quote from: SunMo on September 09, 2007, 05:08:50 PM
ok tough guy...learn to quote before you flex your cyber muscles
:-D
I'm an internet tough guy because I said i'll say what I want. Ok.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 09, 2007, 05:09:30 PM
seriously kill the "we" garbage...you only embarass yourself when you do that
F you, I don't give a shtein what any of you think. Especially after that performance today.
its not what i think...its reality...being less of a douchebag is always the better course to take and a good start is to stop acting like you play or work for the team
Quote from: DonovanTheMessiah on September 09, 2007, 06:10:40 PM
Quote from: SunMo on September 09, 2007, 05:08:50 PM
ok tough guy...learn to quote before you flex your cyber muscles
:-D
I'm an internet tough guy because I said i'll say what I want. Ok.
Cmon man, no room for thuggin on this board! Control your levulz.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 09, 2007, 06:07:20 PM
who thinks jr reed gets cut tomorrow?
I hope not. They just need to realize that they shouldn't put him at PR in that situation. Whether they realized it now is a different story, but he was pretty capable at KR. If they cut Reed then they are absolutely farged at both return spots.
They need to just cut Lewis. He made it real obvious he hasn't returned shtein in his career. How he made the team over Bloom just because he can be a "passable 5th WR" is ridiculous. They never need 5 farging WRs. I'm not saying bring back Bloom, but how about showing that you know Lewis sucks the big one.
If there is an Eagles fan who didn't expect the special teams fiascos I'd be shocked.
It was an absolute given that that bullshtein would happen.
Whatever, though. 15 games to go to correct that idiocy. If they can't, then. . .
I wouldn't be confident in Bloom either. He hasn't returned in a regular season game either. This team should've farging traded for Rossum. He isn't what he used to be, but at least he knows how to field a farging punt.
There has to be a better option out there other than Bloom and Mahe. Someone with experience. Any names on the wire?
but he was pretty capable at KR. If they cut Reed then they are absolutely farged at both return spots.
are you kidding....jr getting cut will farg the team via the return spots?...i dont think so...the guy just got cut by the giants...his leaving will not effect the eagles one iota...hes a god damn cripple...in short he farging sucks
You're right. If they cut him, they'd be far better off at KR.
He shouldn't return punts. We know that. Who is going to be better than him at KR?
Atleast when Reno was back there, he would atleast catch the ball... Granted, he wouldn't progress the ball whatsoever, but atleast he'd catch the farging ball. It's pretty bad when Reno Mahe is a more viable option then both guys who were fielding punts today. But I don't even blame Greg Lewis or JR Reed, I blame Andy Reid for putting both of those boneheads in a position to cost us again. Actually, the more I think about it, I do blame JR Reed as well. How stupid can that guy be??? He fought through like 5 guys to try and faircatch the punt. JR, Andy, and Greg Lewis should find new teams. I was worried about the defense all summer, and they actually showed up to play. Meanwhile, we have Andy calling the same swing pass on 2nd and 3rd goal. Send him home to parent his kids.
FWIW, Dawkins and Brown think Sheppard will be OK
Andy farging lost this game plain and simple. I dont blame Lewis, other than being a retard, who doesn't fair catch the first one, and the other one, that was just plain retarded. JR Reed is ok at the KR spot, but he obviously doesnt have the burst that he had as a rookie. I'd be happy with bloom back there because he at least knew where the ball was in space. He seemed to understand when to take the ball and when to not. Lewis showed Reid that he had no farging clue in the preseason and proved it today.
Andy needs to get this shtein together, MMH saying 4-12 is just retarded 8-8 is more like it.
Anyone else notice that Dawk was not anywhere near himself. It concerned me seeing Considine out there making plays and being agressive and not seeing Dawk killing people.
The D really wasnt that bad, and that scares me since the O was that bad. I dont put this on D mac in the least bit, IGY explained the situation perfectly. He looked damn good considering the injury.
Other Concerns:
O Line looked like shtein against a faggy D Line
Lito getting hurt and joseilio spraining his brain hitting jackson
LJ, i didnt see him after the 3rd quarter
Reggie was invisible other than one nice catch
Arm tackling, what the farg was up with Hoyda little arm tackles that couldnt bring down Farve. Pathetic
Coaching, i cant wait till RJS gets here because the fat ass bad dad really farged this team over
reid is 3-6 in season openers...you'd think you people would be used to this by now.
I don't even feel like talking about this abortion of a game.
I realize Reid sucks in season openers, but this one easily could have been avoided if they would have just had a return man.
I was surprised that the eagles were actually able to stop the run today.
IGY Green Bay's defense actually should be pretty good this season, I don't think I would call it an abomination.
I know I'm beating a dead fat horse, but I worked all day and just saw the fargin highlights. I saw two kids today at 130lb. little league football that fielded punts better :boom WTF was Reed doing, did the wind take the pop up away from him? Our Defense made Farverererer look like he was 25yrs. old not taking him down. This is B.S. How about we get the team ready before the 1st week of the season Fat Ass. Give me a break. As sad as this is I want Reno, or hell they should have traded for Rossum.
The Eagles are now 10-15 in their last 25 season openers...
Reid = 3-6
Rhodes = 1-3
Kotite = 3-1
Ryan = 2-3
Campbell = 1-2
hmm
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 09, 2007, 07:43:12 PMI was surprised that the eagles were actually able to stop the run today.
There wasn't any run to stop.
Okay, we chalk up McNabb's performance to his injury. How long do we give him? Does he get a pass all year since it was a bad injury?
My only concern is that McNabb has never been the most accurate passer or made the best decisions. If he has permanently lost his mobility, I wonder how much he will be able to be a difference-maker.
So let me get this straight?
The season's pretty much over, right?
Quote from: Wingspan on September 09, 2007, 07:59:44 PM
So let me get this straight?
The season's pretty much over, right?
Yep that sums it up.
Quote from: Philly Crew on September 09, 2007, 07:58:25 PM
Okay, we chalk up McNabb's performance to his injury. How long do we give him? Does he get a pass all year since it was a bad injury?
My only concern is that McNabb has never been the most accurate passer or made the best decisions. If he has permanently lost his mobility, I wonder how much he will be able to be a difference-maker.
What the hell are you talking about? His injury had nothing to do with it. He was running around all over out there breaking tackles. I can't even remember a time in this game where McNabb dropped back and didn't have to move around a bit to buy time. He was mediocre at best today because of the pressure on defense and the bad playcalling. If you didn't know McNabb got hurt, you wouldn't have even been able to tell.
Another thing that baffles me about the playcalling is that they established a running game today yet did nothing to take advantage of it (ex: play action fake)
but they ran a stupid flea flicker on the 2nd play of the game...terrible
btw...the Giants cut JR Reid for a 7th round draft pick out of marshall for a kick returner
That's all bullshtein. McNabb was statuesque today. He isn't ready yet.
I said the OL looked like shtein not just because of the sacks, but the batted balls. No one was tying up their man.
This team was one of the real cupcakes on the schedule. They play like this, you think they'll beat the Cowboys/Giants, hell, even the 'Skins? How bout the Bears? Seattle? New Orleans? I'm not seeing it. They've had bad games, but this takes the cake.
Quote from: SunMo on September 09, 2007, 08:23:32 PM
but they ran a stupid flea flicker on the 2nd play of the game...terrible
I think you meant genius :paranoid
it was sad that they made no attempt to just run the farging ball. I would have been happy just to see Hunt out there running people over in the 4th
Quote from: MadMarchHare on September 09, 2007, 08:25:37 PM
That's all bullshtein. McNabb was statuesque today. He isn't ready yet.
I said the OL looked like shtein not just because of the sacks, but the batted balls. No one was tying up their man.
This team was one of the real cupcakes on the schedule. They play like this, you think they'll beat the Cowboys/Giants, hell, even the 'Skins? How bout the Bears? Seattle? New Orleans? I'm not seeing it. They've had bad games, but this takes the cake.
4-12 :-D
10-6
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 09, 2007, 08:26:02 PM
Quote from: SunMo on September 09, 2007, 08:23:32 PM
but they ran a stupid flea flicker on the 2nd play of the game...terrible
I think you meant genius :paranoid
it was sad that they made no attempt to just run the farging ball. I would have been happy just to see Hunt out there running people over in the 4th
The second half Hunt should have at least seen the field. That's another infuriatin thing about Reid. He steadfastly and stubbornly refuses to actually USE the rookies that he drafts at the start of the season. I saw Peterson made a nice play... would be nice if our rooks could be used outside of special teams to see if they can play worth a damn against non-college competition.
aren't mike lewis and chad morton available
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 09, 2007, 08:35:18 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 09, 2007, 08:26:02 PM
Quote from: SunMo on September 09, 2007, 08:23:32 PM
but they ran a stupid flea flicker on the 2nd play of the game...terrible
I think you meant genius :paranoid
it was sad that they made no attempt to just run the farging ball. I would have been happy just to see Hunt out there running people over in the 4th
The second half Hunt should have at least seen the field. That's another infuriatin thing about Reid. He steadfastly and stubbornly refuses to actually USE the rookies that he drafts at the start of the season. I saw Peterson made a nice play... would be nice if our rooks could be used outside of special teams to see if they can play worth a damn against non-college competition.
And i would never compare Peterson to Hunt but just let the guy get you positive yards. Buck really seemed useless all preseason and today
There's no comparing Hunt to Peterson other than one actually got a chance to make a play and the other might as well have stayed home. Buck's 5 yards on 4 carries was super impressive and all but it would have been nice to see if Hunt can do anything against NFL starters. Just a wild thought....
when you have early success running the ball, everyone knows you go right into shotgun formation for the rest of the game, especially with a qb with a recent acl repair.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on September 09, 2007, 08:25:37 PM
They've had bad games, but this takes the cake.
:-D
Overreact much?
I had to watch the entire game with all of my fat farg, blue collar icehole Packer fan inlaws.
You tell me.
Well then the answer is yes.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on September 09, 2007, 08:51:55 PM
I had to watch the entire game with all of my fat farg, blue collar icehole Packer fan inlaws.
You tell me.
you should have killed one of them and made chili with their remains. Then fed it back to the rest of them as payback
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 09, 2007, 08:55:05 PM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on September 09, 2007, 08:51:55 PM
I had to watch the entire game with all of my fat farg, blue collar icehole Packer fan inlaws.
You tell me.
you should have killed one of them and made chili with their remains. Then fed it back to the rest of them as payback
Served with a nice chianti and Favre beans.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 09, 2007, 08:55:05 PM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on September 09, 2007, 08:51:55 PM
I had to watch the entire game with all of my fat farg, blue collar icehole Packer fan inlaws.
You tell me.
you should have killed one of them and made chili with their remains. Then fed it back to the rest of them as payback
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/245298/cartman_evil_genius_sweet_revenge/
"The tears of unfathomable sadness...Yummy" :-D
i dont think the season is lost but the coaching staff really shows its brain farts again.
i think if there is one thing we have learned under reid is that the team will have bad losses like this and they seem to bounce back pretty well for the rest of the season. reid will not be fired cause i dont see this team going 4-12 or even 7-9.
I had the team going 11-5 and this was one of my losses so the Eagles are right on track for where I have them.
so is it time to start the official eagles taterskins game thread?
Sikahema says Mahe received a few text messages from the Eagles and may be coming to town to work out....
chant to the tune of The Revenge of the Nerds final scene:
RENO RENO RENO RENO RENORENORENORENORENORENO!
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 09, 2007, 11:51:42 PM
Sikahema says Mahe received a few text messages from the Eagles and may be coming to town to work out....
:-D
Just when you think they're finally rid of someone... oh well, Lewis' continued presence has bothered me even more than Reno, if they cut Lewis to bring him in it's a net positive. If they cut Reed, I'm not so sure.
I wish greg would get a tongue reduction so i could uhndersthand hfim.
Bloom > Mahe
Reed > Mahe on KR.
still can't figure out the bloom cut. did he fumble during the pre-season? i know they were bummed because he didn't break one but hey if the guy can hold onto the rock, well the birds would be 1-0.
Cutting Bloom would have been fine if they actually signed someone to replace him. The error wasn't in cutting Bloom. The error was in not getting a replacement.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 09, 2007, 10:05:05 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 09, 2007, 09:05:42 PMServed with a nice chianti..
Teetotaler wine advice. Ha
More of a botched movie quote...
Should have been "Served with Favre beans and a nice Chianti..."
Oh. I don't really watch movies..never would've known.
Okay, we chalk up McNabb's performance to his injury. How long do we give him? Does he get a pass all year since it was a bad injury?
hes not gonna be right all year...hes not gonna be as bad as today but its gonna take 5-8 games to get him comfortable...as i said last night carson palmer still isnt 100% after his injury
and the people chalking this off to the typical reid opening game hiccup are going to be sorely mistaken...im not ready to go 4-12 but the playoffs are out of the question...reids horrible coaching is one thing but now pair that up with the few years of player aquisition whiffs and you have an older injury prone team that doesnt contain a whole lot of top end talent...and on top of that the one advantage they always had in the division and conference was mcnabb...and now that is gone as well due to the injury
It's one game, man.
Calm down.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 10, 2007, 06:51:52 AM
Okay, we chalk up McNabb's performance to his injury. How long do we give him? Does he get a pass all year since it was a bad injury?
hes not gonna be right all year...hes not gonna be as bad as today but its gonna take 5-8 games to get him comfortable...as i said last night carson palmer still isnt 100% after his injury
and the people chalking this off to the typical reid opening game hiccup are going to be sorely mistaken...im not ready to go 4-12 but the playoffs are out of the question...reids horrible coaching is one thing but now pair that up with the few years of player aquisition whiffs and you have an older injury prone team that doesnt contain a whole lot of top end talent...and on top of that the one advantage they always had in the division and conference was mcnabb...and now that is gone as well due to the injury
When do the Kevin Kolb chants at the Linc start?
If we lose to the Racists I'm going to explode.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 10, 2007, 07:17:05 AM
It's one game, man.
Calm down.
no the season is over. im already looking at the 08 mock drafts!
The Eagles did just about everything conceivable to lose that game yesterday and they still had a decent chance to win despite themselves.
Suggesting the season is over and that the playoffs are an unreachable goal after one three point loss is silly.
I'm just as disgusted as anyone over yesterday's game, but Jesus Christ, a little perspective please?
i said no damnit!
:boom
3-13!.... 3-13!!!!!!!!!!!!
This games outcome was written all over the wall. When 1/2 of your family is in jail, whats the percentage of having your head ready to coach a football team? The answer is easy, and his coaching showed it yesterday on a ton of plays
I dont blame this loss on McNabb what-so-ever
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 10, 2007, 07:42:11 AM
The Eagles did just about everything conceivable to lose that game yesterday and they still had a decent chance to win despite themselves.
Suggesting the season is over and that the playoffs are an unreachable goal after one three point loss is silly.
I'm just as disgusted as anyone over yesterday's game, but Jesus Christ, a little perspective please?
Yeah! That would be comforting if the Pack wasn't one of the worst teams on our schedule. We'd sure be close in the end against the Patriots if we played like that. No reason to panic. ALL IS WELL!
Quote from: MadMarchHare on September 10, 2007, 08:07:51 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 10, 2007, 07:42:11 AM
The Eagles did just about everything conceivable to lose that game yesterday and they still had a decent chance to win despite themselves.
Suggesting the season is over and that the playoffs are an unreachable goal after one three point loss is silly.
I'm just as disgusted as anyone over yesterday's game, but Jesus Christ, a little perspective please?
Yeah! That would be comforting if the Pack wasn't one of the worst teams on our schedule. We'd sure be close in the end against the Patriots if we played like that. No reason to panic. ALL IS WELL!
i really wouldnt use that as justification for doom and gloom. seen enough football to know that teams lose to inferior teams now and then. pats lost to the bills badly a couple of yrs ago and won the superbowl.
not saying thats us but losing to a bad team week 1 does not mean the season is over.
not addressing need positions, being stubborn and not running, and not adjusting within games is what will eventually cost us the season....maybe in the playoffs. not losing to GB.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 10, 2007, 07:17:05 AM
It's one game, man.
Calm down.
lemme get this straight...you can predict 10-6 or 11-5 after zero games but other people after having seen the team actually play a game cant predict 8-8
You sound like a hysterical bitch, dude.
There it is. Deal with it.
i speak in realism....you speak in spadaro gummy bear and lollipop dream sequences
I love gummy bears.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 09, 2007, 05:39:59 PM
i thought the oline played well after a rough start...mcnabb had crazy amounts of time on numerous pass plays in the second half...without seeing the actual film i cant tell if the wr's couldnt get open or if mcnabb wouldnt pull the trigger but damn he held the ball way to long on so many plays
i agree with the kotite looks...i dont know if reids home life is affecting him or not because hes always benn a disgraceful game day coach but damn he looked absolutely lost today
the inside the 5 series where he threw two passes that didnt cross the goalline
having buck run the ball on 1st and ten with 4 minutes left...westbrook the teams best player by far wasnt even in the game
Agree across the board. I can't count the number of times when I shouted "throw the farging ball" yesterday. I think McNabb had his eyes on the rush yesterday, rather than down the field.
Quote from: King Cole on September 09, 2007, 08:15:07 PM
What the hell are you talking about? His injury had nothing to do with it. He was running around all over out there breaking tackles.
He was running around because he was taking too long to get rid of the ball. Like IGY said, we can't tell if the WRs were open, but it looked to me like he was skittish about the rush.
As for special teams, how the farg can they be so quick on the trigger with Bloom when they put up with Mahe for so long. I think Reed will be fine with kick returns, but that was just a bad decision back at PR - he was trying to be a hero because it looked like that punt was going to roll deep.
Frankly, I think letting Harbaugh change jobs was the mistake of the year. Correction on the previous comment - they aren't grooming him to replace JJ, they are putting him on track to get a HC job somewhere else. Special Teams coaches don't get HC jobs. It is OK to help out your staffers when you can, but if you think you have a serious shot at the Super Bowl, you don't seriously farg with your team to do a guy a favor. Harbaugh could have waited a year or two until Kolb's first season (rebuilding year) when the impact of zesty special teams would be a lot less of a big deal.
Mcdermmot seems to be next in line to coach the D
As for special teams, how the farg can they be so quick on the trigger with Bloom when they put up with Mahe for so long
i dont understand how you invest two years in a guy (a project nonetheless) and then never actually let him play a down...the only reason i can think of is that his toe is hurt worse than we know and he wasnt physically able to play this week and reid didnt wanna take up a roster spot with a injured PR
The thing about Bloom is he seemed to have field presence, he knew where he was in space and when to fair catch, when to let it go. G Lew has none of that, and JR Reed is a Kick Returner who is slow. Watching other games yesterday it became painfully apparent that this team will not return any kicks beyond the 50 mark. They are too slow, both physically and mentally
well lewis and reed being back there is an entirely unrelated situation to bloom...whether you agree with bloom being cut or not is one thing but once hes cut you dont put those two guys back there...
i would imagine reids thought process with regards to putting westbrook or lito at PR would be "only in an emergency"...well guess farging what...having two guys who have never returned punts in their entire life back there qualifies as an emergency...if not at the start of the game then definitely in a tied game with a minute left
Quote from: Cerevant on September 10, 2007, 08:49:10 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 09, 2007, 05:39:59 PM
i thought the oline played well after a rough start...mcnabb had crazy amounts of time on numerous pass plays in the second half...without seeing the actual film i cant tell if the wr's couldnt get open or if mcnabb wouldnt pull the trigger but damn he held the ball way to long on so many plays
i agree with the kotite looks...i dont know if reids home life is affecting him or not because hes always benn a disgraceful game day coach but damn he looked absolutely lost today
the inside the 5 series where he threw two passes that didnt cross the goalline
having buck run the ball on 1st and ten with 4 minutes left...westbrook the teams best player by far wasnt even in the game
Agree across the board. I can't count the number of times when I shouted "throw the farging ball" yesterday. I think McNabb had his eyes on the rush yesterday, rather than down the field.
Quote from: King Cole on September 09, 2007, 08:15:07 PM
What the hell are you talking about? His injury had nothing to do with it. He was running around all over out there breaking tackles.
He was running around because he was taking too long to get rid of the ball. Like IGY said, we can't tell if the WRs were open, but it looked to me like he was skittish about the rush.
As for special teams, how the farg can they be so quick on the trigger with Bloom when they put up with Mahe for so long. I think Reed will be fine with kick returns, but that was just a bad decision back at PR - he was trying to be a hero because it looked like that punt was going to roll deep.
Frankly, I think letting Harbaugh change jobs was the mistake of the year. Correction on the previous comment - they aren't grooming him to replace JJ, they are putting him on track to get a HC job somewhere else. Special Teams coaches don't get HC jobs. It is OK to help out your staffers when you can, but if you think you have a serious shot at the Super Bowl, you don't seriously farg with your team to do a guy a favor. Harbaugh could have waited a year or two until Kolb's first season (rebuilding year) when the impact of zesty special teams would be a lot less of a big deal.
I can't agree more. The run/pass mix was fine. This is the same offensive coordinator who made Jeff Garcia back into a good QB. You can't blame the playcalling when your QB checks-down to the RB on key goalline plays. I'm not calling for McNabb's job or saying the season is over but I'm objectively trying to evaluate their performance. I know this is a pro-McNabb board and I'm a McNabb guy, but the Kolb pick was the right thing for this team for the future. I'm torn as to whether bring back Mahe or see if Bloom can do it. As IGY said, how do you develop the guy for two years and not give him a chance in the season?
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 10, 2007, 09:04:48 AM
well lewis and reed being back there is an entirely unrelated situation to bloom...whether you agree with bloom being cut or not is one thing but once hes cut you dont put those two guys back there...
i would imagine reids thought process with regards to putting westbrook or lito at PR would be "only in an emergency"...well guess farging what...having two guys who have never returned punts in their entire life back there qualifies as an emergency...if not at the start of the game then definitely in a tied game with a minute left
thats what makes no sense, you have westbrook, your 75th anniversary best PR sitting there. Why not just put him out there just to Fair catch the farging ball. Instead fatass sends a guy who had only returned one PR in his entire career and that was 15 minutes earlier. That was the biggest mental lapse i think i've ever seen Reid do. Absolutely pathetic game plan and execution
Quote from: Philly Crew on September 10, 2007, 09:14:33 AM
You can't blame the playcalling when your QB checks-down to the RB on key goalline plays.
he went to westbrook too quickly for it to be a checkdown...especially on the 3rd down play. that was definitely designed for him. they even had a lineman pulling out there, like some half assed screen. it was just a poor play call.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 10, 2007, 09:17:19 AM
That was the biggest mental lapse i think i've ever seen Reid do. Absolutely pathetic game plan and execution
that's supposedly why Marty is calling the plays...so Andy can be more in tuned to game situations, it obviously didn't help this time.
it wasnt even a mental lapse...its what he planned to do all week...lewis and if not lewis then jr...he just didnt deviate from that because of his legendary stubborness
i feel like if bloom had made the team and gone into yesteday as the PR and got hurt in the 3rd quarter reid would have went into emergency mode and put westbrook back there but because he had in his head that those two guys (jr and lewis) and only those two he was going with them no matter what
The legendary "plug & pray" principle employed ad nauseum by Reid didn't work with respect to the return game yesterday.
Shocker, huh?
Westbrook:
Quoteif not at the start of the game then definitely in a tied game with a minute left
No question, not the start of the game, but the end
Comment on WIP this morning:
"If Charlie Manuel had gone into a game with a 3rd baseman that had never played there before, he'd be getting killed."
Quote from: SunMo on September 10, 2007, 09:19:15 AM
Quote from: Philly Crew on September 10, 2007, 09:14:33 AM
You can't blame the playcalling when your QB checks-down to the RB on key goalline plays.
he went to westbrook too quickly for it to be a checkdown...especially on the 3rd down play. that was definitely designed for him. they even had a lineman pulling out there, like some half assed screen. it was just a poor play call.
He's got to hold the ball longer and stare downfield to sell the LB and Safety to clear room for Westbrook. Getting the ball in Westbrook's hands is not a bad thing. It didn't help when Westbrook had that string where he couldn't catch the ball.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 10, 2007, 10:01:48 AM
Comment on WIP this morning:
"If Charlie Manuel had gone into a game with a 3rd baseman that had never played there before, he'd be getting killed."
Which is more the funny because the same people are screaming for Iguchi to play 3rd.
Reid: "Greg, hurry up...get over here!"
GLew: "Yeah coach?"
Reid: "You feel like returning a kick?"
GLew: "Ummm...yeah...sure I guess."
Reid: "Jobs yours."
Keep up the good work Andy.
Quote from: Wingspan on September 10, 2007, 10:03:31 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 10, 2007, 10:01:48 AM
Comment on WIP this morning:
"If Charlie Manuel had gone into a game with a 3rd baseman that had never played there before, he'd be getting killed."
Which is more the funny because the same people are screaming for Iguchi to play 3rd.
first of all, people are killing Andy Reid, so that makes no farging sense
second of all, Iguchi is still a better option than what they have
McNabb generally looked like shtein yesterday. Worse decisions than usual. Worse awareness than usual. Worse agility than usual. Generally, the offense had no sense of urgency and looked lethargic the whole game.
McNabb is not 100% and thus this team will do no better than 10-6 and will be a relative non-factor in the playoffs.
this team is not a playoff team...and if they go 0-2 monday like i expect them too then mmh's 4-12 is looking more and more likely
stop it
Seagrest needs to be hung up for not explaining to JR Reed to not attempt to get the ball unless its coming directly to him. Thats basic coaching.
You'd think with the special teams being such an obvious problem, the offense would have really gotten it together and put the game out of reach.
I'll say it again: Donovan looked like warm vomit, and he probably should not be playing football right now.
Yesterday was the first game in forever 'THE EAGLES' didn't run one of those fake hand offs to the left, play action, throw it deeps, which I wouldn't have minded seeing.
I feel good knowing that Reid shoulders this loss. It's big of him to do. I feel totally, totally good now about yesterday's game and this team. Go Eagles!
mcnabb looked like vomit? lol he didnt look like himself but he wasnt terrible. and you know what a good game day coach would have recognized that hey maybe my QB is not having the best of days...and he is coming back from a serious injury...you know maybe i should just use westbrook, buck, and even hunt a lot more. the run pass ratio might have been good considering this teams history but in the 2nd half it was atrocious. it seemed like we played the whole 2nd half out of shotgun.
it reminded me of that game against the pats a few seasons ago where mcnabbs thumb was hurt and the pats were absolutely killing him with hit after hit and reid kept calling passing plays and i feared for mcnabbs safety.
McNabb looked bad dude. It seemed like he was overwhelmed at the speed of the game or something. He was definately looking at the rush more than he was looking downfield and that's a mental thing that he's going to have to overcome. Right now his tendency is to probably protect himself first before looking to make a play. He did do a few things well but overall I'd say this was easily the worst game of his career.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 10, 2007, 02:11:21 PM
He did do a few things well but overall I'd say this was easily the worst game of his career.
overall i'd say this is easily the dumbest thing you've ever said
i know they did that misdirection chest pass toss to westbrook twice yesterday on 3rd and ones but something they need to do a lot more of and this has been the case for years now is toss sweep westbrook more...they run him between the tackles way to much
Quote from: SunMo on September 10, 2007, 02:17:56 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 10, 2007, 02:11:21 PM
He did do a few things well but overall I'd say this was easily the worst game of his career.
overall i'd say this is easily the dumbest thing you've ever said
Post season aside of course. ;)
I'm really hard pressed to think of a regular season game where he's looked worse. Maybe when he was a rookie or 2nd year player but the expectations weren't as high for him then either. If you know of a game, say in the last 6 years that he looked worse in then by all means, remind me of it.
he was easily worse in that new england game in 03 i think...the second game of the season
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 10, 2007, 02:24:19 PM
Quote from: SunMo on September 10, 2007, 02:17:56 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 10, 2007, 02:11:21 PM
He did do a few things well but overall I'd say this was easily the worst game of his career.
overall i'd say this is easily the dumbest thing you've ever said
Post season aside of course. ;)
I'm really hard pressed to think of a regular season game where he's looked worse. Maybe when he was a rookie or 2nd year player but the expectations weren't as high for him then either. If you know of a game, say in the last 6 years that he looked worse in then by all means, remind me of it.
The opening of the Linc, and the pats game in week 2...then the falcons opener after the superbowl season...
How about last year's game vs. Tampa/Tenesse? or the NFC Championship vs. Tampa/Carolina? Those were worse than yesterday?
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 10, 2007, 02:26:53 PM
he was easily worse in that new england game in 03 i think...the second game of the season
Good call. He was terrible in that game and I'd have to agree with you on that but I still don't think he was individually bad that game.
The Pats made the Eagles look terrible as a whole. GB did nothing in my opinion to handcuff McNabb yesterday. He was just bad on his own.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 10, 2007, 02:26:53 PM
he was easily worse in that new england game in 03 i think...the second game of the season
easily...
or the tampa game before that
or the tampa game last year where he threw 2 pick sixes
or the jax game last year
or
or
or
farging sarge stepped into a pile of shtein this time
by the time we're done, this might be one of donovan's best games
KOLBSY :D
Every loss is the worst loss ever.
yeah see you can name a number of other games, not in his rooke or 2nd yr, where he looked worse.
im not saying he looked like his old self or that he was amazing...just that he wasnt as bad as some ppl think and even if he was that bad you kind of have to expect some bumps in the recovery. the whole point was that when you know your qb is hobbled, you protect him and run the ball esp if he cant seem to find anyone open or seems to be holding on to the ball for too long.
yeah jacksonville last year was pretty bad too
but it was windy
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 10, 2007, 02:32:08 PM
yeah see you can name a number of other games, not in his rooke or 2nd yr, where he looked worse.
im not saying he looked like his old self or that he was amazing...just that he wasnt as bad as some ppl think and even if he was that bad you kind of have to expect some bumps in the recovery. the whole point was that when you know your qb is hobbled, you protect him and run the ball esp if he cant seem to find anyone open or seems to be holding on to the ball for too long.
Mcnabb looked better than AJ did against the jets ^-^
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 10, 2007, 02:32:32 PM
yeah jacksonville last year was pretty bad too
but it was windy
and teh fat farg thought in those winds you should throw it 50 times rather than run the ball
Quote from: SunMo on September 10, 2007, 02:30:37 PM
farging sarge stepped into a pile of shtein this time
by the time we're done, this might be one of donovan's best games
The games you guys are bringing up are terrible games by McNabb. But I still don't think they were worse than he looked yesterday because those teams were just beating the Eagles down. The Packers weren't doing that yesterday.
haha....you're stupid
And you're wrong. So there.
Quote from: Wingspan on September 10, 2007, 02:31:14 PM
Every loss is the worst loss ever.
thats the truth right there.
and the jax game...reid prolly thought mcnabb would prolly throw bullets thru the air into the chests of the WRs and leave them looking like 50 cent.
in fact his infatuation with bullets is what prolly caused his sons to go get guns.
The JAX game last year and the WAS game at the Vet in 2001 were his worst that I can remember. I think they lost to WAS like 13-3 and Donovan was putrid.
Yesterday he was off. It had nothing to do with his knee, IMO. It was all about the timing not being there and the OL getting blown back. Herremans and Andrews got pimped a little too much.
2 holding calls on andrews, i don't think i've ever seen that
haha
The first one was a definite hold, I thought the second one was ticky-tack though. But then again it's Mike Carey's crew and they're the ones who got everyone's favorite BYU product Scott Young in NO last year.
But even when he wasn't holding, he wasn't his usual self. I guess he'll need another week or two to get into game shape since he missed all of camp and the PS.
Jamaal Jackson missed ona few blocks yesterday too.
yeah jamal was horrible as was herremans
im thinking andrews ankle isnt solid yet...rewatching some of the game last night i noticed he was reaching a lot rather than planting and driving
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 10, 2007, 02:43:56 PM
yeah jamal was horrible as was herremans
im thinking andrews ankle isnt solid yet...rewatching some of the game last night i noticed he was reaching a lot rather than planting and driving
Yep, it was really noticeable when he was pass blocking because he wasn't balanced. His lower body was too far behind his upper body...so he was off balanced and top heavy.
Quote from: SunMo on September 10, 2007, 02:29:36 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 10, 2007, 02:26:53 PM
he was easily worse in that new england game in 03 i think...the second game of the season
easily...
or the tampa game before that
or the tampa game last year where he threw 2 pick sixes
or the jax game last year
or
or
or
:-D :-D
where the jeff garcia, he had the heart of a champion
Quote from: MDS on September 10, 2007, 02:52:12 PM
where the jeff garcia, he had the heart of a champion
he got a concussion running for his life
Go Flyers.
Special teams problems. Now we are back to this? The fargin cycle of hopelessness. Knock the fargin rust off already, the season started yesterday for christ sake.
The refs were an atrocity yesterday. But the good news was, it was awful both ways, so probably didn't have a net effect.
McNabb was crappy, but part of that was due to the true worst player on offense yesterday: Reggie Brown. Dude could not get open all game. McNabb kept looking right at him, then looking elsewhere because there were Packers all over Brown. It's gonna be a long season if the #1 receiver on the Eagles can't beat out any defenders.
Actually, it would be awfully familiar.
But now McNabb can't buy the time he used to.
Heck, Trotter could probably run him down.
McNabb was rusty yesterday, but Isn't that to be expected? I agree with QB Eagles also, were the heck was Brown the whole game?? What did he have, one catch?
Greg Lewis cost us that game yesterday, plain and simple. He looked lost out there. I've never seen such a terrible return game as we had yesterday. It was awful. And the bad thing is, it won't get much better unless they put Westbrook back there, or someone who can at least fair catch the friggen' ball. What the heck was GL thinkin'?
On the bright side, the defense looked decent, and we had success running the ball.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 10, 2007, 07:51:02 PM
But now McNabb can't buy the time he used to.
Heck, Trotter could probably run him down.
I don't think so. McNabb was running out of tackles yesterday, not all the time but he showed good mobility to me considering he's playing on a knee thats around 80%.
Quote from: shorebird on September 10, 2007, 07:55:15 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 10, 2007, 07:51:02 PM
But now McNabb can't buy the time he used to.
Heck, Trotter could probably run him down.
I don't think so. McNabb was running out of tackles yesterday, not all the time but he showed good mobility to me considering he's playing on a knee thats around 80%.
He was breaking tackles, but he seemed darn slow. It was even mentioned in the game thread - by more than just me.
Could be the fact that the knee isn't 100%, but he seemed slow to me.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 10, 2007, 08:30:12 PM
Quote from: shorebird on September 10, 2007, 07:55:15 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 10, 2007, 07:51:02 PM
But now McNabb can't buy the time he used to.
Heck, Trotter could probably run him down.
I don't think so. McNabb was running out of tackles yesterday, not all the time but he showed good mobility to me considering he's playing on a knee thats around 80%.
He was breaking tackles, but he seemed darn slow. It was even mentioned in the game thread - by more than just me.
Could be the fact that the knee isn't 100%, but he seemed slow to me.
He didn't seem slow, he was slow. And I mentioned that in the game thread as well. But he did look strong in the sense that he did shed several would be tacklers in the backfield. He definately didn't have any explosiveness to him and he didn't even attempt to make any juke moves the couple of times he took off running. He pretty much took the yardage he could and then headed for the sidelines.
My biggest concern was that he just looked lost and it was against a defense that wasn't throwing him a lot of complex pass rushes or defenses. He just seemed like he was trying to catch up with the speed of the game and couldn't. He wasn't looking at his recievers right away but instead was checking out the pass rush and he wasn't looking off the safeties and linebackers either. He was just locked into his reciever and letting it go.
When McNabb tore his ACL last year, I wasn't really worried about him making it back by opening day. My concern was that he wouldn't mentally be ready to play on his knee and that seemed to be the case yesterday. He was tentative in the pocket and probably a little scared to take a hit. Maybe he has a better showing this week now that he has a full game under his belt and didn't hurt his knee. I don't know how long it will take. But until he regains that confidence in his knee again I think we're going to see more performances like the one we saw yesterday.
definately no "giddy-up" in his step like were used to. line played like shtein though in his defense. I hardly ever recall the Packers sending the house. 4 man rush was in his face throughout the game.
So when are they bringing in a punt returner?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 10, 2007, 08:41:11 PM
He didn't seem slow, he was slow. And I mentioned that in the game thread as well. But he did look strong in the sense that he did shed several would be tacklers in the backfield. He definately didn't have any explosiveness to him and he didn't even attempt to make any juke moves the couple of times he took off running. He pretty much took the yardage he could and then headed for the sidelines.
My biggest concern was that he just looked lost and it was against a defense that wasn't throwing him a lot of complex pass rushes or defenses. He just seemed like he was trying to catch up with the speed of the game and couldn't. He wasn't looking at his recievers right away but instead was checking out the pass rush and he wasn't looking off the safeties and linebackers either. He was just locked into his reciever and letting it go.
When McNabb tore his ACL last year, I wasn't really worried about him making it back by opening day. My concern was that he wouldn't mentally be ready to play on his knee and that seemed to be the case yesterday. He was tentative in the pocket and probably a little scared to take a hit. Maybe he has a better showing this week now that he has a full game under his belt and didn't hurt his knee. I don't know how long it will take. But until he regains that confidence in his knee again I think we're going to see more performances like the one we saw yesterday.
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Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 10, 2007, 08:41:11 PM
He was tentative in the pocket and probably a little scared to take a hit. Maybe he has a better showing this week now that he has a full game under his belt and didn't hurt his knee. I don't know how long it will take. But until he regains that confidence in his knee again I think we're going to see more performances like the one we saw yesterday.
He'll be alright, it was the first game after an injury with a long layoff. We'll be seeing more games like yesterday if his no. 1 reciever can't get open.
btw...when the Ravens dedicated kick/punt returner got hurt, they put their all pro safety back there, and he returned it for a touchdown
the eagles casually threw their 5th wideout back there and hoped for the best
good times
Reid's putting Shawn Andrews back there next week.
Quote from: SunMo on September 10, 2007, 09:51:36 PM
btw...when the Ravens dedicated kick/punt returner got hurt, they put their all pro safety back there, and he returned it for a touchdown
the eagles casually threw their 5th wideout back there and hoped for the best
good times
That is why Billick has a Super Bowl ring.
Billick's a terrible coach, but he can even get a punt returner right, it just goes to show how bad Reid farged it up.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 10, 2007, 09:55:41 PM
Reid's putting Shawn Andrews back there next week.
I consider that an upgrade.
Quote from: SunMo on September 10, 2007, 10:01:53 PM
Billick's a terrible coach, but he can even get a punt returner right, it just goes to show how bad Reid farged it up.
Your right he is a terrible coach with a ring. Reid is just a terrible coach.
yup
I keep scanning PFT, KFFL, PE.com, etc. for some blurb about the Eagles being active in terms of correcting the position. So far, I've only found this drivel (on PE.com naturally):
Quote"Obviously we made too many mistakes. I'll take the blame for that, in particular in the punt return game," Reid said. "It's my responsibility to put guys back there than can do a better job and so that's again my responsibility and my problem."
QuoteThe coach vowed to have the return game sorted out by the time the Eagles take the field against the taterskins in the home opener on Monday night, but said he was not sure whether the solution would come from within the organization or from a new addition.
I'll farging kill someone if they don't bring
somebody in.
Quote"Obviously we thought we could get it done with the guys we had there and it didn't work out this game," Reid reiterated. "Again, I'm not ruling out the guys that are here either, that's my responsibility to have it right and I didn't get this one right."
Oh.....motherfarger. Fat motherfarger. Fix it you stubborn bastich!
I'm sick of hearing his limp dick excuses about taking responsibility. No one's buying it anymore fat boy.
JUST fargING FIX IT and save your mea culpa's for the cultists at BYU.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 10, 2007, 10:00:40 PM
Quote from: SunMo on September 10, 2007, 09:51:36 PM
btw...when the Ravens dedicated kick/punt returner got hurt, they put their all pro safety back there, and he returned it for a touchdown
the eagles casually threw their 5th wideout back there and hoped for the best
good times
That is why Billick has a Super Bowl ring.
Is that why he threw on 4th and goal from the 1? :-D
Quote from: Wingspan on September 10, 2007, 10:43:06 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 10, 2007, 10:00:40 PM
Quote from: SunMo on September 10, 2007, 09:51:36 PM
btw...when the Ravens dedicated kick/punt returner got hurt, they put their all pro safety back there, and he returned it for a touchdown
the eagles casually threw their 5th wideout back there and hoped for the best
good times
That is why Billick has a Super Bowl ring.
Is that why he threw on 4th and goal from the 1? :-D
Haha, the guy I'm playing in fantasy had Heap. Both of our teams put up like 70 more points then everyone else in the league. Now I'm only down by 3 with Rackers left.
Reno working out tomorrow.
As per CSN.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 10, 2007, 11:10:15 PM
Reno working out tomorrow.
As per CSN.
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Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 10, 2007, 11:10:15 PM
Reno working out tomorrow.
As per CSN.
God help us he'd be an upgrade at this point. Damn, that's depressing.
It's weird how the Eagles have like this constellation of out-of-work guys no other team is ever interested in, that they can always fall back on. I wouldn't mind seeing them trying someone new for once. If BWest goes down injured, who gets the call first? Ryan Moats or Bruce Perry? Maybe Dorsey Levens?
It infuriates me that Reno Mahe will have to come back.
It also infuriates me that I see other teams draft fast guys who can return shtein while the Eagles continuously take project OL late or guys who have no return experience. They should have kept Bloom.
And it was funny, apparently Vai said that Reno got his first text from the Eagles WHILE THE GAME WAS STILL GOING ON!
They should have seen Bloom in a real GAME before they cut him. farging nimrods....
7,000,000,000 people in the world and the Eagles best (and seemingly ONLY) option at this point is Reno Mahe.
Amazing.
It has become utterly apparent that the Eagles only care about securing the football on punts because their QB and offense are so dynamic
Quote from: reese125 on September 11, 2007, 07:35:43 AM
It has become utterly apparent that the Eagles only care about securing the football on punts because their QB and offense are so dynamic
Funny, but wouldn't NOT turning it over on returns be a step in the right direction, regardless of the offense right now? I contend it would.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 11, 2007, 08:25:42 AM
Quote from: reese125 on September 11, 2007, 07:35:43 AM
It has become utterly apparent that the Eagles only care about securing the football on punts because their QB and offense are so dynamic
Funny, but wouldn't NOT turning it over on returns be a step in the right direction, regardless of the offense right now? I contend it would.
It would at least at this point make the Eagles 1-0 instead of 0-1.
Not having Andy Reid would at least at this point make the Eagles 1-0 instead of 0-1.
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 11, 2007, 01:31:19 AM
They should have seen Bloom in a real GAME before they cut him. farging nimrods....
I agree but with this stubborn SOB, he was not going to bring back Bloom. I don't even know if Bloom is better than Mahe but at least bring them both back in and have them compete for a day. But we all know AR can't admit he shouldn't have cut a guy unless they come back groveling to him so that he is saving face when he brings them back.
I agree its like they only have information on a small universe of guys and they have no clue about guys in the rest of the league.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 11, 2007, 09:23:44 AM
Not having Andy Reid would at least at this point make the Eagles 1-0 instead of 0-1.
during runyans monday nite radio show a caller asked him what grade hed give andy reid for the gb game and he said "a D"....it was awesome but at the same time i couldnt believe it
I hope he'd give himself and the offensive line a big fat "F" then because they sucked holy ass on Sunday as a group.
I think Runyan is definately at a point in his career/life where he could give a farg what Reid and Co. think.
All this talk of Jeremy Bloom coming back......I wonder if he told the Eagles to kiss his ass. Wouldn't surprise me. Imagine you are him, and they cut you, only two replace you with two bums, who you are most definately more capable than. You might be inclined to catch on somewhere else at that point.
thats exactly what i was thinking when he said it pp...hes a short timer with nothing to lose
i think people need to ease up on bloom being better than almost anyone not named lewis or reed...i mean the guy did absolutely nothing...i personally would have kept him and gave him a shot...but the bigger problem is spending two years on a project that didnt work out and leaving yourself bent over naked in a bath house...and when that does happen going with two guys who have never in their lives done the job youre asking them to do
im just not feeling strong about a campaign to bring bloom back
QuoteFunny, but wouldn't NOT turning it over on returns be a step in the right direction, regardless of the offense right now? I contend it would.
I dont think its the turnover factor, because they were freakish things that rarely happens, if at all to the Eagles. Its the fact that we dont have anyone that can advance the football (besides Westbrook) more than 15 yards on a kickoff, and 5 yards on a punt.
Its the fact that he going back to Reno JUST to catch thats even more sickening, and STILL not addressing a major void
I dont think its the turnover factor, because they were freakish things that rarely happens, if at all to the Eagles.
kind of like 62 yard fg's at the buzzer
Quote from: PPinDC on September 11, 2007, 09:50:16 AM
I think Runyan is definately at a point in his career/life where he could give a farg what Reid and Co. think.
All this talk of Jeremy Bloom coming back......I wonder if he told the Eagles to kiss his ass. Wouldn't surprise me. Imagine you are him, and they cut you, only two replace you with two bums, who you are most definately more capable than. You might be inclined to catch on somewhere else at that point.
there has to be more going on with Bloom than we know. Its was easily apparent that he was quicker than what we ever had back there, and the fact he didnt get a shot should justify even more.
That injury must be a lingering thing and the staff knew it. His abilities become null n void
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2007, 09:55:30 AM
i think people need to ease up on bloom being better than almost anyone not named lewis or reed
My point is he is was better than Lewis or Reed. That's the rub. Get rid of a guy, who is your number one option at the time (number one mostly because he CAN FIELD the punts and kickoffs), and replace him with two guys, who at the time you released Bloom weren't even what you would consider number two or three.
Quote from: reese125 on September 11, 2007, 10:16:05 AM
there has to be more going on with Bloom than we know. Its was easily apparent that he was quicker than what we ever had back there, and the fact he didnt get a shot should justify even more.
That injury must be a lingering thing and the staff knew it. His abilities become null n void
His abilities become null and void? He hurt his toe. Worst case is he has a severe case of turf toe. Even then he could still go out there, catch the ball and farging fall down. That would have been WORLDS better that GLew or Reed out there. Eventually he would get healthy, and you would have a guy that isn't probably world class by any stretch, but was better than what you threw out there in '06....which would mean that you had upgraded the position.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2007, 09:43:21 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 11, 2007, 09:23:44 AM
Not having Andy Reid would at least at this point make the Eagles 1-0 instead of 0-1.
during runyans monday nite radio show a caller asked him what grade hed give andy reid for the gb game and he said "a D"....it was awesome but at the same time i couldnt believe it
I'm not. Runyan's never really been one to toe the company line. Plus he knows that his career is almost finished and probably doesn't want to waste what little chance remains of him winning a SB. He's come within 3 points of winning it twice now.
Need to ease up on it? That's the entire farging point my man. Get rid of a guy, who is your number one option at the time (number one mostly because he CAN FIELD the punts and kickoffs), and replace him with two guys, who at the time you released Bloom weren't even what you would consider number two or three.
im talking about people hollering to bring him back...like hed be some kind of savoir....brian westbrook should be this teams punt returner until a time when they can plug a valid return man in there....and i dont see that happening until next year
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2007, 10:09:49 AM
I dont think its the turnover factor, because they were freakish things that rarely happens, if at all to the Eagles.
kind of like 62 yard fg's at the buzzer
And drive extending kicks to the groin
And fumbled snaps on gw fg attempts
And Jake Plummer to Martay Jenkins
And James Mungro
And fog
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2007, 10:28:12 AM
Need to ease up on it? That's the entire farging point my man. Get rid of a guy, who is your number one option at the time (number one mostly because he CAN FIELD the punts and kickoffs), and replace him with two guys, who at the time you released Bloom weren't even what you would consider number two or three.
im talking about people hollering to bring him back...like hed be some kind of savoir....brian westbrook should be this teams punt returner until a time when they can plug a valid return man in there....and i dont see that happening until next year
Had he been in the Green Bay game, he probably could have acted as savior. All he would have had to do is catch two punts - better yet -
not farging go anywhere near one of them, and bingo! Bloom/Mahe(wretch) save the game! Eagles win 13-3!
QuoteHis abilities become null and void? He hurt his toe. Worst case is he has a severe case of turf toe.
and that worst case has killed many NFL players for an entire season. Dont downplay it, because when you see Bloom out there running like Terry Fox, you'll be the first one calling for his benching
you know what i hope they do not bring reno back. i do not want them to stick with g lewis or reed at punt return (although reed at KR is fine i think), but go find other bums who can field punts and have speed. out of the many players cut im sure there is someone out there who can catch punts and has more speed/agility/vision than reno has. there has to be. but i guess if they were texting reno while the game was being played than they really do not care to look further.
btw the bloom pick is another pefect example of them claiming they addressed the position or that they attempted to thru the draft when ppl bring up how they never really fill the needs. gaddis worked out perfectly as well.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 11, 2007, 10:30:28 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2007, 10:09:49 AM
I dont think its the turnover factor, because they were freakish things that rarely happens, if at all to the Eagles.
kind of like 62 yard fg's at the buzzer
And drive extending kicks to the groin
And fumbled snaps on gw fg attempts
And Jake Plummer to Martay Jenkins
And James Mungro
And fog
And calling a timeout to vomit on the field
And Jim Plunkett
And Scott Young false starting
One of the first games I remember going to was when the Jim Bakken of the Cardinals beat the Eagles on a last second field goal in the mid-1970's. Amazingly the Cardinals were head and shoulders better than the Birds then, so it was actually a pretty big surprise that they were even that close to winning.
Quote from: reese125 on September 11, 2007, 10:34:47 AM
and that worst case has killed many NFL players for an entire season. Dont downplay it, because when you see Bloom out there running like Terry Fox, you'll be the first one calling for his benching
I am talking about his ability to catch the farging ball. In relation to GLew and Reed, Bloom has a healthy farging advantage in terms of ability when your main farging job as a punt returner is to catch the punt. As I said, he could catch the ball, HORRENDUS turf toe and all, and fall down. That would have made him better than what was there Sunday.
Also, being that Bloom has a clue when it comes to being a punt returner, he would know, given his experience, that in the situation where Reed muffed his, you don't attempt to catch the ball. Again, the nugget of knowledge would again demonstrate far more ability as a punt returner that Glew and Reed have . Therefore, his abilities - of which you stated would all be null and void - would not be a remotely accurate statement.
My point is that even if Bloom was farged up and it slowed him down, you can cut him, but only if you have someone else to do the job. Cutting him and replacing him with faster guys does no good if the faster guys farg up the first responsibility of returning punts, which is catch the ball.
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Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2007, 10:09:49 AM
I dont think its the turnover factor, because they were freakish things that rarely happens, if at all to the Eagles.
kind of like 62 yard fg's at the buzzer
And drive extending kicks to the groin
And fumbled snaps on gw fg attempts
And Jake Plummer to Martay Jenkins
And James Mungro
And fog
And calling a timeout to vomit on the field
And Jim Plunkett
And Scott Young false starting
And Mike Michael
And Mike McCormick
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John Smallwood | Birds should call Bloom - but they won't
UNFORTUNATELY, the most logical solution is not likely to be something the Eagles would be inclined to make happen.
Right now, the most sensible thing to do to address the
three-ring circus that was the
Eagles' punt-return game in Sunday's disgusting, 16-13, season-opening loss in Green Bay would be to contact disposed return man Jeremy Bloom and get him to the NovaCare Complex.
I have no idea if Bloom, the return specialist in whom the Eagles invested a year-and-a-half of effort in developing, would be the solution.
Based on the 10 punts and 12 kickoffs Bloom returned in the preseason, the former Olympic skier didn't do anything to suggest he was worth the Birds taking a flyer on him in the fifth round of the 2006 draft.
But Bloom, who hadn't played competitive football in 3 years, didn't fumble a punt that resulted in a touchdown like Greg Lewis did in Green Bay.
And during the preseason, Bloom never made the boneheaded decision to weave through a nest of people and ultimately fumble a punt that should've been left alone like J.R. Reed did in Green Bay.
I'll say without a bit of hesitation that if everything else had played out the same and the only difference against the Packers was that Bloom was the punt returner, we'd be talking about an Eagles victory instead of a loss.
Bloom might not have displayed the big-play return ability that coach Andy Reid and general manager Tom Heckert envisioned when they proudly hinted they stole him in the draft, but at least he showed he could safely catch a punt.
On Sunday, that was all the Eagles needed from their return man. On Monday night against the Washington taterskins, that might be all the Eagles need again.
But I can almost say without a doubt, that re-signing Bloom is not an action that the Eagles will take. No matter how logical it might seem to re-sign Bloom, the player you had been working with almost exclusively as your returner since the first minicamp, the Eagles won't do it.
Even if Bloom were signed just for the taterskins game so the Eagles won't hemorrhage while seeking a better solution, I can't see it happening.
Bringing back Bloom would require Reid and Heckert to also acknowledge that they screwed up by cutting him 9 days before the start of the regular season. Bringing back Bloom would require Reid and Heckert to admit that they had no credible backup plan once they realized Bloom wasn't going to be what they believed he would be. Bringing back Bloom would require the Eagles to acknowledge that they were wrong about too many things leading up to Sunday's fiasco.
Maybe it's stubbornness or perhaps arrogance, but acknowledging those kinds of mistakes just isn't something this organization can easily stomach doing.
"Ah, not necessarily," Reid responded yesterday when asked if he had regrets about putting so much faith in Bloom that he never bothered to bring in anyone to compete with him through training camp and the preseason. "We can look at all the hindsight things right now, but no, not necessarily."
If Reid still can't even admit that running an all-or-nothing gamble on a guy who hadn't played football in three seasons was a mistake, how is he going to bring Bloom back and be reminded of his mistake every day?
While Reid acknowledged that believing Lewis and Reed could handle the return job was a mistake, it was admitted with a caveat.
"Obviously, we thought we'd get it done with the guys we had there, and it didn't work out this game," Reid said. "Again, I'm not ruling out the guys that are here, either."
That Reid would even suggest Lewis just might need more experience is frightening to any Eagles fan thinking this team might go to the Super Bowl.
Without being definitive, Reid hinted that running back Brian Westbrook is a possibility or that former return man Reno Mahe or someone else might be signed.
I'd say that list of someone else, however, would not include Bloom.
Bringing back Bloom is the one option that would require the Eagles to admit that they botched this entire process from the beginning.
They'd have to acknowledge that they were wrong, and that's not something this organization has ever been that good at - even if it is the most logical thing to do.
1. John Smallwood is a funny name.
2. I think he stole his ideas for that article from this board.
3. John Smallwood is a funny name.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 11, 2007, 05:03:11 PM
blah, blah, blah, I'm a dirty whore.
Everytime I see your avatar, I am more and more convinced that Segrest is with the gays.
Boy they suuuuure need Scott Young and/or Pat McCoy on the roster! No way they can cut either one of those for a guy who knows how to catch a goddamn punt.
And no way those arrogant SOBs bring Bloom back. They'll cram Mushmouth and JR down our throats and hope they do it right so then they can see "we = right; fans = wrong"
QuoteEagles | Team contacts Bloom
Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:09:44 -0700
Reuben Frank, of PhillyBurbs.com, reports the Philadelphia Eagles contacted unrestricted free-agent WR Jeremy Bloom (Eagles) Monday, Sept. 10.
If Reuben Frank says so, it's true. I know from experience.
::)
Dammit. I was just about to post my paranoid conspiracy theory rant against fans who think the FO would rather not admit to being wrong rather than addressing a need that will improve my team.
Craptacular.
QuoteEagles | Team contacts Bloom
Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:09:44 -0700
Reuben Frank, of PhillyBurbs.com, reports the Philadelphia Eagles contacted unrestricted free-agent WR Jeremy Bloom (Eagles) Monday, Sept. 10. Frank says that Bloom has yet to return a pair of cleats and Joe Banner insisted that they be surrendered before formal charges were filed.
Quote from: stalker on September 09, 2007, 04:15:50 PM
If Reno is still here, we win. Face it.
Sometimes you get what you deserve.
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 11, 2007, 06:20:14 PM
QuoteEagles | Team contacts Bloom
Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:09:44 -0700
Reuben Frank, of PhillyBurbs.com, reports the Philadelphia Eagles contacted unrestricted free-agent WR Jeremy Bloom (Eagles) Monday, Sept. 10. Frank says that Bloom has yet to return a pair of cleats and Joe Banner insisted that they be surrendered before formal charges were filed.
lmao