There's a thread to point and laugh the taterskins, one to make fun of Dallas, why the hell not for those big blue vaginas from North Jersey?
Elisha sucks.
Stwayhan is old and past his prime, not to mention wifey took all his money and he has a giant gap between his two front teeth.
Shockey is actually a woman, and a really ugly one at that.
Their coach is a hardass and all their players whine and complain like a bunch of spoiled teenage girls when he makes them show up to meetings and practice.
Their stadium is a shteinhole.
No more Tiki Barber, who was gay.
Brandon Jacobs is fat.
That offensive line is awful.
Umenyiora is an idiot.
The only reason Burress looks good is because JJ leaves 5 foot nothing Sheldon Brown in man coverage against him. Wah.
i'll post the most in this thread, this is my most hated rival...i hate everything and anything New York
Even their high class strip clips and all-world hookers?
yes, where do you think my double case of AIDS came from?
(http://www.philly2hoboken.com/blog/archives/images/wrecked.jpg)
it's hard to hate him, because i love it when he's the starting quarterback for the Giants against the Eagles
Quote from: MDS on May 19, 2007, 10:41:18 PM
There's a thread to point and laugh the taterskins, one to make fun of Dallas, why the hell not for those big blue vaginas from North Jersey?
Elisha sucks.
Stwayhan is old and past his prime, not to mention wifey took all his money and he has a giant gap between his two front teeth.
Shockey is actually a woman, and a really ugly one at that.
Their coach is a hardass and all their players whine and complain like a bunch of spoiled teenage girls when he makes them show up to meetings and practice.
Their stadium is a shteinhole.
No more Tiki Barber, who was gay.
Brandon Jacobs is fat.
That offensive line is awful.
Umenyiora is an idiot.
The only reason Burress looks good is because JJ leaves 5 foot nothing Sheldon Brown in man coverage against him. Wah.
and is gay
I was thinking of starting a thread up like this a few days ago but I couldn't think of a catchy tread title for it. MDS couldn't either, but I guess he wasn't going to let that stop him.
I believe this is solid B work, Sassy. Solid B!
Plaxico Burress is tall!
And black!
literally
I thought it was alien to feel this way, but I pretty much hate the giants more than the cowboys. I thought that was kind of illegal as an eagles fan. Thanks Sun Mo, for putting the hate in my heart in the right place. :yay
Not including the fans and management, and talking just straight teams, I probably hate the Giants more than the Cowboys. Well at least the Cowboys without TO. With TO I hate them more than anyone.
When you factor in annoying fans and Jerry Jones and Snyder, then it raises the hatred for the Cowboys and taterskins significantly.
Better late than never with this thread. Giants suck.
Yeah, no reason for New Jersey to feel left out. farg the Giants too.
this is my most hated rival
1. taterskins
2. chris webber
3. (http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smiles/dcracistemo0mp.gif)
4. gary heidnick
5. giants
6. stewed tomatos
7. cowboys
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 21, 2007, 07:54:53 AM
this is my most hated rival
1. taterskins
2. chris webber
3. (http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smiles/dcracistemo0mp.gif)
4. gary heidnick(Why Gary, he was such a smart crazy man)
5. giants
6. stewed tomatos
7. cowboys
last year i had to go to a jobsite in Jersey City the Monday after the Eagles blew game 2 last year. i had been there the previous thursday talking shtein with some guys, needless to say, i didn't have much to say that Monday and i caught a verbal beating.
I'll probably catch heat for this, but i have the most respect for Giants fans over the other waterheads in the East. Giants fans for the most part have a good understanding of their team and other teams. Cowboys fans are just plain idiots who worship a symbol. Skins fans go without saying, Praise Gibbs. All of the Giants fans i know actually watch other teams play, and for the most part have a realistic view of their team.
Appalling.
im not a sheep
i dont hate teams because "its in our blood" or "every eagle fan has to hate the cowboys"
"as an eagle fan the first words one learns are not mommy and daddy....its dallas sucks"
kill yourself
Appalling.
I hate the Cowboys the most. That pretty much stems from being in grade school in the early 90's and having kids talk trash wearing their Cowboys Starter jackets. Those kids were always the redhaired/freckle faced bitches that i had no problem beating the crap out of. The hatred was lost between them and myself in the Dave Campo years because they had become comical. Getting TO does fire it up though, and the fact that the cockroaches all came out of hiding 3 years ago.
I'll probably catch heat for this, but i have the most respect for Giants fans over the other waterheads in the East. Giants fans for the most part have a good understanding of their team and other teams. Cowboys fans are just plain idiots who worship a symbol. Skins fans go without saying, Praise Gibbs. All of the Giants fans i know actually watch other teams play, and for the most part have a realistic view of their team.
thats cause giant fans arent new york city sickos like jet fans...for the most part they are wine and cheesers from north jersey and connecticut
i hate the mets yankees knicks and rangers far worse than the giants
and ive said this before and ill say it again
imagine ES is not a message board
but an actual metropilitan area
now close your eyes and imagine living in it
cowboys are irrelevant to me...they are in texas for starters where they have weak fan support...and the rest of their fans are bandwagoneers....i know most people despise bandwagon fans but for me they evoke nothing out of me....they dont even register on my radar as to give them any attention or anger would be to validate them as real fans
haha... I live at the tip of that crap IGY, its scary up here. Giants fans are the closest thing to Eagles fans. especially in this division.
Giants fans are the closest thing to Eagles fans. especially in this division
i would agree....but they still arent close to eagle fans and there isnt much competition in the division for that title
jets fans = eagle fans
You sound like a person who is in the middle of a profound homosexual panic, IGY. Stop loathing yourself, lashing out at others, and embrace your inner Cowboys fan and move on.
I certainly won't think any less of you than I already do. I doubt anyone else here will either.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 21, 2007, 08:48:20 AM
i hate the mets yankees knicks and rangers far worse than the giants
i hear that...which is why i don't understand how some people can root for the Eagles, and then the Mets (Feva, Die-Hard). i can't imagine any scenario where i could ever root for a new york team, ever.
i hear that...which is why i don't understand how some people can root for the Eagles, and then the Mets (Feva, Die-Hard). i can't imagine any scenario where i could ever root for a new york team, ever.
amen....its disgusting
romey stop watching citizen kane and honeymooner re runs
mostly stop doing what you think you should do and do what you want to do....youll be much better for it
It's obviously just because Die-Hard and I are lesser fans than you guys. ;)
A. Don't forget... I'm a native New Yorker. If you want to get technical... it's actually the Eagles who I "shouldn't" be rooting for. However, I fell stronger about the Eagles than the Mets, Knicks and anyone else combined so farg that.
B. I don't root for cities really. I root for teams. Although I've already admitted and admit again that I take pleasure in seeing the Mavericks go down because of the city they play in. Just the same... I can't hate the Phils or the Sixers because of where they are.
i dont think anyone would question yours or dh fandom...at least i wouldnt...but i still think its disgusting that an eagle fan roots for a new york team
i certainly don't question your guys' fandom, and i can't even hate on you for liking new york teams, it's just something that i will never understand.
and what i don't understand, i kill, sorry
Sun did you read IGY's post, or are you two getting married
IGY has a special place in his heart reserved for Dallas.
Feva and Die-Hard want to make sweet, sweet love to the city of New York.
At least no one's "kind of cool" with the skins.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on May 21, 2007, 09:31:17 AM
Sun did you read IGY's post, or are you two getting married
i was piggy-backing off of his post
naked
i fully admit i "liked" the dallas teams circa 93-95
jimmy johnson was the man
how can you dislike emmitt or aikman
and irvin was a shtein talking king
Quote from: SunMo on May 21, 2007, 09:36:57 AM
i was piggy-backing off of his post
naked
Well, to be fair, the 1/2 inch thick coating of Axe spray you have on is sort of like clothes.
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 21, 2007, 09:35:03 AM
At least no one's "kind of cool" with the skins.
i'll admit, before i started posting here, they were #3 on the rival list.
but i have since been exposed to ES and an actual Skins home game, so they obviously are #2 now
They can't be #1 because of how laughable they've been on the field. Actually, the teams are a completely different story than the fans.
Hate Ratings - FANS:
1. skins
They're frighteningly stupid. They worship the weegros of the DTC. They're just awful.
2. cowboys
Too many of them. Most of them still think the quarterback is Troy Aikman. The ones that actually follow the team are usually even worse.
3. giants
They're the most like Eagles fans IMO. Most of the Giants fans I know (and I know plenty) understand the game of football and are as critical of their team as anyone.
Hate Ratings - TEAMS
1. cowboys
Any team in the division with TO has to rate highly here. Also, they are probably the best competition for the Eagles right now, and all the Tony Romo shtein is nauseating also.
2. (tie) giants/skins
The skins players are laughable for the most part, but combined with the severe mental retardation of Clinton Portis and the thuggery of Sean Taylor, they have a nice cross-section of guys to hate.
The giants have the pampered under-criticized QB, a receiver that hates his coach and never practices but still burns our corners, a TE that's a complete clown and wildly overrated, and a homosexual gap-toothed aging DE that got a gift-wrapped NFL record. Hate.
So, I hate the giants fans' ess than the other two. But I hate all the players a lot. LOT. HATE.
we'll let you slide of you root for the mets, who happen to be a division rival of the sils....but root for the yankees & you're not a REAL eagles fan!!1!!
farging idiots.
i almost exclusively rate only on fans...the teams and players are different every year...when dallas or the giants suck they are almost invisible
but the taterskins can be 2-14 and they still cause much rage in me due to the fans....obviously tho a lot of it has to do where i rest my head
we'll let you slide of you root for the mets, who happen to be a division rival of the sils....but root for the yankees & you're not a REAL eagles fan!
well they really like the mets and eagles....where as youre a bandwagon yankee whore...and as far as im concerned an eagle one too
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 21, 2007, 09:59:07 AM
well they really like the mets and eagles....where as youre a bandwagon yankee whore...and as far as im concerned an eagle one too
your opinion means LOTS, cowboys lover!
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 21, 2007, 09:39:05 AM
i fully admit i "liked" the dallas teams circa 93-95
jimmy johnson was the man
how can you dislike emmitt or aikman
and irvin was a shtein talking king
I've said it before and I'll say it again... you're a farging joke as a fan. No matter how many "butta joints you cop," :-D you'll always be an appalling disgrace as an Eagles fan for liking anything remotely connected with the Cowboys.
As far as me watching the Honeymooners or appreciating Citizen Kane as a movie, I'll take it as a compliment that a patently ignorant fargtard such as yourself criticizes me over them. In short, you don't read, you act like someone you're not, and you love the Cowboys, but
I'm the one who should kill myself?
Sure thing, dude. I'll get right on it.
The only other team i remotely liked growing up was the 49er's. It wasnt because of superbowl wins, i like Montana, especially when he broke his back and came back from that. You can like the players but i never/EVER would could like the cowboys. I openly hoped for an air tragedy with the entire Dallas team, and Ownership ever time i thought about at Star.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 21, 2007, 11:21:48 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again... you're a farging joke as a fan. No matter how many "butta joints you cop," :-D you'll always be an appalling disgrace as an Eagles fan for liking anything remotely connected with the Cowboys.
As far as me watching the Honeymooners or appreciating Citizen Kane as a movie, I'll take it as a compliment that a patently ignorant fargtard such as yourself criticizes me over them. In short, you don't read, you act like someone you're not, and you love the Cowboys, but I'm the one who should kill myself?
Sure thing, dude. I'll get right on it.
(http://www.225.ca/ivan/nov03/crybaby.jpg)
LOL at the Cowboys lover posting a photo of a baby crying. What's next - a photochopped shot from ebaumsworld?
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 21, 2007, 09:35:03 AM
IGY has a special place in his heart reserved for Dallas.
QuoteBarksdale won't please any fans by letting them know he grew up rooting for the Cowboys...
The plot thins.
eagles rule rest of the nfc east drools!
My problem with Cowtard fans is that I've never actually met a Dallas fan from Dallas. They're all usually week minded band wagoners who can claim that their team won some championships. Must. Punch. Face...
I think I'll always hate Dallas fans most... for one, like FF said... they're too many of them. They're farging everywhere. Even in a place like Atlanta... this place is crawling with them... and every last one of them spit out "Super Bowls" within the 1st 15 seconds of talking to them, even though they probably couldn't so much as point to Dallas if you gave them a farging map. It's impossible to even try to engage in any kind of football discussion because once they feel the least bit threatened... "How many Super Bowls you got??"
They all think they're some kind of fan royalty and love to harp on that "America's Team" bullshtein. Don't bring up the fact that the moniker is self-proclamied because what happens? That's right... "How many Super Bowls you got??"
Honestly... after last year's game at the Linc... a Cowboy fan I work with actually came up to me talking shtein! Yapping about Super Bowls... Lito was practically still dancing in the end zone and he was asking me about Super Bowls! I went on YouTube and played Lito's INT return as loud as the speakers would go. He left... but left, you guessed it... talking about Super Bowls.
It's as if a SB victory gives their team a lifelong pass to be zesty. That type of ignorance makes me want to dismember someone.
Yikes. What the hell is this. I blame igy.
One more thing I hate almost as bad as Cowboy fans, Giants fans, etc....are stupid ass Eagles fans. I think I'd rather hang out with a rival's fan and have a beer with him over a fairweather fan of the Eagles. I actually wouldn't mind having them try to pet IGY's polar bear.
*No new fans were the only positive from the Eagles not winning the superbowl.
^^^^^
real talk
thats why dallas fans dont bother me...cause they are all fairweather and that actually makes me happy...you cant take them seriously thus nothing they say would ever come close to getting a rise out of me
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 21, 2007, 09:00:46 AMjets fans = eagle fans
this helps to explain why I like the Jets in the AFC
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on May 21, 2007, 11:55:02 AM
The only other team i remotely liked growing up was the 49er's. It wasnt because of superbowl wins, i like Montana, especially when he broke his back and came back from that. You can like the players but i never/EVER would could like the cowboys. I openly hoped for an air tragedy with the entire Dallas team, and Ownership ever time i thought about at Star.
The only time I ever had a #2 team was when Reggie went to the Packers. I was a huge Reggie fan and he was my favorite Eagle ever and I was so pissed when he left. I wanted so badly for Reggie to win that Superbowl.
Bunch of crying women.
Quote from: Diomedes on May 21, 2007, 07:37:04 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 21, 2007, 09:00:46 AMjets fans = eagle fans
this helps to explain why I like the Jets in the AFC
The only 2 teams in the AFC I really dislike is Oakland and Baltimore. Other than that, I'm pretty neutral on most of them perhaps with the exception of San Diego. I'm far from a Chargers fan but it's really hard to not like that team right now. They're just fun to watch....especially LT and Shawn Merriman (when he's not juicing). And I loved watching Phillip Rivers outshine Sheli this year too.
QuoteMay 20, 2007 -- IT'S hard out there for a professional athlete who gets no attention from the usually man-hungry ladies at Clifton, N.J., nightspot The Bliss Club. Sources say New York Giants wide receiver Plaxico Burress insulted female patrons there and "left the club without paying his $2,000 tab."
It seemed that Burress was upset Wednesday night because "no women were paying any attention to him."
Spies at Bliss told Page Six Burress came in at around 11 p.m., but stayed only about 90 minutes. While he lounged at the VIP table overlooking the dance floor, Burress and his crew "kept the cocktail waitress running back and forth," ordering "several rounds of Dom Perignon and Grey Goose."
The worst offense? "He didn't even tip his cocktail waitress," said a source, who noted that Burress and his crew "were obviously on the prowl." At one point, said the witness, Plaxico "got up from his VIP table and approached a group of girls at the bar."
That's when he propositioned a female patron out of the blue. "She just yelled back, 'You've got the wrong girl,' " relates our witness. Burress was spotted storming out minutes later "without returning to his table or paying his tab."
The NFLer, recently praised in the press for attending voluntary workouts during the Giants' off-season, was also snubbing male fans at the club. Spies said he refused to sign the jersey of one who raced home to retrieve it when he learned Burress was there, hoping to get an autograph.
One club regular told us the place is often visited by major sports stars, including Yankees Robinson Cano and Melky Cabrera and Burress' fellow Giant star Brandon Jacobs. "I have never seen a professional athlete behave this way," said the source.
The Bliss Club's bottle-service host, Joe Martino, confirmed the $2,000 bill was not paid by Burress or anyone in his group."
Via a rep for the Giants, Burress confirmed he was at the club, but denied walking out on his tab or propositioning anyone.
QuoteIt seemed that Burress was upset Wednesday night because "no women were paying any attention to him."
Well... what the farg do you expect when you look like a ladybug?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF6FlcQEKKc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF6FlcQEKKc)
I was looking for the clip of Burress spiking the ball after a catch when he was a Stiller and found that clip.
My favorite Burress story (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/steelers/2004-05-13-burress_x.htm)
Paying respect to her by sitting around and drinking 40's while smoking weed and playing video games. Word.
Quote from: EagleFeva on May 23, 2007, 04:28:00 AM
QuoteIt seemed that Burress was upset Wednesday night because "no women were paying any attention to him."
Well... what the farg do you expect when you look like a ladybug?
(http://209.85.62.23/71/116/emo/ermm.gif)
I'd just like to say that I am highly offended at the title of this thread.
Tell your team to stop sucking then.
They do suck don't they? Why the hell the Mara and Tish kept Coughlin is beyond me. The Giants seems to implode at the end of the season, and it seems to me that coaching is a big part of it. When you have guys on offense who are proven pro-bowlers like Tiki and Shockey who, imo, were not getting the ball half as much as they should have, something is wrong with the playbook.
I would have fired Coughlin in a heartbeat, and begged Tiki for one more year. shtein, Parcells was gonna' be available, could have brought him back. Wouldn't have been any worse off.
oh my (http://www.nj.com/columns/times/eckel/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1180843713110440.xml&coll=5)
QuoteGIANTS -- Despite winning just two of their final six games, the Giants, at 8-8, were a playoff team last year.
That's not going to happen again this year. The team made some minor moves to fix its many problems, but those Band-Aids are not going to stop all the internal bleeding.
It starts with lame duck head coach Tom Coughlin, who figures to be in his final season.
Tiki Barber, the heart of the offense, is gone and Reuben Droughns is hardly a suitable replacement. It also doesn't help that wide receiver Plaxico Burress and tight end Jeremy Shockey show up to camps if and when they feel like it.
Defensively, the team's back seven remains a problem, and other than first-round pick Aaron Ross, the team did little to make it better.
While next year could be a bad one, there is hope for the Giants. Their best offseason move was the hiring of personnel man Marc Ross, who will be GM Jerry Reese's top assistant. Ross knows talent as well as anyone in the league, so in time the team will be back.
Losing Tiki singlehandedly makes the Giants a non-factor. Their offense was the only thing that had the potential to keep them competitive. Their defense blows, their coaching doesn't fit the talent on the team and now their offense will be even more inconsistent. I love it.
At least their coaches talk to each other, so they've got that going for them.
Quote from: rjs246 on June 03, 2007, 12:20:41 PM
Losing Tiki singlehandedly makes the Giants a non-factor. Their offense was the only thing that had the potential to keep them competitive. Their defense blows, their coaching doesn't fit the talent on the team and now their offense will be even more inconsistent. I love it.
I love this post. It makes me all sorts of happy.
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hahahahaha
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
That is hilarious!
Posted it in the offseason thread, too...but Jim Finn is out for the year with a shoulder injury.
I like Finn. Football player.
I liked Finn, too. Perhaps my favorite Mr. Irrelevant of all time ;. Giants are running out of FB options, unless you count Droughns.... they really have a chance to be craptastic this year.
Finn's wife ain't too shabby:
(http://www.torontal.com/dmodel/Rosa%20Blasi.jpg)
Google Rosa Blasi if you'd like to see more
Safe to say I feel less badly for Finn now.
Dood probably blew out his shoulder rubbing one out to that pic.
She's really nice, too.
Gonna be weird not seeing Finn at camp this year. At least now we know the full extent of why they were looking around for a FB and not just f'ing him over.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 14, 2007, 01:36:38 PM
Dood probably blew out his shoulder rubbing one out to that pic.
I know I just did....... :yay
QuoteMichael Strahan isn't only holding out; he's threatening to never show up again.The Pro Bowl defensive end did not show up in Albany for the 1 p.m. conditioning drills that all players were required to participate in. And later this afternoon, Strahan plans on speaking to coach Tom Coughlin about the possibility of his retiring before his 15th NFL season begins, according to someone who speaks with Giants management on a regular basis. The person, who requested anonymity because Strahan has not yet spoken to Coughlin, said the 35-year-old future Hall of Famer is currently on his way to the area on a flight from the West Coast.
:=) is flying in from San Fran (http://www.msprotege.com/vbb222/images/smilies/superjohn.gif)
http://bp3.blogger.com/_1OMiSrEJXnY/Rqo3xWBedDI/AAAAAAAADK0/76ayz8Ijpmo/s1600-h/shockey.jpg (http://bp3.blogger.com/_1OMiSrEJXnY/Rqo3xWBedDI/AAAAAAAADK0/76ayz8Ijpmo/s1600-h/shockey.jpg)
the one on the left looks like a toothless Tranny
Is that Tara Reid on the right?
In all her tittie-scarred glory.
QuoteESPN.com: NFL Training Camp 2007
Wednesday, August 1, 2007
New York media serves as battleground for Strahan-Giants feud
ESPN.com news services
ALBANY, N.Y. -- The Michael Strahan saga continued to play out in the New York newspapers on Wednesday, with Strahan's camp firing the latest salvos.
A day after Giants coach Tom Coughlin and general manager Jerry Reese confirmed they had talked with Strahan on Monday, and Reese said he told Strahan that the Giants are moving forward as if he is not coming, Strahan's confidants spoke out.
"How could he not feel betrayed?" the New York Daily News quoted a "source who spoke with Strahan" on Tuesday. "After spending 14 years, after being a loyal and dedicated player to an organization, and now that he is considering retirement, the most difficult decision in his career, instead of giving him space to make this decision, people are talking about fines and replacements?
"I am really sad that this situation is being portrayed the way it is. This is not about money."
Strahan hasn't reported to camp. Wednesday marks the sixth day of his holdout. Strahan has a contract which would pay him $4 million this season. The Giants are reportedly continuing to fine Strahan $14,288 for each day of camp that he misses.
The Giants want Strahan to make a decision about his future sooner rather than later.
On Tuesday, a senior Giants official told ESPN's Sal Paolantonio that the team believes Strahan is bluffing about retirement. The official said the team doesn't want "Tiki, the Sequel" -- non-stop, season-long speculation that Strahan is retiring. Last year, the Tiki Barber situation destroyed the team, the official said.
Barber retired at the end of last season and is now an NFL analyst for NBC.
One possible replacement for Strahan, should he not report, is former Tampa Bay defensive end Simeon Rice, who was released by the Buccaneers for failing a physical.
Tuesday, the St. Petersberg Times quoted Rice as saying he'd passed a series of exams administered by Dr. James Andrews, a widely respected orthopedist.
"It was all 100 percent," Rice told the Times. "Dr. Andrews said, 'What kind of physical did you take down there?' I told him they just checked for my mobility in the shoulder and said I failed. He said, 'They didn't even test you for any kind of structure in the shoulder?'"
The Daily News, which described Rice as Strahan's "arch-enemy," said Rice will meet with Giants team officials Tuesday. One source reportedly told the paper the Giants are considering offering him a contract if they are confident he is healthy.
Strahan is the NFL's active sacks leader with 132½.
http://bp1.blogger.com/_1OMiSrEJXnY/RrNxvmBedtI/AAAAAAAADQE/tVRsM7gKpe0/s1600-h/tikibarber.jpg
every time this thread gets bumped i get a tingle in my football pants thinking someone has posted news that Strahan has been cut/retired/diagnosed with HIV/
something fun.
so far, i've got nothing but a serious case of blue balls
Can you believe this attention whoring gap-toothed fairy?
Jesus...
QuoteGiants: Strahan relases statement
9:41 PM EDT, August 5, 2007
To the New York Giants' Fans:
As many of you know, I am contemplating one of the biggest decisions of my football career, whether I should retire or continue playing. Like all athletes, I knew this day would come when I would have to stand before that proverbial fork in the road. But I must admit that it's not until you're actually staring at the two diverging paths do you really grasp how impactful and painful this decision can be. I was hoping to make this personal decision quietly and without much hoopla, but given the recent torrent of erroneous media reports and totally inaccurate assumptions, I feel that I have to come forward and publicly set the record straight with those for whom I have toiled the last fourteen years--you fans.
This off season has been one of the best in my professional career. I have worked extremely hard to make sure that I'm in shape and ready to tackle the rigors of another physical season. I am proud to say that at my body feels years younger and ready to compete at the highest level. I love training and preparation, and this off season has made it clear to me that this is one aspect of the game that I will miss tremendously when I decide to one day unstrap the helmet for the last time. I went into this off season with every intention of entering a 15th season with the Giants, the only team I've ever played for during my career. But I am human, and despite the images of me grimacing and tackling opposing quarterbacks and running backs, I have to face my mortality like anyone else. When an athlete like myself who does what I do for a living starts having doubts, then it's time to take a step back and seriously consider my future. Anyone who plays in the NFL with doubts or second guessing is not only putting themselves at risk, but their teammates also. I will never do that.
What 's been most disappointing has been all of this nonsense that I'm holding out for more money. The truth is that football has been very good to me and I have been fortunate enough to be surrounded by advisors who have ensured that my family and I will live comfortably for the rest of my life.You deserve to know what's really going on. My agent met with the Giants earlier in the year and discussed many things including my contract.Money is not the reason that I have not reported to training camp and it will not be a factor for my return. This has already been communicated to the Giants and while the reports may indicate a"hard line" taken by the team regarding money , it is not necessary, as this issue had been decided well before July
Despite what some might believe there are those of us who make decisions that have nothing to do with money. Many athletes ask themselves daily if they are emotionally and psychologically at the level where they can compete at the highest level for twenty-four weeks. For them also it isn't about the money, rather a serious athlete asking serious questions about his future. All that I ask, after fourteen seasons,is that you afford me the patience so that I might arrive at my decision on my own terms.
As GM Jerry Reese has said, the Giants are not going to hold a spot for me. I completely understand his stance as football is a business and he must do what is in the best interest of the team. I know that I am only one player. I want to express my thanks to the owners and coaches for their extremely kind words about my career as a Giant to date. I have been proud to wear the Giant uniform thoughout my professional career.You have my word that I will try to make the correct decision as quickly as possible. If I decide to play, I hope that you will continue to cheer me on like you have for all of these years. If I decide to hang up the cleats, then I will bid you all a tremendous thank you for the privilege to play a game that has blessed me in so many ways and created memories I will cherish for the rest of my life. I humbly thank you for your understanding and being the best fans in the world.
Michael Strahan
#92
Hilarious.
imo, all this can be summed up in one sentance. Does he want to come back and play for a lame duck Coughlin, or not?
shouldn't he have been thinking about this the minute Akers' kick went through the uprights in the playoff game? not right before training camp.
Quote from: SunMo on August 06, 2007, 09:04:49 AM
shouldn't he have been thinking about this the minute Akers' kick went through the uprights in the playoff game? not right before training camp.
I thought that too, maybe he was waiting to see what moves were made in the offseason. He knows like Tiki knew the Giants are going to suck ass this year. A guy at his age has one concern which is getting a ring.
I'm betting Strahan is demanding Eli not get to wear a red jersey in training camp.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 06, 2007, 10:07:17 AM
A guy at his age has one concern which is getting a ring.
He's probably out of luck considering New York isn't going to pass a gay marriage amendment any time soon.
farg you romey, you got me, ha
so the patriots will get him too. great.
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c295/skinneduntilred/EliHawking.jpg)
Yeah, but Hawking is smart...
Giants dropping like flies in this game. Its fun.
I'm not watching. Who hurt?
QuoteFour Giants have suffered injuries in tonight's preseason game against the Baltimore Ravens.
Safety Will Demps, who started every game last season and was challenging for a starting job this year, dislocated his elbow. Demps came up to hit running back Musa Smith, who caught a pass from Kyle Boller. Demps hit Smith, then fell to the ground and grabbed his elbow. After being examined by team trainers, Demps walked about 25 yards before he was drive off the field in a motorized cart.
On the same second-quarter play, cornerback Sam Madison pulled his hamstring, the same injury that forced him to miss four games last season.
Earlier in the quarter, wide receiver Michael Jennings ruptured his Achilles tendon after catching an 11-yard pass from Eli Manning. Jennings was not hit; he simply caught the ball and went to the ground.
Two plays after Jennings' catch, Manning threw a 10-yard touchdown pass to Steve Smith, the Giants' second-round draft choice. But a few minutes later, Smith also left the game for good after suffering a concussion.
The Giants lead the Ravens, 7-3, late in the second quarter. Log on to Giants.com after the game for complete coverage.
Jennings gone for the season.
PFT has this to say about the game and it's injuries:
QuoteGIANTS DROPPING LIKE, WELL, GIANTS IN BALTIMORE
Somebody must have taken an axe to the beanstalk, because Giants are falling left and right on Sunday night.
The most serious of the bunch is receiver Michael Jennings, who ruptured an Achilles' tendon while making a reception in the first quarter.
Also, safety Will Demps dislocated an elbow, and cornerback Sam Madison pulled a hamstring. Receiver Steve Smith has a concussion.
And whenever Giants players get hurt we recall the words of coach Tom Coughlin, who suggested when hired that players could somehow will themselves to stay healthy.
The Ravens haven't avoided the injury bug. Cornerback Samari Rolle and receiver Derrick Mason each has sustained ankle injuries.
It's been a bad two weeks at M&T
No shtein...twice I was caught off-guard by the traffic. Stupid baltimorons.
Someone who maybe has more reason than anyone else to support Michael Vick... has found himself another team.
QuoteOn a related note, the Star-Ledger of Newark, N.J., is reporting today that former Eagles returner and safety J.R. Reed has signed with the New York Giants.
Manning's response to Tiki bashing him on Sunday Night:link (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/20...i.html#comments)
QuoteEli Manning may not have the fire in his eyes that Tiki Barber wants to see in the huddle, but he sure had it yesterday when talking about Tiki Barber.
Asked for his reaction to Barber's comments on the Sunday Night Football halftime show, Manning shot back, and shot back hard. Here is Eli Manning, fired up and unplugged:
"I guess I'm just happy for Tiki that he's making a smooth transition into the TV world," Manning said. "You know, I'll be interested to see if he has anything to say (about a team) besides the Giants, and what his comments will be on that.
"It's just one of those deals. I'm not going to lose any sleep about what Tiki has to say. I guess I could have questioned his leadership skills last year with calling out the coach and having articles about him retiring in the middle of the season, and (how) he's lost the heart (to play). As a quarterback you're reading that your running back has lost the heart to play the game and it's about the 10th week. I can see that a little bit at times. But I'm not going to get concerned. I'm going to go out there and play ball."
Told that he sounded a little angry or frustrated, Manning said, "It's just one of those deals. The guy goes to the media and he's got to say stuff. He's been put in a situation where he's got to talk. That's just the way it is. That's the world we live in and you've got to deal with it."
Asked later if it felt good to unload on Tiki, Manning didn't back down. "I don't like to show up anybody," Manning said. "That's just the way I am. That's just the way I'll always be, probably."
All i heard was "WAHHH WAHHH WAHHH, I'm a bitch".
Same thing we've heard from him since the draft.
Actually... it sounded to me like he just could be on his way to growing a pair.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 19, 2007, 10:28:25 PM
No shtein...twice I was caught off-guard by the traffic. Stupid baltimorons.
You should make a trip over my way to the Shore. You could be my guest. I'd even wear shoes.
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 21, 2007, 03:05:31 PM
Actually... it sounded to me like he just could be on his way to growing a pair.
If he made those comments while Tiki was on the team I'd agree. Doesn't take balls to respond to him now.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 21, 2007, 03:56:10 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 21, 2007, 03:05:31 PM
Actually... it sounded to me like he just could be on his way to growing a pair.
If he made those comments while Tiki was on the team I'd agree. Doesn't take balls to respond to him now.
This. He is, and always will be, a Grade A Hoyda.
not everyone can be as gully as donovan
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 21, 2007, 04:05:22 PM
not everyone can be as gully as donovan
You should be banned for ever comparing McNabb to Manning. McNabb has more balls in his little finger than Manning will ever have.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 21, 2007, 04:06:40 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 21, 2007, 04:05:22 PM
not everyone can be as gully as donovan
McNabb has more balls in his little finger than Manning will ever have.
Right.
Yes, while Manning was crying draft day because he didn't like the team that drafted him, McNabb was busy throwing 4 TDs on a broken leg.
they are both bitches in their own special ways
the difference is that mcnabb is a way better player
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 21, 2007, 04:22:07 PM
they are both bitches in their own special ways
the difference is that mcnabb is a way better player
Agreed. But on the field, McNabb is far from a bitch.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 21, 2007, 04:09:33 PM
Yes, while Manning was crying draft day because he didn't like the team that drafted him, McNabb was busy throwing 4 TDs on a broken leg.
Not to mention that when booed after being drafted, McNabb didn't have Daddy all over the media crying and saying he wouldn't play for the team that drafted him.
Whaaaaa!! I don't
wanna play for the Chargers!! WHAAAAAAAAAA! DADDIEEEEEE. Hellllllllllp me pleeeeeaase!!
McNabb sucked it up and went out to become a pro-bowler. The Chargers, on the other hand, owe a lot to the Mannings. They don't have to have that cry baby bitch Eli handing off to LT. Who looks like the farging idiots now? Eli plays for a organization in disarray, and the Chargers are primed to make another run at the Superbowl.
HA!
Those quotes from Eli Manning are being considered tough talk? Gimme a break.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 21, 2007, 07:13:12 PM
Those quotes from Eli Manning are being considered tough talk? Gimme a break.
:-D
apparently tiki went on his sirius radio show with his brother and made fun of eli the whole time calling him names and such.
lol i dont care for either but tiki is really showing his true colors.
found it from the following:
from AOLSportsblog:
Did anyone actually think that the Eli Manning/Tiki Barber feud would end after only a few short days? Did anyone actually think that Barber would allow Manning to have the last word?
If you thought either of those things, you'd be wrong -- and you'd be foolish.
Barber made it a point to address Manning's comments tonight on Siruis Radio's "Barber Shop." He also recruited some help in attempt to further damage Eli's reputation. Twin brother Ronde Barber accompanied Tiki on the set and joyously joined in on a pathetically immature mocking of the New York Giants quarterback.
It was a constant barrage for almost two hours with Ronde making comments about Eli's "testes finally dropping" and Tiki adding that "Kerry Collins was a true leader," claiming the Giants "shouldn't have let him go." They also added that Eli's return-fire was "laughable" and that Tiki is part of the media now and it's his job to be controversial.
Now that the real Tiki has shown himself, a few things have become blatantly obvious. Unlike Lawrence Taylor, Phil Simms and Harry Carson who are ex-Giants, Tiki is just an ex-football player. It's clear that he could care less about the organization and only about himself. Additionally, he also proved exactly what's wrong with the media when he stated that it's his job to be controversial.
Oddly enough, he fails to realize that his job also involves quality analysis. He's not going to be taken seriously if he continues to make bogus comments like suggesting Kerry Collins was a "true leader." In all fairness to Collins, he was an alcoholic who stumbled his way through an NFL career and got lucky one year with the Giants when the offensive line jelled together for a single fluke season and the defense over-performed. His true leadership skills were exposed in that horrid Super Bowl loss to Baltimore -- a game in which Tiki Barber was rendered irrelevant.
And amongst all the foolish things that spewed from Tiki's mouth, he claimed that he would have been a surefire Hall of Famer had his heart remained in it. Ironic, because he seemed to "lose his heart" when Tom Coughlin came to town, which was actually the moment he became a legitimate running back and stood an actual chance of being considered for football's greatest honor.
Is it his job to be an icehole also? If so, he's doing a fine job of it.
There has been a rash of former players who stink it up so bad in the booth that I gotta believe the broadcasting people with the money are going to think twice about throwing them in the booth.
You want to believe that.
i hear you Dio, i really have no idea how Emmitt is still working at Espn, the guy has no concept of the english language.
Tiki always seemed like a pretty classy guy... wasn't he working for the Today show???
I'm pretty sure childish rants like these will lead to him losing any national gigs like the Today Show.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 22, 2007, 07:52:20 AM
You want to believe that.
Well yeah, I do want to believe it. I'm a sucker.
The occasional player does well..Aikman and Jaws are good examples. But basically, former players suck. And they take jobs from lifer broadcasters who toil away in small markets. Guys who know how to read a promter while being screamed at by a producer through the earhole while watching a game while responding to the dude next to them.
Those are the mutherfargers I want in the booth.
former player announcers are no different than not former player announcers...some are good some are bad...wheels is the worst ive ever heard and he might have played wiffle ball once
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 22, 2007, 07:41:26 PM
former player announcers are no different than not former player announcers...some are good some are bad...
If you want to talk like a guidance counselor, sure. If you want to talk like a man, WRONG. pros are better than amateurs. Professional broadcasters are better at their job than amateurs. Just like any other job.
lol @ professional broadcasters
anyway when it comes to play by play you may be right...but when it comes to analysis players are usually better
but i know you love to ride the all players are illiterate gorillas train so carry on
just the black ones homey, just the black ones
Tiki Barber is a very articulate person, well spoken and all that, but he still is acting like a 5 yr. old with all this crap between him and the other spoiled brat, Eli. I used to think he was different from the likes of Phil Simms and LT, but when he says that friggen' Kerry Collins was a true leader, well, he might as well go on the Howard Stern show next.
as much as it feels unnatural to say this but i agree with Eli here.
tiki is a moron and especially if he thinks his "job" is to make controversial comments.
Eli has zero leadership presence in the locker room... this was his way of trying to prove that he can be a leader, by bashing old comments from a player who's not even on the team anymore. It was an embarrassing and unconvincing performance to say the least.
Tiki wins automatically because he was an elite player at his position and left on top. Eli was drafted 1st overall but whined about which team drafted him, and he's averagish at best as a QB to boot.
Link (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7145284)
Adam Schein tells it like it is (and he's a Giants fan). Best show on Sirius:
QuoteIf you read the New York newspapers today, you would believe that Eli Manning firing back at former teammate-turned-sportscaster Tiki Barber is the quarterback's coming-out party as a leader.
If you talk to Giants fans, like I did on my radio show yesterday, you would believe that Manning not only has found his pulse, but that this could be a turning point for him on the field.
Excuse me for a minute while I interrupt this Eli Manning love fest.
I can't believe how this has been spun.
I had some serious problems with Manning's commentary against Barber yesterday in Albany, N.Y — on a lot of levels.
I watched Sunday Night Football live this week. I heard Barber and Cris Collinsworth and Bob Costas talk about Manning at the half. I heard the two analysts say that Manning isn't an upper-echelon quarterback and the Giants couldn't trade him for most starting quarterbacks in the NFL straight-up, including the two quarterbacks drafted the same year, Philip Rivers and Ben Roethlisberger. I heard Tiki talk about Manning's awkward speeches and question his leadership. I heard it all.
Raise your hand if you disagreed with it.
This was far from breaking news.
I have to tell you, this was fine television. It wasn't anything more. It wasn't anything less. It wasn't going to win anyone an Emmy. This wasn't "hot stuff." Tiki and company were not reinventing the wheel here. This has been said or written by at least 1,000 people with microphones and notepads. Giants tackle Kareem McKenzie has talked about Manning from a leadership perspective before on the record. Barber's commentary was far from over the top.
While New Yorkers are celebrating Manning's coming-out party, what happened to the 2007 mantra of just playing football and eliminating distractions?
Would Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Donovan McNabb, Carson Palmer or Marc Bulger respond in such a way? Here's what they would've said, "Tiki is entitled to his opinion. We are here to play football. That's all I have to say about that."
So in a season where Tom Coughlin wanted the Giants to stop talking, all of a sudden everyone is praising Manning for his Jim Rome-esque monologue?
And in New York, this topic isn't dying anytime soon. So once again, the conversation strays from football.
Here is the Manning quote I had the biggest problem with: "I guess I could have questioned his leadership skills last year calling out the coach and having articles about him retiring in the middle of the season, saying he's lost the heart. As a quarterback, you're reading your running back's lost a little, the heart, him playing the game, and it's about the 10th week. I can see that a little bit at times."
Where do I begin?
Let's jog the mental rolodex for a second here. When were the two significant times Barber talked about the Giants coaching staff? They were after the pathetic performance against John Fox and the Panthers in the opening round of the playoffs two seasons ago. And it was after Manning's gruesome performance against the Jaguars on national television last year, when the quarterback did his best Dave Brown impersonation.
The headlines in New York quickly shifted from "Manning's a Bust" and "Eli Stinks" to "Shut up Tiki!"
Maybe, just maybe, Barber knew exactly what he was doing, shifting the blame away from his young quarterback.
And let's remember that Barber didn't announce his retirement last year. John Branch from The New York Times was shadowing the Barber brothers on a book tour and unearthed that nugget by listening to conversation.
For the record, the Steelers were so distracted by the Jerome Bettis retirement talk in 2005 they won the Super Bowl.
And let's not talk about heart. That is what drove me batty during my radio show yesterday. I would be pressed to question a running back's heart when he shredded the taterskins for over 200 yards in Week 17 to solely carry the Giants to the playoffs. When Tiki made the heart comment last year it was in reference to the grind as an NFL player post-2006. Barber not only dominated Washington, but he was the reason why the Giants beat the Panthers down the stretch and nearly upset the Eagles in the playoffs.
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This will make for good copy and conversation for a few weeks. But all that matters is if this "leadership transformation" that I am not buying into suddenly helps Manning perform against the Cowboys in Week 1.
Tiki Barber no longer wears the Giants uniform. He is now part of the media. The Giants players and fans have to get used to it.
I can't wait until he actually says something juicy
Wow, that was suprisingly insightful.
Here's my insight: Giants last pace in the division this year.
Strahan will be back with the team monday. Slimey move threatening retirement to get out of training camp.
It wasn't to get out of TC. There's some stuff going on.
As for Schein's comments, in that posted commentary, and just in general on Sirius... Amen, brother.
Quote from: BlueHeart on September 02, 2007, 01:22:30 AM
It wasn't to get out of TC. There's some stuff going on.
Like?
Like he's gay as Seigfried and his boyfriend just told him he's got AIDS.
He finally decided to get braces and couldn't take that 6 inch clamp off his front teeth until training camp was over.
WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! :'(
QuoteNFL | Barber says he'd still be playing if not for Coughlin
From Inquirer Wire Services
Tiki Barber says he retired because New York Giants coach Tom Coughlin robbed him of his love of the game.
In excerpts from his book, Tiki: My Life in the Game and Beyond, obtained by the New York Daily News, the former Giants running back writes that he might still be playing if Coughlin was not still coaching the Giants. The book goes on sale Sept. 18.
"If Tom Coughlin had not remained as head coach of the Giants, I might still be in a Giants uniform," the excerpt in the Daily News said.
Coughlin "robbed me of what had been one of the most important things I had in my life, which was the joy I felt playing football," Barber wrote. "I had lost that. He had taken it away."
Barber credits Coughlin with solving his chronic fumbling problems. Under Coughlin, Barber ranked among the NFL's top five rushers. Beginning in 2004, Barber rushed for 1,518, 1,860 and 1,662 yards.
Barber also claims in the book that he was shorted about $10 million in his career by the Giants, who underpaid him compared with other top running backs.
Kill yourself.
shtein, no one wants to play for Coughlin. This isn't news.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 05, 2007, 06:30:54 AM
WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! :'(
QuoteNFL | Barber says he'd still be playing if not for Coughlin
From Inquirer Wire Services
Tiki Barber says he retired because New York Giants coach Tom Coughlin robbed him of his love of the game.
In excerpts from his book, Tiki: My Life in the Game and Beyond, obtained by the New York Daily News, the former Giants running back writes that he might still be playing if Coughlin was not still coaching the Giants. The book goes on sale Sept. 18.
"If Tom Coughlin had not remained as head coach of the Giants, I might still be in a Giants uniform," the excerpt in the Daily News said.
Coughlin "robbed me of what had been one of the most important things I had in my life, which was the joy I felt playing football," Barber wrote. "I had lost that. He had taken it away."
Barber credits Coughlin with solving his chronic fumbling problems. Under Coughlin, Barber ranked among the NFL's top five rushers. Beginning in 2004, Barber rushed for 1,518, 1,860 and 1,662 yards.
Barber also claims in the book that he was shorted about $10 million in his career by the Giants, who underpaid him compared with other top running backs.
Kill yourself.
barber is a douche. if he really stil wanted to play and coughlin was making his life hell he would have demanded a trade or sat out till he was released or something...this is just a ploy to sell books. maybe he should have mentioned this during his season long tirade about retiring and losing his passion.
check out the artists version of the Giants/Jets new home. Outside looks like a car radiator.
http://68.72.70.73/giants/
they could have allah himself come down build bless and name the stadium mecca and it still wouldnt change the fact that loser new york fans gotta share their digs with another team
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 05, 2007, 08:45:20 PM
they could have allah himself come down build bless and name the stadium mecca and it still wouldnt change the fact that loser new york fans gotta share their digs with another team
no to mention, can't even get a "new york" stadium actually in new york.
Quote from: dis12 on September 05, 2007, 05:21:29 PM
check out the artists version of the Giants/Jets new home. Outside looks like a car radiator.
http://68.72.70.73/giants/
i like how in that one mock pick of the front of the stadium where the fans are walking in...the cars parked are all benzes and BMWs.
(http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/521/greathallcg6.jpg)
Not many black folks in that shot.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 06, 2007, 01:07:31 PM
(http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/521/greathallcg6.jpg)
Not many black folks in that shot.
thats the shot im talking about.
and by not many you mean none right?
Sad, isn't it?
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 06, 2007, 01:02:21 PM
i like how in that one mock pick of the front of the stadium where the fans are walking in...the cars parked are all benzes and BMWs.
those are the giant wine and cheesers from connecticut
It's funny how all the Jets fans look like farging slobs, though, isn't it?
:-D
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 06, 2007, 01:32:16 PM
It's funny how all the New York fans look like farging slobs, though, isn't it?
:-D
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 06, 2007, 01:07:31 PM
(http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/521/greathallcg6.jpg)
Not many black folks in that shot.
If you squint real hard and turn your head to the side... the lady in the tree's shadow looks kinda black.
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 06, 2007, 01:58:46 PM
If you squint real hard and turn your head to the side... the lady in the tree's shadow looks kinda black.
Condoleezza Rice?
Halle Berry?
There's a brother in Strahan jersey down in the right side.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 06, 2007, 01:07:31 PMNot many black folks in that shot.
You ever been to an NFL game? Not many black folk there...not in Philly and not in NY, that's for sure.
Everyone knows when you do a picture like this there has to be a specific set of people. Light-skinned black chick with crazy hair. Asian kid. White chick. Man with a thick mustache, flannel shirt, and hard hat.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 06, 2007, 11:12:43 PM
Everyone knows when you do a picture like this there has to be a specific set of people. Light-skinned black chick with crazy hair. Asian kid. White chick. Man with a thick mustache, flannel shirt, and hard hat.
That sounds like a Mikey D's commercial.
Same thing here.
ESPN reported Manning will miss a month, but the Giants deny it
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 10, 2007, 05:39:25 PM
ESPN reported Manning will miss a month, but the Giants deny it
Any word on their other injuries (Jacobs, Umeniyora)
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 10, 2007, 05:40:15 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 10, 2007, 05:39:25 PM
ESPN reported Manning will miss a month, but the Giants deny it
Any word on their other injuries (Jacobs, Umeniyora)
Jacobs has MCL sprain out at least a game, Umeniyora MRI negative, still hurting.
i read 3-5 weeks for Jacobs
Osi might be out for up to 2 months they are reporting
So they won't have Manning, Jacobs, or Osi for the next month. Oh well, I'm sure they'll be fine as long as nothing happens to Jeff Feagles.
For anyone wondering, the Eagles play the Giants on Sunday night in three weeks. 8)
another bad karma thread
The Giants still suck. They should have put up 30+ against this pathetic team.
2nd half collapse...commence
worst pass defense in the league, picks Eli 4 times, returns them for touchdown 3 times.
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
Quote from: SunMo on November 25, 2007, 03:28:59 PM
2nd half collapse...commence
worst pass defense in the league, picks Eli 4 times, returns them for touchdown 3 times.
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
This and the racists loss will help ease the pain of tonights annihilation.
That may have been their easiest game remaining
at Chicago
at EAGLES
vs Washington
at Buffalo
vs New England
WIN
WIN
WIN
WIN
LOSS
Just in case you sinister unfeeling jerkfaces don't go to the tailgating board, I am looking for a ticket to the Giants game next week. Stupid meany-pantses.
Derrick Ward broke his leg and is done for the season. The Eagles might see some Brandon Jacobs next week.
That's what we're hoping. He's supposed to start practicing again this week.
I heard a commentator/analyst (maybe Steve Young?) went completely ballistic about Eli Manning, saying he's no better than a journeyman/backup, and the Giants have really made a serious error hanging their hat on him as the QB. He said there is zero chance the team does anything significant in December or January with him at the helm.
I completely agree. He's actually the worst starting QB in the division, behind McNabb and even Campbell.
***Cue 350yd, 4TD performance against the Eagles***
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 04, 2007, 10:33:34 AM
***Cue 350yd, 4TD performance against the Eagles***
That makes sense. It's a near-meaningless game against a mediocre team. Fits his MO nicely.
In the NFC there are very few meaningless games. Every win counts since there's so many mediocre teams with playoff chances. *shrug*
As for Eli, I'm not ready to panic or toss him under the bus just yet. Do I think he will ever go down in the record books as one of the greatest QBs to ever have played the game? My guess is, umm, no.
He does have it in him to have big games when his head is right (and a coaching staff change wouldn't exactly make me cry). I'd rather have a well-rounded team that doesn't rely on a sole position to be able to win...
I'm just glad that they traded away a pile of draft picks that turned into pro-bowlers for Eli. That warms my nuggets.
If there ever was a case to me made for "intangibles" at the QB spot, Eli makes it. Because he has none.
Unstoppable... Eli Manning is!
Quote from: FastFreddie on December 07, 2007, 10:46:58 AM
Unstoppable... Eli Manning is!
I can't describe to you how much I laughed at that commercial when they played it right after he threw 3 "pick 6''s against the Vikings. :-D
I love his tuff guy, 2 yard stare, in that spot. He's as soft looking as they come.
eli = beaker from the muppet show
Fractured fibula for Shockey, done for the year :poison
Ha.
Not just broken...needs surgery because ankle is also injured. Ha, ha.
couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
farg him
The Giants are awful, its comical watching Jacobs drop pass after pass
lol at Sheli choking in the 2nd half of the season...............AGAIN!
He's dropped like five passes tonight alone.
Eli is horrible.
Even Giants fans are ready for them to find another QB. He'll NEVER be even a shred of what his brother is.
And I love it.
Oh, Shockey. lmfao.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 16, 2007, 11:25:55 PM
He's dropped like five passes tonight alone.
Giants had a total of like 9 drops. lolol
The only thing bad about this is that Shockey didn't get shot in the dick like Taylor.
Seattle and Tampa are probably dreaming sweet dreams of playing Eli in the playoffs.
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I like seeing bitchass Burress getting smoked. even if it is by a taterskin.
Nice blatant taunt by Landry there. He's keeping the tradition alive in the skins defensive backfield.
the taunt is the best part of the play....get some sucka
Quote from: FastFreddie on December 20, 2007, 07:53:24 PM
Nice blatant taunt by Landry there. He's keeping the tradition alive in the skins defensive backfield.
Yup. He got flagged for it too.
It would be a great finisher if it didn't bring yellow cloth of the 15-yard ilk.
It was a good play..that catch was made without Landry sticking him.
The taunt is a spiritual shout out to ST, no doubt.
I didn't see any spit, so I doubt it.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 20, 2007, 08:09:49 PM
The taunt is a spiritual shout out to ST, no doubt.
If that was the case, he would have hit Plax in the nuts.
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 21, 2007, 11:48:08 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on December 20, 2007, 08:09:49 PM
The taunt is a spiritual shout out to ST, no doubt.
If that was the case, he would have hit Plax in the nuts.
with a Glock
Another game where you hope a meteor hits the stadium killing both teams today.
Go injuries.
7-0 Bucs. Garcia looks sharp, and surprise, surprise, the mongoloid looks like shtein.
14-7 Giants :paranoid
Send Trotter out there to head hunt.
Eli - kill him
Bitchass Plexico - kill
Giants recover the 2nd half kickoff
This ones over. Giants finally make it over the 1st round hump.
farg them.
Hoge predicted the Bucs to win 28-10
I have to hand it to Eli... he looked damn good after the first quarter.
That said, here's hoping for turbulent weather from Tampa to New Jersey.
So either the Cowboys or Giants are guaranteed a spot in the NFC Championship? :puke
Go Pack.
Spagnuolo to interview with the Falcons (http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/football/bob_blog/)
EAGLES SOUTH
Maybe they'll trade a 2nd-rd pick for Kolb
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 08, 2008, 02:58:57 PM
Spagnuolo to interview with the Falcons (http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/football/bob_blog/)
EAGLES SOUTH
Maybe they'll trade a 2nd-rd pick for Kolb
Even more amazing part of the article:
QuoteMeanwhile, Giants personnel man Chris Mara, son of the late co-owner Wellington Mara, is interviewing today for the Falcons' general manager vacancy.
When the Mara family is considering jumping ship... wow.
Kate Mara is still hot.
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 08, 2008, 02:58:57 PM
Spagnuolo to interview with the Falcons (http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/football/bob_blog/)
EAGLES SOUTH
Maybe they'll trade a 2nd-rd pick for Kolb
on wip this monring they had a local atlanta radio host on and he said that heckert all but has the job...that these last three interviews are formalities...he went on to say that arthur blank basically worships jeffery lurie joe banner and andy reid and would give his left arm to be the eagles
Gold standard baby.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 08, 2008, 03:07:14 PM
on wip this monring they had a local atlanta radio host on and he said that heckert all but has the job...that these last three interviews are formalities...he went on to say that arthur blank basically worships jeffery lurie joe banner and andy reid and would give his left arm to be the eagles
Let him hire all of them, then!
Hey, if they're into this rebuilding thing, Kolb + McFadden is a decent start...
good job today :yay
Go Packers.
I still cant figure out how they won this game;
Burress with 1 catch
No Shockey
A secondary made up of guys who should be stocking shelves at the grocery store
Nothing much from Bradshaw and Jacobs
Spagnuolo was literally praying on the sideline on that last drive
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 13, 2008, 08:16:32 PM
I still cant figure out how they won this game;
Spagnuolo was literally praying on the sideline on that last drive
Easily answered.......
(http://www.giantszone.com/images/8042_1_b.jpg)
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 13, 2008, 08:16:32 PM
I still cant figure out how they won this game;
Burress with 1 catch
No Shockey
A secondary made up of guys who should be stocking shelves at the grocery store
Nothing much from Bradshaw and Jacobs
Spagnuolo was literally praying on the sideline on that last drive
Big change from the last couple of games. They only gave Bradshaw the ball 6 times for 34 yds. Thats still over 5.5 yds. a carry. They need to get that man the ball more. He's a playmaker.
Osi likes to shtein on girls (http://www.withleather.com/post.phtml?pk=4790)
They might be in the SB but this is hilarious
his last name literally translates to 'human urinal'
Great story. farg New York.
This Giants team barely beat the Eagles twice this season, but both the Eagles and Giants gave the Patriots all they could handle.
Frankly, I don't care who wins the Super Bowl now. Ruining perfection is fun, and the Giants winning would mean Eli is untouchable (and unstoppable!) for years. But then, the Giants would have won the farging Super Bowl.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 21, 2008, 07:20:05 AM
Frankly, I don't care who wins the Super Bowl now. Ruining perfection is fun, and the Giants winning would mean Eli is untouchable (and unstoppable!) for years. But then, the Giants would have won the farging Super Bowl.
Perfectly stated.
farging Super Bowl.
Quote from: shorebird on June 03, 2007, 12:06:06 PM
oh my (http://www.nj.com/columns/times/eckel/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1180843713110440.xml&coll=5)
QuoteGIANTS -- Despite winning just two of their final six games, the Giants, at 8-8, were a playoff team last year.
That's not going to happen again this year. The team made some minor moves to fix its many problems, but those Band-Aids are not going to stop all the internal bleeding.
It starts with lame duck head coach Tom Coughlin, who figures to be in his final season.
Tiki Barber, the heart of the offense, is gone and Reuben Droughns is hardly a suitable replacement. It also doesn't help that wide receiver Plaxico Burress and tight end Jeremy Shockey show up to camps if and when they feel like it.
Defensively, the team's back seven remains a problem, and other than first-round pick Aaron Ross, the team did little to make it better.
While next year could be a bad one, there is hope for the Giants. Their best offseason move was the hiring of personnel man Marc Ross, who will be GM Jerry Reese's top assistant. Ross knows talent as well as anyone in the league, so in time the team will be back.
Mark Eckel, ladies and gentlemen
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 22, 2008, 10:52:26 AM
Quote from: shorebird on June 03, 2007, 12:06:06 PM
oh my (http://www.nj.com/columns/times/eckel/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1180843713110440.xml&coll=5)
QuoteGIANTS -- Despite winning just two of their final six games, the Giants, at 8-8, were a playoff team last year.
That's not going to happen again this year. The team made some minor moves to fix its many problems, but those Band-Aids are not going to stop all the internal bleeding.
It starts with lame duck head coach Tom Coughlin, who figures to be in his final season.
Tiki Barber, the heart of the offense, is gone and Reuben Droughns is hardly a suitable replacement. It also doesn't help that wide receiver Plaxico Burress and tight end Jeremy Shockey show up to camps if and when they feel like it.
Defensively, the team's back seven remains a problem, and other than first-round pick Aaron Ross, the team did little to make it better.
While next year could be a bad one, there is hope for the Giants. Their best offseason move was the hiring of personnel man Marc Ross, who will be GM Jerry Reese's top assistant. Ross knows talent as well as anyone in the league, so in time the team will be back.
All of :CF, ladies and gentlemen
The Giants were a mediocre team during the regular season but got "hot" and played their asses off to win a few games in the playoffs. They had rookies, has-beens, and unknowns stepping up and making plays. They deserved the NFC title as much as anyone in the NFC, for what it's worth.
I felt like they earned their victory against Tampa Bay, but Dallas and Green Bay both laid massive eggs in their games against New York. That had as much to do with it as the Giants getting hot at the right time.
You could give the Giants credit for the aforementioned egg-laying, but you're probably right not to.
I felt that Green Bay blew it against the Giants more than Dallas did. It's really hard to beat a team 3 times in one year coupled with the fact that the Giants had been playing well in previous weeks and Dallas had not.
For Green Bay to lose that game, especially in those conditions was a joke. Mike McCarthy must have had Andy Reid on the phone at half time for advice because Ryan Grant only carried the ball 13 times for the entire game and didn't get a single carry on the final 3 posessions of the game (2 reg, 1 ot). The result being 10 total offensive snaps (8 pass, 2 punt, 1 pick). Awesome. I wonder if Packer fans are going to rent a billboard like they did for Mike Sherman when he didn't go for it on 4th and 1 against the Eagles a few years back.
I know the Giants defense was doing a good job against the run but a guy who rushes for 950 yards in 8 games and is coming off a 200 yard game the week before had better get the ball more than 13 farging times.
When I posted that article, I have to tell the truth and say I pretty much agreed with every word. Well......I was WRONG!!
Also, I don't think that the Packers and Dallas lost those games as much as the Giant defense just plain kicked ass, 'specially against the Cowboys. Against the Packers, Eli was great. His stats don't tell the whole story, not with the dropped passes I saw. Shoot, he'd have had at least 50 more yds. if Plax holds onto that pass he caught at the 5. From a guy who looks like he should be running at the special Olympics, Eli was scrambling and throwing on the run, across his body a few times for completions. And I'm talking tight ass spirals! He looked like he wasn't affected by the cold at all. Say what you want, but for any qb, much less the Eli Manning we've seen blow whole seasons for the last 3 years, to go into Lambeau Field and beat the friggen' Packers when it was -1 degree pretty much changes everything I've ever thought about him. His mechanics were good, and he wasn't throwing off his back foot when he got pressure which is how he throws 90% of his ints. He was rolling out and buying time.
He's been in the league four years and is in the Superbowl.
I reiterate, ELI MANNING IS IN THE GODAMN SUPERBOWL!
I know there were probably some crazy die-hard Giants fans who bet just that in Vegas. The odds had to be high. They have to be rolling in dough right now.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 21, 2008, 12:52:29 AM
Osi likes to shtein on girls (http://www.withleather.com/post.phtml?pk=4790)
They might be in the SB but this is hilarious
QuoteHe wanted me to have sex with him and one of his brothers at the same time. He also wanted me to try it with another one of his teammates that was staying there. I said no because I didn't want to be passed around like that.
So I decided that for three grand I'd let him shtein on my face instead. I told him for an extra grand I'd let him do it without the cellophane.
QuoteRUEGAMER HAS A SCREW LOOSE
One of the practical realities of covering the NFL for nearly a full decade is that nothing surprises me anymore.
And, then, I get surprised.
Giants offensive lineman Grey Ruegamer admits that he once assisted in the castration of 200 young lambs. And he accomplished the task without the aid of any tools or knives or other instruments.
He used his teeth.
"You grab the forelegs and pin them to the ground, and then you grab the back legs and throw them on their back," Ruegamer said. "[A]way you go. It's the way the Basques do it. . . . [Y]ou pull them out with your teeth, spit them in a bucket, next one."
Okay, now I'll never be surprised again.
thats gay, he likes lamb dick
Lets hope he never gets the urge on the bottom of a pile.
note to self - never get into wrestling match with Ruegamer
if that's true, it's farging awesome
if it's not, it's still awesome that he has the nerve to pass it off as true to a reporter
Ruegamer killed Sean Taylor with his teeth?
A Super Bowl win gets you 2 more years of Feagles and 3 more years of Tynes
Just saw a Yahoo article where it is rumored that Eli is going to be on the cover of Madden '09 (and thus, hopefully, the recepient of next season's Madden Curse).
The Giants are reportedly prepared to send the No. 31 overall pick in the draft to the Falcons in exchange for CB DeAngelo Hall.
That should fuel their implosion nicely. Too bad they got rings first.
I disagree. He was miserable in Atlanta and the team blew. He's already one of the top CB's in the league and going to the SuperBowl champs will only fuel his abilities. Great pick up if it happens
Sorry, I was clearly mistaken. A guy like Hall will obviously flourish under an understanding coach like Tom Coughlin. He doesn't have severe character flaws that will cause more problems than his benefit on the field. He isn't a complete pain in the ass.
Thanks for the insight.
ha...a pain in the ass. welcome to the nfl
thats right... going to different teams, champions, new atmosphere could do nothing for your career. thanks for clearing that up.
reese makes a good point. But if you don't want to take his word for it, then ask Randy Moss.
Hall is a loudmouth malcontent. He's also poison in the locker room (remember the Michael Vick nonsense?). Trading for him would be a horrible move for the Giants especially if Coughlin is sticking around because Hall is exactly the type of douchebag that Coughlin hates on his team. It makes no sense whatsoever for the Giants to make this move.
Therefore, I support this proposed thrade wholeheartedly.
just like it made no sense for the Cowboys to acquire Owens, and look what happened
cant see why you would supports a shut-down corner in the Eagles division, especially the Giants just because you "think" Coughlin cant handle him
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 22, 2008, 12:13:29 PM
reese makes a good point. But if you don't want to take his word for it, then ask Randy Moss.
Fantasy players love Randy Moss due to his record-setting regular season. The Patriots might think differently based on him completely disappearing during the playoffs. Let's see if they bring him back next year.
Quote from: reese125 on February 22, 2008, 12:31:31 PM
just like it made no sense for the Cowboys to acquire Owens, and look what happened
They lost their first playoff game two years in a row and drove away a Hall of Fame coach.
Randy Moss and the Patriots are thought to be very close to agreeing on a contract extension, if they haven't already.
Every major newspaper in Boston printed the same sentiment this morning. Moss and the Patriots have made their desire to sign a long-term deal very clear, leading to speculation the two sides have a verbal agreement in place.
Source:Boston Globe
Hey, I'd love to play it "safe" and assume that NY acquiring a highly-talented guy like Hall will be catastrophe for the Eagles. But he's never given anyone any reason to believe he's not a complete idiot. 15-yard penalties, locker room malcontent... Good luck with that.
The good news is that IGY probably agrees with you. Savor that.
why
Quote from: FastFreddie on February 22, 2008, 12:50:10 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 22, 2008, 12:13:29 PM
reese makes a good point. But if you don't want to take his word for it, then ask Randy Moss.
Fantasy players love Randy Moss due to his record-setting regular season. The Patriots might think differently based on him completely disappearing during the playoffs. Let's see if they bring him back next year.
Quote from: reese125 on February 22, 2008, 12:31:31 PM
just like it made no sense for the Cowboys to acquire Owens, and look what happened
They lost their first playoff game two years in a row and drove away a Hall of Fame coach.
Moss might not have had a great postseason but it certainly wasn't because he had a poor attitude about anything. He had a history of being a malcontent in Oak and Minn but when you put him in a good environment with strong leadership like NE, he goes on to have one of the single greatest seasons ever had by a WR.
Using Owens as an example was dumb on reese's part. It doesn't support his argument at all. If anything, it would counter his argument. Owens had no reason to be a malcontent in Philly (other than money). It was already a winning environment when he got here. Dallas was a .500 club when he went there. So which team had the better environment to go to?
Yeah it was real dumb...the guy was a friggin mess both San Fran and here (still is), trashed his QB, fights in the locker room, etc. But for some odd reason the Cowboys take him.. and he shows no signs of trouble and produces like a mother farger. Thats my point
When players make a switch, they have the ability to make something positive happen with the team. Its been proven
Let it be known for the record that I think much more of Randy Moss as a person and as a player than I do of DeAngelo Hall.
Following that logic, I think the Giants would benefit themselves by using the #31 or trading it for a better player and person. So, if they trade it for Hall, that's just fine with me.
Quote from: reese125 on February 22, 2008, 01:10:12 PM
Yeah it was real dumb...the guy was a friggin mess both San Fran and here (still is), trashed his QB, fights in the locker room, etc. But for some odd reason the Cowboys take him.. and he shows no signs of trouble and produces like a mother farger. Thats my point
TO wanted money. Plain and simple. The Cowboys gave it to him and TO stopped bitching. He didn't have some dramatic personal turn around because the Cowboys were a better environment. They were barely a .500 club before he got there. They had an ancient QB in Bledsoe and an unknown in Romo. There was absolutely nothing about the Cowboys that would be attractive to a WR except $$.
ill take my chances with a 24 year old all pro caliber corner who may or may not work out
vs
a guy who ive yet to draft who may or may work out
winning teams takes chances...losing teams and teams stuck in mud sit back and do everything the right (ie 'gold standard') way....i would give 19 for deangelo much less 31 which is a no brainer
plaxico burress says (http://chat2.globalpinoy.com/images/emoticons/wave.gif)
I told you IGY would agree.
Quote from: reese125 on February 22, 2008, 12:31:31 PM
just like it made no sense for the Cowboys to acquire Owens, and look what happened
Thanks for making my point for me. The Cowboys haven't done shtein in the playoffs with Me-O and he caused Parcells to run screaming for the hills.
the point wasnt to see if the guy himself can win the Superbowl or keep coaches around, it was to see if he could still produce at a high level without making trouble--and he did both.
Not a chance in hell you can blame Owens for the Cowboys collapse this year
Blame the Cowboys o-line, if anything.
Why not blame Jessica Simpson like my Cowgirl fan students?
Quote from: reese125 on February 22, 2008, 06:48:31 PM
the point wasnt to see if the guy himself can win the Superbowl or keep coaches around, it was to see if he could still produce at a high level without making trouble--and he did both.
Not a chance in hell you can blame Owens for the Cowboys collapse this year
Yeah, winning in the playoffs and being a good teammate are totally overrated. As long as you produce in the regular season, you're golden.
football is a team game and no one player outside of a franchise qb takes you to the sb...however a great player like a TO is going to get you to the playoffs more often than not (provided you have even abover average talent elsewhere...and once you get into the post season everyone has a shot
for you to downplay his influence on a team romey reeks of desperation on your part...
screw TO lets go with nice flowery fluffy guys like kevin curtis....after all we dont wanna win we wanna have the lifetime movie network of football teams and all just be good teammates...hip hip hooray!!
His influence on the Eagles was 100% negative in the end or have you forgotten that small point? And what has he accomplished thus far in Dallas? How many playoff wins has he brought for the Cowboys? Oh, that's right - he's brought the exact same number as he did in Philly... ZERO.
You're wrong about that cock and you're wrong about bringing thugs and miscreants into the mix as well. You don't need to be a pouting, preening, showboating dickhead in order to be a winner, IGY.
Star Ledger reporting Plax wants a new deal...
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 24, 2008, 02:21:12 AM
football is a team game and no one player outside of a franchise qb takes you to the sb...however a great player like a TO is going to get you to the playoffs more often than not (provided you have even abover average talent elsewhere...and once you get into the post season everyone has a shot
for you to downplay his influence on a team romey reeks of desperation on your part...
screw TO lets go with nice flowery fluffy guys like kevin curtis....after all we dont wanna win we wanna have the lifetime movie network of football teams and all just be good teammates...hip hip hooray!!
Why can't you give the Kevin Curtis crap a rest?? The only reason you and all the other haters around here bust on him is because he made you all look like idiots. You just can't admit you were wrong about him. You still think Reggie Brown is better. He was
good for this team and flat out the best receiver ON this team!! With him this team is one go to guy away from having one of the best receiving corps in the game. Without him we have Brown and Lewis=Thrash and Pinkston. He's not a top 10 wr but he's not
half as bad as you want everyone to think he is just because you said he couldn't get open. STFU already!
TO is a self serving egomaniac who was so damn fake crying about the press saying mean things about
his qb that I wanted to puke. What has he won?? Nothing.
you can't win a super bowl with a white #1 wr.
fact.
Tell that to Joe Montana.
.....and you forgot that you can't win with any white linebackers either. Or so it seems in concreteland.
for the one millionth time its white OUTSIDE linebackers
The Giants are reportedly close to signing Sammy Knight to replace Gibril Wilson.
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 03, 2008, 03:56:38 PM
The Giants are reportedly close to signing Sammy Knight to replace Gibril Wilson.
it's official (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3274613)
This is the 2nd time in a few years that they have allowed a DB to walk in order to sign an equally, or less talented, yet much older replacement.
Weird.
4 more years ($21M) for Coughlin (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-giants-coughlin&prov=ap&type=lgns)
From KFFL: "Hot Off The Wire":
Giants | Team agrees to terms with Carr
Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:19:04 -0700
Mike Garafolo, of The Star-Ledger, reports the New York Giants signed unrestricted free-agent QB David Carr (Panthers) to a one-year deal Wednesday, March 12, according to a source close to the team. Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.
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He might be a better backup than J-Load
(http://www.newsoxy.com/img/news/eli_manning.jpg)
Eli Manning got married yesterday to the blonde tramp in the blue dress
+/- 3 months before she is blowing some backup linebacker on the giants with a big wang.
20 bucks says guy whimper already been in that ass
If there were a look-test for a trophy/gold-digger wife, that bitch would score 100%.
Is that Ann Coulter?
50 bucks says MDS has no idea who Guy Whimper is.
(http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/pete_mcentegart/03/22/ten.spot/tx_eli.jpg)
you think this attractive walleyed couple will breed a squad of Super Bowl qbs?
I knew it! It is Ann Coulter!
I looked close but didnt' see horns and a tail
I know this has nothing to do with the current conversation, but I just looked at this thread and need to reiterate-- I know that the Giants won the super bowl, and I know they beat the Pats...but I STILL just don't think they're more than an average team. I just can't see it.
Quote from: Zanshin on April 21, 2008, 04:02:34 PM
I know this has nothing to do with the current conversation, but I just looked at this thread and need to reiterate-- I know that the Giants won the super bowl, and I know they beat the Pats...but I STILL just don't think they're more than an average team. I just can't see it.
they are an average team when you take away their pass rush. unfortunetaly they have a plethora of guys who can get to the qb and a dc that knows how to use them.
Absolutely true...take away that pressure at all, and they're arguably less than average.
Take away their ability to rush the passer and they are hot garbage. That is the only thing they have going for them, but they know how to maximize that strength.
How big a part of that do you guys think Strahan is? I know they've got other good rushers, but he's still the one seeing all the double teams. If he retires, does that make the pass rush drop off enough so it's not so big of a strength?
Yes.
Quote from: Zanshin on April 21, 2008, 04:12:58 PM
Absolutely true...take away that pressure at all, and they're arguably less than average.
They have one of the best passing games in the league, and won the Superbowl without their starting TE, played all year with Plax, one of the best wr's in the league, hurt at about 50%. They have a rookie runningback that reminds a lot of people around the league of Bwest. Plus they have a bull rusher in Jacbos to go with Bradshaw, who will have a years experiance under his belt when the season starts.
When the new season starts, and they get everyone back healthy, ala Plax and Shockey, they will be even better than the team that won the Superbowl.
And although losing Strahan will hurt somewhat, if you think he was the only player getting to the qb for them, you must have missed the Superbowl. Kawika Mitchell and Justin Tuck were all over Brady and played their asses off the whole pre-season.
You can talk all the crap about taking away thier pass rush, this and that, it has no bearing on the facts. To call the team that just won the Superbowl avg.
if you do whatever is ridiculous. You guys are grasping at straws.
They have a qb who passed for 3,3336 yds. and 23 td's with his two best weapons either hurt or out for most of the season. They have a running back who rushed for over 1,000 yds. and a 5.0 avg. per carry. Even hurt, Plax had 1025 yds. and 12 tds. Toomer complimented him with 760 yds. Jason Tuck had 10 sacks, Osi Umenyoiora had 13 with 5 forced fumbles for all you who think losing Strahan will hurt them so bad.
That is not an average team by any stretch of the imagination.
Quote from: Diomedes on April 21, 2008, 07:54:41 AM
you think this attractive walleyed couple will breed a squad of Super Bowl qbs?
(http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/07/images/large/C_6_cooper5_200388_1107.jpg)
I'm sure they'll have nice normal names too
as long as Peyton doesn't hand down that rainbow sweater to his son, he should turn out normal
farg man, that sweater is the bomb
I'd wear that if vigy doesn't beat me up for it
so you're (thanks Sun) diggin those OshKosh B'Gosh's too?
Peyton and Sheli are still rocking the same haircut that they had 20+ years ago.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 21, 2008, 07:57:30 PM
Peyton and Sheli are still rocking the same haircut that they had 20+ years ago.
Payton's Haircut (http://youtube.com/watch?v=GDy669q-_7U)
but seriously...look at that photo. Peyton is confident, Eli is soft and the other one, who no one cares about, seems dumb happy, kinda like Ringo.
you're killing me today, dio.
A+ for the ringo reference.
that picture makes me angry
Quote from: Rome on April 21, 2008, 10:04:11 PM
you're killing me today, dio.
A+ for the ringo reference.
Simple pleasures for simple folks, I guess.
peyton is one missing chromosome away from looking like this
(http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/gallery/2004/05/26/timzaccheo-toe.jpg)
I thought Peyton was one missing chromosome away from looking like Eli.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2008, 09:21:28 AM
peyton is one missing chromosome away from looking like this
(http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/gallery/2004/05/26/timzaccheo-toe.jpg)
Jim Thome?
(http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/lol-giant-fan-400x261.jpg)
holy farg that made me laugh
:=) Strahan To Retire (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8225886/Coming-off-Super-Bowl-win,-Strahan-to-retire) :=)
Quote from: Gene on June 09, 2008, 11:46:35 AM
:=) Runyan Can Start Sleeping Well At Nights (http://runyan%20can%20start%20sleeping%20well%20at%20nights) :=)
I know what article you were trying to post, but it didn't work out.
Bye-Bye Strahan, please stay away from the announcers booth.
Fixed.............I guess the gap between my ears is larger than the gap in his front teeth.............. :-\
all downhill from here for the Giants (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3437205)
the best part is that eli is never going to win the sb ring everyone practically fitted him for on his draft day
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 12, 2008, 03:07:07 PM
the best part is that eli is never going to win the sb ring everyone practically fitted him for on his draft day
Yeah, and if he does, he certainly won't be given credit as MVP for a victory primarily won by his defense.
Lorenzen was waived today
I heard he ate everything on his way out.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 24, 2008, 02:52:23 PM
I heard he ate everything on his way out.
Did he lick Eli's ass though?
Giants fans to dig deep for seats in new stadium
TRENTON, N.J. (AP) -- The New York Giants will charge fans between $1,000 and $20,000 for the right to buy season tickets in the new stadium they are building with the New York Jets.
The Jets have not said if they plan to sell personal seat licenses, but Thursday's announcement makes it appear inevitable both teams will do so.
The Jets did not immediately return a call.
Giants co-owner John Mara said most of the 82,500 seats in the stadium, scheduled to open in 2010, will carry seat license fees of $1,000. Less than 5,000 seats will carry license fees of $20,000.
Mara acknowledged he is worried about angering longtime fans of the Super Bowl champions. The charge applies to each seat a ticket-holder owns.
"We tried hard to come up with a plan that guarantees everybody the opportunity to stay in the building," he said.
He said it would be "extremely difficult" to build the $1.6 billion stadium in the Meadowlands -- whose cost is being split evenly by the two teams -- without asking fans to help pay for it through seat licenses. Mara said the license fees will raise $300 million to $400 million.
Personal seat licenses are used by team owners to build stadiums. The one-time payments guarantee the buyer the right to control the seat for as long as the team plays in that stadium, and can be transferred or sold for whatever the market will bear. Besides paying once for the seat license, fans still have to pay the cost of season tickets each year.
thanks John, my kids appreciate it
Shockey to the Saints for 2 draft picks (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8364800/Sources:-Giants-to-trade-Shockey-to-Saints)
The Saints' offense has the potential to be so sick... and farg Shockey.
You'd still draft him if you had any TE slots that weren't shared with WR's.
Bad move for the Giants.
For all the bitching and complaining that Shockey was doing, he's still a damn good TE... and I don't care what Boss did over 6 games, he's still an unknown. They're moving a pro bowler.
New Orleans' offense is going to be ridiculous.
He will be missed... ^-^
(http://www.imagedonkey.com/out.php/i432_shockeyshocked.gif)
that clip is priceless...he's such an idiot it's amazing
I never get tired of watching that.
if he was acting, he'd win an award..
he's a grown-large caricature of a 10 year old bully
how impressive has the saints offseason been...they have a chance to be really good
Seriously though, what the farg was he thinking with that double-pointing half-bounce celebration?
"awww yeaaahh"
and nothing more
Quote from: Diomedes on July 21, 2008, 06:18:59 PM
if he was acting, he'd win an award..
he's a grown-large caricature of a 10 year old bully
That's the best description of him that I've ever come across. Well done.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 21, 2008, 06:21:02 PM
how impressive has the saints offseason been...they have a chance to be really good
not better than the juggernaut in Landover, though
But really, if the NO defense can manage better than lower third in the NFL, and if they can get a few big plays out of their STs, then the offense should be able to pull that team deep into the offseason, no?
I'm pretty sure every team goes deep into the offseason.
The Giants will be fine without Shockey. They never used him to his full potential anyway. And Boss is gonna' be just as good in that offense. He already has been.
Sounds like some people in Philly are taking Giants hate to a new level (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3535417):
QuotePHILADELPHIA -- Federal investigators have charged a Philadelphia man with trying to blackmail New York Giants coach Tom Coughlin by sending him letters threatening to expose a fictitious sexual tryst with two women.
Herbert Alex Simpson, 30, is accused of sending Coughlin two letters on July 30 and July 31, allegedly from women claiming to have had a sexual encounter with the coach in December when the Giants were in Philadelphia.
The letters demanded the coach pay $20,000 to $30,000 or his life would be made "a living hell by doing something to [his] family," according to court documents filed Thursday.
Investigators interviewed the women named in the letters, who said they knew nothing about them and never met Coughlin. The women also identified the handwriting as belonging to Simpson, a former coworker who they said had written threatening letters to others in the past, authorities said.
Well... now we know what's going to lead 11pm SportsCenter tonight.
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 14, 2008, 08:15:37 PM
Well... now we know what's going to lead 11pm SportsCenter tonight.
Yeah... Brett Favre.
Michael Phelps is the new Brett Favre.
Knowing a lot of Pats fans can be annoying:
http://giantscheated.com/GiantsCheated.htm
If your slides show the bars over the hand, it's probably not a facemask penalty.
that dude spent 16 hrs on a slide presentation and not one of the slides showed a facemask being grabbed. Nice work
I need to have my forensics experts look at it a bit more, but you're probably right.
Who cares? farg the Pats. They didn't lose because of the Refs. They lost because they couldn't cover a half crippled receiver who couldn't even run all out.
Didn't the Eagles sign their top coverage guy for big money? Ruh roh.
Oh..........yeah.
Umenyiora carted off with a knee injury too
Giants gave up 8 sacks...
Did the announcers find a way to give Favre credit for motivating the Jets defense?
Well I'm sure they were prepared to be out there on a moment's notice.
please let that baby be blown the farg out.
Star Ledger reporting he's done for the year (http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/08/source_umenyiora_to_undergo_su.html)
Let's trade them Clemons for Burress.
But seriously, Winston Justice can stop wetting himself for one year at least.
Justin Tuck, Matthias Kiwanuka and Dave Tollefson would still bust out their pimp hands on Winston.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 24, 2008, 02:58:17 PM
Justin Tuck, Matthias Kiwanuka and Dave Tollefson would still bust out their pimp hands on Winston.
Funney.
QuoteNew York Giants aren't ready to ante up for Pierce
by Mike Garafolo/The Star-Ledger
The Giants have resolved a situation with one unhappy Drew Rosenhaus client in Jeremy Shockey and are in the process of working to please another with Plaxico Burress' contract situation.
Already, another one is starting to develop.
Giants middle linebacker Antonio Pierce, the unquestioned leader of the defense now that Michael Strahan has retired, is unhappy with his contract and has been asking the team for a renegotiation all offseason to no avail, according to someone who recently spoke with Pierce about his contract situation. The person, who requested anonymity because Pierce hasn't spoken publicly about this issue, said Pierce's frustrations have mounted as the regular season has drawn closer, and the team has continuously denied his requests to even talk about redoing the last three years of the six-year, $26 million contract Pierce signed before the 2005 season.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3552159
lol
8 mill to skip all of training camp to just go out and play on Sundays..hmmm...let me think about it
his child support payments are fo rilla...plus jean took him for half last year
David Tyree PUP-listed (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/news/story?id=3554456). No helmet catches until mid-October.
According to Jay Glazer, Gappy is staying retired. (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8492730/Strahan-turns-down-Giants,-will-stay-retired) He's got a bunch of direct quotes from Strahan, so it seems legit.
I have to believe if the Giants offered him enough money, he'd come back. How much that would be, I don't know. Maybe 10 mil. if the Giants think they need him that bad.
the FOX studio has air conditioning
It'll be nice not to have to hear about Strahan and his good friend Favre both pushing off retirement and playing in New Jersey together.
McDougle signed....1 year, $1M
I look forward to his 20 sack season.
I look forward to him sucking or getting injured. A flash in a couple preseason games doesn't make him someone else. He's still McDougle.
Rosenhaus gets Burress an extension: 5 years $35 million
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/09/rosenhaus_confirms_burress_new.html
no youtube video was used in the negotiations
http://www.nygiantsgirl.com/rebyskygiants/album/index.html
Skinny. White. Bitch.
... that would get her back blew the farg out.
new Giants/Jets stadium might be named after insurance company that funded the Nazis (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10972569)
Supposedly the deal is off now
(http://blog.nj.com/giants_impact/2008/09/medium_Picture%20337.jpg)
They really captured his "retarded and proud of it" look beautifully...
Plaxico suspended 2 weeks (one game)...
Hopefully this turns Owens-like ugly..
3, 2, 1...
And it's not even Mother's Day
Bad day for the Giants...Dick Lynch, former player and color commentator for the past bunch of years on WFAN died at 72.
His son was actually killed in the WTC attacks...
QuoteREPORT: BURRESS HAD PAST DOMESTIC DISPUTES
UNKNOWN IF SUMMER INCIDENTS RELATED TO SUSPENSION
Post Staff Report
Last updated: 7:56 pm
September 24, 2008
Northjersey.com reports tonight that "Totowa (N.J.) police responded to two domestic disturbance calls at Giants receiver Plaxico Burress's home the past few months," borough police confirmed.
The Web site for The Record of Hackensack says, "It could not be determined whether the incidents had anything to do with Burress' suspension by the Giants today ..."
The Web site reports that the incidents occured on June 2 and Aug. 19. It says restraining orders were issued but then overturned in state court.
Pat Hanlon, a spokesman for the Giants, told reporter Ed Beeson the team will "not comment on a player's personal life."
Burress was suspended today for two weeks after missing a film session Monday and failing to contact the team. His agent, Drew Rosenhaus, said the absence was caused by a family emergency and that Burress would appeal the suspension, which would cost him almost $235,000 in salary and cause him to miss a game Oct. 5.
NORTHJERSEY.COM story
http://deadspin.com/5055403/seahawks-message-board-poster-succeeds-in-creating-rivalry-with-the-giants-fails-as-human
Seahawks board fuels the rivalry with certain message board posts.
I can't quite put my finger on it, but I believe I've seen similar topics like that before. Can't remember where though.
QuoteQ: How many Giants fans died in 9/11?
A: Who the F cares?
haha im terrible
QuoteQ: What was the last thing going through Mr. Jones' head when he was working on the World Trade Center's 90th floor?
A: The 91st floor.
Q: What is the New York City Fire Department's favorite song?
A: "It's Raining Men"
"It's a bird!"
"It's a plane!"
"It's.... Oh shtein, it IS a plane!"
I'm sorry... but those are farging hilarious! :-D
QuoteBURRESS SUSPENSION CAPPED A STRING OF FINES
Posted by Mike Florio on September 28, 2008, 12:46 p.m.
When Giants receiver Plaxico Burress was slapped with a two-week suspension, our immediate reaction was that it couldn't have been a first offense.
We later heard that it wasn't, and that Burress had been AWOL in the past during his time with the team.
Jay Glazer of FOX reports that Burress had been fined on 40 to 50 occasions in three-plus years with the Giants. This year alone, Burress already has drawn ten fines.
The Giants are geting ready to eat it 34-14
Wow. Losses for every division opponent this week to a win for the Eagles.
Think about that shtein, DAMN!!
you really didn't 3 posts to make that point
yeah i three post.
twas a great game to watch. i thought for sure the phillies lost that one...so i stuck to the browns kicking the shtein out of the gints. little do i know watching sports center after, phils came back and won! what a great weekend for philly
Quote from: mussa on October 14, 2008, 09:47:30 AM
twas a great game to watch. i thought for sure the phillies lost that one...so i stuck to the browns kicking the shtein out of the gints. little do i know watching sports center after, phils came back and won! what a great weekend for philly
Seriously?
I swear to god mussa is actually a 7 year old.
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 28, 2008, 01:04:41 PM
QuoteQ: What was the last thing going through Mr. Jones' head when he was working on the World Trade Center's 90th floor?
A: The 91st floor.
Q: What is the New York City Fire Department's favorite song?
A: "It's Raining Men"
"It's a bird!"
"It's a plane!"
"It's.... Oh shtein, it IS a plane!"
I'm sorry... but those are farging hilarious! :-D
holy shtein theres at least ten of them that have me literally crying laughing right now
the knock knock one is the dumbest hilarious thing ive heard in a while
Quote from: mussa on October 14, 2008, 09:47:30 AM
twas a great game to watch. i thought for sure the phillies lost that one...so i stuck to the browns kicking the shtein out of the gints. little do i know watching sports center after, phils came back and won! what a great weekend for philly
NFL blowout over Phils NLCS.
You and IGY should hook up and watch some TV together.
farg the Giants.
QuoteBURRESS SHOOTS HIMSELF IN THE LEG, ACCIDENTALLYPosted by Mike Florio on November 29, 2008, 11:05 a.m.
Multiple sources tell us that Giants receiver Plaxico Burress has shot himself in the leg.
Apparently, Burress was carrying a loaded gun. And the gun went off.
The incident happened on Friday night/Saturday morning. His condition currently isn't known.
Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com also is reporting this one, and he'll soon have a story up with additional details.
Though at this point the player's health and well being is the primary concern, what the hell was he doing with a loaded gun?
It also remains to be seen whether he faces charges for carrying the loaded gun, and whether he ultimately encounters scrutiny from the league for violating the Personal Conduct Policy.
UPDATE: Glazer reports that Burress spent the night in the hospital, and that his injuries are not life threatening. Per Glazer, the team is still gathering information regarding the incident.
http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/
Apparently he was out at a club when he shot himself. Too bad he missed the femoral.
It's amazing to me how consistently stupid professional athletes are. Maybe some day I'll get used to the idea.
Reggie Brown would never shoot himself.
Quote from: Wingspan on November 29, 2008, 04:46:51 PM
Reggie Brown would never shoot himself.
He'd try, but he'd drop the bullet.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 29, 2008, 11:44:57 AM
It's amazing to me how consistently stupid professional athletes are. Maybe some day I'll get used to the idea.
well, jocks are stupid by rule. sure, there are exceptions to the rule, but few and far between.
so it only makes sense that the most successful ones are also stupid
come on, you're smarter than this
I don't buy that. I know plenty of smart people who were 'jocks' or at least very athletic. The 'jock' versus 'nerd' stereotype is overly simplistic in my experience. Logically, I'm inclined to think it's more likely a combination of two things:
1. Only the most ignorant, not-fit-for-normal-human-interaction athletes make these kinds of headlines.
2. The very best athletes are coddled and worshiped from such an early age that they don't bother attempting to learn or be anything other than ignorant muscle-bound treestumps.
Either way, shtein like this certainly lends itself towards your 'jocks are stupid' theory, so maybe I'm way off base here...
How many date rapers aren't jocks?
I don't know any date rapers, sadly. I hear they have the good drugs.
no shockey no tiki no plax no strahan no bradshaw no osi no matter
forget spagnulo i want the giants PP dept
Plexiglass turned himself in, he's looking at a maximum of 15 years, i'd bet he doesnt spend a day in jail.
The taterskins have a pretty good D against the pass, and Eli carved them up. His first TD too Toomer was a perfect throw and impossible to defend.
giants were also missing fred robbins
A Burress Story (http://www.tiricosuave.com/2008/12/01/a-burress-story/)
a better story is going to be when they clear $23 million off their payroll when/if they cut or trade Burress after the season.
they should suck for a long time
pretty awesome sweater worn by derrick ward yesterday.
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2008/12/20081202ward.jpg)
a man riding a giraffe? so sweet.
thats actually a horrendous design by LRG--urban hip hop apparel
He has an autograph session with them dec 8th
why I have no idea
thats an awesome shirt and i want it
go right upstairs in IGY's closet...Im sure you'll find one next to his Cross Colors shirts and Fubu jeans
burress suspended for 4 games...basically for the season.
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/nursetpd/NFL/BurressBullet.gif)
Quote from: Magical_Retard on December 02, 2008, 06:04:59 PM
burress suspended for 4 games...basically for the season.
More importantly, they slapped him on the reserve non-football injury list. Thus, Plax is shutdown for the playoffs, too.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on December 02, 2008, 06:15:55 PM
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/nursetpd/NFL/BurressBullet.gif)
I was waiting for someone to call him Cheddar Bob.
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 02, 2008, 07:27:38 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on December 02, 2008, 06:04:59 PM
burress suspended for 4 games...basically for the season.
More importantly, they slapped him on the reserve non-football injury list. Thus, Plax is shutdown for the playoffs, too.
He might of Vicked himself out of football
lol pac man is still in the league....plax has a lot more to do before hes anywhere close to being out of the league
Please never mention a talentless dickhead like Crackman Jones in the same sentence with Plaxico Burress.
thxkbye.
huh?
Translation:
Plaxico Burress is a much better football player than Pacman Jones.
what on gods earth are you talking about
RCIF
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 04, 2008, 07:45:05 PM
lol pac man is still in the league....plax has a lot more to do before hes anywhere close to being out of the league
Hell there's a chance Vick will be back in the league. Plax will be out there next year.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 04, 2008, 10:08:43 PM
RCIF
I have no idea what that means, but it made more sense than Rome's comment about Plaxico and Pacman. Both of those retards are good enough football players to score touchdowns against the fargin' Eagles.
Reading
Comprehension
Is
Fundy
Burress will be a Raider.
If he somehow avoids the clink.
......or a taterskin.
Are you people fargin stupid?
I'd take Plaxico as an Eagles quicker than IGY could recite the lyrics to a Marky Mark & The Funky Bunch rap tune.
I second that
I'd agree to that, provided he doesn't go around shooting his mouth off.
Shotgun formation ftw.
Color me retarded then because I wouldn't want that shteinbag on my team.
LOL - yeah, you're right. They have Kevin Curtis & Reggie Brown after all. Who needs actual talent at the position?
Plaxico excels at catching high passes that only he can reach. McNabb needs a receiver who excels at catching passes that impact the ground several yards in front of the route.
Well, I don't think Chad Lewis is coming out of retirement any time soon.
Quote from: Rome on December 06, 2008, 10:53:54 AM
Are you people fargin stupid?
I'd take Plaxico as an Eagles quicker than IGY could recite the lyrics to a Marky Mark & The Funky Bunch rap tune.
Why the hell not? At least it would be interesting.
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2008/12/plaxico.jpg)
keep staring, you'll never see it.
No, I see it.
oh look, a sailboat
Funny, I see a scooner.
I've got a tug.
I just see a hot piece of ass
no doubt she's real smart too
I thought it was just a really warm thigh.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 16, 2008, 02:13:14 PM
I just see a hot piece of ass
no doubt she's real smart too
actually i'm pretty sure she's a lawyer.
I rest my case
she was great on the fresh prince.
They all look alike to you folks in Pennsyltucky.
The Newark Star-Ledger reports that 37 yr old free agent WR Joe Horn arrived in New York Tuesday night and will take a physical with the Giants Wednesday morning.
I mean...I dont even know what to...
GET YO CELL PHONE READY!!
Horn failed the physical. Too bad, I was looking forward to seeing that slow old man in blue.
Damn, how desperate are the Giants getting?
we'll know when they bring in Fredex
Nobody is ever bringing in Freddie, ever.
You never know, they may order BBQ one day.
lol
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/
QuoteThe 36-year-old receiver, who worked out for the Giants today, is apparently not happy that he was asked to leave without signing a contract. He believes the Giants never had any intention of signing him, that they just brought him in to create some sort of "spark" among the young receivers they already have.
haha at AP
http://www.nypost.com/seven/12152008/news/regionalnews/plax_pal_in_game_of_touch_144286.htm
Link (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AlrSzIK3FWv1t4vl1XJr1SU5nYcB?slug=ap-burress-crash&prov=ap&type=lgns)
QuoteBurress was driving without insurance before crash
14 minutes ago
Buzz up!0 votes PrintFORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP)—Add this to the growing list of Plaxico Burress' problems: getting in a car crash and not having insurance on his nearly $140,000 Mercedes-Benz.
The New York Giants wide receiver was sued last week in Florida's Broward County Circuit Court for rear-ending a woman in May.
Compounding the Super Bowl star's defense, according to a document provided by the woman's attorney, is the fact his car insurance lapsed three days before the crash. A letter from Allstate says Burress neglected to pay his premiums.
Burress' attorney, Adam Swickle, declined comment.
Burress is still serving a team suspension for shooting himself Nov. 29 in a nightclub with an illegally carried handgun.
Uh oh! (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3791174)
QuoteAuthorities seized a small cache of weapons and ammunition from the New Jersey home of New York Giants wide receiver Plaxico Burress, multiple New York media outlets reported Wednesday, possibly setting up the embattled player for more legal trouble.
The New York Post, citing anonymous law enforcement sources, said a 9-mm handgun, a rifle and ammunition for three other guns -- a .380, a .45 and a .40, the same caliber of gun Burress accidentally shot himself with -- were seized during the execution of a search warrant at Burress' home in Totowa.
...
Also found in the search -- but not seized, since it was unconnected to any criminal allegations -- was a suitcase full of money.
...
Burress was also sued last week in Florida's Broward County Circuit Court for rear-ending a woman in May while driving his nearly $140,000 Mercedes-Benz without insurance.
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 24, 2008, 09:31:16 AM
Uh oh! (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3791174)
QuoteAuthorities seized a small cache of weapons and ammunition from the New Jersey home of New York Giants wide receiver Plaxico Burress, multiple New York media outlets reported Wednesday, possibly setting up the embattled player for more legal trouble.
The New York Post, citing anonymous law enforcement sources, said a 9-mm handgun, a rifle and ammunition for three other guns -- a .380, a .45 and a .40, the same caliber of gun Burress accidentally shot himself with -- were seized during the execution of a search warrant at Burress' home in Totowa.
...
Also found in the search -- but not seized, since it was unconnected to any criminal allegations -- was a suitcase full of money.
...
Burress was also sued last week in Florida's Broward County Circuit Court for rear-ending a woman in May while driving his nearly $140,000 Mercedes-Benz without insurance.
If this doesn't prove his sub-burger-cooker IQ, nothing will.
It looks like the Jets want Spagnuolo bad.
Two threads on BBI worth a laugh....
http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=320265
QuoteQuestion about Brian Dawkins
mjvm52106 : 11:10 am
I have watched him play for his entire career and though I can't remember when he started wearing the oversized chinstrap with the extra padding, I can say that I believe the NFL should look into the reasons behind wearing it if it should be banned.
Ok, before getting all nasty hear me out.
If that chinstrap and the extra padding is not there because of an old injury (broken jaw, concussions) then you have to wonder why he wears it other than it allows he to go more helmet to helmet than a normal chin strap would. Dawkins is known as a fierce hitter but over the last 5 years his hits to the head (even as a player is going to the ground), have increased dramatically. Right now he has exceeded Rodney Harrison as the cheap shot artist of the NFL and the NFL's most dirtiest player.
That chinstrap is padded heavily allowing for more helmet to helmet contact for Dawkins while keeping the face mask, chin and overall head of his protected far more than the players he is hitting. Would he be so daring if he didn't have that extra piece of padding and protection?
http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=320278
QuoteJim "Juice" Johnson
Thomas : 12:24 pm
Hey, I respect this guy for what he's been able to accomplish in the NFL. Same for Buddy Ryan. But does this guy personally stir steroids into his players cereal, or does someone else do it? As far back as I can remember (and this really goes for DAL and PHI) - they have always featured "steroid freaks" on their teams - especially defensively. Or could it be more that the Eagles look for self-made steroid users as part of their employment strategy? Regardless, the use of performance-enhancing drugs looks to be almost a pre-requisite to playing over there.
Lets look at the current defensive lineup. Any suspicious physiques?
I'm going to start with Trent Cole
The guy was 6'2 236 when he was drafted in '05. I remember the undersized LB/DE tweener talk. Now, he's listed at 270 lbs. at NFL.com.
Don't have to go very far for the next prospect: His linemate, DT Brodrick Bunkley. Remember this legendary ball of muscle at the Combine? The guy looked like Appollo Creed with his shirt off. Benched 44 reps at the Combine and ran 5.0 flat.
And then you've got the "Juice Brigade" of other puffy physiques, such as Brian Dawkins, Sheldon Brown, Akeem Jordan, Omar Gaither, Juqua Parker and Chris Gocong. All of these guys just look funny, particularly in the upper body.
And this is on the heels of several high-profile free agent additions with similar physiques - Hugh Douglas, Jeremiah Trotter, Jevon Kearse, Takeo Spikes, etc. And remember SS Michael Lewis? Not that good, but a physical monstrosity.
Anyone else notice this? Is so, do you care? Does it make you hate the Eagles even more? I'm under no illusions that there aren't "users" on the Giants, too, but through the years, these suspicious physiques aren't as apparent for the boys in blue, IMO.
(I thought Wilson, Mitchell and Shockey were 3, and all were shown the door.)
Those douchebags hate Dawk with a passion since he lit up Ike HIlliard a few years back.
I hope he kills someone on Sunday.
http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=320261
QuoteWho is your least favorite current Eagles player???
bxgiants4 : 10:54 am
Lots of choices
-McFagg and his pathetic dancing?
-Dawkins and his dirty, helmet leading hits?
-Akers the low life kicker who likes to fight and run away?
-John Runyan who holds on every play?
-Asante Samuel who rolls around the turf like he got shot then comes back and picks off a pass?
I vote Dawkins
That shtein is pathetic. Douches.
anybody that has played football can tell you that aside from ferocious rash it gives your chin, it is incredibly uncomfortable not having good padding there after any kind of tackle
could be one of the gayest things I ever read
They've all lost focus. They should hate Westbrook more than anyone.
Quote from: General_Failure on January 05, 2009, 01:20:37 PM
They've all lost focus. They should hate Westbrook more than anyone.
I personally laughed at McFagg. :-D
I think ppl in general just like Westbrook. He is quite, never says anything stupid, and never dances.
I for one hope that McFagg gets to dance all day long.
yeah gocong is definitely on the juice. i wish i still had his shirtless combine photo saved.
lol at the Eagles D being on juice :-D
Do the Eagles even have 1 300 pounder on D? We have been bitching about having a big run stuffer for years. Dicks.
when i look at Sean Considine, i think steroids
Listening to Mike Francesa and he mentioned how the Giants desperately needed the bye week. Said the players were exhausted and nicked up and they personally told him (he mentioned Tuck) they needed that little break.
Wonder if that moron knows who Koy Detmer is?
Wow... and to think of the division rivals, I considered Giant fans to be the smartest ones.
You're not exactly setting the bar very high there, chief.
http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=320467
This old guy, who admittedly has few friends, dresses up Eagle dolls and drags them through the parking lot.
All the more reason why I am re-considering going up there...
Need a new action short for your portfolio?
I hear you need to tape your wrists.
That guy is retarded, right?
If you are talking about the giant fan, what gave it away? I bet he drives around the parking lot in a three wheeled bike, with a bell to ring.
Ding fries are done.
Holy crap here comes Jesus!
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QuoteJerry Reese: Door open for Plaxico Burress to return to Giants
BY Ralph Vacchiano
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
Sunday, January 11th 2009, 10:30 PM
Giants GM Jerry Reese admitted Sunday that the Giants were a different team without Plaxico Burress. He also said that Burress "absolutely" could return to the Giants next season.
What he didn't say was what has to happen for Burress to return. But the troubled receiver is still under contract with the Giants and Reese told the Daily News a few weeks ago that he plans to meet with Burress in the near future. Reese has never ruled out bringing Burress back.
And Sunday, he made it clear the Giants could've used him.
"Obviously it's hard to replace that," the GM said. "The guy has a presence out there and when you lose that, teams play you differently. Your margin of error is way less when you don't have a guy with that kind of presence out there. Your margin for errors goes way down so you have to capitalize on every opportunity you have."
The Giants didn't do that in their 23-11 loss to the Eagles. They managed just 169 passing yards, but other than a 34-yard pass to Domenik Hixon didn't get much from their receivers.
And since Burress' four-game, season-ending suspension began, the Giants have lost four of five. Eli Manning only completed 54% of his passes (74-for-137) for 783 yards, two touchdowns and four interceptions in those five games.
"Obviously the guy has a presence when he's on the field," Reese said. "But do (the Eagles) have a Plax out there? I don't think so. They have good receivers and we have good receivers. They made the plays we didn't."
SPAGS CHASE: Defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo is now free to be interviewed and possibly hired by any NFL team that's interested. He has been interviewed by the Jets, Lions, Broncos and Browns. According to a report, the Lions would like to bring Spagnuolo in for a second interview this week. Last night, ESPN reported that Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels had reached an agreement to coach the Broncos.
TOOMER FAREWELL? In what could be his final game as a Giant, Amani Toomer caught just two passes for 26 yards, and none until midway through the fourth quarter. Toomer, who can be an unrestricted free agent in March, did not speak to the media after the game.
NOT SO SNEAKY: Manning may have plunged into the wrong gap on his fourth-and-inches failed quarterback sneak with 12:39 left in the fourth quarter, but the guys who have led the Giants' power rushing attack all season couldn't believe they couldn't help him get one yard.
"There's no excuse for that," said center Shaun O'Hara. "The quarterback sneak is as elementary as it gets. To not be able to get a few inches on fourth down is inexcusable." ... This was the first game in NFL history that ended with a score of 23-11.
How could he return? Won't he be in prison?
speaking of that qb sneak by Manning that got stuffed--watching Pattersons determination on that play game me a friggin chubby
Quote from: Diomedes on January 12, 2009, 09:57:29 AM
How could he return? Won't he be in prison?
His offense was likely not heinous enough for him to go to jail. He'll buy his way out of it.
Retarded looking bastich.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 12, 2009, 10:04:14 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 12, 2009, 09:57:29 AM
How could he return? Won't he be in prison?
His offense was likely not heinous enough for him to go to jail. He'll buy his way out of it.
NY has mandatory prison for gun violations, don't they?
It's tough to say. He's rich, but he's black. Could go either way.
money trumps race
still, he's going to have a hard time avoiding prison from what I can tell
mandy three year minimum is the law on the books for an unregistered weapon
Quote from: Diomedes on January 12, 2009, 11:11:08 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 12, 2009, 10:04:14 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 12, 2009, 09:57:29 AM
How could he return? Won't he be in prison?
His offense was likely not heinous enough for him to go to jail. He'll buy his way out of it.
NY has mandatory prison for gun violations, don't they?
Bloombergs law is a manditory jail sentence - and he came out after the incident and said Plaxico will be treated like anyone else who committed the same offense.
To be honest, there should be no reason why he
wouldnt go to jail.
Sooooo, what are we looking at here? 4 days in jail and a $500,000 fine/donation to Bloomberg's favorite charity?
Bloomey has a hard on for two things at the moment...putting Plax away and fighting for Israel. Hopefully he puts Plax in jail before he goes to combat only to be shot at in friendly fire.
NY Times on the Giants packing out their locker room. Meanwhile in other news, the Eagles are preparing for another game, and they get another paycheck. Giants Suck.
QuoteJanuary 13, 2009
Giants Pack, Leaving a Load of Issues
By JOE LAPOINTE
EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. — As Giants players loaded bags with their locker contents Monday, one stall that stayed cluttered belonged, oddly enough, to Plaxico Burress, whose season ended long before the team was eliminated from the N.F.L. playoffs.
Burress's space, which is situated next to quarterback Eli Manning's, was still filled with warm-up clothes, a dozen pairs of shoes, gloves, pictures of his family and various green-and-white mementos from Michigan State, where he played in college.
A prayer fastened on an inside wall of the locker ended with the words, "I'm thanking you because Father, you haven't given up on me." On what felt like the last day of school, Burress, the Giants' truant student, was not there in body but was still on everyone's mind.
Burress might have made a difference in the Giants' 23-11 loss Sunday to Philadelphia, which sent the Eagles to the National Football Conference championship game at Arizona this Sunday. The winner of that game will play Pittsburgh or Baltimore in the Super Bowl.
Or, perhaps Burress would not have helped. He already had a hamstring injury when he accidentally shot himself on Nov. 29. Hamstrings sometimes need time to heal. His health, his legal affairs and his roster status will occupy much of the off-season.
Jerry Reese, the team's general manager, said Burress "has certain things in his personal life he needs to get cleaned up." When asked if the Giants would accept him back, Reese said, "Never say never."
Burress has been in physical rehabilitation for his wound, Reese said. He compared Burress to Spider-Man for his size and pass-catching skills. "I want to see him be O.K. as a person, turn over a new leaf in his life, take care of himself first," Reese said.
Other issues facing the Giants, who failed to successfully defend their Super Bowl title, include the free agency of their two top running backs, Brandon Jacobs and Derrick Ward, as well as safety James Butler and Amani Toomer, the veteran receiver.
Steve Spagnuolo, the defensive coordinator, is a candidate to coach the Jets, the Detroit Lions and the St. Louis Rams. The Giants have two kickers, John Carney and Lawrence Tynes, for one role. "There's always changes," Reese said.
Jacobs said again Monday that he hoped to return to the Giants, his team since his rookie year of 2005, but that it was a matter of money. "Change with us is going to come down to presidents," Jacobs said, referring to the images on currency. "Set ourselves up after this violent sport is over."
Jacobs played the last few games with a sore left knee. He said he did not expect to have surgery. Justin Tuck, a defensive end, played with various injuries to his right leg. Tuck and Coach Tom Coughlin said no surgery was expected, but they did not sound certain.
Tuck said, "At this point, no," and Coughlin said, "I don't think so." But Coughlin added: "It takes time. It's going to need to be rested." He also said that he told players that if they needed surgery, they should have it done right away.
Tuck said he was planning to go to the Pro Bowl, which will be played Feb. 8 in Hawaii. He wore a blue varsity-style jacket with an old-school Giants logo of a player passing a ball above the old Yankee Stadium, before it was remodeled.
Sack totals dropped drastically in the late season for Tuck and his teammates on the defensive line. "Pretty banged up," Tuck said of their injuries.
Most players were available to reporters Monday. But noticeable in his absence for a second day was Antonio Pierce.
Pierce is the middle linebacker and a captain, a key spokesman. But his performance sagged noticeably after he was with Burress in a Manhattan nightclub when Burress wounded himself in the thigh.
Pierce was at the team meeting Monday, and Coughlin said they spoke. "He's sorrowful, disappointed, probably a little bit discouraged," Coughlin said. "How many times are you the No. 1 seed? I'm sure he's reflecting on that today."
Pierce said often in recent weeks that he was tired. He is 30 and has played eight seasons. It is not out of the question that the Giants would use free agency, trades or the draft to seek out another middle linebacker.
They also may seek receivers. Burress has been charged with two felonies, and Reese said it would not be smart to put "all your eggs in that basket." The N.F.L. Players Association has filed a grievance against the Giants seeking to recover Burress's pay.
Burress has four years remaining on a five-year, $35 million contract signed hours before the season's first game. Toomer, Steve Smith, Domenik Hixon and other receivers were unable to replace the connection that Burress had with Manning.
Manning said Burress had not returned his messages. But David Tyree, an injured receiver who missed the season after last winter's Super Bowl heroics, said he has been in contact with Burress recently.
"The cloak of invincibility has now passed," Tyree said, seemingly speaking of Burress and the team in general. Tyree is religious and frequently speaks of it, including his own transformation from a wayward lifestyle.
"People want to see you pay for the mistakes you make," Tyree said of Burress. "Are you going to be the one to tear him down or to build him up?"
Manning, who was unshaven and looked tired Monday, passed poorly Sunday. Of Burress, he said, "Hopefully, you learn from your mistakes." Of himself against the Eagles, he said: "I didn't play my best. I definitely could have played better."
Coughlin, who avoided questions about Burress, said of the team and the end of the season: "It's not a good day. It's not a happy day. It's a long day. It's a tough day. Maybe it hurts more than it ever has hurt."
The Giants' locker room is also their daily clubhouse beginning in late August, and it bears their personal touches. On the cinderblock wall next to Zak DeOssie's locker is something called the "High-Motor White Guy Hall of Fame." As of Monday, those pictures remained, including a black-and-white photo of Coughlin as a Syracuse receiver in the 1960s.
Next to Ward's locker was a list of "shower pill" players, those who leave without taking showers after workouts. "That stays," Ward said.
On the other side of the room, on the floor next to Kareem McKenzie's corner locker, was the teddy bear that McKenzie decorated with a leg bandage and more recently with little shoulder pads.
McKenzie was asked where the bear would hibernate. "He stays here all winter," he said. "He's been here three years now. I come in and check on him every once in a while."
That's a nice level of turmoil in their player personnel:
-Jacobs is not going to give them a discount.
-Their WR's are certainly not fine.
-Pierce not scaring anyone anymore.
Good times.
The coaching staff will be changing again as well.
Not necessarily. Spagnuolo isn't nearly as "hot" a candidate as he was last year.
I think he'll be lured away.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 13, 2009, 10:02:02 AM
Not necessarily. Spagnuolo isn't nearly as "hot" a candidate as he was last year.
Too many openings around the league for him not to get one of them.
i dont think hes thought of any less now than last year...the defense was still nice this season and the strahan retirement and osi injury allow him some leeway if he even needs any which i dont think he does
http://www.nbcwashington.com/sports/football/Giants-Fans-Bash-a-Porsche-After-Sundays-Loss.html
:-D
I was just coming to post that - what a bunch of jersey trash
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/01/13/giants-fans-destroy-porsche-toyota-truck-after-eagles-loss/
Apparently, and you can see the Porsche is burned, the genius owners parked over hot coals. So I guess they took lessons from the dipshteins who had their RV torched in the Wach lot when they slid the grill under the RV.
Idiots (the car owners and the people in the video)
ha, i love it.
Actually, nevermind. That was another EMB'er, not Die Hard.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01142009/news/regionalnews/plax_took_shot_at_infamy_in_05_150073.htm
QuotePlaxico Burress' career as a Giant began just as it likely ended - with bullets flying.
Cops in 2005 seized a pickup truck a car dealer had lent to Burress, after one of its impatient occupants fired shots out a window while stuck behind a garbage truck, The Post has learned.
CHANGE ON MENU AFTER PLAYOFF FIZZLE
The shooting came just 13 hours before the star receiver played his first home preseason game with the team.
The driver of the 2004 Chevy Avalanche - described by a cop witness as a "really tall black guy, fast" - fled on foot with a passenger when a passing police car rolled up, said a source familiar with the Aug. 20, 2005, incident in The Bronx.
"We always had a sneaking suspicion that it might be him," said a source, referring to the speedy, 6-foot-6 Burress, who in November was busted on an illegal-gun charge after accidentally shooting himself in the leg at a Manhattan nightclub.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/2009/01/13/2009-01-13_forget_boston_we_have_new_city_to_hate.html?page=1 (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/2009/01/13/2009-01-13_forget_boston_we_have_new_city_to_hate.html?page=1)
Quote"We are sort of related," Ford insists. "We share New Jersey, a slow cousin we both have to look out for."
ha
bye Spags
Apparently they are targeting Dom Capers for the DC job. Capers was Coughlin's DC in his final years in Jacksonville.
a practice squad guy Plaxico was mentoring
QuoteDECATUR, Ala. -- New York Giants receiver Taye Biddle is recovering from gunshot wounds to his hand and leg after being shot while visiting family in his hometown.
Decatur police said in a statement Thursday that Biddle was shot outside a residence and was treated and released from a hospital. Police said there was no evidence Biddle caused or provoked the shooting.
"He had surgery on his hand today," Biddle's friend, Bruce Jones, told The Decatur Daily Thursday. "He told me his leg is OK, and he ought to be fine."
The 25-year-old Biddle grew up in Decatur and played college football at the University of Mississippi.
Police have not made any arrests in the case.
Biddle was promoted from the Giants' practice squad after receiver Plaxico Burress was suspended for a game in September.
Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press
Seems he had the same gun safety classes as Plaxico did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/0-6Tn0Ie-AQ
Hahahahahaha! Wow, I feel bad about the Eagles losing................but not quite that bad.
That would have been funny as shtein if he put a gun in his mouth and left a splat on the wall.
Check out the chick behind him doing the vag signals
Afterwards he went out back and yelled at Shake to get out of his pool.
Once something is on the internet, it' never really gone. This guy will live with this for the rest of his short life :-D
L.T. is the latest football player to join "Dancing with the Stars"
lol.... :50 secs in is my favorite.
Burress has been sued 9 times since 2000 per PFT (alert readers can glean a hint of this from the link).
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/02/09/burress-sued-nine-times-since-2000/
Quote from: Eagaholic on February 09, 2009, 08:00:49 PMalert readers can glean a hint of this from the link
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Quote
Bernard, Boley Set To Visit Giants
Friday, February 27, 2009
Posted By RealScouts 10:13 AM
The New York Giants are busy trying to add free-agent help to their defense. According to the Newark Star-Ledger, the team is entertaining both tackle Rocky Bernard (Seahawks) and outside linebacker Michael Boley (Falcons) on Friday.
The Giants were thought to be players for former Raven Bart Scott, but he is set to sign with the crosstown New York Jets. The team couldn't quite fill the hole left by Kawika Mitchell's departure last season.
With starting defensive tackles Barry Cofield and Fred Robbins both coming off knee surgery, Bernard has been targeted as a depth player and contributor on the inside pass rush.
--Vinnie Iyer
If I were the Eagles I would be making a hard run for Ward as the complimentary back they are supposedly looking for
Seemed to me that he worked hard for his yards last year and thats exactly what the Eagles need--not to mention has some nice quickness through the holes
Lions and Bengals are going after him so far
I'd like to see Ward signed too. His yards per carry dropped off when Jacobs was out and his carries increased so maybe some teams will shy away from having him as the primary back.
Boley to the Giants....5/$25M
Boley's terrible. He lost his starting spot because he can't cover for shtein.
They signed a guy who lost his job last season to a 25 million dollar deal with 10 million guaranteed?
Wow
Chris Canty and Rocky Bernard are visiting too.
lol i always knew you get your news from easy
Rocky Bernard signed
So did Canty....6/$42M/$17.25M guar
Always thought Canty was really overrated. I know they like to get at the QB but with Tuck, Umeniyora coming back and Kiwanuka that's a shteinload of money to give to Canty.
especially when Brandon Whiting is available
Grasmanis
A Tuesday afternoon in March in Mississippi? Sounds like a good time for Manning Day (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3968203)!
(Peyton didn't even show up for it)
He was off somewhere trying to talk Favre down from a ledge.
The Giants are supposedly offering a 2nd+5th for Braylon Edwards. Cleveland wanted both picks + Steve Smith.
I do not want Edwards playing against the Eagles twice a year.
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 23, 2009, 11:46:37 AM
I want Edwards playing for the Eagles 16 times a year.
Me too.
He'll miss 3 games during the regular season but kick some ass in the playoffs, right?
Sounds like the asking price for Boldin is considerably more than a 2nd +5th if the Cards do trade him. Maybe the Cards drive up the Eagles price to a second plus five or six 5th rounders.
I think Boldin is reasonably worth a 1st round pick.
To be honest, I think Braylon is too. Minus the drops (which is a HUGE problem), he is an elite WR and IMO on Anquan's level.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 23, 2009, 01:03:29 PM
To be honest, I think Braylon is too. Minus the drops (which is a HUGE problem), he is an elite WR and IMO on Anquan's level.
:-D Goes to show what you know about football. Which is a lot more than me. :paranoid
Boldin is pretty much the polar opposite to DeSean Jackson, which is why he'd be a good fit. Also, I think he's going to be more consistent and generally has a lower risk of missing time due to injury.
So, I'm on the record. I'd give up a first round pick for Boldin but would question doing so for Edwards.
I wouldnt give up a 1st for Edwards in a normal draft year...but, in a draft where you have 2 1st rounders? YES.
On the record.
without question
either Edwards/Boldin and Jackson tandem would be ridiculous
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 23, 2009, 01:10:52 PM
Boldin is pretty much the polar opposite to DeSean Jackson, which is why he'd be a good fit. Also, I think he's going to be more consistent and generally has a lower risk of missing time due to injury.
So, I'm on the record. I'd give up a first round pick for Boldin but would question doing so for Edwards.
As long as he can keep from breaking his Hoyda face
True enough.
I should also say that the Eagles FO actually parting with a #1 pick for anybody would be newsworthy enough that I'd convince myself to like the move. But basically, I think Boldin is a better fit. Plus, Edwards issues with drops are not a good match with Donovan's issues with accuracy.
I completely agree. Edwards has had one good season where he scored 16 TDs. Obviously that's a lot, but I'd say it's more of an aberration than the norm. And he seems to be more of a speed guy, making Boldin a better complement for Jackson
*edited as to not confuse/upset Irishmen with coat hangers
damn..I wasnt aware he was 2nd in the league in 2007 for drops as well. I dont like that pattern one bit
Who was 1st? TO?
Ding.
Burn TO.
Quote from: Tomahawk on March 23, 2009, 03:04:17 PM
abherrtion
that word likes like the way an irishman would say abortion.
I don't think the 16 TD year was a complete aberration. Think about it - he finally had someone behind center. Before that breakout season from Anderson, he had guys like Trent Dilfer and Charlie Frye throwing him the rock. I think last year may have been the aberration when once again he went through a litany of shtein QB's when Anderson went down. I know he hasn't consistently showed this, but I think he will be a 80 catch, 1,200 yard, 11 TD guy in a system where he would be used effectively - with a stable QB (insert McNabb joke here). Obviously, this team loves to throw, so....
no matter the qb Die, its not like he was attemting acrobat catched due to poor throws--the ball was placed dead in his hands and he dropped them and when he was completely wide open.
can you imagine that guys psyche in this town after a game with that many drops--he may never catch a ball again
Understood...when he drops a ball, it's a catch that most of us can make. And yes, this city would not take too kindly to a guy who drops balls at his frequency. I played WR...dropping balls isnt a hard thing to fix. It's about concentration and focus, or a lack thereof in Edwards case. The season which he flourished, not only did he have a top QB (albiet just for 1 season), but he played on a team that was in the playoff race till the final quarter of the final game of the season. Maybe that was motivation for him to keep focus. Who knows? But a guy doesnt just have a 16TD, 1300 yard season by accident.
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 23, 2009, 01:10:52 PM
Boldin is pretty much the polar opposite to DeSean Jackson, which is why he'd be a good fit. Also, I think he's going to be more consistent and generally has a lower risk of missing time due to injury.
So, I'm on the record. I'd give up a first round pick for Boldin but would question doing so for Edwards.
This here.
Now that there are rumors the Eagles are actually in talks for Edwards, I'm trying to get myself on the bandwagon.
Honestly... I would still rather have Boldin, but if the Eagles find a way to get either him or Edwards in green... you'd have a hard time wiping the grin off my face. My hope is somehow the Giants keep their hands off the one the Eagles don't end up with.
the only reason why I think the Giants get one of these WR's is because they have a legitimate need now, they had one before and know what it means to the QB and team...oh and that superbowl trophy thingy
all of that is complete opposite Eagles thinking
I know... but I'm hoping they'll take a page out of the Eagles' book and address their WR need with a DT.
Without Plaxico, the Giants receivers are really bad. Both Curtis and Jackson would start for them.
Jackson Curtis would start on every team in the NFL, especially the Cardinals
*edited for hilarity
That joke would have been a lot funnier if you used Curtis instead.
Ben Brafman makes me farging sick (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4018403)
Ben Barfman?
I found Brafman's email address and I decided to email his dumb ass:
"People should reserve judgment on Mr. Burress until all the facts are in this case"
I can't believe an attorney of your stature would say something like this. More facts? What other facts could possibly be more important than the fact that the man was in possession of an illegal handgun in a city that has a mandatory jail sentence for exactly that - not to mention he was in a crowded public place where any number of innocent people could have been harmed or killed. The case seems pretty cut and dry to me - but, I guess because he's Plaxico Burress he should be exonerated.
Who's next on your client list? Donte Stallworth?
And then he responded:
Please do not email me again. Thank you
:-D :-D :-D
nice. you should email him again.
I was going to email one of the following:
1. "Why? Because this email exchange is not billable?"
2. "No worries. It's clear to me you read my initial email which was my only intention."
i was thinking more like you should ask him if he'd ever voluntarily go to a night club with plax.
The longer they hold out hope for Plaxico to come back, the smaller a chance that they go after a replacement.
That's a very good point.....if Plaxico was an Eagle. Other teams tend to plan ahead though.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 27, 2009, 05:32:32 PM
hate the game.
I do...usually from early November through early September.
I love this part... if Plax gets past the courts and Goodell...
QuoteAfter that, league sources say, the Giants front office and coach Tom Coughlin want to meet with Burress to determine his level of remorse and commitment to returning as a productive and responsible member of the team.
I'm sure the Giants will put him through the ringer...
Coughlin: You sorry?
Plax: Yeah.
Coughlin: You wanna play?
Plax: Yeah.
Coughlin: OK, get out there.
Right after they trade for Boldin.
and Edwards.
Then sign Jason Taylor and convince Strahan to come out of retirement. They'll be the first team to score 600 points in a season and have four players with 20 sacks as they go 16-0. Manning will choke at home in the NFCCG because he can't throw into the wind, but they'll still do better than the Eagles.
Plaxico was released. Jerrah drooled...
I would love to have Burress on the Eagles. And no I'm not joking.
GET.
Quote from: Rome on April 03, 2009, 05:59:44 PM
I would love to have Burress on the Eagles. And no I'm not joking.
GET.
I agree :drool
So I am assuming, pretty safely, the following will happen:
Giants go ahead with a trade for Braylon Edwards. Eagles claim they tried but it takes two to tango. The Eagles do not go for Burress because he is too much of a risk and they like what they have. Besides they are waiting for Boldin. The Cardinals do not trade Boldin. Eagles claim they tried once again in the offseason, but no one wanted to give them a #1 WR. Burress signs with Dallas.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on April 03, 2009, 07:30:16 PM
So I am assuming, pretty safely, the following will happen:
Giants go ahead with a trade for Braylon Edwards. Eagles claim they tried but it takes two to tango. The Eagles do not go for Burress because he is too much of a risk and they like what they have. Besides they are waiting for Boldin. The Cardinals do not trade Boldin. Eagles claim they tried once again in the offseason, but no one wanted to give them a #1 WR. Burress signs with Dallas.
Sounds about right.
Except the part where the Cardinals trade Boldin to Chicago for a 2nd round pick this year and next.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on April 03, 2009, 07:30:16 PM
So I am assuming, pretty safely, the following will happen:
Giants go ahead with a trade for Braylon Edwards. Eagles claim they tried but it takes two to tango. The Eagles do not go for Burress because he is too much of a risk and they like what they have. Besides they are waiting for Boldin. The Cardinals do not trade Boldin. Eagles claim they tried once again in the offseason, but no one wanted to give them a #1 WR. Burress signs with Dallas.
Pretty likely but it's OK because, *cough, cough* we can win a championship with the receivers we have. I *cough, cough* feel good about the guys we have.
I'd rather bring back Torrance Small. farg Burress.
Quote from: General_Failure on April 03, 2009, 08:19:12 PM
Except the part where the Cardinals trade Boldin to Chicago for a 2nd round pick this year and next.
Holy shtein, you know how hard it has been today living with some of these pricks. A TON of Bear gear was worn in my district and town today. The bright spot was me knowing who the cubbie fans were, and rockin the Phillies jersey, they had that first look of joy then, ah shtein this is the year for the cubs look. Back to the point if they got Boldin, it would be complete madness around here and I can't handle that shtein. farg them.
Getting Burress would be a very, very distant 4th to trading for Boldin, trading for Edwards, and trading for T.O.
You guys whine about the Eagles not having any talent at the receiver position, then when a guy who is roughly ten million times better than anyone the Eagles have on the roster becomes available, you give him the gas face.
Awesome.
Talent + shteinForBrains + Andy Reid = Implosion
I don't care if Burress bangs girl scouts in his free time. He'd be a perfect addition for the Eagles offense, and he'd finally give McNabb someone to throw to and opposing defenses to worry about.
Get.
I don't require Eagles players to be mormon Eagle scouts, but it would be nice if they weren't the stupidest douchebags in the sport. I want to be able to cheer for them. Plaxico as an Eagle would probably be good for the team's SuperBowl prospects, so I'm not opposed to it.
But I can't root for the guy, and it would really chap my ass to have the kind of icehole on the Eagles who normally fits in best in Dallas or NY.
I don't disagree with that entirely, Dio, but Dallas has five Super Bowl wins and the Giants have three, and I think one of the reasons they've won so much is precisely because they'll occasionally have supremely talented iceholes on their teams.
I know I'm in the minority here and that's fine. I've just had my fill of the Kevin Curtis's and Jason Avant's of the world.
The thing is, the choice isn't between TO or Plaxico and Pinkston or Curtis. There are Boldins and Andre Johhnsons and the like out there too. Give us one of those, please.
Quote from: Rome on April 04, 2009, 08:09:11 AM
I don't disagree with that entirely, Dio, but Dallas has five Super Bowl wins and the Giants have three, and I think one of the reasons they've won so much is precisely because they'll occasionally have supremely talented iceholes on their teams.
I know I'm in the minority here and that's fine. I've just had my fill of the Kevin Curtis's and Jason Avant's of the world.
You might be in the minority, but you're not alone. Even though I'd like to take a shot at Boldin or Edwards first, I'd be the last one pissed about Burress on the team. People can feel however they want about him, but when he starts catching TD's... all that other shtein tends to be forgotten about. This WR corps is a #1 away from being one of the best in the league... and now that there are 2 or 3 that may be available, I'm not about to get picky.
Even with the suspension, I'll take 12 games with Plax over 16 with Curtis and company. He'd be a monster with the Eagles.
Quote from: Diomedes on April 04, 2009, 08:11:36 AM
The thing is, the choice isn't between TO or Plaxico and Pinkston or Curtis. There are Boldins and Andre Johhnsons and the like out there too. Give us one of those, please.
Burress is free, though. All they have to do is write him a check and he's an Eagle.
Quote from: Rome on April 04, 2009, 08:29:22 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on April 04, 2009, 08:11:36 AM
The thing is, the choice isn't between TO or Plaxico and Pinkston or Curtis. There are Boldins and Andre Johhnsons and the like out there too. Give us one of those, please.
Burress is free, though. All they have to do is write him a check and he's an Eagle.
It's still up to the courts to determine how free he is.
That's deep, son... that's deep.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 04, 2009, 09:22:07 AM
Quote from: Rome on April 04, 2009, 08:29:22 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on April 04, 2009, 08:11:36 AM
The thing is, the choice isn't between TO or Plaxico and Pinkston or Curtis. There are Boldins and Andre Johhnsons and the like out there too. Give us one of those, please.
Burress is free, though. All they have to do is write him a check and he's an Eagle.
It's still up to the courts to determine how free he is.
yeah...I was reading down all these posts and everybody is calling for Plax because he is free from the Giants, but dude still has a major felony against him. My understanding from what I read is he will have to serve something (no priors or not), and I doubt the judge would push the sentence because he wants to play around with a leather ball
I'm not familiar with New York laws on this (Law & Order never did a show about this, yet), but my understanding is, if convicted, he has to do a mandatory minimum of 3.5 years. That's not to say he can't plea it down to a lesser charge, but dook is going to do some time and probably won't be available to play in '09
Marvin Harrison says if Burress moves to Philly he won't have to do an jail time.
Yeah actually the Giants probably cut him because he will not be available this season.
BACK TO BOLDIN!
Pretty much what DIo said...I don't want choirboys but there is a line and Burress is over that line for me. The guy is a flat out moron. All the talent in the world and the dumb shtein cannot keep insurance on his cars and shoots himself in the leg.
I hope his ass goes to the clink.
Burress is an anti-social jackass. Oh, and a responsible driver. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4045389)
QuoteBurress, who faces a 3½-year prison sentence on the gun charge, replied to the each of the officer's questions and commands with an "[expletive] you" during the stop, the newspaper reported, citing police.
Broward County Deputy Sheriff Donald Harris pulled Burress over around 10:30 a.m. on March 18 for speeding on Interstate-95 near Fort Lauderdale, the Post reported. Harris opened the door of Burress' black 2008 Toyota Sequoia when the officer couldn't see inside the player's SUV.
"[Expletive] you," Burress said, according to the Post. "You can't open my [expletive] door."
Burress, who the police report said was driving like "he was going to kill somebody," was issued a $150 speeding citation, his fifth traffic ticket in Florida in the past month, the report said.
T.O. > Burress
Quote from: rjs246 on April 06, 2009, 11:01:27 AM
Burress is an anti-social jackass. Oh, and a responsible driver. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4045389)
QuoteBurress, who faces a 3½-year prison sentence on the gun charge, replied to the each of the officer's questions and commands with an "[expletive] you" during the stop, the newspaper reported, citing police.
Broward County Deputy Sheriff Donald Harris pulled Burress over around 10:30 a.m. on March 18 for speeding on Interstate-95 near Fort Lauderdale, the Post reported. Harris opened the door of Burress' black 2008 Toyota Sequoia when the officer couldn't see inside the player's SUV.
"[Expletive] you," Burress said, according to the Post. "You can't open my [expletive] door."
Burress, who the police report said was driving like "he was going to kill somebody," was issued a $150 speeding citation, his fifth traffic ticket in Florida in the past month, the report said.
Sign him now!
Without a doubt, Andy's kind of player.
QuoteTension Between Burress, Brafman
Posted by Mike Florio on April 8, 2009, 10:56 a.m.
Free-agent receiver Plaxico Burress and his criminal defense lawyer, Benjamin Brafman, currently aren't seeing eye to eye regarding the reluctance of Burress to accept the various plea deals that Brafman has negotiated.
In fact, we're told that Burress has rejected as many as three offers from prosecutors. Each one would have involved jail time — with Burress released by the start of training camp.
But Burress continues to decline any offer that requires him to go to prison.
And so the alternative is to stand trial, and to risk a mandatory sentence of 3.5 years if a jury finds that the scar in his leg from a bullet constitutes evidence that he was carrying a loaded an unlicensed gun.
Meanwhile, some league insiders are convinced that no team will be genuinely interested in signing Burress unless and until he gets the legal situation resolved.
Keep an eye on this one. And don't be surprised if the lawyer eventually fires his client.
he probably figures that if oj can stab white bitches and get away with it, then there's no reason he should go to jail for shooting himself.
is this considered black on black crime?
Depends on the gun.
It's unbelievable that A) he'd even get a plea deal that only gives him a few months in jail (not even prison), and 2) he'd reject a deal that would ensure he'd be able to participate in whatever teams training camp. What a douche
It's proof positive that he's learned nothing and will most likely continue with his self destructive behavioir.
So we should chip in to get him a bigger gun?
New York's schedule:
9/13 = taterskinS 4:15
9/20 = at Cowboys SNF
9/27 = at Buccaneers 1:00
10/4 = at Chiefs 1:00
10/11 = RAIDERS 1:00
10/18 = at Saints 1:00
10/25 = CARDINALS SNF
11/1 = at Eagles 4:15
11/8 = CHARGERS 4:15
11/15 = BYE
11/22 = FALCONS 1:00
11/26 = at Broncos Thanksgiving night (NFLN)
12/6 = COWBOYS 4:15 FLEX
12/13 = EAGLES SNF
12/21 = at taterskins MNF
12/27 = PANTHERS 1:00 FLEX
1/3 = at Vikings 1:00 FLEX
Quote
The NY Daily News reports that trade talks between the Browns and Giants involving Braylon Edwards are "all but dead."
New York has reportedly shifted its focus to drafting a WR after the Browns refused to drop their asking price of a first-rounder and Mathias Kiwanuka. The Daily News says it will take "a dramatic change of heart" by Giants GM Jerry Reese for a last-minute trade. If Edwards stays a Brown, the odds of Cleveland using the No. 5 pick on Michael Crabtree significantly reduce.
Kiwi
and a first. lol
Quote from: Eagaholic on April 23, 2009, 04:43:13 AM
Quote
The NY Daily News reports that trade talks between the Browns and Giants involving Braylon Edwards are "all but dead."
New York has reportedly shifted its focus to drafting a WR after the Browns refused to drop their asking price of a first-rounder and Mathias Kiwanuka. The Daily News says it will take "a dramatic change of heart" by Giants GM Jerry Reese for a last-minute trade. If Edwards stays a Brown, the odds of Cleveland using the No. 5 pick on Michael Crabtree significantly reduce.
Kiwi and a first. lol
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4091378
The draft coverage reminded me of when Eli was the number 1 pick and cried his way to New York. I had almost started to respect the guy, but thankfully have been brought back around to venomous hatred
Ha.
Brandon Jacobs says he does not want the Giants to trade for Braylon Edwards.
Said Jacobs: "I don't want him. There are great players in the league that I don't want. I just think the chemistry between the teammates that I have now is great. We don't need to add a new veteran to the whole group."
Source: ESPN 1050 New York
Eli 6 yr extension $97.5 mill
Eli's deal is proof positive that even someone without the requisite number of chromosomes can make something of himself.
scratch that- 7 yrs $107
$15.27 million-highest annual salary in the nfl
lol, hope they make the new stadium wind proof
Hakeem Nicks and Ramses Barden look like players so far...
And Jeremy Clark is developing into a solid rotation DT...
so happy the eagles gave the Gmen that pick for Barden
David Tyree was cut. Thanks for the helmet catch.
can not wait till 11/1 !!!!
Kenny Phillips...on IR with a Knee injury
someone just picked him up in our league
Giants awarded Aaron Rouse off waivers from GB. They have Aaron Ross and Aaron Rouse, both playing in the secondary. Ha.
thanks Arizona
It looks like the battle of the douches still hasn't been decided...
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-november-2-2009/clash-of-the-cretins
lolz
:-D
QuoteAntonio Pierce out indefinitely
Posted by Michael David Smith on November 20, 2009 8:51 PM ET
The New York Giants are on a four-game losing streak, and now they've been dealt another blow.
Giants middle linebacker Antonio Pierce was diagnosed with a bulging disc in his neck this afternoon and is out indefinitely, the team announced today.
"I'm shocked with what I heard from the doctors this afternoon," Pierce said in a statement, via Pat Hanlon on Twitter. " had no idea what happened a few weeks ago could keep me off the field."
Pierce has started all nine games for the Giants this year
Pierce now out for year
QuoteTen days after the Giants surprisingly announced Pierce was out indefinitely with a bulging disk in his neck, the team placed him on injured reserve Monday.
As Mike Garafolo of the Newark Star-Ledger points out, this could potentially spell the end of Pierce's time with the Giants. Chase Blackburn will start in his place the rest of the year.
they fired their rookie defensive coordinator (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4795970)
Jauron might end up there
now Pepper Johnson wants to come back and be their DC
(he's the Pats defensive line coach now)
I'd take Pepper back in a heartbeat.
BlueHeart!
Phreaky! Miss me? ;D
Of course, Bluey. How the hell are ya? Whatcha been up to?
I'm good, babe. Nothing exciting going on to write home about... same ol', same ol'.
How about you? Everything rolling along smoothly in your neck of the woods? Last time I talked to you, you were about to be making alot of changes. I hope everything worked out well and you're happy.
Good to hear from ya!
Yeah, things changed a lot. I'm living in Houston now (it sucks) because of a job (its good) and there's not much to bitch about other than I hit 30 last year and the Eagles still suck. The only thing I'm looking forward to is Spring Training and going to Vegas in 2-weeks.
Aye, I remember the move. Glad you're liking the job. Always a plus. LOL
Please, don't even get me started on team suckage. :( Bad, bad sports year for Miss Blue.
Vegas... sweet. Ya just can't have a bad time in Vegas. :yay
Quote from: BlueHeart on January 12, 2010, 11:45:34 PM
Ya just can't have a bad time in Vegas. :yay
(http://bp0.blogger.com/_6V6NjZLrAgo/SH56VnGG53I/AAAAAAAACjg/AgNVLtnhAO8/s400/Andy+Dick+Mug+Shot.jpg)
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Quote from: BlueHeart on January 12, 2010, 11:45:34 PMVegas... sweet. Ya just can't have a bad time in Vegas. :yay
(http://zoknows.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/tupac-shakur-biography-4.jpg)
:-D :-D
QuoteOsi says he'll quit if he's not a starter
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 3, 2010 5:12 PM ET
Giants defensive end Osi Umenyiora was benched late in the 2009 season, and says he won't stand for that treatment again.
"I'm not going to be a backup player, I can promise you that," Umenyiora said on WFAN Wednesday. "I'll stop playing football before I do that ever again. . . . So for me it's not something that I'm going to do. If I'm asked to come back there and do that then I'll just stop playing football."
hes so full of shtein
Get him on the Eagles.
get him a brain or at least a muzzle
lol that stillupfront's mom miss one paycheck and be back in that uni so fast he like usain bolt
Antonio Pierce says he was released
Injury-free, he is better than all Eagles LB's not named Bradley. Just sayin..
Quote from: Die-Hard on February 11, 2010, 02:47:00 PM
Injury-free, he is was better than all Eagles LB's not named Bradley. Just sayin..
No. Look what I said - Injury-free. If you think all things equal that Gocong, Spoon, Gaither, Mays or White are even close to the player Pierce is WHEN HEALTHY, youre out of your farging mind.
agree with the others but healthy....witherspoon and pierce are almost identical players. pierce might get more credit because of the d front of the Giants and the name recognition, but Spoon was making the same/if not better shtein happen on a hapless Rams squad
and from a cover basis...the edge goes to spoon as well. pierce has been crushed in the media numerous times for his inability to do just that for the past 3 years, and has been on the decline from a speed and cover standpoint since
Pierce is going to be 32 this season. A year ago I would have agreed 100%, but this past season, before the injury, the dude looked awful, and extremely slow. I'm not saying the guys the Eagles have are better, not by a long shot, but only that at this point in his career, he wouldn't be an upgrade.
I can possibly see how you can make a case for Spoon, but even so, he never would have been an Eagle had Bradley not been hurt.
And, of course, we all know the Eagles never sign old, injured linebackers.
Quote from: Die-Hard on February 12, 2010, 08:28:20 AM
No. Look what I said - Injury-free. If you think all things equal that Gocong, Spoon, Gaither, Mays or White are even close to the player Pierce is WHEN HEALTHY, youre out of your farging mind.
i agree but bradley isnt exactly injury free right now
All the better. The only thing the Eagles FO likes more than an injured LB on the cheap is an injured LB on the cheap and a guy fresh off a year of NovaCare rehab.
Tiki Barber cheats on and leaves wife, pregnant with twins (http://newyorkpost.com/p/news/local/timing_tiki_plays_field_TMZxMDNXxvBbNgVBToZL8O)
New girlfriend look test = PASS
(http://newyorkpost.com/rw/nypost/2010/04/07/news/photos_stories/johnson072254--300x300.jpg)
what an incredible farging douchebag.
Seriously. Just wear a condom, Tiki.
hot
He clearly made the right choice
Quote from: SD on April 07, 2010, 10:00:08 AM
He clearly made the right choice
Racist against AZN?
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 07, 2010, 09:44:21 AM
Tiki Barber cheats on and leaves wife, pregnant with twins (http://newyorkpost.com/p/news/local/timing_tiki_plays_field_TMZxMDNXxvBbNgVBToZL8O)
Tiki's pregnant w/ twins? Cool.
not hot enough to leave your wife and kids over. skinny. white. booch.
i like this picture better...
(http://simg.sportsbybrooks.com/c/c/ccca1cd6a3422cdc4e7c25ec247d1a00_tracilynnjohnsonphotos.jpg)
Oh damn, he knocked up some chick from The Sims.
Quote from: SD on April 07, 2010, 10:00:08 AM
He clearly made the right choice
yeah this belongs in the giants dont suck thread
sure about that?
(http://simg.sportsbybrooks.com/8/a/8a52c3cb2a7dc5bf8d98b2ff9fb8af03_tracijohnsontikimistressphoto.jpg)
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2010, 03:13:53 PM
yeah this belongs in the giants dont suck thread
i don't believe such a thread exists, has existed or ever will.
I literally have no problem with this. Staying with someone you don't want to be with just because they are pregnant or have a child with is probably one of the dumbest things you can do.
Don't like the cheating part...but who am I to judge.
agree and disagree. it's stupid to stay with someone you aren't happy with just because you have kids. and i say that from experience because i stuck it out w/my ex wife about 2 years longer than i really wanted to because we had kids together. but i was miserable, and as a result, i know it wasn't creating the best environment for my kids. however, i think it's kind of farged up to leave a woman during the pregnancy. at least have the decency to stick around through the birth, make sure everything goes well, etc, etc. then if you want to pull chocks once they're hatched, then that's on you.
of course, i have no idea what their relationship is like right now. maybe everything is amicible between them and he'll still be around to help her out as she nears the end of the pregnancy, during the delivery and after care.
Or how about you don't get your wife pregnant when you aren't happy in the marriage. Do you think everything was peachy when she got pregnant and in the few months since then he's decided to start cheating? Please. Don't knock up bitches that you don't want to attached to for a long long time.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 07, 2010, 04:47:56 PM
Or how about you don't get your wife pregnant when you aren't happy in the marriage. Do you think everything was peachy when she got pregnant and in the few months since then he's decided to start cheating? Please. Don't knock up bitches that you don't want to attached to for a long long time.
Agreed, but accidents happen even if they are inexcusable.
She probably nagged him to the point where he couldn't take it anymore. Pregnant women think you owe them something because you knocked them up. In the end, he showed her by getting a hotter younger bitch. Good for you, Tiki.
sd seems to have turned into a certifiable, woman hating prick during his recent sabbatical. i like it.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 07, 2010, 09:20:27 PM
sd seems to have turned into me during his recent sabbatical. i like it.
Or grew a pair and got rid of whatever harpy that had been beating him down for the last X years. Just a guess.
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg103/Sun_Mo/Meadowlands4-21-2010001.jpg)
die stadium...die
Does this mean Akers will actually be able to make a field goal in the state of New York Jersey now?
well the new one is about 30 feet from the old one, but is perpendicular to how the old field ran. the winds seem to come heavy from the NE corner and flow one way instead of swirling.
in short, no...no he will not.
They were killing the Giants pick on NFL radio. I was kind of surprised, they were saying that he is too raw for the Giants to take a team that has needs right now. I like his athleticism but he is very raw.
Don't smoke crack. (http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/06/nfl-star-lawrence-taylor-arrested-in-rape-investigation/?hpt=T3)
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 22, 2010, 11:33:00 PM
They were killing the Giants pick on NFL radio. I was kind of surprised, they were saying that he is too raw for the Giants to take a team that has needs right now. I like his athleticism but he is very raw.
i read that the giants werent happy how he handled their first camp. He was cramping up, and was having back issues
Quote from: rjs246 on May 06, 2010, 10:51:28 AM
Don't smoke crack. (http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/06/nfl-star-lawrence-taylor-arrested-in-rape-investigation/?hpt=T3)
Especially if said crack is only 16 years old.
I will say this in his defense, its not like you're gonna ask a Hooker if she's a 16 yo runaway. From the sounds of it, the girl told her uncle she got farged by LT, and they saw dollar signs.
i'd like to know how he smokes so much crack AND keeps his teeth so white.
This (http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/article/2010-05-07/alleged-victim-reportedly-told-lawrence-taylor-she-was-19) is the kind of people LT deals with.
so, because of the proximity to the new stadium, the old one can't be imploded.
i was amazed at how fast they were getting it done, until I saw the method they were using.
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg103/Sun_Mo/34rjarr.jpg)
it all makes sense now.
That is farging fantastic :-D
:-D :-D
PCOTFE
Awesome. I'm blowing that shtein up and framing it.
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2010/05/21/gal_giantstadium21.jpg)
Fake
Legit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVMBv0Qzy5w
Didn't see Die Hard in the video either.
Fake.
i guess youve heard about my devious plan to trick people into thinking football stadiums around the country are imploding
Vet demo >>>>>>>> This piece of shteins demo
Domenik Hixon blew out his knee during the first practice at the new stadium
the field is christened then
i guess i did my job eh
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Quote'Broke' Tiki Barber Can't Afford Divorce Settlement After Alleged Affair With NBC Intern
Published June 23, 2010
Troubled former New York Giants superstar Tiki Barber claims he is broke and unable to pay the divorce settlement demanded by the mother of his four children after he was axed from NBC's "Today" show, the New York Post reported Wednesday.
Barber -- who ditched his wife of 11 years, Ginny, for 23-year-old blond former NBC intern Traci Lynn Johnson -- claims his career is in tatters and that he has taken a huge financial hit since his estimated $300,000 NBC contract ended.
Barber has not been on the air in many months -- but sources said his contract was only formally terminated in May.
Network insiders said "Today" show bosses secretly ended their deal with Barber due to a hidden "morality clause" which specified that stars must not be involved in public scandals.
The Post revealed in April how Barber dumped then-eight-months-pregnant wife Ginny for the former intern. Ginny, who also has sons A.J., 7, and Chason, 6, with Barber, gave birth to twin girls last month.
QuoteTeam Tiki: Ex a blood$ucker
Last Updated: 9:58 AM, June 23, 2010
Posted: 12:27 AM, June 23, 2010
Tiki Barber's buddies are blasting claims that the ex-Giants superstar is too broke to pay a divorce settlement demanded by the mother of his four young kids -- saying Ginny Barber is trying to bleed him dry while herself squandering cash.
And a close Barber friend said Ginny's camp has been obsessed with smearing Tiki since he left her for a young blond while the wife was pregnant with twins -- while Tiki has focused on getting shared custody of the kids.
"Ginny wants $150,000 per month from him in alimony'' and child support that outraged pal fumed to The Post's Dan Mangan. "In due time, if Tiki was dumb enough to give her that amount, he would be broke."
Former NFL football player Tiki Barber
UPI
Former NFL football player Tiki Barber
"P.S.: She's hired a baby nurse to take care of the kids for $60,000," the friend said. "And Ginny's legal bill is approximately $75,000 per month to Nancy Chemtob," her lawyer, said the friend.
Another well-place source confirmed those jaw-dropping dollar amounts.
The buddy confirmed that Tiki, who had been working as a NBC's "Today Show" correspondent, has "parted ways with NBC" on the heels of the scandal. That job paid him an estimated $300,000 annually.
Ginny's rep said the claim of a $150,000- per-month alimony demand "is categorically untrue. That number is completely and utterly ridiculous." The rep added, "She does not even have a nanny.''
The rep also denied the amount purportedly paid Chemtob by Ginny.
The Post exclusively revealed in April how Barber dumped his wife of 11 years for 23-year-old former NBC intern Traci Lynn Johnson.
Now he and Ginny -- who delivered twin girls last month -- have struggled in divorce court to reach a settlement. Some sources said Tiki is trying to "low-ball her" and has cried poverty because of the loss of his "Today" gig.
In response, Tiki's agent Mark Lepselter said, "It's very sad, and it would be better if they settled this as amicably as possible."
http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/broke_tiki...N#ixzz0rpHA3cx6
Chad Jones was in a serious car crash this morning (http://www.wafb.com/Global/story.asp%2012709476)
See Tiki, SD was right.
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 25, 2010, 12:19:49 PM
Chad Jones was in a serious car crash this morning (http://www.wafb.com/Global/story.asp%2012709476)
QuoteSource: Doctors trying to save Chad Jones' leg
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on June 25, 2010 12:36 PM ET
The news regarding Giants safety Chad Jones following his scary car accident on Friday continues to get more sobering.
Per a league source, PFT has learned that doctors are currently working to save Jones' leg. It was previously reported that Jones fractured his left leg, with arteries and nerves exposed.
Jones remains in critical condition. We're sure you will all join us in continuing to wish the best for him and his family.
damn, moral of the story is LSU players have bad luck when driving
It's bad for Barber, the team he quit won a ring the year after, and now he's so busted ass broke he can't even affort his divorce. HA! Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
I'd rather see Shockey suffer myself but whatever
Shockey gots his ring, mutherfargar.
wat?
What I mean is we'd all like to see him suffer but the muthafarger now has a Superbowl ring, and made over 3 mil last year for 48 recepts, 569 yds., and 3 td's. Sad but he's doing really well for himself, a hell of a lot better than Barber.
Shockey got a Superbowl ring with the Giants, too.
the glare from two shiny rings can't overcome the dingy slime of being Jeremy Shockey
dirtbag
Pierce announced his retirement to become an ESPN NFL guy
Damn shame about Chad Jones...any update?
Im farging tired of every g'damn ex-Giant or Cowboy getting a TV gig after their careers are done..
Aikman, Emmit, Irvin, Moose, Jimmy J, Strahan, Pierce..farg them all.
Quote from: hbionic on July 08, 2010, 03:10:57 PM
Damn shame about Chad Jones...any update?
I think I just saw his leg floating up the Hudson.
Quote from: Die-Hard on July 08, 2010, 03:25:00 PM
Im farging tired of every g'damn ex-Giant or Cowboy getting a TV gig after their careers are done..
Aikman, Emmit, Irvin, Moose, Jimmy J, Strahan, Pierce..farg them all.
I can't wait until Donovan becomes the color guy on Sundays. It's gonna be super.
Quote from: rjs246 on July 08, 2010, 03:30:35 PMI can't wait until Donovan becomes the color guy on Sundays. It's gonna be super.
Joe Buck: "Donovan, tell us about a memorable moment about your superbowl experience"
Donovan: "I remember during the superbowl in the locker room during halftime when T.O. gave me a wedgie and pulled my underwear up to my head and then he turned me around and punched me in the neck....everyone was laughing but me. I cried. I went to reach for a towel to wipe my tears and Freddie Mitchel handed me his dirty underwear. I had a skid mark on my forehead no one told me about until the penultimate drive in the huddle. That's why we took so long. I was trying to wipe that shtein from my forehead, but no one would confirm if I had wiped it off completely...well...not until Greg Lewis came and wiped it with his fingers. I threw him a touchdown after that".
(http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/at-first-i-was-like.jpg)
:-D
farg Antonio Pierce....he's another jerk who wanted nothing to do with the media when he was a player, and now he's crawling up ESPN's ass for a job.
Let's not chastise the guy for showing a modicum of intelligence.
You're saying wait until he stumbles over his words on television before chastising him?
I'm saying chastise him for anything you want, but avoiding the sports media is an exercise in brilliance and deserves to be applauded.
I won't even use this as a chance to make fun of MDS. Dave Spadaro is a member of the 'sports media'. Case rested.
Pierce is not avoiding the sports media, he's joining it. What the hell are you talking about?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 08, 2010, 07:55:43 PM
farg Antonio Pierce....he's another jerk who wanted nothing to do with the media when he was a player, and now he's crawling up ESPN's ass for a job.
You want to applaud an attention whore for something he used to do?
No. I want you to shut up, stupid.
You don't know what the hell you want. Go meditate.
Actually, I'm pretty sure I nailed it with my last post.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 08, 2010, 07:55:43 PM
farg Antonio Pierce....he's another jerk who wanted nothing to do with the media
pierce avoided the media when they wanted to ask him what he did with plaxico's gun
Remember when he used the air horn in the locker room when reporters were trying to ask him questions?
I hope someone does that shtein to him.
Giants waive 3rd round pick Chad Jones after accident nearly costs him his leg (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/29/giants-waive-chad-jones/)
Your misleading headlines are ridiculous lol
QuoteThe transaction was made with the intention of placing Jones on the reserve/non-football injury list once he clears waivers.
Facts are facts. The Giants are choosing not to use a roster spot on a one-legged safety. Why would you want to sugarcoat it?
Hakeem Nicks also has a "hyperextended" knee. The skins are the only NFC East team with healthy starting WR's.
Joey Galloway, Malcolm Kelly, Devin Thomas and Santana Moss can be healthy all they want, but they still suck! BURN!
Wrong. Because they all went to Arizona with McNabb and will be Pro Bowlers. Just like Colt Brennan.
Oh thats right!
Hell Week with Five.
Some shaved head neanderthal Giants fan just gave the Jets fag with the fire hat a ration of shtein over the J-E-T-S cheer.
It's times like this I wish I had errands to run like Dio does.
Was in NY all day today. Penn Station around 4pm was hell on Earth. Everywhere crawling with Jets and Giants jerseys. I couldn't have gotten out of there fast enough.
I can understand why you didn't crawl out between their legs. With the kids, you deal with cleaning up enough urine.
Someone just said Eli got his head gashed open in the game. Anyone see it? Did buzzards fly out?
(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0816/ny_u_elimts2_576.jpg)
Ooooh, he leakin.
Call Ambalamps
Jacobs was the clown who is responsible for that fool getting his melon cracked.
He was too close to him and partially knocked it off. Then Calvin Pace finished it off and Jim Leonhard's the one who cut him.
Nice sequence.
bullshtein.
it was die-hard. i saw it clear as day.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 16, 2010, 10:51:13 PM
Jacobs was the clown who is responsible for that fool getting his melon cracked.
He was too close to him and partially knocked it off. Then Calvin Pace finished it off and Jim Leonhard's the one who cut him.
Nice sequence.
actually, it was eli's fault because the play was a run but he checked off to a pass.
(http://a.imageshack.us/img440/5443/clip0016.gif)
last time he got hit like that was Mcdougle's only good play of his career
I like how the camera tracks the helmet instead of the ball.
wtf...
QuoteRoster move to close camp...#NYG have signed former Eagle and 3-time Pro Bowl OL Shawn Andrews...team waived OL Cliff Louis to make room.
they should have made a deal with him to not sign in division, but they're so gutsy
I was golfing at Cape May National when he was drafted.
I have nothing to contribute.
If he plays well is that the end of easy?
He's got to play first in order to play well.
QuoteJason Pierre-Paul can't break contain with Byron Leftwich. The lumbering Leftwich eluded Pierre-Paul in the open field, and there's no excuse for that.
Haha... I have not heard much about Pierre-Paul to make me wish that the Eagles had drafted him instead of Graham. Let's hope the trend continues.
graham certainly looks good but i wouldnt call a preseason tweet by some douchebag in a players rookie year a "trend"
this madness has to stop
It was a Matt Mosley observation. Generally, the observations about Pierre-Paul have been negative all through training camp.
youll forgive me if i have no idea who matt mosely is
ESPN NFC East blogger - started as a Dallas beat guy
but he's not the only one who's been trashing JPP - the guy appears to be Jon Harris redux
PP has talent thru the roof...whether he harnasses that over the next few years and becomes a player remains to be seen....jon harris was a sixth rounder taken in the first
anthony spencer is close to home proof that you may wanna wait a little beyond a players first traning camp before judging
Spencer has always had the rep as a hard worker and technique guy, kind of like Graham. JPP is a "raw" talent and that's about it.
But I am not going to get sucked in like Zanshin did yesterday.
JPP is going to suck seriously shtein-caked donkey dicks. He's awful. Completely awful. And sucks.
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 24, 2010, 09:16:26 AM
Spencer has always had the rep as a hard worker and technique guy, kind of like Graham. JPP is a "raw" talent and that's about it.
But I am not going to get sucked in like Zanshin did yesterday.
talent never succeeds in the nfl....only the matt mccoys of the world become good players...unless of course that talent shows itself by the players second preseason game of his career
you def cant teach technique either..where as coaches gives players talent all the time
Quote from: rjs246 on August 24, 2010, 09:21:51 AM
JPP is going to suck seriously shtein-caked donkey dicks. He's awful. Completely awful. And sucks.
Probably. Giants fans hated the pick and from what I've read he hasn't impressed at camp or in preseason games. Reese is a decent evaluator of talent so there's that, but early signs are he's a bust.
DH...what did you think of the new stadium?
Mixed reaction..the parking situation was a clusterfarg, as usual..i thought with that old piece of shtein finally down though that we'd be in without a problem. That wasnt the case so that sucked, but the stadium itself is pretty sweet. They did it right w the LEDs throughout the outside gates and once I got to my seat and saw how big it was, I realized why they wanted a Super Bowl there..I've never been in a stadium that size, kinda blew me away..
I thought the concourse was kinda drab, but the tables that I put my beer on were just fantastic...till I kicked one.
Quote from: Die-Hard on August 26, 2010, 11:59:41 PMI thought the concourse was kinda drab, but the tables that I put my beer on were just fantastic...till I kicked one.
ha
i don't mind that, i get paid for warranty work that isn't manufacturer error.
QuoteShawn Andrews: Giants "more of a family atmosphere"
Posted by Michael David Smith on August 29, 2010 2:49 PM ET
Last year Shawn Andrews was on the same roster in Philadelphia as his brother, Stacy. But it's this year with the Giants that Andrew says feels like being part of a family.
Andrews played his first game in a Giants uniform Saturday night against the Ravens, and he told Mike Garafolo of the Star-Ledger afterward that he felt like he was in the right place.
"It just felt good to run back out, even though I'm at my new home with the G-Men," Andrews said. "I have to say it feels much more of a family atmosphere than what I'm used to in the past. Just starting with that in the locker room and then running out there, it's an unbelievable feeling."
Andrews had played his entire career with the Eagles before signing with the Giants this month, and he suggested that he's more comfortable with his new team than he ever was in Philadelphia.
"It just feels like home," Andrews said. "And I'm not just saying that to say the right thing. It really does. And I told the offensive line guys that. You can tell everybody is sincere and want to be here and work together. I can't say it's been like that my whole career."
Should not have released him.
How many guys who haven't played in two years do you want them to keep?
lol
For a team with interior OL issues they cut bait way too soon
no
So if he excels in NY you will still believe they should have let him go?
I will. Some players need a change of scenery to play to their ability. Andrews wasn't going to do anything in Philly
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 29, 2010, 03:40:45 PM
lol
For a team with interior OL issues they cut bait way too soon
You ain't kiddin'.
Quote from: Tomahawk on August 29, 2010, 04:11:33 PM
I will. Some players need a change of scenery to play to their ability. Andrews wasn't going to do anything in Philly
He was a pro-bowler. I'm not saying he would have returned to that form, but it looks now like the Eagles should have let him hang around to find out anyway.
You don't save a roster spot for season after season for a guy that might decide he wants to come back. Andrews was done here, and they should have known that before signing his worthless brother.
Jay just can't let go. Especially of black players at "white" positions. Send him to the other cf for a beating!
hilarious how anyone can take anything that mental midget has to say seriously.
Quote from: Tomahawk on August 29, 2010, 04:11:33 PM
I will. Some players need a change of scenery to play to their ability. Andrews wasn't going to do anything in Philly
j doesnt understand this
see myers, brett
his play was never a problem. it was him actually getting out there and doing it. hindsight 20/20 if he does anything this year but his track record says otherwise. the real mistake was signing his brother.
yeah eagle roster sports are so precious with all that talent they are trying to fit on the 53 man roster....theres definitely no room for a potential pro bowler
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 30, 2010, 07:49:46 AM
yeah eagle roster sports are so precious with all that talent they are trying to fit on the 53 man roster....theres definitely no room for a potential pro bowler
Are you serious with this nonsense? You slaughtered him worse than anyone on this board.
Jesus...
:-D
actually i was the only one to defend him by saying he was hurt and not crazy
He was hurt in the back and in the brain. Not a good combo.
I believe I defended him too. Bottom line is they should have kept him.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 30, 2010, 10:23:42 AM
I believe I defended him too. Bottom line is they should have kept him.
Shut up your face hole. (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20100830_Andrews_a_Giant_fraud.html)
They'd still have Trotter if you were in charge.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 30, 2010, 10:23:42 AM
I believe I defended him too. Bottom line is they should have kept him.
You realize he's only played in 50 games in 6 years right? And 2 games since 07?
well you can never have too many crazy, fat pieces of shtein on your bench.
farg that guy and the giants.
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 30, 2010, 10:33:02 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 30, 2010, 10:23:42 AM
I believe I defended him too. Bottom line is they should have kept him.
Shut up your face hole. (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20100830_Andrews_a_Giant_fraud.html)
They'd still have Trotter if you were in charge.
What I meant to say as not only would they keep him, he'd be a player/coach!
As far as Andrews goes, it's not like they're bursting at the seams with talent, as ivy pointed out, so what's the harm in keeping him? Just had to have Greg isdander and zipp Duncan on the roster, right?.
Who is ivy ?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 30, 2010, 11:20:57 AM
What I meant to say as not only would they keep him, he'd be a player/coach!
As far as Andrews goes, it's not like they're bursting at the seams with talent, as ivy pointed out, so what's the harm in keeping him? Just had to have Greg isdander and zipp Duncan on the roster, right?.
And 3 years from now when Zipp Duncan is being signed to clevelands practice squad you'll be lamenting him not being on the eagles anymore.
Shouldnt we wait till andrews proves it was a mistake to let him go before the complaining starts ?
i personally wouldnt have done it but i can understand releasing him...i just laugh at people who say you couldnt keep him because hed take up a roster spot...as if the eagles are bursting at the seams with talent
not to mention he wouldnt cost you a roster spot until he made the team
all this shawn andrews talk really makes me want to get my michael phelps on.
Quote from: Die-Hard on August 30, 2010, 12:15:44 PM
all this shawn andrews talk really makes me want to get my michael phelps on.
holla !
Quote from: Die-Hard on August 30, 2010, 12:15:44 PM
all this shawn andrews talk really makes me want to get my michael phelps on.
Go swimming?
yes, swimming. :evil
Quote from: Die-Hard on August 30, 2010, 12:15:44 PM
all this shawn andrews talk really makes me want to get my michael phelps on.
:-D :-D :-D
I can understand the argument that he might have been worth keeping given the talent currently on staff, but that argument gives too little weight to the fact that a big man with back problems who is sometimes too depressed to work, and who has not in fact worked much at all in two years, is a liability, not an asset.
It was not a mistake to release him, and will not become one should he suddenly return to form for the Giants. He was obviously never going to come back for the Eagles, for whatever reason, so good riddance. Good for him if the kooky bastich finds his football again, but I don't see it happening. He's too mentally soft/unstable and HES A FAT GUY WITH BACK PROBLEMS.
if he comes back to play at a high level its a mistake no matter how you spin it...especially so because he will be doing it to the eagles twice a year
they had a legit reason to release him...they also had a legit reason to keep him....they chose the former...it was a decision they made and one they are accountable for
Chance that Andrews was going to make a comeback for the Eagles: zero.
Go ahead, argue otherwise.
Players the Eagles should have kept:
Shawn Andrews
Donovan McNabb
Michael Westbrook
Jeremiah Trotter
Brian Dawkins
Koy Detmer
Jerome Brown
Mike Ditka
Quote from: Diomedes on August 30, 2010, 05:17:46 PM
Chance that Andrews was going to make a comeback for the Eagles: zero.
Go ahead, argue otherwise.
hed be playing for them right this second if they had not released him...theres really no argument against that...he was going to play for whatever team he happened to be on when healthy
to say he was never going to play for the eagles again is as speculative as it gets and really has no facts to back it up
what you can argue is that he will never stay healthy and thus wasnt worth keeping
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 30, 2010, 05:24:14 PMto say he was never going to play for the eagles again is as speculative as it gets and really has no facts to back it up
what you can argue is that he will never stay healthy and thus wasnt worth keeping
I can argue both and sleep just fine, knowing I'm a better person and football fan than you. Suck it.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 30, 2010, 05:20:45 PM
Players the Eagles should have kept:
Shawn Andrews
Donovan McNabb
Michael Westbrook
Jeremiah Trotter
Brian Dawkins
Koy Detmer
Jerome Brown
Mike Ditka
Don't forget Jerome McDougle, another first-round loser that people cried about when he went to the Giants after most of a decade worth of failure on the Eagles. I expect Andrews' success on the Giants to be similar to McDougle's.
I predict more like Corey Simon for the Colts.
Good call. Unlike McDougle, Andrews knows how to play, and like Simon he's totally unreliable physically and mentally at this stage in his career.
Remember how morbidly fat Simon got?
Yeah I enjoyed the season that he spent on the PUP list without any explanation whatsoever from the Colts, before the "polyarthritis" thing was eventually leaked.
like two people cared about mcdougle leaving and he sucked from day one....hideous analogy
phreak, you, myself, wingspan, and munson (what a horrible collection) are all on record as saying it was a mistake to cut mcdougle in '08. pretty sure phreak still thinks it was a mistake.
Remember this load of farging horseshtein?
Quote"When I came out to LA after my back issue, I had to look coach Reid in the eye and tell him I owe him," Andrews said. "It's bigger than football with me right now. If nothing else, I just wish that I could get just one more season just so I can pay coach Reid and just prove to the fans that I still have it, I still want to be a part of this organization. And for coach Reid sticking by me with my situation in 2008, and I definitely owe the city of Philadelphia so hopefully lord willing, I can get back to 100 percent and get to mashing people again."
I hope that fat motherfarger strokes out dead.
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 30, 2010, 06:08:23 PM
phreak, you, myself, wingspan, and munson (what a horrible collection) are all on record as saying it was a mistake to cut mcdougle in '08. pretty sure phreak still thinks it was a mistake.
i have constantly destroyed mcdougle since the day he was picked...he sucked in college and sucked in the pros...no chance i even remotely cared that he was let go...at best i might have wanted him kept that year over reno mahe or mike gasperson but thats it
Andrews didn't play for two seasons, expected to sit out camp and rest his back, then get plugged in to the starting lineup here. No way the Eagles could have kept him in that situation. Meanwhile, the Giants invested next to nothing in him.
So, yes, he can be a bust/cut for the Eagles and a good player for the Giants... and still not represent any mistake in judgment by the Eagles FO. To argue otherwise is asinine, which is why many of you nimrods are doing just that. The Eagles signed his brother and traded for his college roommate, and he couldn't get in shape to play. Then the Giants sign him and THAT's a FAMILY?!? Hey, farger, the team that traded up to draft your ass says DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE.
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 30, 2010, 06:08:23 PM
phreak, you, myself, wingspan, and munson (what a horrible collection) are all on record as saying it was a mistake to cut mcdougle in '08. pretty sure phreak still thinks it was a mistake.
No, they made the right call. He had a helluva camp that year so I thought he should have been kept.
But the Andrews thing is dumb. They could have held onto him and saw what he had, if anything. If he balls, good. If he's broken down, peace out.
if you have the option of keeping or letting go of guy....you let him go....then he becomes a high quality performer you are at fault...only the biggest homers could possibly not see that
even buddy cutting cris carter...something he is lauded for....was a HOF mistake
So if he does well with the Giants it was an all-time awful move but if he doesn't it was still a bad move because he might have played well with the Eagles?
I see.
if he does really well with the giants its a bad move
if he flames out with the giants then obviously you wouldnt call it a bad move
this isnt difficult stuff people
Quote from: General_Failure on August 30, 2010, 05:20:45 PM
Players the Eagles should have kept:
Shawn Andrews
Donovan McNabb
Michael Westbrook
Jeremiah Trotter
Brian Dawkins
Koy Detmer
Jerome Brown
Mike Ditka
michael westbrook ?
It was a good move because he was a team cancer. He used and abused the team's trust in him. He stole money from them. His teammates couldn't count on him to be there because he had phantom injury issues plus his "depression" drama.
He had to go for no other reason than he used up whatever good will he had with the team. I hope he bombs out on the Giants because he's playing for a hated rival but it is a shame that he punked out on the Eagles because he had unbelievable talent.
the unbelievable talent part is what makes it a bad move if he turns his career around...anytime you give up that kind of talent you run the risk of making a huge mistake
he's not going to turn his career around. the same issues he had in philly he'll have in new york.
probably
I wish you all nothing but excruciating pain for ever and ever, amen.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 31, 2010, 08:39:18 AM
I wish you all nothing but excruciating pain for ever and ever, amen.
you've gotten soft.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81a2e572/article/derailed-by-injuries-depression-andrews-on-road-to-recovery
Pretty good article.
And only strengthens my belief that they shouldn't have cut him.
They pay him $10M in a signing bonus and cut bait on a $175k workout bonus?
Mistake.
You might be the worst Eagles fan ever.
lol at thinking he'll do ANYTHING ever again in his career
with the andrews love and continued mcnabb worshiping im fully convinced j thinks its 2006
My favorite J-ism was at the beginning of last season when he proclaimed Avant would have 80+ catches.
And I justified it the other week as to why I thought that.
And Andrews is going to turn out to be a good player
Quote from: SD on September 01, 2010, 09:38:43 PM
My favorite J-ism was at the beginning of last season when he proclaimed Avant would have 80+ catches.
He would have if it was a 32 game season.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 01, 2010, 09:54:48 PM
And I justified it the other week as to why I thought that.
And Andrews is going to turn out to be a good player
mescaline?
Can you even get that anymore? That went out with thai sticks I thought.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 01, 2010, 09:54:48 PM
And I justified it the other week as to why I thought that.
And Andrews is going to turn out to be a good player
you really think its 2006 dont you
No, I believe that he is going to be good for the Giants and they should not have released him.
what possible evidence is there to suggest an injury prone crazy person is all of a sudden going to reclaim his pro bowl form of 5 years ago
you seem to have a tough time letting go of things...or admitting that certain players arent as good or as useful as they once were. i can help you with this problem, if you should so desire.
andrews played in a pro bowl 24 months ago...then got hurt
hes not going to start opening day for the giants and play like an all pro....but why is it so hard to believe that by the end of the season he could be playing at a pretty high level
jesus does it hurt that much to acknowledge that an ex eagle might be a decent player
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 02, 2010, 07:15:18 AM....but why is it so hard to believe that by the end of the season he could be playing at a pretty high level
he's a big man with serious back problems
he's batshtein crazy
that about sums it up
hes not crazy (thats a defense mechanism for eagle fans to make themselves feel better about not having him)
his back could hold up*
* - it also could explode but to only look at the injury from one direction that the ONLY possibility is for him to be hurt again reeks of lil guy type homerism
he is crazy. arguing otherwise is an attack mechanism used by hungry hungry hippos for the purpose of drawing attention to themselves
how many big men you ever heard of lose two years of play to back problems and return to form? it doesn't happen.
what proof is there that he is crazy....or any more crazy than a million other athletes/celebrities any of us can name that do their job and do it well
honestly i cant name a single big guy ever thats missed two years with back problems period
trust me the world wont end if shawn andrews plays well for the giants nor will it end if you admit to the possibility of it
I'm scared. Hold me.
of course there is a possibility of it. anything is possible.
it's not likely and it's going to be awesome to watch this mental midget fail.
Quote from: SunMo on September 01, 2010, 08:54:12 PM
lol at thinking he'll do ANYTHING ever again in his career
Quote from: SunMo on September 02, 2010, 08:13:03 AM
of course there is a possibility of it. anything is possible.
you are still scared but at least you are coming around to the possibility of it...more than i can say for the rest of the homers
well you're arguing semantics with the word possibility.
like i said, anything is possible. but this is low on the possibility scale.
it is my full belief that he will do just enough to get to the big money in his contract next year and then he'll magically get hurt again.
@ Dipshteins
You're wrong. The FACT is that the Eagles made the right decision. "The Big Kid" was not going to be ok riding the pine, and he was not going to be ready to start for the Eagles. After two years of waiting for him to get better, it was time to cut bait. Could he resurrect his career in New Jersey? Maybe, but it wouldn't prove anything about his time in Philly one way or another.
Were the Rays wrong to let Josh Hamilton go in the Rule 5 draft? No, not based on all the problems he had. But one team's trash is often another team's treasure. You're so hell bent on finding something to whine about that you are seriously trying to make an argument for the Eagles keeping Shawn Andrews on the roster for a third year in a row. He was done here. And he's probably done for good. Why is that so hard to understand?
yeah no chance he wouldnt start over road graters max jean gillies brother andrews nik cole mike mcglynn and todd herremans (who seems as injury prone as the big kid these days)...and even if he did get hurt again you are in the same place you are now with a horrendous offensive line
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 02, 2010, 08:28:13 AM
Were the Rays wrong to let Josh Hamilton go in the Rule 5 draft?
big picture of course it was a mistake...it would have cost them the price of rehab to keep him and to let him go it cost them an all star player
of course it couldnt be more apples and oranges btwn a heroin addict who never played before in an organization loaded with good young prospects and a former all nfl lineman with a bad back on a team with no offensive line
im not even in j's camp that says it was a no brainer mistake...ive said several times they had valid reasons to let him go...but the other camp that says he will NEVER play again and they HAD to let him go is much worse
He's not crazy?
WTF? Dude is about 16 sandwiches short of a picnic.
Have you read the shtein that comes from his mouth? Its batshtein craziness.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 02, 2010, 09:09:51 AM
Have you read the shtein that comes from his mouth? Its batshtein craziness.
like what?
ricky watters was "crazy"
the 93 phillies were "crazy"
buddy ryan was "crazy"
TO is "crazy"
broad street bullies were "crazy"
ill take them all over "normal" people like donovan mcnabb or eric lindros
Oh my god who farging cares please shut up please shut up please shut up.
I don't think Andrews washes out.....at least not right away, but it is unlikely that he'll return to probowl form. That said, he could be an above average player for a couple of years until his back completely goes on him, which is best case scenario for him. As for him being batshtein crazy....that's pretty much what you want in a lineman.
Having said that, and I'm not one to defend Reid or the front office very often, but they completely went out of their way to make him comfortable and they kept him around for 2 farging years and paid him quite handsomely during the process and got absolutely nothing in return from him. And for him to come out and say that it wasn't a comfortable or "family" atmosphere is not only a slap in the face to Reid and Co, but it's also a flat out lie. If Andrews gave Reid even the slightest indication that he was committed to playing this year and might actually be able to get his fat ass back on the field, there's no way that they would have released him because they not only had time and money directly invested in him, but they also invested in his brother and roommate in an attempt to make him happy. In this case, the Eagles absolutely went out of their way and did just about everything they could to make this guy successful and he pretty much pissed all over them.
I've kind of grown out of the whole "I'm going to begrudge and hate on a player for shunning my favorite team" thing but in this case, I'll make an exception. Farg this guy. I hope he fails miserably.
Jason Peters played in the pro-bowl last year. Stop talking about the pro-bowl as if it means anything.
PSN....The reason the Batshtein crazy is an important fact here is not because he's a lineman but because his farging empty head has caused major issues on and off the field for him. He hasn't been able to get back out there as a Pro-bowler because he's a farging mental case.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 02, 2010, 09:28:17 AM
Jason Peters played in the pro-bowl last year. Stop talking about the pro-bowl as if it means anything.
big kid wasnt just pro bowl he was all nfl
additionally you can be in the probowl
and be a great player
You can also be a whackjob 340-pounder with nasal pollups and two years of no game-experience who plays on a rival team.
This conversation is retarded.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 02, 2010, 09:29:47 AM
PSN....The reason the Batshtein crazy is an important fact here is not because he's a lineman but because his farging empty head has caused major issues on and off the field for him. He hasn't been able to get back out there as a Pro-bowler because he's a farging mental case.
Thanks. I haven't been around for the last 2 years and didn't realize that.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 02, 2010, 10:05:53 AM
This conversation is retarded.
And now you are part of it.
Let's talk about flipflops.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 02, 2010, 10:11:50 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 02, 2010, 09:29:47 AM
PSN....The reason the Batshtein crazy is an important fact here is not because he's a lineman but because his farging empty head has caused major issues on and off the field for him. He hasn't been able to get back out there as a Pro-bowler because he's a farging mental case.
Thanks. I haven't been around for the last 2 years and didn't realize that.
So why the comment about wanting an olineman to be a whackjob? Sure, if its not going to destroy his career.
I like to take this moment to point out he was also named to the Philadelphia Eagles 75th Anniversary Team.
:-D
:boom
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 02, 2010, 10:52:05 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 02, 2010, 10:11:50 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 02, 2010, 09:29:47 AM
PSN....The reason the Batshtein crazy is an important fact here is not because he's a lineman but because his farging empty head has caused major issues on and off the field for him. He hasn't been able to get back out there as a Pro-bowler because he's a farging mental case.
Thanks. I haven't been around for the last 2 years and didn't realize that.
So why the comment about wanting an olineman to be a whackjob? Sure, if its not going to destroy his career.
Because you gotta have a little crazy in you to play on the o-line to begin with. The crazier, the better.
Quote from: paco on September 02, 2010, 10:55:01 AM
I like to take this moment to point out he was also named to the Philadelphia Eagles 75th Anniversary Team.
:-D
:boom
The Eagles don't really have a long lineage of great offensive lineman. When healthy, he really was that good. And even his brief stint with the Eagles was good enough to put him among the best in franchise history.
He was good before. Now we wish death upon him. Why is this so hard for people to comprehend?
because some people like conjuring up fantasies about people being "homers" and when you are filled head to toe with hate in your body you must let it out on people who are you happier than you, even though you have no business being so negative considering your 6 figure salary and completely pointless, non-time consuming job. what.
facepalm
Quote from: KDS on September 02, 2010, 12:53:44 PM
because some people like conjuring up fantasies about people being "homers" and when you are filled head to toe with hate in your body you must let it out on people who are you happier than you, even though you have no business being so negative considering your 6 figure salary and completely pointless, non-time consuming job. what.
well you are straight up homertastic
most of the rest of the people here cant face the possibility of an ex eagle possibly doing well
lets call it having a bad case of the easles
Quote from: Diomedes on September 02, 2010, 07:32:46 AM
he is crazy. arguing otherwise is an attack mechanism used by hungry hungry hippos for the purpose of drawing attention to themselves
how many big men you ever heard of lose two years of play to back problems and return to form? it doesn't happen.
Kyle Turley? for a year i think, then he fell apart again
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 02, 2010, 01:20:54 PM
Quote from: KDS on September 02, 2010, 12:53:44 PM
because some people like conjuring up fantasies about people being "homers" and when you are filled head to toe with hate in your body you must let it out on people who are you happier than you, even though you have no business being so negative considering your 6 figure salary and completely pointless, non-time consuming job. what.
well you are straight up homertastic
most of the rest of the people here cant face the possibility of an ex eagle possibly doing well
lets call it having a bad case of the easles
not even close and you know it
hes a crazy fat injury prone walking sob story. he aint gonna do anything for the giants. if im wrong on that im wrong on that (never out of the question) but there is little doubt all this kvetching about keeping him or letting him go is going to as big as waste of time as andre iguodalas career.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 02, 2010, 01:30:12 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 02, 2010, 07:32:46 AM
he is crazy. arguing otherwise is an attack mechanism used by hungry hungry hippos for the purpose of drawing attention to themselves
how many big men you ever heard of lose two years of play to back problems and return to form? it doesn't happen.
Kyle Turley? for a year i think, then he fell apart again
John Welbourn came first to my mind. But then there were the steroids, and all that. So I left his name out.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 02, 2010, 11:44:49 AM
Because you gotta have a little crazy in you to play on the o-line to begin with. The crazier, the better.
i agree but crazy in a i'm gonna rip this mother farger's head off kind of way, not the i'm going to paint my testicles orange and rub syrup on my tits crazy.
Quote from: phattymatty on September 02, 2010, 03:08:43 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 02, 2010, 11:44:49 AM
Because you gotta have a little crazy in you to play on the o-line to begin with. The crazier, the better.
i agree but crazy in a i'm gonna rip this mother farger's head off kind of way, not the i'm going to paint my testicles orange and rub syrup on my tits crazy.
omg :-D :-D
@mortreport
QuoteIf Shawn Andrews keeps playing like his former Pro Bowl self, combo of him & Chrs Snee at guards will be a one key reason Giants contend.
i guess mort didnt get the andrews is too crazy to play mass fax
lol @ rating anything that goes on in preseason.
jesus...
Saw him on a FG attempt
Looked like he went down.
Maybe it wasn't him...looks like they have another 73.
Quote from: Rome on September 02, 2010, 08:53:46 PM
lol @ rating anything that goes on in preseason....unless its a he will never play football again prediction that benefits the eagles
QuoteJeff_McLane
Thanks, Zach! @ZBerm Readers of @Jeff_McLane might be interested in the fact that Shawn Andrews is having an impressive game for the Giants
Definitely a huge mistake to let him go. Hugey hugeapoo.
Haha
@bobfordsports
QuoteSomeone said Shawn Andrews having a good game for the Giants. What does that mean? He didn't have a breakdown on the field?
If he even manages just to stay injury free in preseason, with the state the Eagles o-line is in now, how can anyone think it wasn't a mistake to let him go? Even if they kept him and he crapped out, at least they would have given themselves the chance of having a half decent line. Paying him millions to do nothing and then not seeing if he could still play after his surgery was a bad move.
oh my god let it go.
jesus...
yea lodge going old ass republican stubborn MAers dont let shtein go
Quote from: KDS on September 05, 2010, 01:50:37 PM
yea lodge going old ass republican stubborn MAers dont let shtein go
YES!
Quote from: Rome on September 05, 2010, 01:13:30 PM
oh my god let it go.
jesus...
Never, NEVER I say!
Shawn "The Big farg" Andrews is now the backup left tackle.
Still probably better than any of the slop the eagles are throwing out there.
go colts
Go good Manning
Eli makes me sick..he's such a farging dork.
Well this is looking like a 3-way tie in the NFC East. Hooray for the AFC South and their superior football talents.
LOL at that fan not giving back the helmet hahahaa
Nothing makes me happier than having all three NFC East teams lose while the Eagles win. Esp when the Cowboys, the pre-season SB champs, start 0-2.
even tho donovan lost?
Only two games I want Donovan to win are against the Cowboys. He is 1 for 1 in that dept.
EDIT: Actually make that 4. Sweep the Giants too so I can talk shtein to my coworkers. I work with 5 die-hard Giants fans.
no chance anyone believes you
i havent seen a bigger donovan fan since wilma
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 19, 2010, 10:55:29 PM
no chance anyone believes you
i havent seen a bigger donovan fan since wilma Jay
tru dat
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 19, 2010, 10:55:29 PM
no chance anyone believes you
i havent seen a bigger donovan fan since wilma
Oh no what will I do now? IGY doesn't believe me. Shocker and completely new for posters on this board.
You wouldn't believe him if he did it.
Giants back within 24 with 90 seconds left. We got a close one!
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 19, 2010, 10:58:22 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 19, 2010, 10:55:29 PM
no chance anyone believes you
i havent seen a bigger donovan fan since wilma Jay
lol
Anyone have a black authentic 5 jersey they wanna sell me?
rare words when talking about donovan: "authentic", "black"
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 20, 2010, 05:56:07 AM
rare words when talking about donovan: "authentic", "black"
Well-played.
How Kenny Phillips wasnt knocked out i dont know, because he was stumbling when he got up like bradley, they just had someone to hold him up
supposedly Jacobs wants to be traded
DO NOT WANT
never seen a player go from dominating, scary, and requiring 2-3 guys to bring him down to mediocre as fast as jacobs.
Is he any worse than Mike Bell?
Quote from: General_Failure on September 20, 2010, 01:39:11 PM
Is he any worse than Mike Bell?
Bell was never dominant cept for whenever the Saints played the Eagles.
Just two seasons ago Jacobs was impossible to bring down.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 20, 2010, 01:33:53 PM
never seen a player go from dominating, scary, and requiring 2-3 guys to bring him down to mediocre as fast as jacobs.
I've known from day one he would tank sooner than later. Unless you are a truly special player, you cannot survive at RB in the NFL in a frame that size. Any two bit back bench good for nothing NFL backup safety can lay into you with no effort...you're just too big. Tiki and LT and Westbrook have a decided advantage as far as long term chances for survival because they can make it hard for a guy to put a hit on, just turn a shoulder, duck a bit, etc. Jacobs cannot do that.
He'll never put up the numbers he did two years ago every again. He's not young enough to shake all the damage, he's not as fast as he once was, etc.
Did anyone see that pass by Eli??? Another great redzone turnover.
Yeah he looks nice and zesty today.
Come on Titans.
That helmet he wears make him look like a bigger goober than normal too,
whats up w bullucks facemask..he may as well cover his face with a big piece of tin
(http://www.ctpost.com/mediaManager/?controllerName=image&action-get&id=280497&width=628&height=471)
watching eli loft that left handed pass loaf of bread style into triple coverage in the endzone was amazing.
3rd down, Giants backed up in side their own 1 yd line and Sheli airs one out and hits Manningham 40 yards down field. Penalty, chop block on Bradshaw in the endzone, safety. lolololololololololololol
my man kenny britt is the truth
Every time Vince Young throws a TD, rjs dies a little inside.
Hey, a safety for Bradshaw and now a fumble. Time to throw the helmet into the stands yet?
Coughlin just yanked Kareem McKenzie after a personal foul. New RT?
You guessed it. The big kid.
I actually guessed Brad Benson.
"@IMONLYHUMAN73: Most people call this love making weather. I say Burger making weather, but who asked me!! SMH"
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 28, 2010, 04:22:37 PM
"@IMONLYHUMAN73: Most people call this love making weather. I say Burger making weather, but who asked me!! SMH"
die
Shawn Andrews twitter is better than any of the Eagles' players.
you are really creepy
I'm not disagreeing but not sure how that really applies here.
you are following people on twitter relentlessly and sharing it with everyone as if we care/have the same interest in meandering in other peoples uninteresting lives
So you don't want to know that a "heafer" (sic) hit his truck with a shopping cart not long after that?
What's the Wire?
From mortensen:
QuoteFiled to ESPN: Giants DE Matthias Kiwanuka ruled out for Bears game with a bulging cervical disk.
QuoteAwaiting more info, but one source said Kiwanuka's neck injury happened today. That's a big injury for the Giants. Now what's the duration?
No worries, Shawn Andrews can step in and play DE.
Giants might have the worst Oline in the division, which is quite an achievement
I picked against them this week.
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 01, 2010, 05:18:44 PM
Giants might have the worst Oline in the division, which is quite an achievement
amazing what can happen in a month
they look like the clear front-runner to me in the NFC now. they are top 5 in the NFL in almost every statistical category (rushing, passing, defense).
theres def no clear anything in the nfc...as for the giants they certainly look impressive right now but i wanna see eli throw the ball in the northeast november and december winds before i believe in them
I hear what youre saying based off years past, but this can be said for any qb in Nov and Dec no? I mean.. it not like he has this pansy arm where he cant get the ball down field.
it seems as though they have a much more functional offense with the intermediate and underneath routes this year. Not to mention with the huge improvements of nicks and manningham to get open where they dont have to take all these long shots down the field for 3rd and long situations for the wind to be a big factor..but we'll see.
The Giants beat three shtein teams (Carolina, Detroit, Dallas without Romo), one shtein team masquerading as a mediocre team (Bears), and one mediocre team (Texans). They got crushed by the Titans and Colts.
Don't really see how they are any different than the Eagles or any other mediocre NFC team.
I'm not going off the teams they beat or lost to in the beginning of the season because teams start really hitting their stride at just about this time.
Eli Manning just seems like a different qb to me running this offense. You can almost see him emulating his brother at the line of scrimmage, calling out more reads, etc. and really controlling the flow of the offense. Their pass d seems much stronger, power running game is on point and we know what the d-line can do. Unless last nights game was a fluke, I actually see a big difference from the Eagles right now.
they are better than the eagles but certainly not by a lot....i reserve the right to change my opinion when the giants blow them out
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 01, 2010, 05:18:44 PM
Giants might have the worst Oline in the division, which is quite an achievement
That was prior to them playing Andrews more frequently. The biggest mistake of the Reid/Banner years might be giving up on Andrews at EXACTLY the wrong time.
Thank you for your contribution, lurking weirdo. Please feel free to browse the Asian Porn thread.
lurking weirdo is Shawn Andrews. farg your brother
I'm envisioning an "Ask Shawn Andrews" section in the near future
Seriously, the only thing he knows anything about or cares about is food.
Isn't he also a part-time rapper?
I bad-rapped the front office like the rest of the posts on this site and I was still attacked. What was my faux pas?
Quote from: lurking wierdo on October 27, 2010, 06:30:03 PMI bad-rapped the front office like the rest of the posts on this site and I was still attacked. What was my faux pas?
if you post you will be ridiculed
if you read, you'll see that's true for everyone
now kill yourself
Quote from: Diomedes on October 27, 2010, 06:56:31 PM
if you post you will be ridiculed
if you read, you'll see that's true for everyone
now kill yourself
This is basically the :CF handbook.
He misspelled "wierdo" in his s/n.
Welcome to CF.
Wanna buy a Shawn Andrews jersey? I have one for sale
Me too, and mine is black. Very stylish.
As is mine.
Authentic and worn once.
Wanna 'nother one, GF?!
Mine is also authentic, but worn often. And no, I would not like another one.
:-[
maybe they'll get a good player with that # and we can change the name plate
Farg that, they'd better get another good player named Andrews, and then give him that number.
maybe you could stop playing dress up in public
In public? I wear it at home, and on those rare occasions when I go to a game. I guess that counts as public.
Quote from: Diomedes on October 27, 2010, 08:40:13 PM
maybe you could stop playing dress up in public
Shut up.
people who buy offensive linemens jerseys should be shot
Quote from: MDS on October 27, 2010, 09:23:26 PM
people who buy offensive linemens jerseys should be shot
The best teams have the best o-lines. That is a constant in all levels of football.
stop it reese
you all get rid of your Andrews jerseys and you'll be sorry when he goes into the hof.
Quote from: MDS on October 27, 2010, 09:23:26 PM
people who buy offensive linemens jerseys do so because buying a XXL Westbrook jersey is kinda dumb
(http://www.theterminatorfans.com/multimedia/t1cp/KyleReese.png)
Quote from: lurking wierdo on October 27, 2010, 09:45:14 PM
Quote from: MDS on October 27, 2010, 09:36:35 PM
stop it reese
Who's Reese? I am now confused.
MDS is a tinfoil hat kind of guy where new blood around here is always someone else in his mind.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 27, 2010, 09:57:03 PM
Quote from: lurking wierdo on October 27, 2010, 09:45:14 PM
Quote from: MDS on October 27, 2010, 09:36:35 PM
stop it reese
Who's Reese? I am now confused.
MDS is a tinfoil hat kind of guy where new blood around here is always someone else in his mind.
i cant understand how anyone could find this place. you have to click on some random combination of buttons and actually find a .info just to find the board.
i submit that until proven otherwise all newbies are reincarnations of old, retarded posters. though i would like to be wrong because the first thing this place needs is more people to drown out the likes of munson, reese, cole, shore, etc.
I can't imagine Reese coming back under a different name, especially something like lurking wierdo.
its not reese but it might be his autistic twin brother
stillupfront?
possible
I picked up this laptop on ebay. When I downloaded Chrome, there was already a history. This site was on there. It is just serendipity that I happen to be an Eagles fan.
Stillupfront's old laptop?
Some guy named Keith in Conshohocken (sp?).
wingspan?
He hasnt been here in forever
mds calling me out again...unreal. shtein never stops around here
Quote from: lurking wierdo on October 27, 2010, 10:30:55 PM
Some guy named Keith in Conshohocken (sp?).
Any pin numbers? Good Asian porn?
There were some addresses for some man on man sites. Haven't found any pins though.
I was not wrong about Andrews.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-york-giants/09000d5d81b7a7d3/Bradshaw-brings-it (http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-york-giants/09000d5d81b7a7d3/Bradshaw-brings-it)
the board knows he can block kiddo. the whole point was he could never make it on the field and was wasting dollars and space in philadelphia.
But he is now on the field. It just seems that no one considered the fact that he had an injured back and the first surgery wasn't successful.
put the lotion away. he's a back-up.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/25/sports/football/25giants.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/25/sports/football/25giants.html)
Kiwanuka is done for the year
QuoteThe Giants are 5-2 despite a minus-5 turnover differential, despite a league-leading 21 giveaways. They committed five turnovers Monday night against the Cowboys and still managed to win. It was their first win in a game in which they had a turnover differential of minus-3 or worse since December 2007.
Are they that good or is the NFC that bad?
I miss him.
"@IMShawnAndrews: If u hungry & u know it clap your hands *Clap* *Clap* If ur happy & u know it & your tummy just disclosed it if u #Hungry&UknowitClapYoHands"
my favorite one was the one where he said he was leaving food on his plate, then 10 minutes later he said his stomach was killing him from all the junk he ate
i think the giants have demonstrated that they are better than the seahawks
and better than the nfc
by a lot
at least for right now
before you get all sticky in the pants over the giants, heres who've they beaten:
carolina, chicago, @houston, detroit, @dallas, @seattle
not exactly an impressive list there
Yeah but they pretty much manhandled all those teams. There defense is much better than it was before. The Eagles have owned them lately, but that doesn't mean sthein.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on November 08, 2010, 12:29:53 PM
Yeah but they pretty much manhandled all those teams. There defense is much better than it was before. The Eagles have owned them lately, but that doesn't mean sthein.
Not really, and Seattle was playing with a rookie QB yesterday. I'm not trying to discredit the Giants - because they are a good team - but they haven't beaten anyone:
Sun 9/12 Carolina Panthers Carolina (0-0) W 31 - 18
Sun 9/19 Indianapolis Colts at Indianapolis (0-1) L 14 - 38
Sun 9/26 Tennessee Titans Tennessee (1-1) L 10 - 29
Sun 10/3 Chicago Bears Chicago (3-0) W 17 - 3
Sun 10/10 Houston Texans at Houston (3-1) W 34 - 10
Sun 10/17 Detroit Lions Detroit (1-4) W 28 - 20
Mon 10/25 Dallas Cowboys at Dallas (1-4) W 41 - 35
Bye
Sun 11/7 Seattle Seahawks at Seattle (4-3) W 41 - 7
Houston and Chicago are by far, their 2 best wins. And neither one of those teams are world beaters. Still, they've scored 82 points in their last 2 games and haven't scored less than 28 in a game since Chicago (5 games, all wins). No matter how "soft" their schedule is, there's still something to be said for finding the end zone 4+ times a game for 4 straight games.
The match up that worries me is Nicks versus this secondary.
indeed the only two times the giants have played an afc team with a winning record they lost by 19 at home and 24 on the road
if the nfl was cfb the giants are basically the boise state of the league
.........if boise state lost to virginia tech by three touchdowns
all im saying is they are def the best team in the nfc right now
Dook on ESPN ranked the Falcons higher than the Giants. I didn't get it either
who's dook... and where were the eagles because they just kicked the shtein out of the falcons? curious.
Don't know who it was....tv at lunch destination had ESPN HD on. He only ranked the top 5 and Eagles didn't make the cut though they were part of the 10 team pool to select from
5. Giants
4. Falcons
3. Patriots
2. Ravens
1. Steelers
we will find out some things about the falcons over the next few weeks as they have baltimore and green bay coming up
they did win at new orleans but im not sure we will have a complete picture of them until the playoffs because their road schedule is a complete joke...then again if they get home field thruout it wont matter
i give the giants the edge now because as sarge said the numbers they are putting up are hard to ignore even if they arent beating anyone
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 09, 2010, 01:23:08 PM
Don't know who it was....tv at lunch destination had ESPN HD on. He only ranked the top 5 and Eagles didn't make the cut though they were part of the 10 team pool to select from
5. Giants
4. Falcons
3. Patriots
2. farg I forgot
1. Steelers
the ravens are the only possible team that could be 2
Correct! Thank you
ESPN has the Falcons ahead of the Giants also. (http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings/_/year/2010/week/10)
Dave Meggett gets 30 years in prison (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5789655)
A couple somewhat shocking revelations from that story.
1. I didn't realize Meggett had that many sexual assault/battery incidents (allegedly).
2. 1700 yards rushing over a 10 year career? I know he was primarily used as a return man, but it seems like he should have had a lot more than 1700 yds for his career.
I remember him as a Patriot. wasn't he mainly used in a Kevin Faulk role? Maybe got like 2 or3 carries a game but would catch a shteinton?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 10, 2010, 10:54:31 PM
1. I didn't realize Meggett had that many sexual assault/battery incidents (allegedly).
He was awesome in Tecmo. Real high rating in ball control. Apparently he didn't have a lot of ball control in real life though.
Quote from: Munson on November 10, 2010, 11:02:28 PM
I remember him as a Patriot. wasn't he mainly used in a Kevin Faulk role? Maybe got like 2 or3 carries a game but would catch a shteinton?
I definitely remember him as a Giant, but I do remember him with the Pats too. He basically followed Parcells from NYG to NE to NYJ. Like QB said, he was awesome in Tecmo so maybe that's why I was taken back from his paltry rushing numbers.
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 10, 2010, 11:05:50 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 10, 2010, 10:54:31 PM
1. I didn't realize Meggett had that many sexual assault/battery incidents (allegedly).
He was awesome in Tecmo. Real high rating in ball control. Apparently he didn't have a lot of ball control in real life though.
him and ottis anderson were sick
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/17/shawn-andrews-suffers-a-setback/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/17/shawn-andrews-suffers-a-setback/)
Must have been getting his Michael Phelps on too much.
I'm shocked. Shocked!
i wouldnt wanna be a giant (fan or player) in the linc sunday night either...expect him back at full strength monday morning
shtein gawn be crazeeee up in that piece!!
He couldn't have picked a better time. Giants fan friend of mine said he'd been pancaking guys left and right.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 17, 2010, 04:08:51 PM
i wouldnt wanna be a giant (fan or player) in the linc sunday night either...expect him back at full strength monday morning
shtein gawn be crazeeee up in that piece!!
I don't think I have ever seen you this giddy about a game here on :CF.
Don't jump to conclusions, meanies!
"@IMShawnAndrews: Its soo amazing how people like to be the 1st to tell something that they don't know about... GOD Bless All. The Unjust as well as the just!"
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 17, 2010, 05:14:56 PM
Don't jump to conclusions, meanies!
"@IMShawnAndrews: Its soo amazing how people like to be the 1st to tell something that they don't know about... GOD Bless All. The Unjust as well as the just!"
I'll tell you something that I do know about... that looney toon missed his second straight practice today.
The Giants farging suck.
Nicks is out at least 3 weeks with a "lower leg" injury
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 17, 2010, 05:14:56 PM
Don't jump to conclusions, meanies!
"@IMShawnAndrews: Its soo amazing how people like to be the 1st to tell something that they don't know about... GOD Bless All. The Unjust as well as the just!"
sounds like he's still fighting to keep it together
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 22, 2010, 04:13:01 PM
Nicks is out at least 3 weeks with a "lower leg" injury
He just had this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasciotomy) done yesterday. Gross.
QuoteEagles guard Todd Herremans was called for two penalties against the Giants. In one, he dove at the back of Canty's leg. In the other, Canty was engaged and Herremans dove at his knees.
"Two of them. Same guy," Canty said. "That kind of behavior, it's either taught or it's allowed," Canty told Mike Garafolo of the Newark Star-Ledger. "Either way, it has no place in our game."
He's right, they were dirty hits and there's no way Herremans should have done that. He should have poked Canty in his good eye so he wouldn't take any penalties. I don't remember Herremans playing that dirty before, Canty must have done something to provoke him.
As far as chop blocks go, that wasn't a bad one.
Quote from: MMH on November 24, 2010, 06:47:48 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 22, 2010, 04:13:01 PM
Nicks is out at least 3 weeks with a "lower leg" injury
He just had this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasciotomy) done yesterday. Gross.
Thanks for the link, my life is now worse.
:CF : guaranteed to take you lower
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 24, 2010, 11:09:13 AM
Quote from: MMH on November 24, 2010, 06:47:48 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 22, 2010, 04:13:01 PM
Nicks is out at least 3 weeks with a "lower leg" injury
He just had this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasciotomy) done yesterday. Gross.
Thanks for the link, my life is now worse.
Yeah, I don't know if losing the leg would be better or worse.
Shawn Andrews released from sore back ward at mental hospital. Go Giants!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81c736ee/article/giants-ot-andrews-released-from-hospital-after-back-problems?module=HP_headlines
Ah, the Chevy Chase wing.
Anyone a bigger McNabb fan than I am this week? GO SKINS!
(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0111/nfl_a_mcnabb01_400.jpg)
Quote8. The Giants have found another pass-rusher. From Michael Strahan to Osi Umenyiora to Justin Tuck, the Giants have a knack for drafting pass-rushers. It looks like they have found one again for the key stretch run that will determine the winner of the NFC East. Last April, the Giants used their first-round pick on former South Florida defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul. Some questioned the pick, but Pierre-Paul is answering those questions. In the Giants' past two games, Pierre-Paul has four sacks, two forced fumbles, one fumble recovery and multiple tipped passes at the line of scrimmage. "He's starting to really play well," said Giants coach Tom Coughlin. Just in time, too.
Ugh.
dook is gonna be an animal....i wanted him bad in the draft
i also picked him up two weeks ago in fantasy
I wish the Eagles would emulate the Giants draft strategy of picking tall athletic rangy LB/DEs rather than short quick guys who can't shed blocks.
always take talent over all else....im not saying you take a 3rd round grade because hes more athletic than a first rounder but when two guys are similarly rated as graham and pp were why wouldnt you always take the supreme talent?
for the record i do like graham and i think he ends up being a good player...but id rather have pp's ceiling
Their plane was diverted to KC because of the blizzard in Minneapolis.
Wonder when/if they will make it up there...and how.
maybe somewhere over MA instead of the day the music died they will pull a the day the giants died
So bye, bye Misses Manning, Sheli....
blizzard? its 85 and sunny today. minor geographical win!
They're staying the night in KC.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 10, 2010, 02:43:42 PM
always take talent over all else....im not saying you take a 3rd round grade because hes more athletic than a first rounder but when two guys are similarly rated as graham and pp were why wouldnt you always take the supreme talent?
for the record i do like graham and i think he ends up being a good player...but id rather have pp's ceiling
Completely agree.
This is what's angered me over Andy's tenure more than anything else. Up until the last few years (with Pimp, Maclin, Shady, etc)... he's ALWAYS gone after the "motor" guys, or character guys instead of the more athletic option. It's one of the reasons the D is so damn bland now for the most part.
preach on pastor!!
Judd Zulgad, Vikes beat guy, reporting that the game has been moved to Monday Night.
Jesus sent the blizzard to help His Favreness heal.
get your short on...short on...short on...get your short weeeeeeek on!!!!!!!!
lol
interesting to see how the tv deal shakes out. guesses are espn wants the game to be at 4, leading into regular mnf. but its fox's game....hopefully one way or another it goes on national tv
i thought games could only be moved before 12 days prior?
From what I've seen at this point the game will start at 8:00 (EST) and be shown only in New York and Minneapolis. No word yet if Direct TV will be allowed to show the game.
oh duh....i have tunnel vision (and im hammered) and was thinking about eagles giants...who cares when giants minny starts as long as its closer to next sunday
Quote from: Gene on December 11, 2010, 11:32:21 PM
From what I've seen at this point the game will start at 8:00 (EST) and be shown only in New York and Minneapolis. No word yet if Direct TV will be allowed to show the game.
this makes sense, unfortunately, and plays in line to what the nfl did when miami had to move up games because of weather. those games were not on the package and neither will this be.
Gene...how the hell have ya been?
Holy shtein the Metrodome's roof just collapsed...I guess they'll have to move this game to Jersey now.
It's ok... it'll still be a Vikings "home" game...
I'm fine Phreak.......still lurking about.
If anybody gives a fat rats ass it looks as if the game will be broadcast on Direct TV if played Monday night.
Does anybody know what the rule is if the game can't be played Monday night? I have to believe the League has some sort of Plan B for these types of situations.
The game will be played, either at an alternate location in the Minneapolis area or in the Meadowlands or on Tuesday in the Metrodome.
apparently it would be played at the gophers new stadium but the giants didnt pack their long johns
ESPN says that the league is also considering Ford Field. That seems like a (somewhat) reasonable fall-back location.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on December 12, 2010, 11:29:26 AM
ESPN says that the league is also considering Ford Field. That seems like a (somewhat) reasonable fall-back location.
If it's not going to be in Minny or the Meadowlands, it pretty much doesn't matter where they have it. Ford Field might as well be San Diego, it's like a 12 hour drive from Minneapolis even when there isn't a blizzard.
I think they should have it in Philly.
Ford Field
7:20 ET
Monday Night
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg611/scaled.php?tn=0&server=611&filename=zp1t.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
Gallery (http://1500espn.com/gallery/metrodome_collapses/viewall)
WILL be on the ticket, which i guess is due to the uproar the nfl would face if they took a giants game off the dish with all the transplants they have
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 12, 2010, 11:39:14 AM
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on December 12, 2010, 11:29:26 AM
ESPN says that the league is also considering Ford Field. That seems like a (somewhat) reasonable fall-back location.
If it's not going to be in Minny or the Meadowlands, it pretty much doesn't matter where they have it. Ford Field might as well be San Diego, it's like a 12 hour drive from Minneapolis even when there isn't a blizzard.
I don't think this will be a bus ride.
I meant more in terms of having an audience for the game. I'm not too sure how the finances of a situation like this play out..
pretty simple....viking fans get money back from the team and james harrison pays the vikings for losing a home game
lol
The video of the roof collapsing was tight.
I think I heard Brad Childress laughing in the background.
theres a video of it actually caving in?
Yeah FOX showed it on the pre-game.
Pretty sweet.
link (http://msn.foxsports.com/video/shows/nfl-on-fox?vid=ca15cffb-3b66-49a0-84ca-20ed0a175567)
So people with tickets to the game can show up in Detroit and get preferred seats. Anyone else can show up and get general admission for free.
the entire game will be replayed on NFL Network at midnight
mara is such a putz
he begged the nfl to move the giants/minny game to the meadowlands like they did a few years ago for katrina.
nm
LOL Eli...dos picks already
And of course the Vikings can't capitalize
Giants with 3rd and goal after they lost that challenge
Steve Smith is done for the year.
sweet
sintim too...manningham gonna be a struggle to play too
Some others including Tuck pretty banged up,too. I hope Eli is good to go though. I look forward that post-turnover aww shucks dang it sulk.
has barry cofields taser dance been discussed yet? that shtein was straight scary.
I thought it was a defibrillator dance. Either way, it was awful.
kornheiser called it the best sack dance hes ever seen
And that's why Kornheiser is awful.
Quote from: Die-Hard on December 15, 2010, 02:11:40 PM
has barry cofields taser dance been discussed yet? that shtein was straight scary.
I searched around but couldn't find an article about Vikings players saying it was disresepectful
Quote from: Die-Hard on December 15, 2010, 02:11:40 PM
has barry cofields taser dance been discussed yet? that shtein was straight scary.
For the uninformed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhixXslAf4o
thats farging awesome
he over did it a little. 2 times would've been good
thats the great thing about the pimp plunge you can only do it once
it was funny reading Tyrell Thomas saying today that they weren't going to let him showboat. mother farger, he backstepped into the endzone from the 10 last year in your stadium. that ship has sailed.
Giants wideout Steve Smith's microfracture surgery could be costly
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on December 16, 2010, 2:04 PM EST
S. Smithnyg1
The news surrounding Giants receiver Steve Smith's season-ending knee injury continues to get worse.
The team's '09 leading receiver will undergo microfracture surgery and mosaicplasty on his knee, according to Ralph Vacchiano of the New York Daily News. His rehab could take 6-9 months, according to Newsday.
That could put Smith's status for the start of next season in some jeopardy and it cost Smith a significant amount of money this offseason. Set to be a free agent, Smith was still playing under his rookie contract. He would have probably received a new deal by now if not for the labor uncertainty.
Smith has a unique skill set as a strong route runner with good hands, but that skill set often doesn't get paid as much as deep threats. It's possible he could have to sign a short-term deal to get the long-term money his production warrants.
An NFL team had not blown a 21-point lead at the half since the Giants did it against Tennessee in 2006.
the giants suck, too.
Love seeing this face:
(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/1219/nfl_g_manning16_600.jpg)
Alice "The Goon" Manning.
Manningface!!
http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/giantsblog/rolle_guarantees_giants_will_make_4ieEHtr8rk5IwryITunrgP
wow...a guarantee that they will win at least one of two games. pretty ballsy there guy.
Don't know how they gameplan for the ultimate weapon... Rex Grossman.
They're going to try to keep him in the pocket and limit his running lanes.
Quote from: FastFreddie on December 20, 2010, 07:01:56 PM
Don't know how they gameplan for the ultimate weapon... Rex Grossman.
Time for the vaunted taterskin two QB formation. Grossman? Beck? You can't gameplan for that!!
Did anyone see Eli's press confernece... He was sitting there waiting for the media to show up and only one guy with a schoolbag showed up, so he began.
What are the odds of the Giants hiring Cowher after this season?
Pretty good.
There's been smoke around that rumor for awhile that he wanted the Jints job.
ESPN says his order of preference is NYG, MIA, and HOU
I'd like to see him go to HOU.
I'd like to see him go to Penn State
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 21, 2010, 04:38:12 PM
ESPN says his order of preference is NYG, MIA, and HOU
I'd like to see him go to HOU.
So would I. Don't want him with the Giants at all.
Top 10 Giant excuses (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1SZCbNp9Jc)
^^^not worth watching
It really wasn't... those things have always been stupid and unfunny but that one was exceptionally bad.
seubert out for the year
lets go bears
example 1a of how the rules in the nfl have made passing numbers empty
eli manning threw for 4000 yards this year
and I think for 4000 int's too right?
:-D
Exactly ig. I was reading a thread where someone was saying that QBs with less than 60% compltions shouldn't be ranked high. The game has changed so much in the last 30 years since the "Blount rule" the QBs from that time border can't ever be compared.
(http://www.gifsoup.com/view2/1644744/coughlin-o.gif)
Will be back next season
ESPN just reminded me of how the Giants gave up a 38-14 lead to lose to the 49ers in the Wildcard round of the 2002 playoffs
Tiki Wants To Play Again (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Tiki-Barber-8217-s-return-to-football-is-a-trea?urn=nfl-wp2735)
Good luck Chump, and have fun with fellow depressed looney toon Andrews
Francesca is tearing Tiki apart right now on a live interview..Tiki took offense to Francesca calling his broadcasting career a failure and its been a free for all since. Making it even worse, Tiki's agent is also on the line.
Is Francesca some sort of code name for Jim Rome? Because Tiki and his agent were just on with him for about 25 minutes.
nope, code name for mike francesca - first interview w tiki since the sitdown he did w keteyian last night
I'd like to hear that - I hope they podcast it
Quote from: DH on June 22, 2011, 03:42:20 PM
nope, code name for mike francesca - first interview w tiki since the sitdown he did w keteyian last night
Tiki and his agent must be making their rounds on the radio today. Not surprising since he's trying to get back in the league and needs his name being thrown out there as much as possible to try and generate interest.
ESPN Jersey guido columnist says the Eagles are in the Giants' heads (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/27812/yes-the-eagles-are-in-the-giants-heads)
David Tyree is bat shtein crazy. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/20/david-tyree-would-trade-his-catch-to-stop-gay-marriage/)
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 24, 2011, 04:40:39 AM
David Tyree is bat shtein crazy votes for the same people that I tend to vote for.
:evil
I like that the new board software doesn't even show blocked posts on reply. I haven't seen a Munson post in a while.
womp womp salty salty
Herzlich to the Giants.
Rich Seubert and Shaun O'Hara gettin' the axe.
between the giants and cowboys cuts today, theres a halfway decent o-line out there for the taking
Sounds like Shawn Andrews was cut
Sign him
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/28689/giants-cutting-andrews-adding-burress
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 26, 2011, 07:26:38 PM
Sounds like Shawn Andrews was cut
Sign him
I'm going to go ahead and not care about this one way or the other.
Shefter adds more wood to the Burress back to the Giants fire...he said the two sides have been talking most of the day
And how do you feel about Schefter's wood?
Put Shawn and Stacy back together again...OL line problem solved.
nm....didn't see the previous page
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 26, 2011, 09:47:31 PM
ha........Shawn was released too
Shawn and Shawn. Both released?
I thought he was depressed, not schizophrenic.
One personality plays football, the other is a musician. Both of them farging love pancakes.
Schizophrenia is not the same thing as multiple personality disorder.
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2011/07/plaxico_burress_to_visit_with.html
Plaxico visiting with the Giants tomorrow
i hope he signs there..no way he and coughlin get along and it would just be grand to watch go down
giants somehow found the time to sign a head coach...eagles having trouble signing players
Didn't they also sign David Baas to replace O'Hara?
Yes.
Kiwanuka is going to re-sign.
Giants have apparently taken issue with Vince Young's "Dream Team" comment.
Take that + Shady/Osi spat + usual rivalry = epic games this year?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 27, 2011, 09:22:46 PM
giants somehow found the time to sign a head coach...eagles having trouble signing players
lol @ me
First time you've ever been wrong!
shhhhh
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 31, 2011, 01:15:13 PM
Giants have apparently taken issue with Vince Young's "Dream Team" comment.
Take that + Shady/Osi spat + usual rivalry = epic games this year?
Then they will really hate consecutive losses #7 and 8.
Giants have given Osi permission to seek a trade. I'm sure Shady is up in Howie's dorm room right now lobbying for him.
Quote from: Feva on August 01, 2011, 11:22:18 AM
Giants have given Osi permission to seek a trade. I'm sure Shady is up in Howie's dorm room right now lobbying for him.
Shady? How about Winston Justice. I think he has PTSD-type symptoms about that game.
Gmen re-sign Ahmad Bradshaw.
How did he not get more interest around the league? Was it just wanting too much money?
RB market has a lot more supply than demand in general right now. Many times (like the Eagles, some have rumored) are waiting to jump in until the first few guys set the market - then they can pick up depth on the cheap.
Bradshaw and Jacobs are a nice backfield, they are smart to keep him. When I saw news that the taterskins were interested in him, it didn't surprise me. Giants must not have liked that idea at all.
Quote from: Feva on August 01, 2011, 02:17:53 PM
How did he not get more interest around the league? Was it just wanting too much money?
He fumbles a lot, has had a bunch of injuries....even though they haven't kept him off the field for the most part I don't think teams are going to invest a lot of money on a guy that his wheels could fall off at any moment.
Quote from: Feva on August 01, 2011, 11:22:18 AM
Giants have given Osi permission to seek a trade. I'm sure Shady is up in Howie's dorm room right now lobbying for him.
Supposedly the Giants want a 1st rounder for him.
They might get a 3rd for him...possibly a second from a team that's desperate...no way they're getting a 1st.
Exactly what I was telling a Giant fan I work with. He seems to think teams are lining up to throw a 1st rounder for a DE whit 9 years of wear and tear and past knee issues. 1st round offers are reserved for QB's.
Word on the streets is that if the Giants lower their asking price to a 2nd, the Ravens will snatch him up. That'd be sick.
not going to happen
http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/08/03/giants-rescind-permission-for-umenyiora-to-seek-trade/
Good. Tear them apart from the inside, Osi.
lol they signed Stacy Andrews
Since they seem to have a taste for zesty Eagles o-lineman, I wonder if they'd be willing to trade Osi for Justice?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/giants-lose-cornerback-bruce-johnson-to-torn-achilles/
Also, the Giants were the last team to get their #1 pick signed. Pointing and laughing?
Can't build up a good laugh over an injury. Maybe if Eli were to throw out his back attempting auto-fellatio.
Wait? Watkins signed?
What about DeSean? They paid him yet?
Sober up hippy.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 04, 2011, 10:13:11 PM
Wait? Watkins signed?
Yes, he was practicing in time to give CPR to Mike Patterson.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 04, 2011, 10:13:11 PM
What about DeSean? They paid him yet?
Vick is going to get an extension first. The Eagles aren't going to pay DeSean until he shows up.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 04, 2011, 10:14:24 PM
Sober up hippyster.
Kevin Boss to the Raiders....4/$16M
thank f'ing god
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 05, 2011, 01:22:55 PM
Kevin Boss to the Raiders....4/$16M
thank f'ing god
That's good.
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 05, 2011, 01:22:55 PM
Kevin Boss to the Raiders....4/$16M
thank f'ing god
That's a bit of a shocker. The Giants have taken a step backwards this offseason.
Over the cap. Gotta let folks go.
Who is sucking up all their money?
Here's their players making at least $3M:
Eli = $8.5M
Webster = $8M
Canty = $5.25M
Rolle = $5.25M
Jacobs = $4.65M
McKenzie = $4.3M
Diehl = $4M
Boley = $3.5M
Tuck = $3.45M
Osi = $3.125M
Rosenfels = $3M
The Eagles have 12 players making over $3M, and that doesn't include pimp yet
They're paying Corey Webster $8 million this season? That can't be right.
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/12/details_of_websters_contract_e.html
How much are they paying Stacy Andrews? :-D
Prince Amukamara out indefinitely with broken bone in foot
Ben Patrick decided to retire instead of playing for them
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 06, 2011, 10:02:12 PM
Prince Amukamara out indefinitely with broken bone in foot
Ouch!
Quote from: SD on August 06, 2011, 06:10:59 PM
They're paying Corey Webster $8 million this season? That can't be right.
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 06, 2011, 07:53:25 PM
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/12/details_of_websters_contract_e.html
Don't you EVER doubt Easy you sumbitch!
Giants fans are livid that Smith went to the Eagles.
Some dude on Smith's Facebook page was like "sorry man, I gotta un-friend you now"
Like he farging cares about some jackoff from north Jersey un-friending him.
Yeah man! You showed him!
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/6868654/eli-manning-sees-same-class-new-england-patriots-tom-brady
I totally see that. Basically the same player!
I'd rank him 10-15 among QBs in the league and around the top 10 when he's on his game. He's too inconsistent and turns the ball over way too much. What a delusional idiot. He's not even the best QB in his division.
Eli beat Brady in a Super Bowl, so by comparing himself to Brady I guess he's just being humble.
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 16, 2011, 09:41:57 PM
The Giants defense and a miracle catch by David Tyree beat Brady in a Super Bowl, so by comparing himself to Brady I guess he's just being an idiot.
If Favre can ride a 20 year wave off someone else winning him a Super Bowl, why can't Eli? They might as well be the same person.
Except that Favre was, at one point, likable.
There are people old enough to vote now who do not remember a time when Favre was likable.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 17, 2011, 01:56:48 AM
Except that Favre was, at one point, likable.
he still is likable...america is just stupid...the more important point is that farve is on the short list of best qb's ever and eli is a dog
I liked Favre at one point. A lot actually.
Until he turned into a drug addicted, drama queen who thinks the world revolves around him.
Why wouldn't Manning compare himself to Manning? Afraid of his older brother, that's why. What a Hoyda
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 17, 2011, 09:15:48 AM
I liked Favre at one point. A lot actually.
Until he turned into a drug addicted, drama queen who thinks the world revolves around him.
the fact that you are little miss bleeding heart on pretty much everything but kill this man for getting addicted to pain killers shows that your opinion of him cannot be taken serious
dook is one of the most watchable players ever and blasted a cock shot over jenn stergers bow...im not sure how he could be more likeable
He could curl up and die. That would work for me, at least.
Getting addicted to pain killers is something that can happen to anyone, especially a pro athlete in a contact sport. Don't see how that makes the guy less likable. Cris Carter was an alcoholic but I don't see anyone still bashing him for that. I just got sick of the attention whoring he did for the last 5 years. Doesn't change my opinion of him as a player one bit though.
I don't really care about him one way or another. Over the course of his career, I think he's been overrated more than not. That's not to say that he was a bad quarterback, just that I don't like the "best of all time" arguments that people throw out there. He's not.
Quote from: Zanshin on August 17, 2011, 11:02:26 AM
I don't really care about him one way or another. Over the course of his career, I think he's been overrated more than not. That's not to say that he was a bad quarterback, just that I don't like the "best of all time" arguments that people throw out there. He's not.
no you clearly have a vendetta...because he didnt retire when he said he would i guess
you can argue where you would put him in the group but hes a lock down automatic no brainer 1 billion percent guaranteed top 10 qb of all time...which would make him one of the "best of all time"
to argue otherwise is to show your hate for the man
every man should like him
hes got a small, beat up, ugly ass cock. ours is better looking than his. this is good. this makes us look good.
Exactly Zanshin. Like Eli, Favre had the propensity to throw a shtein ton of interceptions too. He was a great QB, but not in the same stratosphere of somebody like Joe Montana or Otto Graham
Quote from: MDS on August 17, 2011, 11:36:53 AM
every man should like him
hes got a small, beat up, ugly ass cock. ours is better looking than his. this is good. this makes us look good.
Just how long did you stare at it?
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2011, 11:36:52 AM
Quote from: Zanshin on August 17, 2011, 11:02:26 AM
I don't really care about him one way or another. Over the course of his career, I think he's been overrated more than not. That's not to say that he was a bad quarterback, just that I don't like the "best of all time" arguments that people throw out there. He's not.
no you clearly have a vendetta...because he didnt retire when he said he would i guess
you can argue where you would put him in the group but hes a lock down automatic no brainer 1 billion percent guaranteed top 10 qb of all time...which would make him one of the "best of all time"
to argue otherwise is to show your hate for the man
Uhh, no. No vendetta, no hate. I didn't even say he wasn't in the top ten. But there's not much of coherent argument that he's the best. Either you can't read, or your bored.
IGY? Saying bullshtein for bullshtein's sake? You take that back!
Ok whatever, take out the painkiller part and the rest holds true.
Drama queen who thinks everything is about him and tries to make everyone think the same way.
It's IGY...older, better at football and good looking.
Quote from: Zanshin on August 17, 2011, 11:47:34 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2011, 11:36:52 AM
Quote from: Zanshin on August 17, 2011, 11:02:26 AM
I don't really care about him one way or another. Over the course of his career, I think he's been overrated more than not. That's not to say that he was a bad quarterback, just that I don't like the "best of all time" arguments that people throw out there. He's not.
no you clearly have a vendetta...because he didnt retire when he said he would i guess
you can argue where you would put him in the group but hes a lock down automatic no brainer 1 billion percent guaranteed top 10 qb of all time...which would make him one of the "best of all time"
to argue otherwise is to show your hate for the man
Uhh, no. No vendetta, no hate. I didn't even say he wasn't in the top ten. But there's not much of coherent argument that he's the best. Either you can't read, or your bored.
yeah i said hes on the short list of best ever qb's...i guess top 10 is the long list?
oh and thanks for letting everyone know hes not THE best ever
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 17, 2011, 11:54:42 AM
and tries to make everyone think the same way.
lol...what?
what is farve a voodo hyptnotist or something?
Phillygirl, now it sounds like you have a crush on him
You're welcome. I wouldn't let him sniff the top 5, by the way. After the top 3 or so, it's a significant dropoff, imo.
It's amazing how someone can say they hate MA as much as they do yet clearly loves MAmericans.
some are ok...you cant just across the board discriminate...otherwise youd be just like them....got to take each case individually...plus its hard to be an athlete and be racist...they actually get exposed to worldy things due to their position...perfect example is farves interraction with warren sapp thruout his career....nothing better than those twos relationship...it was like the football paul and stevie
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2011, 12:35:21 PM
some are ok...you cant just across the board discriminate...otherwise youd be just like them....got to take each case individually...plus its hard to be an athlete and be racist...they actually get exposed to worldy things due to their position...perfect example is farves interraction with warren sapp thruout his career....nothing better than those twos relationship...it was like the football paul and stevie
How much worldly experience do you think Favre got travelling between Mississippi and Green Bay every year for 15 years?
favre might be the most unlikable athlete of his generation. he's a cheat, a liar, an attentionwhore, and quite probably he tortures dogs too.
OUT.
I don't know about torturing dogs, but he literally killed his family members and wife's rack to fuel his fragile body in order to keep playing.
Quote from: Rome on August 17, 2011, 05:48:18 PM
favre might be the most unlikable athlete of his generation. he's a cheat, a liar, an attentionwhore, and quite probably he tortures dogs too.
OUT.
Favre is the ultimate MA person in the world. He's a QB, who wears and advertises for Wrangler jeans, is a good ole boy, is white, hunts and drives his tractor in the offseason, and had an addiction. If that doesn't sum up the term MA then I don't know what does.
Let's not forget the whole "I'm not mentoring Aaron Rodgers" thing. Good for Rodgers for shoving that Superbowl trophy up Favre's ass.
Osi had knee surgery--out up to 6 weeks.
Terrell Thomas tore his ACL - done for the year
He looked great on kickoffs
Brian Witherspoon also tore his ACL.
So far, the Giants secondary looks like this:
CB Terrell Thomas - Torn ACL, out for the year
CB Brian Witherspoon - Torn ACL, out for the year
CB Bruce Johnson - Ruptured Achilles, out for the year
CB Prince Amukamara - Broken Foot, out 4-6 weeks
DT Marvin Austin out for the year with a torn pec too
the naming rights to the stadium were bought by MetLife
(http://images.pictureshunt.com/pics/c/charlie_brown_football-5357.jpg)
What If Eli Manning Were Any Whiter Than He Was Today In NYC? (http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/what_if_eli_manning_were_any_whiter_than_he_was_today_in_nyc/6380587)
eli had a good game tonight
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 29, 2011, 09:15:42 PM
eli had a good game tonight
Sure.... 6.7 yards per completion - 2 interceptions - QB rating of 43.6
He was awesome
damn my bad...i stand corrected
you all over this stat shtein son
dont get me wrong i love CF to death......but i cant tell if its the extreme homerism or pure stupidy (or a combo of both) that makes this place a top three worst sites on the internet
whatever it is, you fit right in icehole
Eli throws 2 INTs in the first half but he had a good game what?
i cant tell if shes....dont play pg you be serious
I flipped to NFL Network to check on it and it was halftime. Torry Holt was trying to analyze plays with the touch screen and it was creeped the F out too
For real. He's not playing any more, get that awful thing fixed. Him and Baldinger. I can't stop staring at it, not listening to shtein they say. MOLE!
Ruptured patella tendon for Clint Sintim
Nightmare preseason for the Gmen.
holy shtein the Giants are bad. they have last place pretty muck locked up in the NFC east this year
Injuries on defense + inconsistent passing game = pretty bad
yeah i know the defense won it so save the obviouscies but eli winning a supebowl will go down as one of life all time cruelties
except that never happened
then he got a sb ring for playing on another team which is even worse
Are the Giants that friggen' bad or are the Skins a little better than we'd thought?
Skins are better.
no mcnabb makes them at least two wins better
Quote from: shorebird on September 12, 2011, 08:57:10 PM
Are the Giants that friggen' bad or are the Skins a little better than we'd thought?
neither
it was just one game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2hqkDpn2h8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2hqkDpn2h8)
Take that, camera guy!
I'm guessing no fine for that.
(http://i.imgur.com/R3DpM.gif)
outstanding.
A little silver lining was watching Sheli throw a pick 6 in the red zone.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 09, 2011, 04:23:00 PM
A little silver lining was watching Sheli throw a pick 6 in the red zone.
NO
It made me smile for a minute.
Wow....so Houston is driving for the winning td around the 40, throws incomplete but Seymour gets flagged for hitting Schaub at the knees and gets 15 yds. Next play the snap goes over his head and they lose about 15 yds. Then Shaub hits a guy on the 5 yd line with about 19 seconds left but by the time they can line up to spike it, 5 seconds left on the clock. Next play Schaub throws an int in the end zone, Raiders win.
Just win baby.
This is not the Around The NFL thread.
In your defense, Seymour did play against the Giants in the Super Bowl.
The Giants don't suck nearly as bad as we do. I farging hate this team.
New York Giants RB Brandon Jacobs was upset over his role following the team's Week 8 win. Jacobs had just four carries for 10 yards, in addition to one reception for zero yards. Many of those he did get were while fellow RB Ahmad Bradshaw (foot) was being tended to on the sideline for foot pain. "I've got nothing positive to say," Jacobs said. "The most positive thing: I got family at home and I got a fast-ass car being delivered on Tuesday. That's it."
So he's really upset and getting a very fast car. I'm looking forward to how this ends.
That dude is a nut. All he does is complain. I don't like Asante's attitude, but I can't imagine having a whiny bitch like that on the Eagles. If you aren't happy after a win that puts you up two games in your own division, then you need to go, regardless of the cap implications. He is done with the Giants after this year and I would be surprised if he ever plays a snap with anyone after that. Older RB + zesty attitude + declining skills = no job.
The Eagles took Ryan Moats while he was still on the board.
Fly Eagles Fly!
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 31, 2011, 08:32:09 PM
The Eagles took Ryan Moats while he was still on the board.
Reid will never have a rb like Jacobs. The big downhill runner. Ried likes the small scat backs.
Quote from: methdeez on October 31, 2011, 07:17:50 PM
That dude is a nut. All he does is complain. I don't like Asante's attitude, but I can't imagine having a whiny bitch like that on the Eagles. If you aren't happy after a win that puts you up two games in your own division, then you need to go, regardless of the cap implications. He is done with the Giants after this year and I would be surprised if he ever plays a snap with anyone after that. Older RB + zesty attitude + declining skills = signing with Washington..
Bradshaw's out indefinitely... womp womp.
does anyone know where brandon jacobs was when the injury occured
Quote from: Hawk on November 03, 2011, 03:04:42 PM
Bradshaw's out indefinitely... womp womp.
I refuse to believe that until Schefter agrees.
or at minimum lawlor
Quote from: Hawk on November 03, 2011, 03:04:42 PM
Bradshaw's out indefinitely... womp womp.
Or not. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/03/ahmad-bradshaw-could-still-play-this-week/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/03/ahmad-bradshaw-could-still-play-this-week/)
Doesn't matter, they will get stomped anyway.
Yeah, it's been forever since the last time they won a game as a 9-point road dog.
can someone explain to me how eli is the third highest rated qb in the nfl....i guess i havent been paying attention but that came out of nowhere
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 03, 2011, 05:45:12 PM
Yeah, it's been forever since the last time they won a game as a 9-point road dog.
so they are due
Have to go all the way back to week 3.
That was months ago!
held to 29 yards rushing (at home!) by the Philadelphia f'n Eagles, lol
Last Sunday I was a sports bar with the hottest waitresses you'll ever see. It happened to be busy and I noticed a Giants fan and his boy, anywhere from 7 to 10 years old, the Sandusky range, and I knew what was going to happen, but I wanted to test it out. So, as I was leaving, I walked by his table and I said, 'Go Eagles'. His response?
In front of his kid of course, "farg the Eagles".
I wasn't surprised. Piece of shtein.
And you didn't tell him to stop farging the Eagle Scouts and hand the kid a child abuse number? Shame on you.
"Caption?"
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/SamiB/ScreenShot2011-12-11at114804PM.png)
Great, let those fargers right back in it.
JPP > Brandon Graham
I saw Carl Banks on Saturday at the supermarket..I usually don't go up to athletes, etc I recognize, but he was wearing a 49ers hoodie and matching Niners sweatpants so I was a bit curious.
I asked him if he was trying to throw the Giants fans off by wearing Niners gear, and he genuinely look confused. 2 days later, I'm the one who is confused.
I think this is the point where people usually opt for the surgery....you know...to end the confusion.
or it was just a big black dude and not carl banks. nice one racist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC_ucbiqKoQ&feature=share
I hate the internet sometimes.
Howie ain't down with JPP.
Brandon Jacobs says that Cowboys fans are "even worse than" Eagles fans.
That motherfarger.
Victor Cruz and Eli Manning are liking each other.
Can you imagine how awesome the Giants would have been if the Eagles didn't steal Steve Smith away?
http://www.csnphilly.com/blog/eagles-talk/post/Giants-run-enough-to-make-stomachs-turn?blockID=636592&feedID=704
"barf"
QuoteAnd they're not like the fraud loser Dallas fans who grew up in Collingswood or Collingdale, who have never set foot in North Texas and only became Cowboys fans because of the Emmitt-Irvin-Aikman run of the 1990s and the typically misguided belief that by becoming Cowboys fans they could snag a few easy Super Bowl titles to call their own.
Best thing he's ever said!
how big of a 180 has this trade taken in the last five years
giants get eli manning
chargers get shawn merrimen....phillip rivers and nate kaeding
(http://www.awfulannouncing.com/images/stories/rushnosepick.jpg)
when rush is picking his nose in the owners box, maybe its a good thing the giants won
Would you mind posting a bigger picture? Thanks.
http://youtu.be/wwvTPNMEEGI
whore
Nice of the Giants players to make utter jerkoffs of themselves today.
Thanks for nothing Pats.
What a dumb bitch :-D
Quote from: rjs246 on February 06, 2012, 01:41:54 PM
Would you mind posting a bigger picture? Thanks.
REFRESHING
From the no surprise file: The Giants released Brandon Jacobs.
Get.
Dude's a walking vagina. Pass.
I cant stand the guy, but Ill take him on 3rd and short then back to the bench you go.
thing is hes not good in short yardage...people think he is cause hes huge...but dook needs a legit hole or hes done...
wheres hes a beast is when he gets thru a hole gains speed and trucks someone...for a guy as big as he is he doesnt push piles ever because he runs so upright
Quote from: hbionic on March 09, 2012, 06:19:49 PM
Dude's a walking vagina. Pass.
Agree. There comes a point where players aren't worth their attitudes and baggage, especially if you don't have a team with strong leaders and an established core of long standing vets on that team. It's all the more so if the prospect isn't all that special to begin with.
no thank you
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2012, 06:33:32 PM
thing is hes not good in short yardage...people think he is cause hes huge...but dook needs a legit hole or hes done...
wheres hes a beast is when he gets thru a hole gains speed and trucks someone...for a guy as big as he is he doesnt push piles ever because he runs so upright
This is absolutely on point. He doesn't hit beast mode until he clears the LOS. I don't know if he doesn't trust the blocking up front or if he just doesn't know where he's supposed to go or if he's just a Hoyda who is afraid of getting hit by a DT, but dude tip toes around the back field like he's trying to sneak passed the defense.
one thing against him being able to be a short yardage back is his height...the ideal short yardage back is compact...like a mjd...the more body you have exposed the more places for the defense to attack and the less you are going to bounce off people
igy's post is [like sarge said] on point.
Jacobs Hoyda foots through holes but once he breaks free he's a monster to take down. He runs too high and doesn't hit the hole hard which is why he's a poor short yardage back.
The reason he runs too high is that he's too big. He's a pain in the ass, he's old, he's not going to get any faster or stronger. Any two bit player can get a good shoulder into this guy. Pass.
I'd rather see Addai spelling Shady if I had to pick from FA RBs.
Agreed on not wanting Jacobs. He's a goddamn brick shteinhouse who runs like a twelve year old ballerina.
Sooooo... He's an Eagle by Wednesday morning, right?
As the new starting MLB, yes.
Shockey wants to go back to the Giants.
The Giants aren't interested.
Even at veteran minimum salary?
Yep, still not interested.
Haha, clown.
i was talking to someone last night about how even though the giants are the only team in the division doing anything good the last decade, i still hate them much less than the skins or cowboys.
really?
i hate them by far more than the others
dallas i could care less about outside of them being just another division rival
skins i despise but only cause i live here and their fans are farg faces...if i lived anywhere else skins would be dallas to me
Quote from: phattymatty on March 15, 2012, 10:14:43 AM
i was talking to someone last night about how even though the giants are the only team in the division doing anything good the last decade, i still hate them much less than the skins or cowboys.
Same. Maybe it's because they aren't a complete joke and their fans are actually more similar to Philly fans than the clueless idiots that root for the skins and pukes.
We have a winner.
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 15, 2012, 10:24:12 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on March 15, 2012, 10:14:43 AM
i was talking to someone last night about how even though the giants are the only team in the division doing anything good the last decade, i still hate them much less than the skins or cowboys.
Same. Maybe it's because they aren't a complete joke and their fans are actually more similar to Philly fans than the clueless idiots that root for the skins and pukes.
you are confusing jet and giant fans
and dont ever compare philly and new york people....new yorkers are the worst people on the planet...even tho giant fans are scarf wearing merlot sippers from connecticut
Jet fans are generally known as wannabe Giant fans who got tired of waiting out the season ticket list. But yeah, from the green duds to the inferiority complex, Jet fans are probably more similar to us. Even so, both generally understand the game of football and can name more than 2-3 players on their teams.
i get why people would be annoyed by bandwagon fans (cowboys) or taterskins fans (homer morons) but its the great fans and teams that i hate
by far my two most hated teams in the nfl are the steelers and giants
new york and boston easily my two most hated sports cities
i just dont have it inside me to care enough about dallas or the skins (minus the team i live near thing) to truly despise them
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 15, 2012, 10:32:24 AM
Jet fans are generally known as wannabe Giant fans who got tired of waiting out the season ticket list. But yeah, from the green duds to the inferiority complex, Jet fans are probably more similar to us. Even so, both generally understand the game of football and can name more than 2-3 players on their teams.
Don't forget that we both had the misfortune of having Rich Kottite on the sidelines for a few years. Those are the ties that bind.
And I also agree with Matty. Giants are my least hated division rival. But don't get it twisted, the hate is there and it's strong.
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 15, 2012, 10:24:12 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on March 15, 2012, 10:14:43 AM
i was talking to someone last night about how even though the giants are the only team in the division doing anything good the last decade, i still hate them much less than the skins or cowboys.
Same. Maybe it's because they aren't a complete joke and their fans are actually more similar to Philly fans than the clueless idiots that root for the skins and pukes.
Both these statements are extremely accurate
the Giants should be the most hated by far. they are for me.
but DALLAS SUCKS, lol! omg i hate dallas because angelo says i should
Some of us hate Dallas because we're a different generation. Elders and whatnot.
Doesn't stop me from hating the taterskins and Giants though.
Eli is hosting SNL on May 5
farg Eli.
Quote from: Rome on March 15, 2012, 06:18:49 PM
Some of us hate Dallas because we're a different generation. Elders and whatnot.
Doesn't stop me from hating the taterskins and Giants though.
True, the younguns don't fully realize why dallas should be so thoroughly despised. Washington too, but they suck so much every year they are just pathetic.
I don't really hate NY. Partly because I lived in upstate NY for 10 years and also my father's family is from NY, so it's been more of a friendly ball busting rivalry.
But to see the difference you can just look at the owners. Jones trumps Snyder for the biggest icehole in this area of the galaxy but not by a whole lot.
On the other hand I respect the Mara's and think they are class owners of a good organization. Wellington Mara was fully in favor of sharing revenue to help the small market teams 50 years ago when he could have been like the greedy bastiches of today and said no. Guys like he and the Rooneys got it when it came to being decent people and working together toward the greater good of the sport (as evidenced in the legacy of Rooney Mara, the great grand daughter of the team's original owners). Now most of them couldn't care less about their own players much less the fans, other than how it serves their own interests.
Quote from: Eagaholic on April 16, 2012, 01:06:09 AM
Jones trumps Snyder for the biggest icehole in this area of the galaxy but not by a whole lot.
wow...not even close
jerry jones is an awesome person and a not very good owner
lil danni is a horrendous owner and an even more despicable human being
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 17, 2012, 03:04:24 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on April 16, 2012, 01:06:09 AM
Jones trumps Snyder for the biggest icehole in this area of the galaxy but not by a whole lot.
wow...not even close
jerry jones is the devil and deserves to be wiped off the face of the earth so it can immediately become a better place...and not a very good owner
lil danni is a horrendous owner and an even more despicable human being
id have a beer with jerry jones any day and probably have solid football talk and a good time
lil danni on the other hand i feel like torturing everytime i see or hear him
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 17, 2012, 03:13:32 PM
id have a beer with jerry jones any day and consequently deserve to be wiped off the face of the earth so it can immediately become a better place
lil danni on the other hand i feel like torturing everytime i see or hear him
Week 1 - vs. Dallas Cowboys (Wed., Sept. 5)
Week 2 - vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Week 3 - at Carolina Panthers (Thurs. Sept 20)
Week 4 - at Philadelphia Eagles
Week 5 - vs. Cleveland Browns
Week 6 - at San Francisco 49ers
Week 7 - vs. Washington taterskins
Week 8 - at Dallas Cowboys
Week 9 - vs. Pittsburgh Steelers
Week 10 - at Cincinnati Bengals
Week 11 - BYE (Nov. 18)
Week 12 - vs. Green Bay Packers
Week 13 - at Washington taterskins
Week 14 - vs. New Orleans Saints
Week 15 - at Atlanta Falcons
Week 16 - at Baltimore Ravens
Week 17 - vs. Philadelphia Eagles
They get the Eagles with three extra days rest.
They signed Shaun Rogers...
Jason Kelce better put his big boy pants on to block that load.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7936831/champion-new-york-giants-unveil-super-bowl-xlvi-ring
* VOMITS *
Why torture yourself by reading articles like that? The next article about Super Bowl rings that I read will be when the Eagles finally win it. If that ever happens in my life.
This was only a matter of time
QuoteOsi Umenyiora has apologized for offending women with his "Happy Mother's Day" tweet to Eagles running back LeSean McCoy.
The Giants defensive end delivered that apology via Twitter on Thursday morning, apparently from overseas. It was a response to an article on ESPN's website that was critical of the way he insulted his rival by calling him a woman.
"Replace 'woman" with race, religion or sexual orientation and the reaction would be far different," wrote ESPN's Sarah Spain. "Just imagine the response from media and fans if Umenyiora had tweeted McCoy 'Happy Gay Pride Day.'"
Said Umenyiora: "@SarahSpain is absolutely correct in her article. I wasnt thinking about it from that perspective. I apologize to any woman offended. It won't happen again."
Umenyiora - who said on Twitter that he is currently in Germany, which is why he missed the Giants' Super Bowl ring ceremony on Wednesday night - has insulted McCoy several times in the past year by referring to him as a woman. After McCoy used Twitter last spring to call Umenyiora "Overrated n soft 3rd best d-line on his team honestly," Umenyiora responded by calling McCoy "Lady Gaga," a "little girl" and "a woman."
Shady gave a nice interview on Sirius Radio last night. 70% of player interviews aren't worth the time. In 20% you might pick up a couple of interesting nuggets and maybe 10% are pretty good. McCoy was a definite top 10%. The interviewer asked him if there was a lot of trash talk going on between he and Osi last year and Shady said in a completely factual voice "there wasn't really much said between us. To tell you the truth I didn't see him on the field that much. It was mostly Jason Pierre Paul and Tuck." His understated dig which was probably lost on half the listeners, was the perfect counterpoint to Osi's idiotic blathering.
mds help me with this guy
I think you can only legally circumcise babies against their will.
Wait a minute - he had to apologize for saying Happy Mothers Day to a dude as trash talk?
The overly PC crowd is ruining the world. I bet if some of the delicate flowers heard even a tenth of the shtein that is said on fields they'd fall the farg out.
the eyes of texas are upon YOU
The fact is that Shady is right. JPP and Tuck are better than Osi. That's why he hit a nerve.
Reformed misogynist and all around good guy Osi U is on a mission, turning his powers to good and saving LTs Superbowl ring
QuoteOsi has plan for getting L.T.'s ring back on L.T.'s hand
Posted by Mike Florio on May 19, 2012, 1:04 PM EDT
image-1 Getty Images
Giants defensive end Osi Umenyiora has, for several years, wanted more money. But he's willing to spend some of the money he already has on something that the son of Giants linebacker Lawrence Taylor is selling: L.T.'s ring from Super Bowl XXV.
So Umenyiora has made an offer on his Twitter page: If he gets to 500,000 total Twitter followers by 10:00 p.m. ET on Saturday, he'll buy the ring and give it back to Taylor.
Umenyiora made the offer earlier today, with an initial threshold of 1 million Twitter followers. He has since cut the goal in half. (It won't be easy; as of this posting, Osi has fewer than 40,000 followers.)
If he makes it to the half-million goal and buys the ring, a random Osi follower will do the honors of giving the ring to L.T.
Maybe they can do it on June 17, and Osi can wish Taylor a Happy Father's Day.
I have a soft spot for selfless humanitarian works. So let's all sign up, who's with me?
Only twitter? I don't have to like him on facebook as well? He might just be the greatest guy in the world.
Yes, it's only Twitter, which is very do-able.
I think :CF can have the most impact if we have a strong leader to organize us. I'd like to see IGY do it, personally. If we just put aside our personal differences and all join in together, we can make a difference.
nicks broke his foot today...supposed be out 12 weeks. hopefully he loses it.
Now that's what I call a tough break
justin tucks new facemask
(https://p.twimg.com/AvNYJ5iCMAEHVPb.jpg)
Ain't no grabbing that unless you have chick fingers or get it in the eye hole.
A goddamn bulldozer.
It looks stupid without a full bar going up the center.
I feel like that would be illegal considering it could be dangerous if someone does get a finger stuck in one of those holes
there's a lot of ways that sentence could go
Switched to that mask because last season he had neck burner that bothered him all year. Opposing OLmen were grabbing the old one and twisting trying to aggravate the injury. To stick a finger in that mask is to lose it.
Nice sig Gene. :'(
Eli threw out the first pitch for the Mets, and it was a lollipop. I mean, he was holding his young daughter, but that's no excuse... Right?
the Giants are butthurt about the Pats claiming Ballard off waivers.
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 18, 2012, 12:39:37 PM
Eli threw out the first pitch for the Mets, and it was a lollipop. I mean, he was holding his young daughter, but that's no excuse... Right?
i didnt see it but maybe he was also holding his two lombardi trophys?
He was wearing them on a modified beer helmet.
Quote from: General_Failure on June 19, 2012, 01:25:47 PM
He was wearing them on a modified beer helmet.
Too bad we don't have any active posters who play around with p-chop.
You could redirect all your Draw Something talents into P-chopping. Where's your heart, kiddo?
I don't even have DrawSomething installed on my phone anymore, old man.
Wait. RSbirdman? WTF?
oh shtein Ray's back
Yeah, Joneszilla was back too.
I wish your return was like that.
QuoteTeammate says Jason Pierre-Paul is like Reggie White
Posted by Michael David Smith on June 27, 2012, 10:00 AM EDT
Getty ImagesGiants defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul is coming off a tremendous season, is freakishly athletic and at age 23 has an enormous upside. But one teammate may have gone a bit overboard in describing just how high Pierre-Paul's upside is.
Giants defensive lineman Chris Canty says he thinks Pierre-Paul can be as good as Reggie White.
"There is really nobody in the league right now that you can compare him to," Canty said on the Michael Kay Show. "The only person that kind of sticks out where you can compare him to — and I can't believe I am saying this — but he reminds me a lot of Reggie White. His ability to play all those different positions and to impact the football game the way he does, he is an unbelievable talent."
It's true that Pierre-Paul has unbelievable talent, but he's only been in the league two years. One of the things that made White amazing was how long he lasted as one of the league's top defensive linemen. From his first season with the Eagles, when he had 13 sacks in 1985, to his last season with the Packers, when he had 16 sacks in 1998, White was among the best players in the league for a decade and a half. No one deserves to be compared to White after two years in the NFL.
But it is fair to compare Pierre-Paul to active players, and Canty says Pierre-Paul compares favorably to every defensive lineman currently in the NFL. Canty previously played with one of the league's best pass rushers, his former Cowboys teammate DeMarcus Ware, and said there's "no question" that Pierre-Paul is better than Ware.
"JPP's ability to play any position along the defensive front is what makes him tremendously special," Canty said. "He can play the shade, the two technique, the three technique . . . he can do it all . . . anything you want him to do along the defensive front, he can do."
He'll have to do everything along the defensive front for a long time before he can compare to White.
Ummm No
JPP is more athletic than Reggie ever was, but he's not even in the same class as far as dominating a game. I don't see the 'potential' to be as great as Reggie. I think he'll consistently put up decent numbers but 20 years from now we won't be mentioning his name in the same breath as White/Smith/Strahan. Suh is comparable to Reggie as far as style of play goes.
reggie was farging athletic for his size though. idk that i'd easily hand that title to JPP
Reggie couldn't do flips in the air for 30 yards. That's some crazy shtein for a guy JPPs size to do. Reggie's club move and his low center of gravity were what made him impossible to move. Reggie was stronger but he wasn't as athletic. The reason these comparisons are springing up now is because JPP put on 20 lbs in the offseason so they're relatively the same size. They're not similar players at all.
Reggie was one of the strongest players in the league when he played and he had unbelievable technique and work ethic. Comparing any player to him after only 2 years is absurd.
Reggie White re-defined the position. JPP has had a great start but let's wait a few years before we measure him for a HOF bust.
you down with JPP?
only if it's his ACL
Don't know how long this will stay on the interwebs but apparently Coughlin is none too pleased about a punter posting this footage of JPP dunking Amukamara in the cold tub. Punters should stick to kicking to DeSean or else take cinematography lessons from Jeffrey.
http://www.vumee.com/members/video/2014/779
I'd be annoyed if one of my employees was too stupid to hold his phone the right way when using it to record video.
Dude's manhood was taken away from him...he got out of that bathtub looking all defeated.
I would be planning JPP's next injury. :evil
Prince Amukamara carted off, has high ankle sprain
JPP helped him to the cold tub
DeSean offers advice on how to deal with bullies
Prince serves JPP, Dline pancakes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GgED4bfhds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GgED4bfhds)
Eli throws a pick six to end the half
3 picks for Eli Vick
one more pick this week than he has superbowls
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Truly envious.
QuoteDeAngelo Hall: "It wasn't something where he was a rocket scientist, and he figured something out. We just played that as bad as possible." #NYG
QuoteEli Manning: "I appreciate him giving it to me. I don't think it took a rocket scientist either. A guy was running open and I hit him."
QuoteJustin Tuck: "DeAngelo Hall is not that smart."
I don't think its hate we have for Eli...its envy.
DeAngelo Hall is indeed a dumb farg
So am I.......meant to post this on the Point and Laugh thread.
Eli has been garbage for four straight games now. Hot garbage. Finally, the Giants lost one.
http://deadspin.com/5965396/giants-lineman-sean-locklear-used-to-have-a-right-knee-giants+taterskins-in-four-gifs
What is up with that crazy ass Dikembe Mutumbo video game at the bottom?
Coughlin should call over to the hospital and tell them to have the rape kit ready for his team.
Christ what a stomping.
This is typical Giants. They blow during the regular season, squeak into the playoffs, everyone underestimates them then BAM they win the SB.
Except that the Giants are typically an excellent December team....or at least it seems that way. But they aren't playing catch up this year either, so that may have something to do with it.
gonna be a sick finish in the nfce if dallas wins today
adv washington and new york who each get to play the fighting foles
The Eagles are out so the other three teams can slide under a cement truck and taste their own blood for all I care.
In short, go everyone else.
The plus is that if the Eagles hurt their draft position in either of the final two weeks (which I'm not sure really matters with this front office and this weak draft), they'll do so by farging over one of our favorite teams.
its so fitting
the three teams with a combined 800 super bowls are fighting for a title while the team with 0 is wallowing in the cellar
its such a pointless venture rooting for this loser pos town
Some idiot just called into Francesca saying the following...
"I'm a huge Giants fan, but I give them a pass on how they played yesterday. They had to deal with this tragedy unlike any other team has had to. Between that, and what they had to go through regarding Sandy, they get a free pass from me this season."
Holy shtein, is there a group of people worse than Giants fans?
mets fans
:-D
As I wrote that, I knew one of you would say that.
Giants fans are Yankees fans. Jets fans are Mets fans.
Dodgers fans are Mexicans. Angels fans are white.
Quote from: DH on December 17, 2012, 01:48:20 PM
As I wrote that, I knew one of you would say that.
Giants fans are Yankees fans. Jets fans are Mets fans.
This extends to hockey and basketball as well:
Giants/Yankees/Rangers/Knicks
Jets/Mets/Islanders/Nets
theres tons of jet/met fans that like the rangers and/or knicks
there are no islander or net fans
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 17, 2012, 06:10:28 PMtheres tons of jet/met fans that like the rangers and/or knicks
Doug Heffernan doesn't count
there's tons of Jets/Yankees fans too.
On the whole though, the breakdown is A team fans, and B team fans like I said.
it only goes as far as mets/jets and giants/yankees as all four of those teams have hardcore locked in fanbases
islander fans like the mets and jets for sure but mets and jets fans are more apt to like the rangers and knicks
the nets dont even count....we will see if that changes now that they are a new york team....i suspect their fanbase will mostly be made up of brooklyn hipsters looking for something different to latch onto.....but they may syphon off some knick fans as well....gonna be interesting as far as that goes
I'm so so glad you agree with me.
completely disagree with you.....but thats par for the course when it comes to sports topics
I have a friend who is a Jets/Yankees/Islanders fan
I guess the Yankees winning makes up for the awful times of being a Jets/Islanders fan
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 17, 2012, 06:50:37 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 17, 2012, 06:10:28 PMtheres tons of jet/met fans that like the rangers and/or knicks
Doug Heffernan doesn't count
However, Mrs. Heffernan scores points.......
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Yes indeed but she also loses points for being a scientology whack-job
Oh? I did not know. Why can't Tom Cruise marry her?
her penis isn't big enough
Released Ahmad Bradshaw.
and Chris Canty.
and Michael Boley
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Shaun Rogers got ripped off by a woman he met at a club and took back to his hotel room at 7am
QuoteBut Rogers wasn't just tucking away a small ring or necklace, according to the police report. Among the items Rogers said were stolen were "diamond earrings worth $100,000, two wristwatches worth a combined $160,000, a gold necklace with gold pendant worth $50,000, gold bracelets worth $60,000 and a diamond Cuban necklace with a gold pendant worth $70,000."
Was he rolling with T-Hawk?
You deserve to get jacked if you wear that much money. He's only asking for it.
Wonder if he got them insured
You'd have to be some sort of serious icehole to wear that much in jewelry. I mean the only reason to wear it, especially as a dude, is to draw attention to yourself and show how much money you have to piss away, and both of those things are indicative of an icehole. icehole.
Why do you need to wear two wristwatches at the same time?
Just incase one of them is a couple of minutes ahead. At least one will always have the right time.
One on Coughlin time and one on normal people time
Hynoski tore his MCL
Back injuries are the worst.
tough break for a guy who went 3rd overall
JPP is getting back surgery today.....same doc that's doing Gronk's one
http://www.wsbt.com/news/wsbt-former-nd-football-player-arrested-in-ny-on-assault-charge-20130806,0,2621986.story
SD just hopped off his couch and gave a standing ovation.
Stevie Brown tore his ACL, and Aaron Curry was released
Lucky for them Phillips was just released
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LOL
Looks like they've had enough of Wilson's fumbling. Jacobs and McGahee are working out for them
QuoteAdam Schefter @AdamSchefter 20m
Giants' 10 turnovers through their first two games are the most in franchise history, per Elias Sports Bureau.
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There's nothing in that picture that's inherently funny, but I chuckled anyway.
QuoteJay Glazer @JayGlazer 4m
Panthers source says they are working a trade that would send pro bowl LB Jon Beason to the Giants, who sorely need defensive help
Well...he has been benched in CAR in favor of Chase Blackburn, an ex-Giant...
broke link
did die hard and feva go today?
and where is post bar drunk romey?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: From Grandma
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I didn't think it was possible but that might be worse than the owen jokes
Old people - using 2013 technology to pass along 1992 memes.
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Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 08, 2013, 01:21:37 PM
Old people - using 2013 technology to pass along 1992 memes.
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Hahah Jesus what a goofball
eli manning rings: 2
donovan mcnabb rings: 0
Jadeveon Clowney, NY Giant?
Shaping up that way.
giants are now right in the nfce mix
They've never really been out of it.
It isn't a mix so much as a slurry.
Is that what they call the part of the sewer system where everyone's individual shteins congeal into one giant oozing shtein mass?
No, that may be the exact opposite thing.
Quote
@JimmyKempski
If Nick Foles' next 31 pass attempts are all intercepted, he would still have a higher passer rating than Eli Manning.
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2013/12/brandon_myers_vents_on_twitter_about_being_cussed_out_by_teammate.html
nm
new/re-signed Giants
Rashad Jennings
Geoff Schwartz
Stevie Brown
O'Brien Schofield
Jennings is a good player
scofield was released last summer and could have been had for like 750k....then he goes to seattle...barely plays....and the giants give him 8 million
Last I hear was they rescinded the deal and Obie is back on the market
Justin Tuck to the Raiders....2/$11M. He gave the Giants a chance to match it and they declined
DRC is visiting tomorrow
had no clue he didn't sign yet....hes gonna be a great bargain again
He turned down a $54M offer from the Broncos after they took a chance on him and rehabilitated his career.
farg that guy.
Walter Thurmond, 1 year, 3.5 mill
I missed where he turned that deal down - I thought they were just letting him walk.
Lol at him then. He's not going to sniff that money now
they signed igs' boy Q Demps too
DRC to the Giants...5-yr deal
QuoteLouis Riddick @LRiddickESPN 11m
RT:@AdamSchefter: Giants are giving CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie a 5-year, $39M deal, including $15M gtd, per source.>didn't see $ coming
There's the total deal...hopefully they get the bad aloof DRC
Meh. He's alright when he's good. He's not getting younger. Jackson and Maclin are both his better.
I don't know how much dough the Broncos had guaranteed him, but theoretically, he left 15 million dollars on the table, and went from a Super Bowl favorite to a team that might be lucky to break .500 next year.
Midget fumbler Trindon Holiday signs one yr deal
Probably easier to list who the Giants haven't signed.
QuoteDavid Wilson (neck surgery) did not gain medical clearance after a Wednesday MRI and exam.
It has to be bitterly disappointing for Wilson, who was pointing to this checkup and hoping for good news on his spinal stenosis. Instead, he'll undergo another test just before training camp, with the goal to be cleared for contact at that point. Right now, we can't confidently say that Wilson will get a doctor to sign off on his health for this season even though he feels fine. The Giants are considering anything they get out of the error-prone yet explosive 2012 first-round pick a bonus. Jun 4 - 10:00 AM
And they dumped Will Hill a couple of days ago who is also a pretty good player.
And another, a 3rd round pick
QuoteThe Giants announced that cornerback Jayron Hosley has been suspended the first four games of the coming season for violating the league's substance abuse policy.
And had a CB, Hosely, suspended for 4 games today
yeah, I think I heard that, too.
Oh yeah? Did you know a man landed on the moon too?!
That was already posted here, to keep everything in one place.
If we're keeping everything in one place then how did that farger get to the moon? Boom, moon landing debunked.
Beason broke his foot yesterday. Surgery, 12 weeks recovery. If the Giants put him on PUP to start the season, that means he's out for the first matchup with the Eagles.
http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/philly/blogs/sports/eagles/&id=273913941
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 05, 2014, 01:48:41 AM
http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/philly/blogs/sports/eagles/&id=273913941
I stopped counting the Giants out after their 2011 SB. They seem to play best when they're at their worst. But this season I can't see them finishing any better than 7 wins. 4-6 wins would be my prediction.
Quote8) Over the last two seasons, Brandon Graham has the same number of sacks and two more forced fumbles than Jason Pierre-Paul.
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/eagles/10-reasons-the-Giants-are-going-to-be-a-dumpster-fire-this-season.html#w2oQc4ZeXRl6jQKA.99
They've managed to followup horrific seasons with terrible starts, and then a SB win far too many times. But that being said, i think they're just OLD now. Oline should be an issue this year again for them.
Eli has 101 INTs since 2009
and 1 super bowl winning drive
Eli was actually pretty good yesterday but not so much for the rest of the squad.
NYG lost 7th in a row to Jax even though they were up 21-0. Eli fumbled down by 1 point with 20 seconds left to ice the game for Jax. Giant need to win some, don't want Coughlin to leave or them getting a top 10 pic. Same with Wsh.
Coughlin is clearly going to be Old Yellered after the season.
Perry Fewell fired...sounds like they want Spagnuolo back
The dude from Jane's Addiction?
yes, he got caught stealing.
When he was five, though.
He enjoys stealing, it's just as simple as that.
Kiwanuka was cut
larry donnell was on that delta plane
He wasn't the only tight end on board that flight.
Ba doom, ching!
Looks like Shane Vereen will be a Giant
They also signed that Cowboy farg who did the cheapshot during the Thanksgiving game
Will Beatty's surgery went well, apparently. Still, five to six months out. That's a blow to NY.
Reports coming out that JPP blew his hand up with firecrackers last night
If he was smart he would immediately sign his franchise tag. Oh wait, somebody will have to give him a hand.
JPP's right index finger was amputated today
No wonder why he didn't want to meet with the Giants.
What a clown
Giants apparently had no idea it was amputated until Schefter tweeted it
And Schefter is getting heat for tweeting the pic of the medical paperwork
I guess there's no federal law strong enough to protect medical privacy against the combined powers of ESPN and the NY media.
I'm also taking another moment to laugh about JPP blowing up his hand.
Sounds like no chance he misses six weeks. Oh well.
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2015/07/giants-fans-step-over-woman-having-seizure-to-get-objs-autograph/
They're true fans right there
I used to take my nephews to spring training to get autographs. I won't take my own children now, it's just gotten insane.
Though the crowds for the Phils may be a lot less in the next few years. One of the perks of sucking. :yay
this novacare sideline pass I have for next week includes an eagle player visiting with you after practice....the minute the horn sounds signaling the end of the on the field stuff I'm headed for my car
Don't lie you're gonna drink a smoothie with Sanchez
Two straws one cup
He got the same butt farging gay ass flag pass he's gotten since '03 with Detmer.
these passes started since chip said farg the stalkers at Allentown
QuoteThe New York Giants feel the damage to Jason Pierre-Paul's right hand is worse than they were led to believe, sources said, and after the team got a chance to examine him on Monday, there are people in the organization who fear he might not be able to return to the field at all this year.
One source said that, in addition to the missing right index finger, fractured thumb and skin grafts -- injuries suffered in a July 4 fireworks accident -- a portion of one of the other fingers on Pierre-Paul's right hand is missing.
Still laughing that the best player on the Giants D farging blew up his hand. :-D
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I'm staring at that pic, but I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking at. I can't put my finger on it.
Now there's a guy who won't be getting single digit sacks.
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Coughlin has beat Belickick 5 out of 6 times they've met as HCs, and NYG are up 20-10 now. Still, I can't believe the Giants can win today.
I think the only game the Pats won was the reg season finale (or was it week 16?) back when the Pats went 16-0. Overall though, Caughlin definitely seems to have the hoodie's number.
Damontre Moore was cut for rules violations
There goes the Eagles free yardage guy. Dumb penalties galore
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/license-plate-guy-accused-loan-sharking-article-1.2469150?utm_content=buffera4637&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw
Sounds like OBJ will gt suspended for a game
Too bad it won't be week 17
Yep - got popped for one game
Maybe he'll appeal? And get suspended for the eagles game instead? Maybe? MAYBE!?
No.
he is appealling and his case is being heard by james thrash
Lol....seriously?
Affirmative.
Thrash is also on that stupid "catch committee" where they have people figure out what a catch is. No bullshtein.
Now that's funny. Pinky gonna teach young bucks how to go hard over the middle next?
Those who can't do, teach
Or they hippo on the internet.
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 23, 2015, 09:08:53 PM
Those who can't do, teach
Few phrases make me want to punch someone more.
Are you a boxing instructor? Because you know, those who can't do, teach
coughlin out.
oh, and....
Report: Giants among teams interested in Chip Kelly https://t.co/r2vdXJCXIg https://t.co/Os8Zc8ZFFs
— BleedingGreenNation (@BleedingGreen)
Jan 04, 2016
I'd love to see Chip trade away two time superbowl winner Eli Manning for punter with gout.
Quote from: General_Failure on January 04, 2016, 05:31:08 PM
I'd love to see Chip trade away two time superbowl winner Eli Manning for punter with gout.
Or Chip would just release him for gang related activity.
The Horse-Face Gang?
Maybe Chip would just shank him for beating the Patriots twice.
Mad respect for Coughlin after his PC today
He was a fiery dictator type early on but he really chilled out over the years.
He's a HOFer in my opinion.
hes being a stubborn old coot
his awful coaching cost his team wins this year....they havent won shtein since the sb...yea i know, 2 titles and hes a great coach....but just go away and make it easy old man
Missed the playoffs 6 of the last 7 years I believe.
Not a HOF coach in my opinion. Those two Super Bowls came out of nowhere. He wasn't an awful coach by any means, but luck played a big role in his career.
he's a lock HOF....isn't he top ten wins all time?
I think people forget how well he did with a pathetic Jacksonville franchise...shtein I think sometimes people forget that he coached somewhere other than ny
and j not sure how you didn't have tons of respect before that presser but yes it was awesome
Coughlin is 12th at 170 wins. 7th in playoff wins. He's the only reason the Jags haven't sucked every year of their existence.
Bte, Reid is right behind Coughlin in both categories. He wins a SB he'll waddle right into canton.
QuoteNew York police are investigating Giants defensive tackle Jay Bromley after a woman said that he tried to sexually assault her and then struck her with his car while fleeing, according to multiple media reports.
Bromley, 23, interacted with the 26-year-old woman on Instagram. They went out together and then went to a Manhattan hotel, where Bromley got a room and they engaged in some physical activity. When Bromley attempted to engage in further sexual activity, she refused, a police source told ABC News.
Bromley left the hotel, and the woman followed him, demanding a ride home. She climbed on the roof of Bromley's car, but he kept driving and she fell off, injuring her leg and knee, according to the source.
The woman was taken to the hospital, where she made the allegations of assault and attempted sexual assault, the source said. A rape kit is being conducted and the police department's Special Victims Unit is investigating.
"In the criminal justice system, sexually based offenses are considered especially heinous. In New York city, the dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Special Victims Unit. These are their stories"
lolol
good one
http://www.si.com/nba/2016/02/24/jason-pierre-paul-sues-espn-adam-schefter-medical-records
There's something wrong with this but I just can't put my finger on it.
By sending photos of medical records, it reads to me like Schefter is pretty much caught red handed violating some kind of privacy law in some way. ESPN gonna pay.
Schefter saying Janoris Jenkins will sign with the Giants
Spent a lot of cash today but damn they've done well with the three defensive guys they signed
Olivier Vernon $40 million fully guaranteed at signing so he got a better deal than JJ Watt, Justin Houston.
The #Giants are done. Jerry Reese has now made 72 picks as GM. NEVER a trade down. 0-for-72. Simply amazing.
so he has more Super Bowls than trade downs?
Indeed
ODB trying to work through his anger about the loss:
https://vine.co/v/5vPT7WJ1vYU
Lolol
He was crying on the sidelines too
Christ, 20+ minutes on NFL Live dedicated to ODJ acting like a bitch. Tuesday in the NFL.
He says he's not having fun playing football anymore.
Maybe he should stop.
He should have been ejected from the Vikes game as well, for chest bumping the ref while yelling at him about a non-penalty.
I don't want to hear his woe is me shtein.
He's shown that he's easy to irritate on the field and defenders will push him and let him implode until he shows himself able to ignore them
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2016/10/giants_tackle_ereck_flowers_shoves_espn_reporter_i.html
That was his best block of the night.
Josh Brown about to be unemployed - or should be.
NFL security had to intervene at the pro bowl hotel a couple years ago to protect his wife from him
Eli gonna walk up to him and say "no more"?
was just reading that other than jacksonville who doesnt really count cause they go to london and also because they are jacksonville that the giants travel more than any team in the eastern half of the united states next season
They're also up against a higher than average number of teams coming off a bye, if I recall.
yeah four
Over the last 10 seasons fewer than 50% of the teams have a wining record coming off the bye. It's an overrated concept.
Quote from: Eagaholic on April 21, 2017, 03:38:56 PM
Over the last 10 seasons fewer than 50% of the teams have a wining record coming off the bye. It's an overrated concept.
Probably, but Reid won like 13 in a row after the bye so Eagles fans probably put more emphasis on it because it used to be a fairly reliable thing.
I remember thinking the Eagles were a shoo-in to beat the Patriots because of the bye week.
I believed in the Easter bunny then too.
DRC was suspended indefinitely today after a meeting with McAdoo. Dysfunction is suddenly exploding in this franchise under McAdoo, who may not be long for his job.
Just a glorious sports day for the Eagles and all the teams we hate.
I forget the specifics but didn't he have a somewhat related issue in Philly?
I forget the specifics but doesn't he have like ten kids?
We haven't done enough kicking the Giants while they're down. Let's maximize the enjoyment of this season.
Two Giants: McAdoo has lost support of team (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21342878/two-new-york-giants-say-head-coach-ben-mcadoo-lost-support-team)
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 09, 2017, 03:57:00 PM
We haven't done enough kicking the Giants while they're down. Let's maximize the enjoyment of this season.
Two Giants: McAdoo has lost support of team (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21342878/two-new-york-giants-say-head-coach-ben-mcadoo-lost-support-team)
I didn't click on the link but anyone who saw the game last week vs the Rams could tell the entire team completely gave up. I'll be surprised if he makes it through the season.
Santa Clara PD picking up where Die Hard left off. (http://deadsp.in/SZq7JZ0)
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classy
poor guy loses his shoe and he gets treated like that ?
QuoteSad to say, but this man had the most successful Sunday of anyone wearing a Giants jersey.
Lol
Quote from: smeags on November 15, 2017, 09:07:00 AM
poor guy loses his shoe and he gets treated like that ?
It's because the shoe is black
sneaker oppression is a new low.
Take a seat Eli
Someone explain to me why they are starting Geno Smith. It's not like he is their QB of the future or someone they need to evaluate for the starting job. Eli is not good, but a move still needs to make some sense.
The closest I can get to an answer is that Ben McAdoo is a horrifically bad head coach.
Good news, you got the right answer.
I'm sure Giants fans are looking forward to Geno magic:
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Quote from: QB Eagles on November 28, 2017, 05:42:45 PM
Someone explain to me why they are starting Geno Smith. It's not like he is their QB of the future or someone they need to evaluate for the starting job. Eli is not good, but a move still needs to make some sense.
The closest I can get to an answer is that Ben McAdoo is a horrifically bad head coach.
I've read suggestions that this decision goes all the way to Mara. Maybe the Giants are tanking the season to ensure they can draft Josh Rosen or trade down a little to pick a different QB like Darnold, maybe somebody else.
It's pretty clear that even if Eli is the starter next year, he'll be on the way out. He'll be 37 soon so it's time for them to look to the future. Oh and maybe McAdoo is a horrifically bad coach, too. ;D
I approve of this move. :-D
Quote from: EJ72 on November 29, 2017, 03:05:44 AM
It's pretty clear that even if Eli is the starter next year, he'll be on the way out. He'll be 37 soon so it's time for them to look to the future. Oh and maybe McAdoo is a horrifically bad coach, too. ;D
You think Garrett gets canned soon? It's been 8 seasons. That's an eternity in the NFL, especially for a coach with only one playoff win.
Sidenote: Never knew Garrett was from Abington.
the only thing i can come up with is the mcadoo/mara was desperate to move on from eli and this is what they came up with
its monumentally stupid pr wise and makes zero sense football wise.
Their year is over and there's no heir apparent who needs seasoning. Sitting Eli is a slap in the face after almost 15 years of service. Oh and two goddamn Super Bowl wins.
daddys boy gazillionaire doesnt get to play this week.....cry me a river
Eli is clearly one of the most overrated, lucky QBs of all time. The fact that he could make the HOF is horrible to me. That said, this is a ridiculously zesty way to treat a QB that won two championships for the franchise. More than that, he would give the Giants even a glimmer of hope of beating the Cowboys...and I'd love to see the Cowboys lose. Bullshtein move.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 29, 2017, 09:28:01 AM
daddys boy gazillionaire doesnt get to play this week.....cry me a river
If this was a taterskin player you'd be screaming like a stuck pig.
Quote from: Zanshin on November 29, 2017, 09:59:17 AM
Eli is clearly one of the most overrated, lucky QBs of all time. The fact that he could make the HOF is horrible to me.
Eli was clutch in the playoffs. He was overrated during the regular season but I'd take him over his brother in the playoffs. I agree he's not HOF worthy. I put him in the Flacco category. Both franchise QBs who lead their team to a SB with good defenses and clutch postseason performances.
I'll throw this out there: assuming you're a regular starter, you either get a Superbowl ring during your career or you get into the HOF at the end of your career. Which do you chose?
The ring.
Ring.
Obviously some players never achieve the ring through no fault of their own, and even more win it just by being lucky enough to be on the right franchise at the right time. HOF means a million times more for the quality of your career and how much you will be able to cash in on that career. If you sit back and look at it without emotion, HOF is way more important for you personally.
Still, the ultimate goal of playing a sport is to win the championship. Being a HOFer without winning a SB is like surrounding yourself with beautiful women who fawn over you, but never actually getting laid. Most of us would rather get action, even if we aren't proud of every aspect of how it happened. A normal football player is going to be haunted by the years of extraordinary effort they put in without ever winning the SB and being one part of something that was bigger than his individual performance. There are some guys who can make their peace with it, but it means letting go of a dream that drove their lives for decades. Most people can't do that too easily.
Quote from: Rome on November 29, 2017, 09:24:22 AM
Their year is over and there's no heir apparent who needs seasoning. Sitting Eli is a slap in the face after almost 15 years of service. Oh and two goddamn Super Bowl wins.
My thoughts exactly. It's unlike them to do this to a player of Eli's caliber. I heard that at first they wanted to split time between the two but Eli stepped in and said basically, what for? The streak? Forget it if you want to play Geno then start him.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 29, 2017, 12:11:41 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 29, 2017, 10:51:30 AM
The ring.
especially because the NFL HOF is a joke
I was thinking the ring will fetch more at a pawn shop than a blazer, but I like your answer too.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 29, 2017, 12:23:10 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 29, 2017, 12:11:41 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 29, 2017, 10:51:30 AM
The ring.
especially because the NFL HOF is a joke
I was thinking the ring will fetch more at a pawn shop than a blazer, but I like your answer too.
Do you mind waiting around for a bit while I call in an expert?
An expert in pawning rings? I thought you weren't talking to your ex.
He never married her, silly.
I wish we had an overrated QB who won us two Super Bowls.
overrated isnt the word.....better to say he wasnt as good as some of his peers who didnt win rings...but yeah hes better than an eagle qb ever
I don't know. I put him in that "game manager" category. With pieces around him, he did what it took to win when when it counted, all the while looking like a doofus deer in headlights. I give him credit for not falling apart in some big spots. If he was on Eagles teams during his tenure, I don't think they'd have necessarily won championships. I just don't think he was ever a huge difference-maker. Maybe I'm biased because I live in Giant country....
I think Eli has been a player with very long (several game +) streaks of good and bad, and has also been very good late in games with coming back. Put those two together for enough seasons and sometimes the stars will align for you.
I'll put it this way, at no point was he ever at the top of my wish list as dream QB of the Eagles.
Quote from: Zanshin on November 29, 2017, 02:54:03 PM
I don't know. I put him in that "game manager" category. With pieces around him, he did what it took to win when when it counted, all the while looking like a doofus deer in headlights. I give him credit for not falling apart in some big spots. If he was on Eagles teams during his tenure, I don't think they'd have necessarily won championships. I just don't think he was ever a huge difference-maker. Maybe I'm biased because I live in Giant country....
There are some great pics out there of ole' Eli, slack jawed, mouth agape, hang lip dangling, only thing missing is a string of drool running off his chin.
If you want to try out a rookie to see what he's going to give you, sure go ahead and do that. But Geno Smith, though? You want to bench the guy that was okay and healthy long enough to Magoo his way into beating Tom Brady twice for Geno Smith? What, was Tebow busy?
Quote from: Zanshin on November 29, 2017, 02:54:03 PM
I don't know. I put him in that "game manager" category.
right now....not his career...hes 7th all time in yards and touch downs...he also was in the top ten in yards per complete and yards per attempt numerous times...the all time numbers are due partially to longevity and era but all told you dont do all that and be a game manager....he wasnt a gunslinger or anything but he was far from a game manager...he was right in the middle somewhere
So he was a gun manager. Or maybe a game slinger.
It now seems like kind of a fleshpop move by the Giants to have not traded him a few weeks ago
I think it's all about McAdoo grasping at straws now to save his job under the guise of preparing for the future.
McAdoo to be fired as soon as tomorrow, per Schefter.
Damn
It'd be nice if they could delay it a couple of weeks.
I hate Eli, but I hope he starts today. If I was him, I would have already pulled a Favre and demanded a release
Is this the face of a guy who would throw a tantrum because he doesn't want to be part of a particular franchise?
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McAdoo and Reese have been whacked
I have a feeling that McDaniels is going to be the HC there
Eli's back. Should have canned McAdoo before the game.
They've managed to outclown Washington this year. That's pretty impressive.
Quote from: General_Failure on December 06, 2017, 05:41:03 PM
They've managed to outclown Washington this year. That's pretty impressive.
I think Jerry already managed to do that also.
Landon Collins called Eli Apple a cancer in the locker room
Don't think I ever recall a teammate doing that publicly.
Saying shtein like that to the media is kinda cancerous too
Pat Shurmur, head coach
At least we know the Eagles can adequately defend their offense.
Maybe the gayest (think adjective not homophobic slur) commercial ever. Giants fans loved it. If this was Wentz and a receiver I'd farging cringe
https://youtu.be/KUoD-gPDahw
Totally feel the same way. I really didn't need to know that Manning dances exactly like he looks he would dance. And there isn't anything that OBJ does that ISN'T annoying.
Well, he gets injured. That's annoying insofar as we have to hear about it but otherwise, I'm okay with it.
True. I don't typically wish ill on anyone, but I was cool with that.
He's an extremely talented receiver. His circus catches amaze me.
That doesn't mean shtein compared to having a good team. It's not a particularly important position, once you have a few guys capable of getting open. Look at all the great WRs on teams where their talents go wasted.
Or ask the two WRs who just got selected for the HOF who never won Super Bowls, and who thought very highly of their own physical abilities and ignored the teammate part of the job.
That commercial was great. We were all waiting for the leap here.
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the giants are rolling with a pat shurmur-mike shula offensive brain trust and im pretty stoked about that
its gonna be crazy in the copy cat league that the nfl is how many teams go to a full rpo based offense next year...foles showed at least for a playoff run that you dont have to be carson wentz or russell wilson to go full bore with it....so now its gonna be on
cause of that i wouldnt mind the eagles looking at darrell bevel as OC
Nate Solder - 4 yr/$62M with $35M guaranteed. Now the highest paid O-lineman in the NFL.
Traded JPP to the Bucs for picks. Can't quite put my finger on why the Giants would hand him over to the Bucs.
Does he go peg leg or eye patch to complete the look?
Quote from: AO1 on March 22, 2018, 11:25:55 AM
Traded JPP to the Bucs for picks. Can't quite put my finger on why the Giants would hand him over to the Bucs.
They didn't have the same level of attachment to JPP without his old coaches stumping for him.
They dropped him faster than a firecracker.
Definitely the most explosive deal this offseason.
JPP wanted to get off a team with double digit losses. Can't say I blame him. It was a joint decision and he had a hand in it.
Just figured we should mock at least a bit about the Odell situation. So much drama. How much does it suck for the Giants to be in this situation...Dynamic, injury-prone WR with significant off-field questions trying to force his way to be paid franchise QB-type money in the last year of his deal. In today's NFL, I just don't see WR being the sole difference-maker to getting a championship. A factor, sure. But if you're paying him ultra top dollar and a QB top dollar, can you field a viable championship team? That's a tough sell for a guy who will necessarily touch the ball a handful of times a game...and who knows exactly what kind of player he'd be after getting that kind of contract? Talented as he is, I'd never want the guy on the team all things considered. And the Giants want two first rounders for the headache? Yeah, okay. TO was less of a headache, honestly.
he's a drama queen but does he really have off-field problems? other than possibly being on snapchat smoking a J?
Quote from: phattymatty on March 29, 2018, 10:28:57 AM
he's a drama queen but does he really have off-field problems? other than possibly being on snapchat smoking a J?
I meant PR problems, more than anything. Perception/reality and all that.
He is simultaneously the best WR and absolutely not worth whatever he is going to be paid. Not because of his attitude or anything, but just because it's too much to invest into one WR. That's why the Rams rumor makes so much sense. They can afford to overpay in the short term because of the rookie contract QB, and that's a situation where he could legitimately be the difference maker. We gotta hope that doesn't happen.
If he stays on the Giants, he's just a sinkhole of cash, which is what they need to rebuild.
Quote from: QB Eagles on March 29, 2018, 10:32:11 AM
He is simultaneously the best WR and absolutely not worth whatever he is going to be paid. Not because of his attitude or anything, but just because it's too much to invest into one WR. That's why the Rams rumor makes so much sense. They can afford to overpay in the short term because of the rookie contract QB, and that's a situation where he could legitimately be the difference maker. We gotta hope that doesn't happen.
If he stays on the Giants, he's just a sinkhole of cash, which is what they need to rebuild.
Accurate. I'd rather have him on the Giants eating up their cap and shteinting in their locker room. But I'm not sure it totally makes sense for the Rams. They've made a lot of moves for a lot talent with a year left; some combination of those guys are going to have to get paid. I get the "win now" thing they're going for, but if they keep trading, they're going to lose these guys, not have any picks, and have nothing to show for it if they don't win it all this year. It's pretty interesting to watch.
Let's not forget that he's been an outright liability on the field at times. His mental instability makes him easy to ruffle and provoke, his antics are bad for coaches and other teamates, he draws idiotic penalties that hurt the team.
You don't have to be a choirboy, but you can't be a reality teevee drama show and that's what this kid is.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 29, 2018, 11:08:36 AM
Let's not forget that he's been an outright liability on the field at times. His mental instability makes him easy to ruffle and provoke, his antics are bad for coaches and other teamates, he draws idiotic penalties that hurt the team.
You don't have to be a choirboy, but you can't be a reality teevee drama show and that's what this kid is.
This^^^^ is where I'm at. I don't really care what athletes do off the field as long as they're not harming others. But he's emotionally unstable and it shows on the field and on the sidelines.
He seems to want to go to the Rams, and the Rams are in "farg you we're getting that ring" mode, so that would probably be a win/win trade for both teams if it were to happen.
Quote from: General_Failure on March 29, 2018, 12:10:01 PM
....Rams are in "farg you we're getting that ring" mode.....
taterskins were in that mode forever and won nothing. Just doesn't typically work for one reason or another. It'll be interesting to watch it unfold. I mean, the odds of me even mentioning the Rams in the offseason says something. They're looking to get butts in the those LA seats.
...also, it's pretty clear he wants to go to whomever he thinks will give him the biggest shteinload of money.
watch 74 and be thankful for Peters
https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/985950763217190912
That looks goofy. I like how he finishes off his 'play' with his head down like he was 'trying so hard'. lmao
In all fairness he wasn't supposed to block the DE, just the LB he badly missed on. And he does have a mean game of tag.
giants forfeited a third rounder in 2019 to take a guy in the supplemental draft to be their slot corner....hes is now out for the year from a weird camp injury really before full camp even started
to be fair the guy was a projected first rounder next year so they didnt give up a ton cept that hes now out and potentially has a suspect shoulder going forward
oh and william gay might now be the leader for their slot corner position
https://twitter.com/The_Bob_Miller/status/1028023420037021697
OBJ got caked off
They could hardly do anything else, but he's played his best football.
They are a dumpster fire.
Just lost on a muffed punt.
Welcome to another year of sucking!
i cant stop watching this....lol
https://twitter.com/FBLRave/status/1039488752832397316
That's some Charlie Chaplin shtein.
He was flagged for that I hope?
Eli is terrible.
63 yard fg to win...lol
Sad day for everyone who enjoys watching Eli getting blown up.
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1049388373759197186
https://twitter.com/CBSNewYork/status/1054783795172425728
They traded snacks to Detroit for a 5th. That's highway robbery by the Lions.
the Giants are terrible
Quote from: Diomedes on October 28, 2018, 03:10:31 PM
the Giants are terrible
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New York Giants backup quarterback Kyle Lauletta -- who many fans hoped to see in the starting lineup next week -- was arrested in Weehawken Tuesday morning while driving to the team's practice facility in East Rutherford.
Sources in Weehawken with knowledge of the incident said the 23-year-old was trying to make a right turn from the wrong lane to get to Route 495 West, and was directed to keep going straight. Lauletta, driving a Jaguar, made the right turn and nearly ran over the officer directing traffic. He was stopped by another officer at the end of the on-ramp.
One of the sources said that Lauletta did the same thing yesterday morning, but he was not stopped. Police did see his license plate and he is being issued two summonses in the mail, the source said.
OBJ traded to the Browns
LOL. Ravens fans are going to be howling. Already plenty of "..the Browns may be the best team, most stable team in the division.." talk going on.
QuoteIan Rapoport
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Holy shteinburgers.
The Browns might be fun to watch for the first time since... Bernie Kosar?
https://twitter.com/Giants/status/1080506244811669506
eagles already have 4 wins and the schedule hasnt come out
https://twitter.com/WIBWTyler/status/1122537456614760448
QuoteNot only did Giants WR Sterling Shepard dislocate his thumb at Thursday's practice, but WR Corey Coleman also tore his ACL. Brutal.
At least they have Odell.
If I'm Alan Hurns, I'm wishing I had waited just one more day before signing with Miami. Could likely have stuck the Giants for at least $250k more than he got yesterday.
can you do the process thing in the NFL?
Yes, but you have to hire Hue Jackson.
Could go in a bunch of different threads but I like to pour it on: Golden Tate facing a 4 game suspension for Peds
Too bad the Eagles don't play them until Week 14. The Giants WRs on Week 1 might be so bad that even the Eagles CBs could cover them.
Does it really matter whether Eli is targeting Golden Tate or Daniel Jones when he throws interceptions?
no
even an injured Sidney Jones can handle that
One of the Eagles/Giants game will still come down to the last minute for no good reason.
Eli will look like ass all year and then throw 4TDs against them.
division games in the nfl are always weird but they handled the giants twice last year and play them late this year when theyll be in super tank mode
if theres one thing not to wallow in fake misery about its this
As strangely loyal as they've been up to now, I don't think they are blind. I don't expect Eli to start either Eagle game unless Jones is an all-time bust (which admittedly seems possible).
Tate lost his appeal. Will miss first four games of the season.
In the interest of keeping everything in one place:
NYG WRs this off-season:
Golden Tate: 4 game suspension
Sterling Shepard - broken left thumb, but partial practice participant, wearing splint..should play Week One
Corey Coleman - torn ACL, out for year
Amba Etta-Tawo - torn Achilles, out for year
Darius Slayton - hamstring, started camp on PUP, just started practicing Monday of this week
Their other WRs: Cody Latimore, Bennie Fowler, Alonzo Russell, TJ Jones, DeMari Scott, Alex Wesley.
I hear Freddie Mitchell's available.
What's Plaxico up to?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 13, 2019, 09:44:47 PM
What's Plaxico up to?
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In that case...maybe Dez?
https://twitter.com/jemelehill/status/1172938903222771713
Eli is out.
Surprised they did it this quick.
Just wait until they trade him to Pittsburgh.
https://twitter.com/wingoz/status/1173913265732247552
The reporters and talking heads are balls deep on Eli for how he's handling this. My fave is the ones who are slobbering over his parents for raising such a nice fella.
Gimme a break.
Eli's the kind of strong, quiet leader who wouldn't pout and whine until he got what he wanted.
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https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1176177020855902210
giants at new england this week with no saquan, engram, or sterling shepard. bloodbath.
Mike Hunt sighting.
Shurmur out.
Looks like it's Joe Judge
The Patriots WR coach after a year where their WRs were so bad they brought in two headcases out of desperation?
Peckerhead Eli retired
Giants are cutting their hit-and-run kicker, don't have another on the roster.
He sucked anyway, but it's fun to laugh at them.
Oh look.. They signed one already. Chandler Catanzaro. Never heard of him.
He sucks.
Missed alot of kiicks for Arizona and the Jets
Giants 2019 1st round pick Deandre Baker formally charged with 4 counts of robbery with a firearm.
Quote...Baker is accused of pulling a gun at the house party where gambling was taking place and, with accomplices, robbing four men of cash and jewelry: $12,400 in cash and $61,100 in watches, to be exact, per the original arrest warrant.
Baker also allegedly told one of his accomplices to shoot one of the alleged victims, though his accomplice did not shoot
Along with Guice, nice to see 2 in division rivals loose high draft picks in the same day. Except of course that it would be unsurprising to see dallas try to sign either of them.
high school harry joe judge thinking hes coaching lansdale catholic, making his team run laps when they mess up
kinda miss the giants being good, its more fun when they are
QuoteThe NFL takes great care to certify any and all playing surfaces before each game. Notwithstanding those efforts, concerns have emerged regarding the turf at MetLife Stadium in the aftermath of multiple lower-leg injuries suffered by members of the San Francisco 49ers.
Per a league source, the NFL's field operations department will take a closer look at the situation based on the concerns raised by the 49ers.
https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/1320030445505966081
Looks like Jones got tripped up again.
Looks like Saquan was just showing Jones his technique of how to put one foot down and THEN the other.
I'm not following closely enough to have a read on it, maybe someone here can say: What the farg is up with Golden Tate? His wife is online arguing that he's getting open and he did something--I don't know what--during their last game about not getting the ball? Is this guy a shteinhead?
I haven't paid close attention either - but yeah, that's the gist.
Interesting.
https://twitter.com/jasonrmcintyre/status/1329115322398302208 21
And then this
https://twitter.com/mikegarafolo/status/1329118424090497026 21
the clapper has covid
Signed Golladay
I guess this is as good a place as any to put this... Apparently, Strahan finally got "the procedure."
https://twitter.com/michaelstrahan/status/1376977826029637632
:=) --> ;D
Edit: ... unless it is an April Fool's Day setup... :sly :paranoid
https://twitter.com/alecmacgillis/status/1394316281608876036 21
What's more likely:
* One of the largest corporations on Earth decides where to site its headquarters based on an exec being a NY Giants fan
* A writer makes a sensationalistic NY vs Philly claim in a book and every Philly website posts it for the inferiority complex clicks
normally i would agree but brad stone couldnt be less interested in philly or clicks nor could alec macgillis
also it basically admits right in the tweet that it had little to nothing to do with the decision
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one million percent tho the philly media and blogs are gonna run with this HARD
its the kind of victimization shtein philly people eat up but i dont care what needed to happen to get hq2 to not come here
the last thing this city needs is an influx of yuppie white people and their craft beer hipster bullshtein driving up housing prices
They're doing that in the burbs. Phoenixville has more goddamn breweries and distilleries than necessary.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 18, 2021, 08:38:39 PM
They're doing that in the burbs. Phoenixville has more goddamn breweries and distilleries than necessary.
Hell, Honey Brook has a country club and Morgantown has a casino. That's something I never thought I'd see growing up on the fringes of Amish country.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 18, 2021, 08:38:39 PM
They're doing that in the burbs. Phoenixville has more goddamn breweries and distilleries than necessary.
hold up...are you complaining that there are too
many breweries somewhere?
Not necessarily but it's still amazing to me that every time I go home there's more that have popped up. It's crazy to me how much the town has changed from when I was a young buck living there. The breweries just happen to bring the yuppies
https://twitter.com/MattLombardoNFL/status/1422631528509714435
Buncha fargin dummies.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2021, 07:38:24 AM
Not necessarily but it's still amazing to me that every time I go home there's more that have popped up. It's crazy to me how much the town has changed from when I was a young buck living there. The breweries just happen to bring the yuppies
You're surprised that drinking is the only thing to do where you come from?
Now that's funny.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2021, 07:38:24 AM
Not necessarily but it's still amazing to me that every time I go home there's more that have popped up. It's crazy to me how much the town has changed from when I was a young buck living there. The breweries just happen to bring the yuppies
You're surprised that drinking is the only thing to do where you come from?
Now that's funny.
Really funny.
Double funny even.
Nice work by the Giants almost getting their POS quarterback maimed.
New Jersey Giants camp appears to be driving vets to quit
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31971960/source-new-york-giants-ol-zach-fulton-team-3rd-player-retire-4-days
Bc Joe Judge thinks he's at some high school camp
sirianni is pretty sad sometimes doing his ted lasso routine but at least hes not doing junction boys cosplay thinking this is east texas 2 a days
The Giants are going to suck this year.
https://twitter.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1437401296533954565
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DP7-kfsXKE
Joe Judge makes grown ass men run laps in practice for mistakes like false start?
lol
Blake Martinez torn ACL
Kadarius Toney threw a sucker punch (at a man wearing a helmet,) missed, and was ejected.
Just heard on Gargano that Jason Garrett was fired as OC.
Thoughts and prayers
Next white retread Up!
Freddie Kitchens will be calling the plays on Sunday
Line should be -10 Birds by then
Sterling Shepard, torn Achilles
NYG gonna have two extremely early picks
atlanta sucks something raw
3 different TODs inside the 5
Daniel Jones done for the year. Gonna be extra spicy when the Eagles lose to New York on a short week after a loss to the Racists tonight.
eagles always gonna eagle
Good God! You have to listen to Joe Judge's Post-game presser yesterday. What a complete jack ass. There is no bigger knucklehead in the league. Joe Meathead.
Slaytons TD today was the first one for a Giants WR since Oct 24
Also despite paying Golladay $70m and drafting Toney neither scored a TD all season
And finally DeVonta outscored the entire Giants WR corps
I'm stealing that to send to a boomer Giants friend
Hope he enjoys it!
Agreed, good stuff J. I too have an obnoxious friend from Long Island who still won't shut up about the Nate Sudfeld Bowl last year. I remind him if it was NYG rolling over and it kept the Cowboys or Birds out he'd demand a ticker tape parade down Broadway.
Lol tell your buddy what Joey J did today on that qb sneak on third and nine from his four was more egregious than the Sudfeld stuff last season
Love seeing the Jints fall into the dregs of the NFL
In sad news for the rest of the NFC East, the Giants fired Joe Judge.
Damn.
Media and fan pressure got to Mara.
Word is, they'll hire a GM first, let the GM hire a coach.
As it should be.
This hire a coach and then a GM isn't bright
I'm sure they'll find some way to get it wrong.
Mike Kafka is their new OC.
Jim Schwartz being interviewed for their open DC position.
From Twitter
Quotethe most expensive WR room in 2022?
the New York Giants, at $40,152,615
the fewest TDs by a WR room in 2021?
the New York Giants, at 5 TDs
not only was it the fewest in 2021
it was the fewest by any WR room since 2017
and now they're the most expensive WR room in the NFL
I didn't get the sense that their WRs were the problem in the passing touchdown stats.
In any case the wr room has plenty of room for improvement. And they are taking up too much cap room. One receiver in the wide receiver room thinks he may be traded but it's unclear if it's directly from the wr room or rumor.
Why it's a WR room but an RB stable?
Pet peeve
Calling position groups "wr room" etc
Quote from: Diomedes on April 13, 2022, 07:43:15 PM
Why it's a WR room but an RB stable?
History has shown that WRs aren't entirely stable.
Bradberry cut. He was due $21M this year....they take a hit of roughly half that in dead money, whatever that is, I'm just looking at pretty colors, and they get a cap savings for this year of roughly half.
Some other team gets a good CB....but, for how much? He gonna be expensive, I would imagine.
Howie should make the call
Blake Martinez cut
Mike Kafka is their playcaller
That's an upgrade.
Very early returns, but they might be the worst team in the NFL
ACL tear for Shepard. Not surprising to anyone who saw it. Those non contact knee grabs are always brutal. Final play of the game too.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 11, 2022, 05:28:36 PM
Very early returns, but they might be the worst team in the NFL
haha you might still be right but looked like they were gonna be 3-0 through 2 1/2 games.
I'm not backing off that yet. They farging suck. Could have lost all their games, and it's been pure creampuffs, two of them at home.
Houston, Seattle, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Denver also in the mix. Chicago and Denver have two wins also.
Think the NFC South teams and IND are just competent enough to be second tier.
They look more like the Giants we expected today.
It's hard to stop MVP Candidate Geno Smith.
Xavier McKinney farged his hand up riding an ATV in Cabo during the bye. Giants put him on their Non Footballl Injury list. He's been their starter all season.
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That sucks.
I like this move for the Raiders. Declining player, lengthy contract.
Yikes if he's healthy and head on straight BUT correct, declining player.
Way too much hype about this Giants GM. Fans are acting like a guy who lands a 5/10 after years of dating pigs. Daboll is the truth but this team's players are nothing special, at least not yet.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 14, 2023, 03:21:20 PM
That sucks.
hes 31, cant stay healthy, was acquired for nothing and last good season came during the covid year
who exactly does this suck for
Seems there's been some sentiment among Giants that they are underdogs in the division, under the radar and don't get any respect - and that's exactly how they like it. Gotta compliment them on tonight's game plan.
Never put much into week one but this was more about how awful, and awful is an understatement, the Giants looked.
Saquon looked seriously injured
That looked bad.
Reportedly a mild sprain but an MRI is coming tomorrow
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2023, 09:55:54 PMReportedly a mild sprain but an MRI is coming tomorrow
High ankle sprain although supposedly a not very severe one.
Probably more important from a fantasy standpoint since this Giants team is bad with or without Barkley.
Buyer remorse for the GMen and their fans on that Danny Jones contract I imagine
He's just not the guy. That's been clear forever.
Through five games
1-4
And they've had a lead for a grand total of 19 seconds
You're the coach, and you have to win an NFL game in an alternate universe. Your quarterbacks are Howell and Jones. Who do you start?
Howell. By a smidge.
Me too.
Traded for Brian Burns. New deal 5 years $150 million. Nice move
Huge move there
Jack Stoll will sign a 1 yr deal with NY.
https://twitter.com/jasrifootball/status/1783976622867243332
Janiel Dones
dude is a football player not a talker
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1791107432674132199
those are quite buttery
Yeah I don't hate them.
Listen, NOTHING compares to those god awful throwbacks the birds wore in 1994 when they played the Packers and the yellow, baby blue unis from what 07, 08 vs Lions? Delaware Blue Hens on acid. I'll never critique any teams throwbacks after those two nightmares.
lol
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/giants/2024/11/22/daniel-jones-released-new-york-giants-benched-quarterback/76497838007/
Really hoping the pizza delivery kid from nj can give the Cowboys another L
Sure, but what if Dallas signs him and he goes off in a single revenge game, earning him another hundred million dollar contract, and goes back to being awful.
You're talking about Jones. I would also be down for that. Yes.
But this week, I want the kid from jersey with the caricature of a player's agent clown in tow to blow through Dallas like a cold desert gale.
Need organizations like the Giants to put it into perspective Birds, Bums ain't so bad with some of their decisions. Sixers are on another level of broken.
Signed Russell Wilson to a 1 year deal
Hilariously awful
I'm a little puzzled by the Giants. I can't be the only one.
If Schoen and Daboll are in win now or be fired they have hitched their wagon to Jameis and Russ. Might as well just pack up their offices now.
they are trying to find some baseline competency without sacrificing whatever future they might have. its really a hopeless place to be because a 3/4 season gets them fired and a 7/8 season would be mighty impressive but would get them stuck in neutral.
womp womp