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The Astros' magic number is 2. My prediction is that both teams go 1-1 in these final two games, most likely the Phillies will win tonight and lose tomorrow, and the Astros will lose tonight and win tomorrow.
Just to give us all some false hope.
Nothing like setting things up to finally go in you favor, then choking like dogs to Hector Corrasco.
A new thread with two games to go?
Ummm... okay.
:-D
Must keep threads under 20 pages. You know, message board stuff. :paranoid
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Alfonos Marquez umping the game :boom
Wow, does the media really love chugging NY-Bostons meatcicle enough? I bet its Sunday Night baseball tomorrow too.
Edit- obviously its on, just at 1. On espn.
4-0 Phils :yay
Go Cubbies! :evil :evil :evil
1-0 Astros on another Biggio HR :boom
4-1 after 1
4-2 :boom
The goddamn motherfarging game is blacked out on MLB.TV.
:boom
Cubs tied it at 1.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on October 01, 2005, 05:06:03 PM
The goddamn motherfarging game is blacked out on MLB.TV.
:boom
None of the MLB games are working on Directv. The schedule says this game and teh Stros/Cubs game is a 4:05 (Western time) start. >:(
7-2 Phillies.
:o
3-1 Astros over Cubs.
Phillies can hold on to this score, they can rest up Wagner and Urbina for tommorrow. Just what we needed.
Cubs have had some late magic the two days before, hopefully we can see it again.
Final
Houston Astros: 3
Chicago Cubs: 1
Greg Maddux will get many a dollar if he pitches good
Phils win 8-4 and Charlie used Madson, Fultz, Urbina AND Wagner in 2 innings... :boom
Looks like tomorrow's game is on ESPN2 for the out-of-the-area people...
Tickets for possible one game playoff will be regular season prices. Game will either be at 4 or at 7/8, depending what Red Sox do. I think they'll win tommorrow, making the Phillies/Astros game the only game that day, so it would be at night.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on October 01, 2005, 11:04:30 AM
A new thread with two games to go?
Ummm... okay.
:-D
what rome, you dont think the PHillies are gonna win the world series!!! you bastich! !#@%*@&%@
:-D
I just heard Burrell took strike three looking - again - with the bases loaded and no outs in the first. :boom Howard comes up and hits a three run double. What ever happens from here on in Burrell must go.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 01, 2005, 10:40:58 PM
I just heard Burrell took strike three looking - again - with the bases loaded and no outs in the first. :boom Howard comes up and hits a three run double. What ever happens from here on in Burrell must go.
Burrell leads the team in RBIs. ::)
Burrell was been good. Just this past couple of weeks he's been striking out like 3 times a game.
Hey, they are in it during the last day of the season. Thats better than anything Bowa did, and the best since 93. I think I'm gonna go to the Astros game if it comes down to that. Should be a really hectic sunday. Baseball, football all at the same time. But thats why god invented the remote.
He has been good this year...but his taking called 3rd strikes in clutch situations lately are really pissing me the hell off.
Yo Pat...put the farging ball in play, pansy!
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE beat the Azzholes, Maddux.
I just heard Burrell took strike three looking - again - with the bases loaded and no outs in the first. Howard comes up and hits a three run double. What ever happens from here on in Burrell must go
i agree...hes a dog...he makes it hard to even watch the team play...sickening is what he is
Well, it all comes down to this. I can say that for the first time in recent memory, I'll be more focused on what the Phillies do on a Sunday in autumn than what the Eagles do.
If the Astros win, so be it, but I'd really like to see the Phillies take this last game. They have their best starter out there with all the chips in the center of the table.
Just win it, dammit.
:-\
you'd think the team with the 2nd highest payroll in the NL would at least make the playoffs.
what a sham. :boo
Quote from: mhunt on October 02, 2005, 08:21:01 AM
you'd think the team with the 2nd highest payroll in the NL would at least make the playoffs.
what a sham. :boo
:-D
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 01, 2005, 10:42:05 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on October 01, 2005, 10:40:58 PM
I just heard Burrell took strike three looking - again - with the bases loaded and no outs in the first. :boom Howard comes up and hits a three run double. What ever happens from here on in Burrell must go.
Burrell leads the team in RBIs. ::)
and strikeouts
by a mile
::)
Quote"It's fourth and 26 and we need to get it," said bench coach Gary Varsho, who has a knack for seeing the big picture in football terms that Philadelphians understand. "We need to get it, and we need someone else to help us."
:-D
Won't it be funny if they manage to tie the Astros today and then lose to them tomorrow? Are all of you going to hurl yourselves into traffic?
I can say that for the first time in recent memory, I'll be more focused on what the Phillies do on a Sunday in autumn than what the Eagles do
yeah its weird isnt it...im even going to the game risking missing some or all of the eagles first half
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 02, 2005, 10:18:20 AM
I can say that for the first time in recent memory, I'll be more focused on what the Phillies do on a Sunday in autumn than what the Eagles do
yeah its weird isnt it...im even going to the game risking missing some or all of the eagles first half
Making the drive down there?
Article in the paper today was telling fans to take the train or drive the couple of hours down there to cheer them on. Seemed like a HUGE Philly crowd there last night. Have fun. If they lose, be comforted by the fact that you will be blamed for putting a jinx on them. :evil
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on October 02, 2005, 08:11:13 AM
Well, it all comes down to this. I can say that for the first time in recent memory, I'll be more focused on what the Phillies do on a Sunday in autumn than what the Eagles do.
Blasphemy.
If they lose, be comforted by the fact that you will be blamed for putting a jinx on them
no good...i was there for the first two games and they won
decent crowd yesterday but lower than i would have liked to see...nothing compared to say camden yards when they play there
where in the paper is the story about going down to catch the game
edit: found it in saliburys piece
Kinda weird that our season is in the hands of Greg Maddux. I'm sorry, Greg, for hating you all those years.
I can't even imagine a one game playoff tomorrow at CBP. Unreal.
Game would be at 4 on monday, on espn. I figure they will blow a 4-0 lead or something and then we'll all be jumping off the Ben Franklin or something. Typical Phillies.
Whitman for me. That way I can look directly at CBP and curse Ed Wade while I'm lunging to my death.
Man if they get to a playoff game against Houston, I think that might save Wade's job. Only a world series should, or actually he shouldn't even have a job, but at this point.....I don't think they'll make the change. Monty and his silent partners are so out of touch with everything. The only thing that can make them think differentley is the $20 mil loss in revenue from attendance.
So...I think were lookin at three options:
1) Wade fired
2) Wade forced to make a big trade/signing to put spark back into team
3) Same offseason as usual, minor additions to "core"
#3! #3!!
Quote from: MDS on October 02, 2005, 11:18:06 AM
Man if they get to a playoff game against Houston, I think that might save Wade's job. Only a world series should, or actually he shouldn't even have a job, but at this point.....I don't think they'll make the change. Monty and his silent partners are so out of touch with everything. The only thing that can make them think differentley is the $20 mil loss in revenue from attendance.
So...I think were lookin at three options:
1) Wade fired
2) Wade forced to make a big trade/signing to put spark back into team
3) Same offseason as usual, minor additions to "core"
#3! #3!!
It'll be either #3, or #2, but in the case of #2 the trade will turn out to be bad.
Pat Burrell for Russ Ortiz :-D :paranoid
One of the dudes in the Inky said that the Phils might look to deal Burrell and/or Abreu...he mentioned Burrell to ARZ because Moorad the CEO is Patty's old agent.
Ok, enough negativity. Live in the moment and go put your goddamn Maddux jersey's on.
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Where is that Bartman dude? I want to make him an offer. If the Cubs and Phillies win today, I will pick up his bar tabs and give him a nice place to live in for the next year.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 02, 2005, 11:26:08 AM
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:-D Like that will ever happen
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on October 02, 2005, 08:11:13 AM
I can say that for the first time in recent memory, I'll be more focused on what the Phillies do on a Sunday in autumn than what the Eagles do.
That is farging pathetic. Easily the worst thing I've heard anyone say in a while. Kill yourself.
Biggest game of the season and our $12 million catcher isn't in the lineup. :-D
No Preston Wilson for DC, but Jose Guillen is in the lineup.
I'm glad Lieby isn't catching Lieber.
The Pratt - Lieber battery is good.
I'd start Pratt tomorrow too.
Loserthal will start tommorrow. God damnit I dont trust freakin Padilla in a 1 game playoff. The dude is nuts.
It's El Loco or Brito/Tejeda...
Just pray that he has his unhittable stuff.
I'm glad we'll see Backe though. Howard will eat his children.
Backe's good. Obviously, better to see him than Oswalt Pettitte Clemens.
Were 0 for the last 12 against Houston, including 3 rediculous games that we lost. There is something weird going on when we play the Astros, like something bigger than baseball is forcing us to lose these games. It's sick that it happens against the same team all the time. No better to fix that than tommorrow.....but then again, those types of stories don't exactly happen in Philadelphia.
Good news: Phils up 4-0 in the 5th inning. :yay
Bad news: Astros up 2-0 in the 3rd. :boom
Halfway through the Astros game, they are still up 2-0.
3-0 Astros
5-3 Phils
3-1 Astros
Astros hanging to 3-2 lead.
Philths still up 5-3.
Cubbies tie it up at 3-3. :yay
Check that 4-3 Cubbies.
Quote from: NGM on October 02, 2005, 03:43:38 PM
Check that 4-3 Cubbies.
:yay GO CUBBIES!
Still 5-3 Phils, top 8th.
Jason Lane homers, 4-4 in Houston.
5 - 4 Houston.
Make that 6-4.
Mother Farger.
Cubbies have three more outs to get some runs. Bottom of their order, too.
:'( :'( :'(
Might as well lock this thread. The inevitable has occurred.
Season over. :'(
Astros win. :boom
ONE FREAKING GAME... That's all the Phillies had to beat Houston this year. Another year that our head-to-head losses come back to bite us in the rear.
Good luck, Astros, you earned it.
Thanks for at least making it interesting. :yay
Now I have until April to dwell over Urbina's performance last Tuesday night against the Mets.
Aloha means Goodbye!
Farg the Phillies and the Eagles. They love to provide you with your annual dose of heart break.
Lidge said farging on TV. Only the word that gets converted to farg. :-D
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Losers. I dont care. No playoffs. Massive dissapointment.
Quote from: Dillen37 on October 02, 2005, 04:53:41 PM
Lidge said farging on TV. Only the word that gets converted to farg. :-D
So did about 300,000 people in the greater Philadelphia area.
For the first time, I just got that same awful feeling that I had when Joe Carter hit the homerun. :'(
"There's always next year"
Quote from: Eagles76ersFan on October 02, 2005, 04:59:11 PM
For the first time, I just got that same awful feeling that I had when Joe Carter hit the homerun. :'(
Really? Those guys were lovable overachievers. This squad is, mostly, a bunch of underachievers. Frankly, I'd rather the Eagles win today than the Cubs. Unfortunately it looks like I might not get either.
Well time to lock this puppy up and move on to the offseason.
2 good things about the season being over:
1) No more Wheels
2) No more Marzano
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 02, 2005, 05:02:15 PM
Quote from: Eagles76ersFan on October 02, 2005, 04:59:11 PM
For the first time, I just got that same awful feeling that I had when Joe Carter hit the homerun. :'(
Really? Those guys were lovable overachievers. This squad is, mostly, a bunch of underachievers. Frankly, I'd rather the Eagles win today than the Cubs. Unfortunately it looks like I might not get either.
Without a doubt, I would of rather had the Eagles lose today and the Cubs win. I hate Charlie Manuel, I hate Ed Wade, and I even hate half of the team but I would of done anything to see them in the playoffs.
:'(
Well...the bright side to this is we get to see if Wade is canned.
Wade will be safe. I just have that feeling.
GO FLYERS!!!!!
And here dies another Phillies season...
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A baseball season dies a slow and painful death
In the painful clutch of death's boney arms
A year given to misery and despairing dreams
To wheeze and surrender at doom's final alarm
So is the baseball season finally over for the Phillies?
Thank goodness. Now we can focus on football and hockey(real sports).
C'mon.....it was a great month of baseball. So we are out. Big farging deal. Sure if we take 2 out of 3 from the Mets last week we are in, but the Phils played their asses off the last month and I had a blast following it. Can't wait for the hot stove league this winter to see how we will try to get over the hump. I am deadly serious. To see the Phil's home grown talent moving them ahead the way they are maKES ME HOPEFUL YEAR AFTER YEAR.
Quote from: stillupfront on October 02, 2005, 09:38:36 PM
C'mon.....it was a great month of baseball. So we are out. Big farging deal. Sure if we take 2 out of 3 from the Mets last week we are in, but the Phils played their asses off the last month and I had a blast following it. Can't wait for the hot stove league this winter to see how we will try to get over the hump. I am deadly serious. To see the Phil's home grown talent moving them ahead the way they are maKES ME HOPEFUL YEAR AFTER YEAR.
What eats me is that if they take
1 out of 6. just ONE FREAKING GAME against the Astros, we're watching playoff baseball for the first time in 12 years.
ONE LOUSY GAME! :boom
It was a fun month, though.
Quote from: stillupfront on October 02, 2005, 09:38:36 PM
C'mon.....it was a great month of baseball. So we are out. Big farging deal. Sure if we take 2 out of 3 from the Mets last week we are in, but the Phils played their asses off the last month and I had a blast following it. Can't wait for the hot stove league this winter to see how we will try to get over the hump. I am deadly serious. To see the Phil's home grown talent moving them ahead the way they are maKES ME HOPEFUL YEAR AFTER YEAR.
I was glad they made it interesting, but in the end it's the same old story with them. :boo
It's like watching a good movie and the hero gets killed at the end for no reason.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 02, 2005, 09:43:12 PM
Quote from: stillupfront on October 02, 2005, 09:38:36 PM
C'mon.....it was a great month of baseball. So we are out. Big farging deal. Sure if we take 2 out of 3 from the Mets last week we are in, but the Phils played their asses off the last month and I had a blast following it. Can't wait for the hot stove league this winter to see how we will try to get over the hump. I am deadly serious. To see the Phil's home grown talent moving them ahead the way they are maKES ME HOPEFUL YEAR AFTER YEAR.
I was glad they made it interesting, but in the end it's the same old story with them. :boo
It's like watching a good movie and the hero gets killed at the end for no reason.
Yeah, but you expect the hero to get killed because he was killed in the previous ten installments of the franchise.
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 02, 2005, 09:45:57 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 02, 2005, 09:43:12 PM
Quote from: stillupfront on October 02, 2005, 09:38:36 PM
C'mon.....it was a great month of baseball. So we are out. Big farging deal. Sure if we take 2 out of 3 from the Mets last week we are in, but the Phils played their asses off the last month and I had a blast following it. Can't wait for the hot stove league this winter to see how we will try to get over the hump. I am deadly serious. To see the Phil's home grown talent moving them ahead the way they are maKES ME HOPEFUL YEAR AFTER YEAR.
I was glad they made it interesting, but in the end it's the same old story with them. :boo
It's like watching a good movie and the hero gets killed at the end for no reason.
Yeah, but you expect the hero to get killed because he was killed in the previous ten installments of the franchise.
Just add Wo;fe to that staff and they win at least three more. I will have a big problem if they fail to sign Wagner.
Me too. I love Billy Wags.
But he's going to be a Met. :-\
Well hopefully we get a gm with some brains
QuoteTime for Phillies to address Wagner's future
By Jeff McLane
INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
WASHINGTON - Now that another Phillies season has come to an all-too-familiar conclusion, it's time to start addressing the top-priority off-season personnel decisions.
Most likely at the top of the list is whether closer Billy Wagner's perfect 1 1/3 innings in the 9-3 win over the Washington Nationals were the last that the flame-thrower will play in a Phils uniform.
After the World Series, the Phillies have 15 days to work out a deal with Wagner before he can test the free-agent waters.
The question is: Will the 34-year-old lefty - whom many consider the MVP of this year's team - rejoin the Phils or will he shop his 284 career saves elsewhere?
The usually outspoken Wagner was uncharacteristically absent from postgame questioning. He was last seen exiting the parking lot at RFK Stadium in his white BMW.
Phillies general manager Ed Wade said he hoped the Wagner situation would be among the organization's main concerns.
"I hope Billy will be here," said Wade. "We've had a lot of discussions and then sort of set it aside because we didn't want it to interfere with the pennant race."
The Phils opened talks with Wagner and his agent before the trading deadline in July and met as recently as two weeks ago.
Wagner wants a three-year contract worth in the neighborhood of $27 million to $30 million. He had privately said that he offered to take a three-year deal at $8 million per year around the time of the all-star break. The Phils appear reluctant to offer a third year and may not bid as high because of payroll commitments next season.
They have $77.75 million committed to 11 players for next year, and with a significant drop in attendance from last season - nearly 600,000 fans worth - there is good reason to suspect that the front office won't be able to afford Wagner's price tag.
For Wagner to stay, he may have to accept a contract below his market value for next season. The Phils' budget is more flexible in the following year, 2007.
This is all assuming Wagner wants to stay in Philadelphia. He's been very critical of the team's fan base, saying last week, "They're not there to support. All they do is boo us."
It wasn't too long ago that Wagner's emergence from the bullpen at Citizens Bank Park to the sounds of Metallica's "Enter Sandman" drew thunderous applause, as did his 100-m.p.h. scoreboard postings.
Wagner was dealt to the Phils before the 2004 season and was seen as a savior to a franchise that had seen its share of incompetent closers. Injuries interrupted his first season as a Phillie, but this year he came back with a vengeance.
"The bottom line is: Billy's the top free agent out there in my mind," Phillies pitcher Jon Lieber said. "I'd love to see him back, but I have no control over that."
The Chicago Cubs were rumored to be possible suitors, but they signed closer Ryan Dempster to a contract extension Saturday, ending that speculation. But Wagner should draw considerable attention from closer-desperate teams, like the New York Mets.
He was near automatic out of the bullpen this season. He converted 38 of 41 save opportunities and had a minuscule 1.51 ERA in 75 appearances. Only the New York Yankees' Mariano Rivera can boast of similar numbers. Rivera had 43 saves in 47 chances and ended his Cy Young-caliber season with a 1.38 ERA.
"It's really tough to find an inning-closer like" Wagner, Phillies catcher Mike Lieberthal said. "He and Rivera are the top two.
"Wagner is like playing eight innings. He's money when it comes down to the ninth inning."
PG, does that really give you confidence?
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:(
See you losers in February!
The Six Deadly Sins of the 2005 season:
1. July 25: Astros 7, Phils 1- Cory Lidle gets knocked around for seven runs in 5 innings.
2. July 26: Astros 2, Phils 1- Ryan Madsen surrenders a walk-off homer to Mike Lamb.
3. July 27: Astros 3, Phils 2- Clemens just one run better than Padilla.
4. September 5: Astros 4, Phils 3- Phils can't quite overcome four Houston runs in the first off Brett Myers.
5. September 6: Astros 2, Phils 1- How often does Wagner lose games?
6. September 7: Astros 8, Phils 6- The true heartbreaker. Score 3 in the 8th to take a lead, and Wagner not only blows the save, but loses for the 2nd consecutive game. Again- how often does Wagner lose games?
Six games. Six losses. Just one blowout. The Phils could have won any of the last five. If they did, they're in the playoffs.
Again, congrats to Houston. You won the games that counted against the team that became your biggest rival for the Wild Card.
For the Phils? Frustration and resignation once again rule in the kingdom of Bill Giles, Dave Montgomery, and Ed Wade.
:boom :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom
I counted 44 games the Phillies should've won that they lost. 5 games to the Astros hurt, but there are plenty of ones you could look back on and wonder why they didnt win.
Hey remember Terry Adams? He cost us at least 5 games. He's retired now. But what happens in April and May matters.
What's this I hear about Wade almost crying during an interview yesterday?
Cataldi's talking about it...
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 02, 2005, 04:58:59 PM
Quote from: Dillen37 on October 02, 2005, 04:53:41 PM
Lidge said farging on TV. Only the word that gets converted to farg. :-D
So did about 300,000 people in the greater Philadelphia area.
He was talking in an interview.
karma is a mofo. 8)
Quote from: mhunt on October 03, 2005, 08:53:52 AM
karma is a mofo. 8)
I hope the Yankees charter crashes into your house.
;D
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 03, 2005, 12:50:56 AM
4. September 5: Astros 4, Phils 3- Phils can't quite overcome four Houston runs in the first off Brett Myers.
5. September 6: Astros 2, Phils 1- How often does Wagner lose games?
6. September 7: Astros 8, Phils 6- The true heartbreaker. Score 3 in the 8th to take a lead, and Wagner not only blows the save, but loses for the 2nd consecutive game. Again- how often does Wagner lose games?
This series cost them the playoffs. Period.
Their zesty no-clutch, only play hard and smart when they feel like it attitude kept them out of the playoffs. Oh yeah, that and having absolutely no pitching. You're all suckers.