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Title: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: henchmanUK on April 05, 2005, 06:27:27 AM
Heroic White Sox beat Cleveland 1-0. Buerhle gets rid of first 12 batters. :yay
Stupid Cubs win.  :boo
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2005, 06:37:09 AM
Quick game yesterday -- 1:50...

When's the Big Hurt coming back? One of my favorite players...

I hope you guys smoke Kevin Millwood!
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: henchmanUK on April 05, 2005, 06:51:00 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2005, 06:37:09 AM
Quick game yesterday -- 1:50...

When's the Big Hurt coming back? One of my favorite players...

I hope you guys smoke Kevin Millwood!

Thomas back May 1, hopefully. There is a huge lack of power in the line-up this season. Ordonez and Carlos Lee are both gone. Carl Everett is injured too. Only Konerko and Rowand provide any sort of oomph at the moment. Would be nice if everything came together tonight so we can spank Millwood.  ;D I hate the stoopid Indians.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: henchmanUK on April 06, 2005, 05:40:09 AM
Sox vs. Millwood tonight. I hope we can count on the city of Philadelphia's support!  :)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on April 06, 2005, 11:07:46 AM
Smoltz got his ass beat yesterday.  Pulled in the 2nd inning...  :evil
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: hunt on April 06, 2005, 12:35:24 PM
the yankees are 2-0 against boston.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Wingspan on April 06, 2005, 01:20:58 PM
Quote from: mhunt on April 06, 2005, 12:35:24 PM
the yankees are 2-0 against boston.

and we all know how that turned out last time.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Rome on April 06, 2005, 04:09:46 PM
Rivera just blew another save!

Rodriguez chokes again on a dead double play ball.

Boston leads 4-3.

:-D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Rome on April 06, 2005, 04:11:35 PM
LOL!  Base hit Red Sox, 6-3 Boston.   >:D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Rome on April 06, 2005, 04:13:14 PM
WTF is wrong with Torre?  Rivera's gotta go.   :-\

Edited - nevermind.  Torre pulled him and to a chorus of Bronx Cheers, no less!   :'(
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: hunt on April 07, 2005, 08:23:22 AM
slow down, romey.  yanks took 2 out of 3 against the defending world series champs.  :yay

Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Rome on April 07, 2005, 08:47:33 AM
Yeah, but you have to admit, Rivera has looked like a Phillies reliever in the past two games.

:paranoid

:-D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: hunt on April 07, 2005, 09:46:29 AM
yep...the red sox have been lighting him up recently.  he also had an abbreviated spring training due to elbow problems.
there's no doubt he's not what he was 5 years ago but i think he'll be effective enough to get the job done this season.

just in case...what's wagner's contract situation?  ;)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: henchmanUK on April 09, 2005, 10:14:22 AM
EL DUQUE! :yay
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: MDS on April 09, 2005, 10:11:57 PM
No 162-0 this year. Brewers finally lost a game.  :-D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: henchmanUK on April 10, 2005, 09:39:38 AM
Ha ha! White Sox smoke Radke, best record in AL. :yay Bring on Santana!
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on April 10, 2005, 07:00:25 PM
Braves debut their new alternates...  :P

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050410/capt.gaja10704102050.mets_braves_gaja107.jpg) (http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20050410/i/r3473902880.jpg)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 10, 2005, 07:50:12 PM
I wonder if that new uni will make them look any better when their heads are sagging while walking off the field after yet another post season blunder.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Gene on April 10, 2005, 10:13:00 PM
Pedro smoked the Braves and their alternates today......

Smoltz struck out 15 Metsies before getting shelled in the 8th.......Mets hit 3 homers and were inches away from hitting 4 consecutive that inning.........
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 10, 2005, 10:36:23 PM
You mean the Mets won?  That's unpossible. 
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2005, 11:29:35 PM
Smoltz was looking awesome today until he hung one slider to Beltran. That opened the floodgates.

Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: henchmanUK on April 11, 2005, 06:40:46 AM
Quote from: henchmanUK on April 10, 2005, 09:39:38 AM
Bring on Santana!

Crap. Santana was awesome last night.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on April 19, 2005, 01:40:27 AM
Washington named their mascot after the 2nd-biggest TV nerd of the 90's (behind Urkel)...

(http://dustindiamond.com/images/screech.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/bas0q/Diamondbacks%20-%204-17-05/MVC-560F.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/bas0q/Diamondbacks%20-%204-17-05/MVC-559F.jpg)

Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 19, 2005, 07:47:21 AM
Worst. Mascot. Ever.

They would've been better off shipping Youppi's ass to Washington and giving him an American name like Ralph or something.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: henchmanUK on April 19, 2005, 08:05:30 AM
White Sox best record in AL. Cubs still suck. Tee-hee.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Fan_Since_64 on April 20, 2005, 07:59:49 AM
Always glad to see the Cubs sucking.  ;)

The Cards have won their fifth straight. Nice to see Matt Morris, who has alternately made me happy and driven me crazy, pitching well in his season debut.  8)
Title: Another baseball thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 20, 2005, 10:45:16 AM
Because, seriously, there aren't enough.

Gooooo BASEBALL!
Title: Re: Another baseball thread
Post by: rjs246 on April 20, 2005, 11:05:47 AM
Yes I also like sarcasm.
Title: Re: Another baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 20, 2005, 11:07:37 AM
Yankees Suck!  ;D
Title: Re: Another baseball thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 20, 2005, 11:10:15 AM
Quote from: geowhizzer on April 20, 2005, 11:07:37 AM
Yankees Suck!  ;D

There's already a thread for that! (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=14963.0)
Title: Re: Another baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 20, 2005, 10:43:40 PM
 
Garciaparra carried off field with groin injury (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cubs-garciaparra&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Title: Re: Another baseball thread
Post by: henchmanUK on April 21, 2005, 05:24:57 AM
Quote from: geowhizzer on April 20, 2005, 10:43:40 PM

Garciaparra carried off field with groin injury (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cubs-garciaparra&prov=ap&type=lgns)

Shame. :evil
Title: Re: Another baseball thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on April 21, 2005, 02:39:50 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2042685

Nomah to miss 2-3 months
Title: Re: Another baseball thread
Post by: Mad-Lad on April 21, 2005, 02:42:58 PM
While i don't wish the guy harm, I love seeing bad things happen to the Cubs. 

Sounds like his "I'm gonna sign a one year deal to boost my stock next offseason" isn't gonna work out so well.
Title: Re: Another baseball thread
Post by: Dillen on April 21, 2005, 03:02:25 PM
Quote from: Mad-Lad on April 21, 2005, 02:42:58 PM
While i don't wish the guy harm, I love seeing bad things happen to the Cubs. 

Sounds like his "I'm gonna sign a one year deal to boost my stock next offseason" isn't gonna work out so well.
I cant stand him either.



Taveras and Lane are doing well so far huh ML? :yay
Title: Re: Another baseball thread
Post by: Mad-Lad on April 21, 2005, 03:07:46 PM
Quote from: Dillen37 on April 21, 2005, 03:02:25 PM
Quote from: Mad-Lad on April 21, 2005, 02:42:58 PM
While i don't wish the guy harm, I love seeing bad things happen to the Cubs. 

Sounds like his "I'm gonna sign a one year deal to boost my stock next offseason" isn't gonna work out so well.
I cant stand him either.



Taveras and Lane are doing well so far huh ML? :yay

Yeah, they're playing pretty well.  There are some serious issues with the lack of production offensively, but hopefully it will work itself out.  Oh, and John Franco sucks.

Wake me after the All Star Break.
Title: Re: Another baseball thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2005, 06:57:23 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 21, 2005, 02:39:50 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2042685

Nomah to miss 2-3 months

Now Mia will have to rehab him...
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Rome on April 21, 2005, 07:25:25 PM
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/bas0q/Diamondbacks%20-%204-17-05/MVC-560F.jpg)


Is this Swoop on Dianabol?   :paranoid
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2005, 07:52:45 PM
No. Swoop drank too many Pabst Blue Ribbons and got him a beer gut.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: henchmanUK on April 22, 2005, 05:05:54 AM
Ozzie Guillen in foul-mouthed rant at Magglio Ordonez.  :yay
QuoteCurses! Guillen-Ordonez flap erupts
By Mark Gonzales
Tribune staff reporter

April 21, 2005, 10:58 PM CDT

The brushfire between manager Ozzie Guillen and former White Sox player Magglio Ordonez turned into a full-scale inferno Thursday morning after Guillen took exception to his fellow Venezuelan calling him an "enemy."

"He's a piece of [bleep]," Guillen told Sox beat writers after learning of Ordonez's contempt for Guillen and alleging his manager steered him away from the Sox and to Detroit.

"He's a [bleep], that's what he is," Guillen continued. "He's another Venezuelan [bleep]. [Bleep] him.

"He has an enemy. Now he has a big one. He knows I can [bleep] him a lot of different ways. He better shut the [bleep] up and play for the Detroit Tigers."

In a five-minute interview a member of the Tigers staff halted, Ordonez expressed his frustration over his latest injury but was blunter in discussing the lack of a relationship he had with Guillen from the time they briefly played together with the Sox at the end of the 1997 season.

"We never clicked, even when we played together," Ordonez said. "I don't consider him my friend. I have nothing to say. I don't want to see him or talk to him. He's my enemy.

"If he comes to me and wants to apologize, I wouldn't accept it."

Ordonez said later he didn't have a problem with Sox general manager Ken Williams and insisted it was Guillen who got involved with the Sox's decision not to re-sign him.

"I don't talk bad about people when people are hurt," said Ordonez, who is on the disabled list and will be examined Monday in Philadelphia by a hernia specialist. "I'm very straightforward. There are a lot of people who try to push you down and do the opposite and not try to help you."

Guillen became furious at any suggestion that he should apologize to Ordonez.

"Why do I have to apologize to him?" Guillen responded while sitting in his office chair and tapping his right foot frequently. "Who the [bleep] is Magglio Ordonez? Why ever talk about me? He doesn't do [bleep] for me. But if he thinks I'm his enemy, he has a big enemy. He knows me.

"I just take it the way he wants to take it."

Guillen said Ordonez started the verbal battle in February when Ordonez accused him of forcing him to play last season with a left knee injury that limited him to 52 games and convinced the Sox not to re-sign him after they had offered him a multiyear deal last April.

"Why would I get involved with [contract negotiations]?" Guillen asked. "I don't get involved with that."

Ordonez later switched agents, from Tom Reich to Scott Boras, and landed a five-year, $75 million contract with Detroit.

The Tigers, however, can void the contract if Ordonez's left knee causes him to spend at least 25 days on the disabled list or if he finishes the season on the DL.

That would cost Ordonez $63 million, but Guillen insinuated that messing with him would be a greater risk.

"I think Magglio is playing with fire," Guillen said. "I'm not afraid of him. I have nothing to apologize [for]. I have nothing to do with Magglio wearing the Detroit Tigers uniform.

"Every time when he played for me, he played good. But if he thinks I'm his enemy or I have something against him, it's up to him."

Guillen also felt betrayed because he claimed he told then-Sox GM Ron Schueler to put Ordonez on the 40-man roster after he was left off in the mid-1990s.

"I told Schueler this kid is better than you think," Guillen said.

But apparently not as friendly. Ordonez did meet with a few Sox players after Wednesday's game, including disabled slugger Frank Thomas.

And before Thursday's game, Guillen had an animated discussion on the field with friend and fellow Venezuelan Ugueth Urbina.

As for Ordonez, Guillen said: "He never was my friend because I don't know him. If I think what I say hurt him, I don't give a [bleep]. I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to win games. I have a lot of friends. If Magglio doesn't want to be my friend, I don't have to drink with him.

"... A couple people asked me about it, and was nice about his injury and [bleep]. I don't give a [bleep] what he does for the rest of his life. He [bleeped] with the wrong guy."

Copyright © 2005, The Chicago Tribune
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Dillen on April 23, 2005, 11:56:29 PM
Astros great hitting game today. 3rd time this year theyve lost 1-0 in 10 innings.  :D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on April 24, 2005, 08:59:45 PM
(http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/players/04/04/on_location0411/t1_location.jpg)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: shorebird on April 27, 2005, 12:26:15 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 24, 2005, 08:59:45 PM
(http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/players/04/04/on_location0411/t1_location.jpg)

WTF!?!? I know players smack each others butts, but thats taking it a bit too far!

By the way, anyone notice that the Orioles have won 5 straight and just swept Boston? And Sosa hasn't even started to hit yet.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on April 29, 2005, 09:28:48 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-rockersreturn&prov=ap&type=lgns


lmfao
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: shorebird on April 30, 2005, 05:56:30 PM
Six in a row for the O's and counting. I'm trying not to get too excited after just twenty or so games, but they're playing some good ball.

Whats even better is Stienbrenner gettin' ready to blow his top.  :-D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: CSD on May 03, 2005, 11:00:14 AM
Did anyone see Ichiro's catch last night?

Amazing. :o
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Mad-Lad on May 04, 2005, 09:16:21 AM
Quote from: Richard Justice (Houston Chronicle)As for Astacio, he's 25 years old with two power pitches and a changeup that's a work in progress. In his major-league debut, he was overpowering at times, shaky at others.

He allowed four runs in six innings, and if he settles down and keeps the ball down in the strike zone, he's got a chance to solidify the starting rotation.

"There's just something special about this kid," Purpura said. "He's got a great makeup. He's a competitor. I don't think he's going to get rattled. He's not the type who'll let stuff bother him."

The Astros have the National League's third-best staff ERA at 3.53 and a starting rotation that entered Tuesday's game with a 3.93 ERA.

At least the kid the Astros got from the Phillies in the Billy Wagner trade looks promising.  If only he could make the Houston offense play less like a little league team.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 04, 2005, 09:19:40 AM
Yeah, I saw Zeke's highlights last night. He's got good stuff. I sure hope we re-sign Wags so trading a talent like Astacio isn't all for naught.

But since we have dopey Ed as the GM, I am not holding my breath.

BTW -- What are your thoughts on Hunsicker? I want the Phils to go after him.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Mad-Lad on May 04, 2005, 09:47:19 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 04, 2005, 09:19:40 AM
BTW -- What are your thoughts on Hunsicker? I want the Phils to go after him.
Here's the article just after Hunsicker stepped down from the Houston Chronicle

QuoteScore this an error on ownership
Nov. 2nd 2004
By RICHARD JUSTICE
Copyright 2004 Houston Chronicle


He gave the Astros credibility. He gave them a conscience. He contributed more to their success than any of us may ever really know.

He didn't cry Monday when he announced his resignation, but he came close a couple of times.

If you love the Astros, you're the one who should be crying. Your favorite baseball team is far worse off than it was before Gerry Hunsicker stepped to a microphone on Monday morning at Minute Maid Park.

But don't cry for Hunsicker.

He won't be out of work long. This was a resignation, not a retirement.

I thought it was odd that Drayton McLane didn't seem the least bit worried or embarrassed. He should have been both.

Relationship had eroded
Hunsicker is no longer general manager of the Astros because he had finally had enough of McLane.

He resigned because their relationship had run its course and because he was worn down by the constant budget battles and by dealing with an owner who wanted a hand in virtually every decision.

Yes, they disagreed over McLane's decision to bring back Craig Biggio for 2005. That wasn't the reason he quit.

It wasn't even about McLane's latest slashing of the player-development budget. McLane has asked his baseball people to do more and more with less and less for so long that cutting the budget became the norm.

It was all those things and more. It was a desire for more freedom, to maybe answer to someone who trusted him a bit more and who understood that building a team is more art than science.

This is no knock on his replacement, either.

Tim Purpura is competent, personable and more than deserving. He has waited patiently while other franchises have hired less-qualified men.

In evaluating players and executing acquisitions, he may be every bit as good as Gerry Hunsicker.

He'll also be so excited to have the job that he may be able to overlook some of the things that gnawed at Hunsicker.

And yet ...

The ripple effect
Hunsicker's departure leaves an unimaginably large hole in an organization that had been one of baseball's most successful since he arrived in late 1995. He drafted wisely, made shrewd trades and was one of the game's best talent evaluators.

He was also much more than that, and the Astros may not understand the magnitude of his departure for weeks, maybe months. Sports franchises change slowly, almost imperceptibly even in the best of times.

The Astros will understand, though, when there's no one to push McLane in the right direction, when there's no one to go to bat for the lower-paid employees, when there's no way to tell his overbearing bean counters to take a hike.

He convinced McLane to start a 401K retirement plan. He pleaded with McLane to close the team's offices between Christmas and New Year's Day as a way to give employees who routinely work 70-hour weeks a break.

At Union Station, most employees understood that if they had a problem, Hunsicker was the one person would really listen.

This morning, those people are just beginning to realize what they lost. Now when they've got a problem they can look for one of the managers who consider sarcasm a motivational tool.

In sports, we tend to measure everything by the numbers. We'll remember Hunsicker as the guy who constructed five playoff teams in nine years and who built one of the best and most efficient baseball operations on earth.

He never got the Astros into a World Series, but he got them close.

He was the guy who ordered Brad Lidge to emphasize his slider, the pitch that may now be the best in the game.

He was the guy who saw potential in Brandon Backe when the Devil Rays didn't.

He was the guy who understood that things had to fit and that while a Lance Berkman had value, so did a Jose Vizcaino.

He's as competitive and as tightly wrapped as any man I've known. He's also a man of uncommon decency, a man who always tries to do the right thing.

As recently as a couple of weeks ago, he was talking excitedly about the 2005 Astros. He knew that every move would have to be cleared by McLane, and sometime last week, he tired of the fight.

Health became an issue
At midseason when the Astros appeared to be going nowhere, Hunsicker began having heart palpitations.

At times, his heart beat so quickly that he thought he might be dying. If you ever saw him after some of those ugly losses, you'd understand better than any doctor what he was going through.

He took every defeat personally. They gnawed at him and angered him and brought him down. Unlike McLane, he didn't hide what he was feeling. There were times when he spoke too frankly.

McLane resented his GM's frankness. He resented how much credit Hunsicker got.

Hunsicker believes he was almost fired after last season. They decided to give it one more try and then re-evaluate.

Last Thursday, Hunsicker told McLane he'd had enough. McLane apparently didn't attempt to talk him out of it.

Had he tried, I'm guessing he could have.

Another owner might have realized what he was about to lose and tried to change. He'd have promised to turn baseball decisions over to him or to allow him to mold the roster any way he saw fit.

McLane wouldn't do that because he believes organizations are more important than any single person. He may find out there are people so valuable they're worth bending for.

Kind words all around
At Monday's news conference, they all played nice. Hunsicker said all the right things about taking a break, and McLane couldn't have been more gracious.

But don't believe all that half-baked stuff about Hunsicker serving as a consultant and holding Purpura's hand through his first months on the job.

Hunsicker will clean out his desk and have the place in his rearview mirror by the
end of the week. He said something about taking his wife, Irene, fishing and maybe doing some chores around the house.

Uh, right. He's 54, not 84. I'm guessing he'll be running another team by Christmas.

Whether it's the Texas Rangers or Philadelphia Phillies or some other club, he's going to be the best present some owner could ever give himself.

What an awful day for the Astros.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on May 04, 2005, 02:45:51 PM
Bonds has 3rd knee surgery (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-bonds-surgery&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 04, 2005, 07:13:08 PM
Thanks for posting that, Mad.

I enjoy reading and listening to Justice. One of the better baseball writers out there...

Hunsicker is a Philly guy and I hope that Monty and his cronies have the balls to fire Ed and bring Gerry into the fold.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 11, 2005, 09:17:29 AM
Tony Pena quit on the Royals last night...

Larry Bowa is going to call them for the job.


How long until MDS buy a KC hat and L-Bo Royals jersey? ;D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: MDS on May 11, 2005, 12:08:12 PM
Gimme two days. Max.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on May 11, 2005, 01:04:55 PM
And Bowa thought the garbage he had the last 2 years was bad?  Wait until he gets to KC...  ;D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on May 11, 2005, 10:46:12 PM
Surprised no one mentioned this one...  :P

Baseball version of the World Cup in March 2006 (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2057633)


China, Japan (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players?country=29), Korea (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players?country=55), Taiwan (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players?country=107)

Cuba (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players?country=15), Italy, Panama (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players?country=35), Puerto Rico (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players?country=5)

Canada (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players?country=2), Mexico (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players?country=30), South Africa, USA (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players?country=1)

Australia (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players?country=8), Dominican Republic (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players?country=19), Netherlands, Venezuela (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players?country=42)

Projected lineups for each country (http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/news/050511worldcuprosters.html)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 12, 2005, 08:46:55 AM
I'd hate to be the announcer who draws the Far East bracket. Talk about tongue twister names! :o
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on May 12, 2005, 09:54:08 AM
I like Taiwan's lineup...  ;D

C—Chun-chang Ye
1B—Chia-hsien Hsieh
2B—Chung-yi Huang
3B—Tai-shan Chang
SS—Ching-lung Hu (Dodgers)
LF—Chin-feng Chen (Dodgers)
CF—Chih-yuan Chen
RF—Kan-lin Huang
DH—Cheng-min Peng
SP—Chien-ming Wang (Yankees)
SP—Chi-Hung Cheng (Blue Jays)
SP—Chih-chia Chang
SP—Ming-chieh Hsu
RP— Chin-hui Tsao (Rockies)
Manager: Sheng-ming Hsu
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 12, 2005, 10:08:11 AM
:-D

Tai, Kan, Ming and Sheng must feel like outcasts...
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Dillen on May 12, 2005, 04:27:11 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 04, 2005, 09:19:40 AM
BTW -- What are your thoughts on Hunsicker? I want the Phils to go after him.
I liked him when he was in Houston, he's willing to go out for a great player and doesnt make many stupid mistakes...he got Beltran last year which was a great trade but I heard one reason he stepped down was just because he didnt think he could get Beltran back and people would rip him for it
Title: Breaking news on Bonds
Post by: PhillyGirl on May 18, 2005, 09:24:52 PM
Breaking news...Bonds in deep shtein with serious infection from latest knee surgery (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2063397)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on June 02, 2005, 10:59:42 AM
Short column on Scott Boras from ESPN Insider:

QuoteBoras clients earn more but lose time
With minutes to spare, two of Scott Boras's clients signed Monday night: Jered Weaver, with the Angels, and Stephen Drew, with the Arizona Diamondbacks -- after almost a year of holding out. If Weaver and Drew hadn't signed, they would have been thrown back into the pool for next week's draft – and given the history of Boras's clients, that probably would have meant more months holding out.

Some players I covered, as well as one friend in the broadcasting industry, related the sales pitch Boras gave them before each determined to sign with other agents. Each said that he was very convincing, that he made them feel as if they had special talents, and that he explained if he represented them, he effectively would control the negotiations.

I've got to be honest: Whether I had a special talent for baking bagels (and I do, based on record-setting performances in two bagel shops two decades ago) or playing baseball, I couldn't imagine ceding control over my own future to anyone. I put myself in the place of Drew or Weaver, and I don't get it.

Imagine you're coming out of college and you have a chance to make an unbelievable amount of money playing baseball. OK, maybe, with a less aggressive agent, you don't get the maximum contract right away. Maybe, if you handled the negotiations through an agent less aggressive than Boras, you get $3 million instead of $4 million for your first deal. My thinking would be: Hey, I'll take $3 million, which is a pretty hefty sum, and then I'll immediately go about the business of making myself a great baseball player. The chances of more money rolling in will improve, inevitably, if I just focus on getting better at playing the game.

Instead, Drew and Weaver sat around for a year, not playing as much baseball as they could have, not getting the best possible chance to improve themselves. In the end, they got more money (minus Boras's cut), but you wonder if they lost. An aggressive agent like Boras might argue that you need to cash in when you have the opportunity, to maximize the money when possible. I'd argue that your playing career is relatively short and that you should do what you really want to do when possible – play baseball. If you're good at that, you're going to make plenty of money.

It would be interesting to hear from the readers what approach they would take if they had a chance to have a Scott Boras represent them.
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Post by: SD_Eagle5 on June 04, 2005, 05:04:35 AM
Sooo...ummmm....yeah. I'm at Mahloney's tonight, and start talking to this dude. I know he looks familiar but I can't place him. Anyways, girls are coming up to him asking him to sign their boobs. Here, it's freaking Nomar Garciaparria. I knew it was somebody famous but was too drunk to realize who. He was super nice and not the least bit cocky even though he was surrounded by a bunch of hot chicks.  :paranoid What a strange night.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on June 04, 2005, 02:07:35 PM
Did he sign them with "NGP" like he does with everything else?  ;D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on June 04, 2005, 02:11:30 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 04, 2005, 02:07:35 PM
Did he sign them with "NGP" like he does with everything else?  ;D

I was more focused on the boobs then I was his signature.  ;D There was so much ass around him it was absurd  :deion
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on June 05, 2005, 12:44:55 AM
Marlon Byrd was bad (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=250604120)  :poison
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 05, 2005, 09:08:03 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 05, 2005, 12:44:55 AM
Marlon Byrd was bad (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=250604120)  :poison

:o He'll be done for awhile.  Pete Rose got what, 30 games for poking an umpire in the face when he was a manager?  I would suppose this would get around that.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on June 05, 2005, 11:17:14 AM
They showed the replay from a home plate camera and you see him bowl the ump over.  When it cuts in close, that ump got laid out on his back....  :evil
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 05, 2005, 01:01:09 PM
Here's Cristian Guzman and Jose Guillen helping Brinkman up:

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050605/capt.rfk10506050311.marlins_nationals_rfk105.jpg)

By the way, was Brinkman the one who Roberto Alomar spit on a few years ago?
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on June 06, 2005, 08:46:53 PM
Rumor:  Danny Graves will sign with the Mets
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on June 06, 2005, 08:51:58 PM
NL ROY candidate Clint Barmes broke his collarbone (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2077547) after he fell down stairs while carrying groceries.......out 3 months....  :poison
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 06, 2005, 09:23:43 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 06, 2005, 08:51:58 PM
NL ROY candidate Clint Barmes broke his collarbone (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2077547) after he fell down stairs while carrying groceries.......out 3 months....  :poison

And such goes my nice little find for my fantasy team...  :boom
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Dillen on June 06, 2005, 09:30:05 PM
Willy Taveras for ROY :D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Mad-Lad on June 07, 2005, 12:05:22 AM
Quote from: Dillen37 on June 06, 2005, 09:30:05 PM
Willy Taveras for ROY :D

riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

No one on the Lastros deserves any awards (not including starting pitching)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 07, 2005, 07:19:06 AM
Did you guys see Darin Erstad knock Johnny Estrada the farg out?!? :o

It was a stone cold knock out.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: henchmanUK on June 07, 2005, 07:32:32 AM
Quote from: Mad-Lad on June 07, 2005, 12:05:22 AM
Quote from: Dillen37 on June 06, 2005, 09:30:05 PM
Willy Taveras for ROY :D

riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

No one on the Lastros deserves any awards (not including starting pitching)

Iguchi for the AL award though. :D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on June 07, 2005, 07:34:26 AM
And Erstad is a Cornhusker.  I thought those guys didn't hit?  ;D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: henchmanUK on June 07, 2005, 07:39:16 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 07, 2005, 07:34:26 AM
And Erstad is a Cornhusker.  I thought those guys didn't hit?  ;D

Lawrence Phillips was a Husker and he hit. Women mostly.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 07, 2005, 08:15:29 AM
Quote from: henchmanUK on June 07, 2005, 07:39:16 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 07, 2005, 07:34:26 AM
And Erstad is a Cornhusker.  I thought those guys didn't hit?  ;D

Lawrence Phillips was a Husker and he hit. Women mostly.

:-D

Buckhalter was a Husker too. And he hit the blunts.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on June 07, 2005, 12:02:11 PM
Mutts sign Graves (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2078917)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Dillen on June 07, 2005, 02:27:08 PM
Quote from: Mad-Lad on June 07, 2005, 12:05:22 AM
Quote from: Dillen37 on June 06, 2005, 09:30:05 PM
Willy Taveras for ROY :D

riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

No one on the Lastros deserves any awards (not including starting pitching)
Lidge could win the relief man of the year, and now that Barmes is out Willy has a legit shot at ROY. Ensberg MIGHT get a gold glove, unlikely because hes not a household name, but it seems every game he has one or two diving plays.


Ausmus4MVP :deion
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on June 08, 2005, 09:54:08 AM
Pedro does a James Thrash:

(http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/writers/tom_verducci/06/07/darkages.pitching/tx_pedro_point_ap.jpg)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 11, 2005, 11:06:07 PM
Ex-Phil Marlon Anderson just hit an inside-the-park HR for the Mets to tie the game against Francisco Rodriguez of the Angels.

Excellent, exciting play!
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 22, 2005, 09:41:49 AM
I was looking at some articles online this morning, and I found this gem of a line from Ryne Sandberg's column:

Quote4. Who should manage the United States in the World Baseball Classic next year?

My top three candidates on current major-league teams are Bobby Cox, Tony La Russa, Joe Torre and Frank Robinson. On the other hand, Tommy Lasorda is a guy that thrives in that kind of situation – representing the country and the game of baseball. He would be an excellent choice.

:-D Classic!  Where is the editor on this?

For those that care about the rest of the article. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=rs-fourforfour062105&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: henchmanUK on June 25, 2005, 07:22:32 AM
Ryne Sandberg is a bith who can't stand the fact the White Sox are the best team in baseball who fargin' SMOKED the Cubs yesterday.  :yay
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 29, 2005, 03:56:55 PM
Cubs activate Wood, designate Borowksi for assignment (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cubs-wood&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: rjs246 on June 29, 2005, 04:02:18 PM
Mets and Yanks are working on a trade. (http://www.nypost.com/sports/sports.shtml)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 29, 2005, 04:13:51 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on June 29, 2005, 04:02:18 PM
Mets and Yanks are working on a trade. (http://www.nypost.com/sports/sports.shtml)

On the surface, Sheffield for Cameron does not sound like a good deal at all for the Yanks.

Is this a desperation move for the Yanks, is there something else in there (a pitcher, perhaps) involved?

I know that the Yanks  need a centerfielder, but trading Sheffield creates a need in right.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Dillen on June 29, 2005, 04:25:32 PM
While watching the Astros at Rockies game today, I have discovered yesterday Colorado's AAA team won 25-7 last night and two guys hit for the cycle.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on June 29, 2005, 04:26:38 PM
Cairo would also go to the Yankees in that deal...
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Post by: Rome on June 29, 2005, 07:19:27 PM
Sheffield throws a hissy fit, says he'll never go to the Mets:

QuoteUpdated: June 29, 2005, 6:40 PM ET
Sheffield miffed at reported trade rumors:

Gary Sheffield does not want to play for the Mets or any team other than the Yankees this season.

"I'm not going anywhere," Sheffield told The New York Times on Wednesday. The Yankees and Mets reportedly were in discussions about a possible Sheffield-for-Mike Cameron swap.

"If I have to go somewhere, I won't go," the Yankees' slugger told The Times. "If they said 'wouldn't you want to get paid', I'd say 'I've got plenty of money.' I'm not playing nowhere else, I can promise you that."

Sheffield is signed through 2006 and does not have a no-trade clause in his contract. He signed a three-year, $39 million contract in December 2003.

The Yankees reportedly are interested in upgrading their defense by placing Cameron in center. The Mets would add another powerful bat to the middle of their order with Sheffield, who plays right field for the Yankees.

Sheffield seemed to hedge in another interview with MLB.com, saying he would want concessions for signing off on any trade.

"If I have to go somewhere else, a lot of things are going to have to be changed or you're going to have an unhappy player," Sheffield told MLB.com.

"I'll ask for everything. Period. You want to inconvenience me, I'm going to inconvenience every situation there is," he added. "The only reason I'm playing is that I wanted to play for the Yankees. If I don't get that opportunity, things change."

Sheffield, who negotiated his current contract personally with Yankees owner George Steinbrenner, did say that he wouldn't hold out if he were to be traded.

"I would never sit out," Sheffield told MLB.com. "I'd go play, but that doesn't mean I'll be happy playing. If I'm not happy, you don't want me on your team. It's that simple. I'll make that known to anybody."

I wonder if Gary's ever been on the subway from Yankee Stadium to Shea?  It only takes about two hours.

:-D  http://www.nycsubway.org/maps/route/
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: QB Eagles on June 29, 2005, 07:20:58 PM
Quote from: Dillen37 on June 29, 2005, 04:25:32 PM
While watching the Astros at Rockies game today, I have discovered yesterday Colorado's AAA team won 25-7 last night and two guys hit for the cycle.

Then you saw a record broken:

QuoteIt certainly isn't as glamourous as Pete Rose's major-league record for hits, but Craig Biggio now owns the modern record for being hit.

Biggio, 39, was hit by a pitch for the 268th time in his MLB career during the fourth inning of Houston's game at Colorado on Wednesday afternoon.


Byung-Hyun Kim's pitch struck Biggio on the pad protecting his right elbow, the second time in two games and 12th time so far this season that he has been hit.

Biggio tied Don Baylor's post-1900 mark of 267 when plunked in the lower back by a pitch from Jason Jennings in Tuesday's 6-5 loss to the Rockies.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 29, 2005, 08:21:37 PM
Kenny Rogers throws a hissy fit with reporters. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-rangers-rogers&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Rome on June 29, 2005, 08:35:12 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 29, 2005, 08:21:37 PM
Kenny Rogers throws a hissy fit with reporters. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-rangers-rogers&prov=ap&type=lgns)

Something tells me Senor Rodriguez will have a few extra bucks to spend on his next vacation.

:-D

BTW: I wonder if the thought occured to any of the cameramen to pull the camera off their shoulders and smash Rogers in the face with it as he attacked them? 
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 29, 2005, 08:47:53 PM
UTLEY!  :bow
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Dillen on June 29, 2005, 09:05:58 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on June 29, 2005, 07:20:58 PM
Quote from: Dillen37 on June 29, 2005, 04:25:32 PM
While watching the Astros at Rockies game today, I have discovered yesterday Colorado's AAA team won 25-7 last night and two guys hit for the cycle.

Then you saw a record broken:

QuoteIt certainly isn't as glamourous as Pete Rose's major-league record for hits, but Craig Biggio now owns the modern record for being hit.

Biggio, 39, was hit by a pitch for the 268th time in his MLB career during the fourth inning of Houston's game at Colorado on Wednesday afternoon.


Byung-Hyun Kim's pitch struck Biggio on the pad protecting his right elbow, the second time in two games and 12th time so far this season that he has been hit.

Biggio tied Don Baylor's post-1900 mark of 267 when plunked in the lower back by a pitch from Jason Jennings in Tuesday's 6-5 loss to the Rockies.
I know..im an Astros fan.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 03, 2005, 10:48:33 PM
It's official:  Boone cut by Mariners (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-mariners-boone&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on July 05, 2005, 12:01:09 PM
The Astros are trying to trade for Adam Dunn, and 2 of the 3 prospects going to Cincinnati are Astacio and Buchholz.  You may remember them from the Billy Wagner trade...  :-D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Dillen on July 05, 2005, 12:46:11 PM
Good. Astacio will love that ballpark.  :D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on July 05, 2005, 01:10:50 PM
Fernando Nieve is the 3rd guy, BTW...
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Dillen on July 05, 2005, 02:05:02 PM
NO. NO. NO.


I wouldnt do Astacio, Buccholz, and Nieve for Dunn. For minor league pitching, that leaves McLemore and Patton...that's pretty much it. I also heard it could be any 2 of those 3, plus Burke or Lane..
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 05, 2005, 06:34:27 PM
Duinn would be well received in Houston since he's from Texas and all.

Plus the Astros need some kind of offense.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Dillen on July 05, 2005, 11:27:35 PM
Yeah, their offense hasnt been bad lately though. Im wondering if he goes to Houston, who sits, Burke or Lane? Anyways, there was this one interview where he completely obsessed over going to Houston, they asked if he'd do it for half of what he deserves and stuff and he still said yes.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Mad-Lad on July 06, 2005, 08:37:17 AM
Quote from: Dillen37 on July 05, 2005, 11:27:35 PM
Yeah, their offense hasnt been bad lately though. Im wondering if he goes to Houston, who sits, Burke or Lane? Anyways, there was this one interview where he completely obsessed over going to Houston, they asked if he'd do it for half of what he deserves and stuff and he still said yes.

I remember hearing him on the radio a couple years ago talking about how he's still a huge Astros fan.  That being said, I don't know if i'd be willing to sit Lane or Burke.  I can't say i've necessarily followed Dunn's career, but doesn't he strike out ALL THE TIME?
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 06, 2005, 09:08:38 AM
Quote from: Mad-Lad on July 06, 2005, 08:37:17 AM
Quote from: Dillen37 on July 05, 2005, 11:27:35 PM
Yeah, their offense hasnt been bad lately though. Im wondering if he goes to Houston, who sits, Burke or Lane? Anyways, there was this one interview where he completely obsessed over going to Houston, they asked if he'd do it for half of what he deserves and stuff and he still said yes.

I remember hearing him on the radio a couple years ago talking about how he's still a huge Astros fan.  That being said, I don't know if i'd be willing to sit Lane or Burke.  I can't say i've necessarily followed Dunn's career, but doesn't he strike out ALL THE TIME?

I can't remember the show I heard this on (may be the XM Radio Baseball show with Larry Bowa), but they were comparing Dunn to another slugging Reds outfielder of yore, Ted Kluszewski.

For Kluszewski's four "prime seasons," he hit 40, 49, 47 and 35 home runs.  During those four seasons, he struck out 34, 35, 40 and 31 times, for a total of 140 strikeouts over the four seasons, in a total of 2272 at-bats.  "Big Klu" struck out about 6.2% of the time.

For comparison, last season Adam Dunn hit 46 home runs.  He struck out 195 times in 568 at bats! Dunn struck out 34.3% of the time.

Dunn has struck out 55 more times last year than Klu did over four seasons, or in 1704 less at bats. 

Dunn has struck out 39% more in exactly 25% of the at bats.

Hopefully Dunn learns much like our own Mike Schmidt that he can still hit a bunch of homers without swinging quite so hard, thereby reducing the enormous amount of strikeouts (remember, Schmitty had 180 strikeouts in 1975, and had reduced that total to an average of 109 from 1979-1987, while keeping his homerun rate to just under 38, which was his total for that 1975 season.

I still say that 1981 strike kept Schmidt from having an even better year in 1981 than he had in 1980.  He could've had 50+ homers that year.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Mad-Lad on July 06, 2005, 09:31:55 AM
Damn Geo.  thanks for the info.

I"m kinda iffy about trading prospects to insert a strikeout machine.  Having Brandon Backe and Roy Oswalt will be around for a while, but Pettitte and Clemens aren't getting any younger.  Losing Wade Miller to the Red Sox hasn't really hurt too bad considering he isn't back at 100%.  Either way, i'd rather hold on to the young arms.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Dillen on July 06, 2005, 12:32:39 PM
Quote from: Mad-Lad on July 06, 2005, 08:37:17 AM
I remember hearing him on the radio a couple years ago talking about how he's still a huge Astros fan.  That being said, I don't know if i'd be willing to sit Lane or Burke.  I can't say i've necessarily followed Dunn's career, but doesn't he strike out ALL THE TIME?
I'd would be somewhat willing to bench Lane, but not all the time. Platoon would be ok with me, but it'd be easier if Burke or Lane were included in the trade. I still want Burke at 2b when Biggio's done, but Burke could be like 29 by then. Dunn strikes out a lot, way more then a player should, but he gets tons of walks. He works the count alot, therefore strikes out alot and walks alot. His batting average is about .250 range, and his OBP is .400, what does that tell you?

Quote from: Mad-Lad on July 06, 2005, 08:37:17 AM
Damn Geo.  thanks for the info.

I"m kinda iffy about trading prospects to insert a strikeout machine.  Having Brandon Backe and Roy Oswalt will be around for a while, but Pettitte and Clemens aren't getting any younger.  Losing Wade Miller to the Red Sox hasn't really hurt too bad considering he isn't back at 100%.  Either way, i'd rather hold on to the young arms.
I wouldnt mind giving up one or two prospects, but not all three of Astacio, Buccholz, and Nieve. I would want to keep Buccholz, Nieve, Gothreaux, almost all of the pitchers from Corpus Christi, Talbot and Patton. When you think about it, thats alot of solid pitching, but in 2 years they have like 5 pitchers set in stone. (Oswalt, Backe, Lidge, Wandy and Wheeler) Chances are all of those prospects wont work out, but they need to hold onto them as of now just to make sure some of them work. I'd be WILLING to part with Buccholz, Gothreaux, Hernandez, Astacio, and some others from CC, but thats about it. I wish Hernandez didnt have to do that headfirst slide.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on July 06, 2005, 02:43:30 PM
Piniella has a new idea for his "starters" (http://www.sptimes.com/2005/07/06/Rays/Lou_resorts_to_starti.shtml)   :-\
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on July 06, 2005, 09:25:30 PM
He started his starter anyway...  :-D

Meanwhile, Oswalt and Podsednik (NOT Jeter  :-D :-D ) get the 32nd spots in the All-Star game....
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Dillen on July 06, 2005, 09:28:46 PM
Oswalt is jesus, only in 28 year old starting pitcher form.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Mad-Lad on July 06, 2005, 10:20:37 PM
(http://www.dl-digital.com/images/Astros/DSC_2804-roy-oswalt.jpg)
It's all about the O.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on July 06, 2005, 10:31:11 PM
Trade you Padilla for him!  :D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Mad-Lad on July 07, 2005, 08:54:48 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 06, 2005, 10:31:11 PM
Trade you Padilla for him!  :D

nah.   I hear Duckworth's available.  :P
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 08, 2005, 07:25:54 PM
David Wells reportedly condones Rogers' tirade (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/3747520?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=49)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 08, 2005, 08:44:42 PM
Reports are coming out that the Rockies are trading Preston Wilson to the Nats for Zach Day and JJ Davis (OF).

It'll be completed once they figure out the salary (Wilson makes $12.5M) and once he waives his no trade clause. The Nats are one of the 5 teams he can deny a trade to.

Wilson sucks though. He's only good at Coors.

Oh yeah -- Jim Bowden is making moves again. Must be nice to have a GM that doesn't sit around with his head wedged up his farging ass!
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on July 09, 2005, 05:41:08 PM
The Nationals lost Junior Spivey for 8-12 weeks after he broke his wrist in batting practice  :o
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 10, 2005, 01:18:40 AM
And Nick Johnson had a setback too, according to Buster Olney on BBTN.

Frickin Atlanta is going to catch them. Watch.

Kelly Johnson has 6 HR's for them already!
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on July 11, 2005, 11:06:20 AM
Mr. fragile ego is out, Morgan Ensberg is in (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-all-stars-rolen-ensberg&prov=ap&type=lgns)  :yay
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Dillen on July 11, 2005, 11:57:19 AM
Good.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 11, 2005, 01:45:56 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 11, 2005, 11:06:20 AM
Mr. fragile ego is out, Morgan Ensberg is in (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-all-stars-rolen-ensberg&prov=ap&type=lgns)  :yay

What, no Davil Bell?  :o

:-D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Mad-Lad on July 11, 2005, 01:56:14 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 11, 2005, 01:45:56 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 11, 2005, 11:06:20 AM
Mr. fragile ego is out, Morgan Ensberg is in (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-all-stars-rolen-ensberg&prov=ap&type=lgns)  :yay

What, no Davil Bell?  :o

:-D

David Bell's going to be the caddy for the NL All-Stars.  They need someone to carry their jocks around.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 11, 2005, 07:16:09 PM
Brett Boone was traded to the Twinkies for the ever popular player-to-be-named-later...
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 11, 2005, 07:29:31 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 11, 2005, 07:16:09 PM
Brett Boone was traded to the Twinkies for the ever popular player-to-be-named-later...

Nick Punto, maybe?
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: MURP on July 11, 2005, 07:49:01 PM
ha!   Punto the relief base runner.  what a job that is. 
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: henchmanUK on July 12, 2005, 08:06:17 AM
Quote from: MURP on July 11, 2005, 07:49:01 PM
relief base runner.  what a job that is. 

We have one of those whenever Frank Thomas gets on base!
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Mad-Lad on July 13, 2005, 12:49:15 AM
I didn't watch it, but seeing the box scores:

Brad Lidge.  1.0 IP/0 Hits/3 Ks.

that's rediculous.

too bad Oswalt gave up 2 runs.  Clemens had a solid inning too.

GO STROS!
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: henchmanUK on July 13, 2005, 06:44:04 AM
Here's your winner!

(http://www.actionfig.com/simpsons/burly1.jpg)

GO SOX!
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 13, 2005, 09:49:36 AM
A lot of trade rumors are starting to fly around:

1. The Marlins are still shopping AJ Burnett. They reportedly have 7 teams interested. The White Sox, Blue Jays, Orioles, Dodgers, Angels ,Padres and the Yankees. Toronto is reportedly willing to give up Gustavo Chacin. The Orioles are willing to give up Larry Bigbie, Jorge Julio and Hayden Penn. No word on what the other teams are offering.

2. The Nats deal to getting Preston Wilson is getting closer. They are also looking into signing Mike Stanton because their BP is so overworked.

3. The Astros are coveting Kevin Millar. He could be dealt for Chad Qualls.

4. Rockies and A's are talking about Joe Kennedy

5. Marlins are looking at getting Javier Vazquez, Bronson Arroyo, Aaron Harang, Josh Fogg, Gil Meche, Jason Jennings, Mike Maroth or Mark Redman

All of this pitching talk going around and not one mention of the Phillies....go figure. :boo
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Post by: Dillen on July 13, 2005, 11:52:18 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 13, 2005, 09:49:36 AM
3. The Astros are coveting Kevin Millar. He could be dealt for Chad Qualls.
I would shoot myself if they did that.
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Post by: Geowhizzer on July 13, 2005, 07:49:31 PM
Nationals sign LHP Stanton, activate OF Church (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-nationals-stanton-church&prov=ap&type=lgns)
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Post by: PhillyGirl on July 13, 2005, 11:07:34 PM
Preston Wilson to the Nats deal done (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2107378)
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Post by: Geowhizzer on July 13, 2005, 11:37:44 PM
... And Zach Day goes into mourning...
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Post by: Dillen on July 14, 2005, 01:16:01 PM
Saw all these on the bottomline, im not going to look for a link.

Rockies trade Preston Wilson and cash to Nationals for Zach Day+JJ Davis+PTBN/cash

Red Sox trade Jay Payton to A's for Chad Bradford

A's trade Eric Byrnes and minor league infielder Omar Quantanilla to Rockies for Joe Kennedy and Jay Witasick
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Post by: PhillyGirl on July 14, 2005, 05:46:50 PM
Well, we won't be winning anymore games vs. the Marlins this year (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2107992)
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Post by: Wingspan on July 14, 2005, 06:39:50 PM
well considering the phils  had his brother long after he was effective...might as well save a buck and recycle an old jersey and keep the streak going.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 14, 2005, 07:03:31 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on July 14, 2005, 06:39:50 PM
well considering the phils  had his brother long after he was effective...might as well save a buck and recycle an old jersey and keep the streak going.

Was Mark Leiter ever effective?  ???
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Post by: Dillen on July 16, 2005, 12:44:13 AM
Hmm....top 13. Orlando Palmeiro walk, Assmus sac bunt, Mike Lamb RBI single. Thats good. Now, bottom 13. Russ Springer walks Eckstein, Edmonds K's. Alright lets look at the stats, Pujols 4-7 HR vs Springer, 1-5 vs Harville. Put in Harville, because stats are AWESOME! 6 Pitches later the Astros lose 4-3.
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Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 18, 2005, 06:43:27 AM
Marlins Close To Firing McKeon? (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-jack18jul18,0,4616177.story?coll=sfla-sports-headlines)

QuoteThe Marlins' malaise has deepened to the point where not even manager Jack McKeon appears immune from change.

According to a National League official, the Marlins are giving serious consideration to firing the popular McKeon in an effort to shake up one of baseball's biggest disappointments.


 


 


 


"Everything at this point is being considered -- everything," the NL official said Sunday night.

The top candidate to replace McKeon, 74, would be Yankees bench coach Joe Girardi, the source said. Girardi, a favorite of Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria, could have been the Marlins' bench coach but turned down their offer last fall.

As of Sunday night, a Yankees source said the Marlins had not asked for permission to discuss a possible opening with Girardi, 40. The Yankees source also said the Marlins probably "would have to look elsewhere" for their next manager, although such matters are typically negotiable.

Other names being considered are former Marlins managers Jim Leyland and Jeff Torborg, Devil Rays manager Lou Piniella, former Red Sox manager Grady Little and Braves third-base coach Fredi Gonzalez
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Post by: PhillyGirl on July 18, 2005, 10:20:42 AM
Kenny Rogers turns himself in to police (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/3769004)
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Post by: PhillyGirl on July 18, 2005, 06:50:45 PM
Holy shtein...lmfao. This guy is a complete jackass:

QuotePitcher turns self in on misdemeanor warrant
ESPN.com news services

ARLINGTON, Texas -- Texas Rangers pitcher Kenny Rogers had another run-in with a cameraman Monday when he turned himself in on misdemeanor assault charges stemming from an earlier tirade against two cameramen.

The three-time All-Star, who is appealing a 20-game suspension and $50,000 fine, was released after posting $1,500 bond. Contrary to earlier reports, there has been no hearing date set for Rogers to appeal his suspension, players' association officials said Monday.

Rogers jawed at a cameraman for Dallas-Fort Worth television station WFAA as he was booked into the county jail. Just as with the incident that led to the charges, the exchange was caught on tape.

WFAA reported on its Web site Monday that photographer Mike Zukerman was videotaping the procedure when Rogers turned to him and said, "You're getting really close; you know that? Do you hear me?"

A few seconds later, Rogers again turned to the camera, saying, "You must be pretty proud of yourself, too."

After Zukerman replied, "It's just my job, Kenny," Rogers responded: "Yeah. Your job. That's just your excuse."


The Rangers declined to comment, referring questions to Rogers' attorney, who didn't return a telephone call.

Rogers, 40, faces a Class A misdemeanor charge of assault with injury in the shoving of KDFW-TV cameraman Larry Rodriguez, Arlington police spokeswoman Christy Gilfour said.

Police also will mail to Rogers' attorney a Class C misdemeanor assault citation for the shoving of Fox Sports Net Southwest cameraman David Mammeli, Gilfour said.

A Class A misdemeanor is punishable by up to a year in jail and a fine of up to $4,000, or both. A Class C misdemeanor is punishable by a fine of up to $500.

On June 29, Rogers lashed out at the cameramen as they taped him walking to the field for pregame stretching. The episode led to Rodriguez being treated at a hospital after the camera was ripped from his hands and thrown to the ground.

Rogers apologized a week later, saying the incident was out of character and would never happen again.

Gilfour said Fox Sports -- which owns the camera Rogers damaged in the shoving of Rodriguez -- has declined to press criminal charges.

Rogers was booed at last week's All-Star Game, but he said he came because he wanted the players who voted for him to know he appreciated it. He didn't want those votes to be wasted.

Before giving up six runs and 10 hits in 3 1/3 innings at Los Angeles on June 22, Rogers won nine straight decisions, a career best, and was the AL ERA leader. It wasn't known until after he pulled out of a start June 28 against the Angels that he had a broken bone in his non-pitching hand by punching a water cooler 11 days earlier.
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Post by: MDS on July 18, 2005, 06:57:40 PM
Trade him to Philly and maybe he'll kill Eskin.
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Post by: Rome on July 18, 2005, 07:16:24 PM
I had an argument with my buddy on the golf course the other day about Rogers.  His take on it was that we have no idea what led to Rogers freaking out on the cameramen and that his actions could have very well been justified.

My take on it was that Rogers is a fricken bullying wannabe tough-guy bitch who could use a couple hours in a cell with a hard-bangin' muscle-head who'll teach him the meaning of the word respect.

I got the laughs from our other playing partners so I won the argument.

;D


Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on July 18, 2005, 09:22:31 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 18, 2005, 06:50:45 PM
Holy shtein...lmfao. This guy is a complete jackass:

QuotePitcher turns self in on misdemeanor warrant
ESPN.com news services

ARLINGTON, Texas -- Texas Rangers pitcher Kenny Rogers had another run-in with a cameraman Monday when he turned himself in on misdemeanor assault charges stemming from an earlier tirade against two cameramen.

The three-time All-Star, who is appealing a 20-game suspension and $50,000 fine, was released after posting $1,500 bond. Contrary to earlier reports, there has been no hearing date set for Rogers to appeal his suspension, players' association officials said Monday.

Rogers jawed at a cameraman for Dallas-Fort Worth television station WFAA as he was booked into the county jail. Just as with the incident that led to the charges, the exchange was caught on tape.

WFAA reported on its Web site Monday that photographer Mike Zukerman was videotaping the procedure when Rogers turned to him and said, "You're getting really close; you know that? Do you hear me?"

A few seconds later, Rogers again turned to the camera, saying, "You must be pretty proud of yourself, too."

After Zukerman replied, "It's just my job, Kenny," Rogers responded: "Yeah. Your job. That's just your excuse."


The Rangers declined to comment, referring questions to Rogers' attorney, who didn't return a telephone call.

Rogers, 40, faces a Class A misdemeanor charge of assault with injury in the shoving of KDFW-TV cameraman Larry Rodriguez, Arlington police spokeswoman Christy Gilfour said.

Police also will mail to Rogers' attorney a Class C misdemeanor assault citation for the shoving of Fox Sports Net Southwest cameraman David Mammeli, Gilfour said.

A Class A misdemeanor is punishable by up to a year in jail and a fine of up to $4,000, or both. A Class C misdemeanor is punishable by a fine of up to $500.

On June 29, Rogers lashed out at the cameramen as they taped him walking to the field for pregame stretching. The episode led to Rodriguez being treated at a hospital after the camera was ripped from his hands and thrown to the ground.

Rogers apologized a week later, saying the incident was out of character and would never happen again.

Gilfour said Fox Sports -- which owns the camera Rogers damaged in the shoving of Rodriguez -- has declined to press criminal charges.

Rogers was booed at last week's All-Star Game, but he said he came because he wanted the players who voted for him to know he appreciated it. He didn't want those votes to be wasted.

Before giving up six runs and 10 hits in 3 1/3 innings at Los Angeles on June 22, Rogers won nine straight decisions, a career best, and was the AL ERA leader. It wasn't known until after he pulled out of a start June 28 against the Angels that he had a broken bone in his non-pitching hand by punching a water cooler 11 days earlier.

Both the camera man and Rogers need to be smacked around. 

The camera man is an idiot for putting a camera up close to Rogers.  IMO, he was taunting him.  Does he really need to get right in the the dude's face?  Doesn't that big ass camera have any type of zoom on it?  I actually wish Rogers would have smacked this dude around.  He probably deserved it.

But back to Rogers......
Ok Kenny, seeing as you are getting booked for assaulting a camera man it's probably in your best interest to just STFU and ignore the dumb sob.  Don't look at the camera, don't talk to the camera, don't acknowledge it's presence.  You'd be amazed how displaying a little tact and self restraint in that situation may have helped you out with your current problem. 
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Post by: Mad-Lad on July 19, 2005, 11:16:17 AM
the Kenny Rogers thing is annoying on so many levels, but the thing that drives me most nuts is the guy who calls up his local sports radio show and says, "I'm a jizzmopper at the adult peep show.  If i got caught shoving a cameraman, i'd get fired.  It's rediculous that Kenny did that and he should be out of a job!"

Seriously.   You aren't a professional athlete so no one cares about you.  Of course you're going to be fired, you're a jizzmopper and are replaceable.  Good pitching isn't something a team wants to get rid of.  Sure Kenny's a jerk, but please... stop calling and being stupid.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on July 19, 2005, 11:37:40 AM
Yeti's been calling radio shows? 
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Post by: Geowhizzer on July 19, 2005, 09:15:57 PM
Do the Tigers regret trading Urbina?

Percival likely out for season (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-tigers-percival&prov=ap&type=lgns)

Kyle Farnsworth is now the closer.  He's pitching well this season, but has never shown he can take the pressure of closing while with the Cubs.
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Post by: BigEd76 on July 21, 2005, 12:44:02 AM
Livan is pissed (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=250720120)  :deion
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 26, 2005, 09:04:24 PM
Red Sox's Clement Injured by Line Drive (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050727/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bba_red_sox_clement_injured;_ylt=AnwOf10RI8sPU2WQCEkDSIhI2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl)

QuoteST. PETERSBURG, Fla. -     Boston Red Sox pitcher Matt Clement was hit in the right side of the head by Carl Crawford's line drive Tuesday night and carried from the field on a stretcher.

Clement remained on the ground and barely moved for about five minutes before he was lifted onto a stretcher and immobilized with a neck brace. Replays showed the force of Crawford's liner knocked the All-Star pitcher completely off his feet.

The ball caromed off the back of Clement's head, just behind his right ear, into short left field for an RBI single. Concerned teammates gathered around the fallen pitcher as medical personnel attended to him on the mound. The crowd cheered as he was carried off, but his arms remained strapped across his chest.

Chad Bradford replaced Clement with Boston leading the     Tampa Bay Devil Rays 5-1.

Five years ago, Red Sox pitcher Bryce Florie was hit in the right eye by a ball hit by Ryan Thompson of the     New York Yankees. The line drive broke several bones in Florie's face and left his vision impaired.

The right-hander tried to come back with Boston the next season but didn't last long and was out of the major leagues by the end of the season. He has not been back since.

Hopefully Clement will be OK and back on the mound soon.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Father Demon on July 27, 2005, 12:18:09 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 26, 2005, 09:04:24 PM
Red Sox's Clement Injured by Line Drive (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050727/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bba_red_sox_clement_injured;_ylt=AnwOf10RI8sPU2WQCEkDSIhI2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl)

QuoteST. PETERSBURG, Fla. -     Boston Red Sox pitcher Matt Clement was hit in the right side of the head by Carl Crawford's line drive Tuesday night and carried from the field on a stretcher.

Clement remained on the ground and barely moved for about five minutes before he was lifted onto a stretcher and immobilized with a neck brace. Replays showed the force of Crawford's liner knocked the All-Star pitcher completely off his feet.

The ball caromed off the back of Clement's head, just behind his right ear, into short left field for an RBI single. Concerned teammates gathered around the fallen pitcher as medical personnel attended to him on the mound. The crowd cheered as he was carried off, but his arms remained strapped across his chest.

Chad Bradford replaced Clement with Boston leading the     Tampa Bay Devil Rays 5-1.

Five years ago, Red Sox pitcher Bryce Florie was hit in the right eye by a ball hit by Ryan Thompson of the     New York Yankees. The line drive broke several bones in Florie's face and left his vision impaired.

The right-hander tried to come back with Boston the next season but didn't last long and was out of the major leagues by the end of the season. He has not been back since.

Hopefully Clement will be OK and back on the mound soon.

Scary-ass video of Clement headbutting a baseball (http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20050726&content_id=1145648&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb)  (video link on this page)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 28, 2005, 10:07:23 PM
Lucchino: Trading Ramirez will be hard (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/3835954?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=49)


Hmmm... the Sawx wouldn't be willing to trade him for a slightly injured first baseman, would they?  :paranoid

I know, I know... wishful thinking.
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Post by: Mad-Lad on July 28, 2005, 11:17:45 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 28, 2005, 12:43:24 PM
Now sweep the Mets, please...

Astros 3, Mets 2.   Beating Pedro is a good start.

Beltran 0 - 4 and got booed like mad.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on July 29, 2005, 08:46:38 PM
Major trade being discussed! (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2119978)

METS get:  Manny Ramirez and Danys Baez
RED SOX get: Mike Cameron and Aubrey Huff
DEVIL RAYS get: C Kelly Shoppach, OF Lastings Milledge, RHP Anibal Sanchez, RHP Yusmeiro Petit

Seems like the Sox are getting ripped off in that one...  ???
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Post by: PhillyGirl on July 29, 2005, 08:48:58 PM
Ramirez and Pedro?  ::)
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Post by: Geowhizzer on July 29, 2005, 08:55:26 PM
That one doesn't make sense for the Sawx:  Ramirez and their top catching prospect for a wash-up and a decent 1B, when they already have three first basemen.

Ed Wade would probably do it, but I don't see the kid doing that trade.  Is this from the NY Post?
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Mad-Lad on July 30, 2005, 01:52:04 AM
Quote from: Mad-Lad on July 28, 2005, 11:17:45 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 28, 2005, 12:43:24 PM
Now sweep the Mets, please...

Astros 3, Mets 2.   Beating Pedro is a good start.

Beltran 0 - 4 and got booed like mad.

Astros take the first two games and lead the wild card.  :)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 30, 2005, 02:58:53 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 29, 2005, 08:46:38 PM
Major trade being discussed! (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2119978)

METS get:  Manny Ramirez and Danys Baez
RED SOX get: Mike Cameron and Aubrey Huff
DEVIL RAYS get: C Kelly Shoppach, OF Lastings Milledge, RHP Anibal Sanchez, RHP Yusmeiro Petit

Seems like the Sox are getting ripped off in that one...  ???

Yeah, the late edition of BBTN said that the Red Sox finally realized that they'd be getting the shaft and asked the Mets for more. The Mets said no. All three teams have set a noon-Saturday deadline to finalize something or its totally off.

I wonder how New Yawkers will like Manny's antics and lazy attitude? Boston fans booed the shtein out of him tonight and David Ortiz didn't like it.
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Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 30, 2005, 03:05:21 AM
Holy shtein!

Did you guys see Jay Powell's arm break when he threw the pitch in Atlanta?!?!?!

Brought back memories of Tom Browning and Tony Saunders...

He threw the pitch and his arm just snapped like a twig. You could see it flopping around as he was falling to the ground.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Dillen on July 30, 2005, 02:48:23 PM
Tony Saunders was the man. Powell's arm break wasnt nearly as bad as Suanders' though, I was at the game and you could hear the break from the LF bleachers.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on July 30, 2005, 07:57:36 PM
Washington is 3-14 since they got Preston Wilson  :-D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 30, 2005, 08:56:50 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 30, 2005, 02:58:53 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 29, 2005, 08:46:38 PM
Major trade being discussed! (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2119978)

METS get:  Manny Ramirez and Danys Baez
RED SOX get: Mike Cameron and Aubrey Huff
DEVIL RAYS get: C Kelly Shoppach, OF Lastings Milledge, RHP Anibal Sanchez, RHP Yusmeiro Petit

Seems like the Sox are getting ripped off in that one...  ???

Yeah, the late edition of BBTN said that the Red Sox finally realized that they'd be getting the shaft and asked the Mets for more. The Mets said no. All three teams have set a noon-Saturday deadline to finalize something or its totally off.

I wonder how New Yawkers will like Manny's antics and lazy attitude? Boston fans booed the shtein out of him tonight and David Ortiz didn't like it.

According to FoxSports.com, it wasn't the Red Sox causing the snag, it was the Devil Rays because they wanted more.

D-Rays reportedly cause snag in Manny trade (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/3840328)

QuoteThe third team involved with the blockbuster trade, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays, have demanded that top Red Sox prospect Hanley Ramirez be included in the trade, said the report which got its information from major league sources.
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Post by: Mad-Lad on July 30, 2005, 10:17:22 PM
Astros 2, Mets 0.    One game tomorrow (Oswalt vs. Ishii).

LETS SWEEP THOSE BASTAGES!
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Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 31, 2005, 02:14:05 AM
Two trades tonight:

Seattle traded Randy Winn to San Francisco for Yorvit Torrealba & Jesse Foppert

Arizona traded Jose Cruz Jr. to Boston for two minor leaguers (don't know who yet)

I'm puzzled by SF acquiring Winn. Well, maybe I'm not because despite the Giants being way behind, the Padres and Dodgers are stinking it up so the Giants think they have a shot. And that means Schimdt won't be traded...
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Post by: Geowhizzer on July 31, 2005, 02:23:33 AM
I think that Cruz Jr was DFA, so I wouldn't think that the two prospects are anything too special.

From the AP:

Quoteminor league infielder Kenny Perez and minor league right-hander Kyle Bono.
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Post by: Geowhizzer on July 31, 2005, 02:30:19 AM
SS Kenny Perez:

Started in AAA Pawtucket- .167/1/5 (14 games)
Now in AA Portland- .285/4/28 (66 games)

P Kyle Bono:
A Wilmington- 2-2, 4.07 (24 games/48.2 IP)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on August 04, 2005, 02:38:10 PM
O's fire Mazzilli (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2124490)
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Post by: Mad-Lad on August 04, 2005, 04:33:21 PM
(http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/mlb/2005/0804/photo/a_roger_372.jpg)

Happy 43rd, Roger!
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on August 04, 2005, 04:35:33 PM
He's got nuttin' on Julio Franco!
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Post by: BigEd76 on August 04, 2005, 06:32:52 PM
Guess which Mets pitcher had 5 earned runs, 6 hits, 1 walk and 0 strikeouts in the 9th inning in a 12-9 loss?  :-D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on August 10, 2005, 10:26:54 AM
The KNBR host that made the comments about "brain-dead Caribbeans" has been fired (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2130288)  :P
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on August 10, 2005, 11:42:50 AM
http://www.mets.com

Check out David Wright's catch last night...  :o
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Post by: thrillhouse on August 11, 2005, 07:51:33 PM
Cameron and Beltran dive into each other at full speed. Really bad, Im sure youll see this somewhere else, but here is the freeze frame.  I thought Cameron was dead...

http://www.optonline.net/Sports/Article/Feeds?CID=type%3Dxml%26channel%3D33%26article%3D15491131
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Post by: Sgt PSN on August 11, 2005, 07:55:36 PM
Ouch, that had to freaking hurt.  Sucks for Cameron, I've been a fan of his since he was in Seattle.  Just a good, quality ball player imo.  Hopefully he's ok. 
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Post by: Geowhizzer on August 11, 2005, 09:16:32 PM
I was listening to MLB on XM (Dibble and Kennedy) on my way home from work.  They went live to the radio (Padres) broadcast.  Even the Padres announcers were worried about Cameron.  Jerry Coleman (the broadcaster just selected into that wing of the Hall of Fame) even said that he didn't care about the game.  Not visual, but you could feel the tension in that booth.

Prayers for Cameron.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 11, 2005, 09:18:26 PM
The highlight is on the Mets' webpage. (http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/index.jsp?c_id=nym)

That was one nasty collision.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 12, 2005, 09:48:36 PM
Update:

Cameron to have surgery, Beltran has concussion after collision (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-mets-collision&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Dillen on August 12, 2005, 10:15:49 PM
Zach Duke was in line for his first loss, 4 IP 8 H 3 BB 4 ER, but noooooooooo, Astros give it back. Anyone notice whenever they intentionally walk a guy because hes the best hitter, or to set up a force, it ALWAYS comes back to bite them?
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on August 16, 2005, 12:41:24 AM
Newtown, PA won the Mid-Atlantic Region Championship over Toms River and is headed to Williamsport...  :evil :yay
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: MDS on August 16, 2005, 01:55:36 AM
Randy Winn, Giants of San Francisco, hit for the cycle today in 4 straight at bats.

Would that be the first cycle since all-star superman David Bell did it last year?
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on August 16, 2005, 10:04:56 AM
Wilkerson did it against us earlier this year...
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on August 16, 2005, 11:34:53 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 16, 2005, 10:04:56 AM
Wilkerson did it against us earlier this year...

They said on SportsCenter that this was the 3rd cycle of the season, so there's another one out there too.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on August 16, 2005, 02:12:10 PM
Grudzielanek vs the Brewers in April, according to the game notes...
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 18, 2005, 09:14:07 PM
Cards may lose Rolen for season

FOXSports.com

According to a report in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Cardinals third baseman Scott Rolen is facing the very real possibility of season-ending surgery on his injured left shoulder.

More than three months after the All-Star third baseman suffered the injury in a collision with Los Angeles Dodgers first baseman Hee Seop Choi, his condition has not improved. Rolen remains unable to take batting practice.
Rolen recently had the shoulder reevaluated by Dr. Timothy Kremchek, the Cincinnati Reds' medical supervisor. While Rolen declined to discuss specific recommendations, a source familiar with Kremchek's findings told the Post-Dispatch that surgery appears inevitable.

So if surgery to repair his torn labrum is inevitable, the only question remaining is when?

"I have a decision to make," Rolen said. "It's a very personal decision and something I prefer to handle in private rather than publicly."

It may be a decision that is made for Rolen, as time is running out on the regular season. Cardinals GM Walt Jocketty suggested on Wednesday that the window is closing for Rolen's return.

"If we get to the point where there's only one or two weeks left in the season, and he hasn't played, I'm not sure that's going to work," Jocketty said.

Maybe Scotty can have one of the fans from "Heaven" massage it for him...
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: MDS on August 18, 2005, 09:20:53 PM
So he won't go 0-14 in the world series again? Damnit.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on August 21, 2005, 12:09:12 AM
The Royals beat Barry Zito, 2-1.  Streak over...  :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on August 21, 2005, 04:53:34 PM
Rolen has surgery (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2139768)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on August 22, 2005, 05:57:19 PM
The White Sox forfeited a makeup game with Boston because they didn't want to play on Labor Day.  I bet Steinbrenner is loving that one....  :-D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 22, 2005, 07:05:32 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 22, 2005, 05:57:19 PM
The White Sox forfeited a makeup game with Boston because they didn't want to play on Labor Day.  I bet Steinbrenner is loving that one....  :-D

Do you have a link?  I can't find that story anywhere.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on August 22, 2005, 07:14:33 PM
Haven't seen a link yet, but it was on CSN at 6pm...


Edit:  this was later denied by Chicago.  Game on!
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on August 31, 2005, 09:37:53 PM
Twins had 13 hits today and lost 1-0 to the Royals  :-D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on August 31, 2005, 09:39:41 PM
I never EVER want to hear that the Phillies strand too many lol
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on August 31, 2005, 11:29:55 PM
Holy S, did you see the staredown between Frank Robinson and Randy Wolf's umpire brother Jim tonight?  Frank was pissed off at a blown call, so he stared down Wolf....and Wolf stared back.....for 44.5 seconds  :-D :-D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Mad-Lad on September 03, 2005, 12:24:45 AM
Astros beat the Cards in the 13th inning.  AWW YEAH!! Watch out NL Central.  Only 12.5 games back!
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 03, 2005, 08:46:29 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 31, 2005, 11:29:55 PM
Holy S, did you see the staredown between Frank Robinson and Randy Wolf's umpire brother Jim tonight?  Frank was pissed off at a blown call, so he stared down Wolf....and Wolf stared back.....for 44.5 seconds  :-D :-D

That was hilarious. :-D


Yo Lad...F HOUSTON! >:(
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Dillen on September 03, 2005, 11:53:03 AM
I cant believe Ausmus hit a HR.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Fan_Since_64 on September 06, 2005, 01:08:51 PM
Quote from: Mad-Lad on September 03, 2005, 12:24:45 AM
Astros beat the Cards in the 13th inning.  AWW YEAH!! Watch out NL Central.  Only 12.5 games back!

Dream on!  ;)

I'm just sitting back waiting to see what unlucky team gets to lose to the Redbirds in the first round of the playoffs.  :evil
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on September 06, 2005, 01:42:44 PM
Rafael Palmeiro is still a 'roid monkey.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 06, 2005, 05:02:02 PM
Pirates fire manager Lloyd McClendon (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-pirates-mcclendonfired&prov=ap&type=lgns)

Excerpt:

QuoteOnce they lose another game, the Pirates' 13 consecutive losing seasons will be three short of the major league record.

Gee, who do you think holds THAT record.  :'(

Hint 1:  From 1933-1948.
Hint 2:  Except for a lucky year in 1932, the streak would have been 31 straight seasons.  1932 was the ONLY winning season for this team between 1918 and 1948.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on September 06, 2005, 05:03:46 PM
I love when organizations don't put the proper money/resources into building a winning team, but they promise to make it all better just by firing the manager.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: MDS on September 06, 2005, 05:05:45 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 06, 2005, 05:02:02 PM
Pirates fire manager Lloyd McClendon (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-pirates-mcclendonfired&prov=ap&type=lgns)

Excerpt:

QuoteOnce they lose another game, the Pirates' 13 consecutive losing seasons will be three short of the major league record.

Gee, who do you think holds THAT record.  :'(

Hint 1:  From 1933-1948.
Hint 2:  Except for a lucky year in 1932, the streak would have been 31 straight seasons.  1932 was the ONLY winning season for this team between 1918 and 1948.

I'm gonna say........the Phillies.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Mad-Lad on September 06, 2005, 05:11:20 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 06, 2005, 05:03:46 PM
I love when organizations don't put the proper money/resources into building a winning team, but they promise to make it all better just by firing the manager.

totally.  When the Astros fired Jimmy Williams last year and hired Phil Garner, the only thing i could think was "he SUCKED when he was managing the Brewers!"  Looks like he's a pretty good manager now that he has some real players.

no one's going to be able to  turn the Pirates around.  The Royals fire their managers every year it seems and they never get any better.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on September 06, 2005, 05:18:02 PM
I still don't think John Felske or Nick Leyva got a fair shake.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on September 12, 2005, 06:14:02 PM
Steroid boy is back.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on September 12, 2005, 10:56:49 PM
Steroid boy hits what LOOKED to be a HR in his first at bat....but it was ruled a ground rule double as a fan touched the ball  :-D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: MDS on September 12, 2005, 11:02:44 PM
Fitting.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 15, 2005, 10:13:55 AM
OUCH! (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2162043)


Here's something you don't see every day.  Gabe Kapler tore his Achilles tendon while rounding 2nd base on Tony Graffanino's home run. 
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: rjs246 on September 15, 2005, 10:15:14 AM
Baseball players are such great athletes. Jogging around the basepaths is dangerous. I can't believe more of them don't blow out their knees in the on-deck circle.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 15, 2005, 10:17:42 AM
It reminds me of Vinny tearing his Achilles a few years ago in the Meadowlands. 
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Rome on September 15, 2005, 02:48:06 PM
Cliff Floyd just hit a grand slam for the Mets who now lead the Nats 5-4!

I walked into the bedroom to shut the tv off, looked up, and just as I did, BOOM!


Ahahahaha!  Choke on it, Nats.  Especially Frank Robinson, that toolbag.

:-D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: MDS on September 15, 2005, 05:03:45 PM
Hopefully the Mets can do that this weekend against Atlanta.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on September 15, 2005, 05:27:51 PM
Mets lose.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on September 15, 2005, 05:47:12 PM
Mike Hampton is out for the year and could miss all of 2006 if he gets reconstructive elbow surgery...  :poison
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: MDS on September 20, 2005, 11:05:08 PM
Bonds has 3 homers since coming back

(http://i06-4.facebook.com/pics/7/9/n2219749_1205.jpg)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on September 20, 2005, 11:16:32 PM
 :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on September 20, 2005, 11:22:50 PM
Did you see where that one in Washington landed?  :o

Meanwhile, Brian Roberts dislocated his elbow tonight and is done for the year.  One of hunt's Yankee beotches ran right into Roberts' arm on a bunt attempt and locked the arm backwards....  :-X

How about those West-leading Padres?  They lost 20-1 in Colorado (it was 15-0 after 3 innings)....  :-D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: MDS on September 20, 2005, 11:49:54 PM
Roberts' injury might open the door for Utley to be the 2B on the USA for the World Cup this winter. Not sure if he'll be 100% by then, or if they can count on it when making the rosters.  :paranoid

Bonds destoryed the ball. It was sick. He's really good.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: MURP on September 21, 2005, 09:32:05 AM
Quote from: MDS on September 20, 2005, 11:05:08 PM
Bonds has 3 homers since coming back

(http://i06-4.facebook.com/pics/7/9/n2219749_1205.jpg)


:-D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: rjs246 on September 21, 2005, 09:41:35 AM
(http://smartypants.diaryland.com/images/monkeyheadjuice0205.jpg)

I love this picture.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on September 21, 2005, 07:53:34 PM
Pinella to be bought out in 2006 (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2168523)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: MDS on September 22, 2005, 11:25:41 AM
Raffy Taffy says teammate gave him substance which turned his steroid test positive (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2169007)

Sosa  :)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: BigEd76 on September 26, 2005, 04:11:15 PM
Burnett won't resign with Florida....too depressing (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/4904234)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: rjs246 on September 26, 2005, 04:30:33 PM
Wah wah wah.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Rome on September 27, 2005, 09:23:17 AM
This is one way to get your wish. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2173336)

:-D


The guy has the ish to be an ace plus I like his attitude.  He hates being around losers.  What's wrong with that?
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: MDS on September 27, 2005, 09:57:00 AM
They should do the same thing to every member of that zesty bullpen.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: henchmanUK on September 30, 2005, 08:20:41 AM
Should really have posted this waaaaaay earlier, but it's still good!
(http://www.switsport.com/banner-wsox.jpg)
2005 AL CENTRAL CHAMPS!
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 30, 2005, 09:12:52 AM
I'm rooting for the Sox in the playoffs. Angels already won one, I hate the Yanks and I'm sick of the Boston crap.

If Cleveland gets in, I want a CLE-CHW ALCS.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: rjs246 on September 30, 2005, 09:16:26 AM
I was all for the Sox winning last year. New to the city, hadn't been done in a while, happy new englanders instead of bitter shteinhead douchebubble assbag new englanders... now I want them to get locked out of the Playoffs so I can laugh at these jerks.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: henchmanUK on September 30, 2005, 11:01:43 AM
Phreak knows who "The Sox" are. RJS doesn't.  ;)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: rjs246 on September 30, 2005, 11:10:22 AM
The Whitesox are poop.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: henchmanUK on September 30, 2005, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 30, 2005, 11:10:22 AM
The Whitesox are poop.

I KNOW! But we have the best record in the AL! :-D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 30, 2005, 11:52:20 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 30, 2005, 09:16:26 AM
I was all for the Sox winning last year. New to the city, hadn't been done in a while, happy new englanders instead of bitter shteinhead douchebubble assbag new englanders... now I want them to get locked out of the Playoffs so I can laugh at these jerks.


There are a fair share of transplanted New Englanders down here (Red Sox train in Ft. Myers).  How in the span of a calendar year, because the Red Sox finally win a World Series- their first since the Wilson administration- and the Patsies win several Super Bowls- and now the Sawx fans are more smug than they claim the Yankee fans to be.

I'm really starting to hate New England fans... and I'm married to one!
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on October 01, 2005, 09:44:08 AM
(http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/mlb/2005/0930/photo/a_timlin_372.jpg)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: PhillyGirl on October 01, 2005, 09:45:15 AM
farg Timlin. I hate that guy.
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: JTrotter Fan on October 01, 2005, 09:51:33 AM
Farg "The Sox!"

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30/dawkinsdarthcore/172131.jpg)
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on October 01, 2005, 10:00:28 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 01, 2005, 09:45:15 AM
farg Timlin. I hate that guy.

Notice the hand on his ass and how happy he looks about it?  :paranoid Almost looks like Sarge at the Marine Corps Ball  ;D
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: Rome on October 01, 2005, 11:43:11 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 01, 2005, 09:44:08 AM
(http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/mlb/2005/0930/photo/a_timlin_372.jpg)

Timlin luvs him sum Big Papi.

:sly
Title: Re: Rest of baseball thread
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on October 01, 2005, 04:23:50 PM
(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/offbeat/gallery/2005/0929/super.07.starwars.ap.jpg)